Quotes from rec.arts.drwho
The
September/October 1995 Quotefile.
As usual, this is only the updates. If you want the whole thing (and,
wow, it's a biggy) email me.
Also, please email me with anything you happen across that strikes you
as funny, witty, etc. I can't guarantee it'll make the final cut, but
it definitely helps. Oddly enough David McKinnon, who is usually either
the #1 or #2 entrant, suggests the most entries himself.
And because someone asks every month, I never add one of my own posts
unless it's nominated, and I usually wait to receive at least two
nominations.
Right, here we go:
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(somebody writes):
>Hi, I've been off the net for a while, and I need info on any new
>Dr Who TV/films... please email..
>ANY info would be much appreciated.
>Thanks in advace
It still stands as a crossover between the UK's "Doctor Who"
and the 1970's classic US sitcom "Fish" which starred Abe Vigoda and
Florence Stanley. Abe Vigoda and the Todd Bridges character were
originally to have joined the TARDIS crew, but Todd Bridges, unavailable
due to his being in jail, has been replaced with actor Troy McClure
(you may remember him from his TV series "Handel with Kare" ("The
Original
Odd Couple") which premiered after Super Bowl XXVI).
-- Jason A. Miller (jmiller6@uoft02.utoledo.edu),
September 15, 1995
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In article <4397g0$hua@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca>,
The Doctor wrote:
>This is a sucker born every minute!
His neurons clearly fire. Just not in any discernible pattern.
-- Arturo Madigin (madigin@math.berkeley.edu), Sept 15
1995
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(on the subject of most embarrassing episode)
An Unearthly Child episode 1 (that may not be the right title, but
everyone knows what I'm talking about).
I watched this "in company". Susan dancing. AAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGHHH.
Susan
saying "It's true. Every word of it's true".
AAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH. If she was much more wooden the Department of
Transport would be trying to build a road
over her and environmentalists would be chaining themselves to the top
of
her.
-- Anthony (dforth@cix.compulink.co.uk), Sept 14 1995
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The thalls...humane, sensitive souls or stupid bastards?
You decide!
King Temnosus leads all his people into the most glaringly obvious trap
of
all time.
Latep tries to get off with Jo Grant when everyone knows she's a dalek
fetishist.
And it takes them ONE THOUSAND YEARS OF WAR to think of firing a rocket
at
the other side.
The prosecution rests, m'lud.
-- R.P. Augood (cenrpa@leeds.ac.uk), Sept 14 1995
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(on the subject of baiting Yads, Steve Traylen said:)
>He's not worth the effort, just ignore him.
I think I have to agree.
-- Dave the Dave (doctor@nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca), Sept 14
1995
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(Dave Yadallee posted a bunch of nonsense:)
>=CE=EF=F4=A0=ED=F9=A0=E6=E1=F5=EB=F4=A0=E9=E6=A0=F9=EF=F5=A0=E4=EF=EE=A7=
>=A0=E1=A0=E2=F2=E1=E9=EE=A0=F4=EF=A0=F3=F0=E5=E1=EB=A0=EF=E6=A0=BA=AD=A9
>=D9=EF=F5=A0=E8=E1=F6=E5=A0=EF=E2=F6=E9=EF=F5=F3=EC=F9=A0=E4=EF=EE=A7=F4=
Posting in hexadecimal won't make you any more coherent, Dave - there
are
no Logopolitans round here...
PS: You don't think his anti-killfile program works by Block Transfer
Computation, do you ? Oh no!
-- David Owen (dro@dsbc.icl.co.uk), Sept 15 1995
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>I get sick of everybody picking doctor who to bits because of special
>effects. It was the story lines that held the show together for so
long.
>the effects in my opinion shouln't really count. look at the mccoy
>years. better effects and bad stories. That is the major problem with
tv
>of the 90's. every one wants great effects and doesn't care about the
>stories.
Er ... yeah.
File this one under, "Choir, Preaching to the".
-- David "Non-Effects Man" McKinnon
(mckinnon@math.berkeley.edu)
Sept 15, 1995
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(Once again, Dave the Dave was blathering:)
>This is a sucker born every minute!
On your business card, baby, on your business card.
-- Christopher D. Heer (cheer@isisph.com), Sept 16 1995
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>As I understand it, it wasn't Segal who wanted to do 6 movies a year.
It
>was Universal.
You mean *everyone* wanted to do six movies a year?
-- Kate Orman (korman@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au), Sept 16
1995
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>Well, while Roger Daltrey is nice looking (and sings pretty well, too)
he
>has the acting range of the average turnip. He proved that on his
>Highlander appearances. I'm afraid I wouldn't much like to see him as
the
>Doctor.
Hey, don't forget his star turn on "Tales From the Crypt".
He plays a sadistic, evil, lustful ... newspaper journalist.
And his nose falls off.
I tells'ya, the man exudes talent.
-- Jason A. Miller (jmiller6@uoft02.utoledo.edu)
Sept 16, 1995
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(on a thread entitled "My First Who Books"):
From the title of this thread, I'd assumed you were talking about
"Junior Doctor Who and the Giant Robot" by Terrance Dicks (what
a memory this boy has). This made me think of two further ideas:
(a) Junior Doctor Who: adventures of the first incarnation as a boy.
Theta Sigma struggles to finish that Prydonian assignment while his
arch-enemy the Master messes up the project work, and Drax
makes a move on his girlfriend. Will he get to take Flavia to the
Time Prom, or will the Other make an unexpected appearance?
(b) Doctor Who for Time Tots: "See the Doctor. See his big blue box.
See the Bad Dalek. Look out Doctor! See the companions. When he
says run, run companions!"
PS: News just in: Virgin have rejected (b), but Boxtree are showing
strong
interest.
-- Peter Anghelides (anghelides@vnet.ibm.com), Sept 18
1995
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>>1) What is "gurning"? (e.g. p 109, "The Doctor is gurning as he's
attacked
>>by tentacles" under "goofs" for "Spearhead from Space")
>
>Gurning is a less civilised version of whingeing---it entails making a
>raucous and objectionable racket while you cry.
Nope, gurning is a strange British folk event. It involves putting a
toilet
seat around you neck, and pulling a hideous face without the use of your
hands and fingers. (I am not making this up.) The keenest exponents
of this event are usually old men with lots of flabby facial skin and no
teeth
who can contort their physiognomy so drastically that they appear to
be swallowing their own noses. In "Spearhead from Space", Jon Pertwee
has the Nestene tentacle wrapped around his neck, and does a goggly-eyed
face while rasping "Thwitch on Lith" to his cowering, mini-skirted
companion.
Hence the apt description. For me, this "gurning" was one of the
Pertwee
Doctor's most endearing character flourishes. But do we get it in the
MAs
or the NAs or the Decalog stories? Do we heck as like - instead, we
just
get him rubbing the back of his neck. (Still sore from the Nestene
tentacle,
I suppose.)
-- Peter Anghelides (anghelides@vnet.ibm.com), Sept 18
1995
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(on the subject of ideas to boost the new show's ratings)
I've got a plan.
A number of RADW regulars join United We Stand and take an aggressive
role
in convincing Ross Perot to try another run for the presidency. We
convince him that the greatest advantage is to be gained by announcing
his
bid in late February with a 2-hour paid-political show to run
concurrently
on ABC, NBC and CBS on a Tuesday night. We encourage him to use LOTS of
those unreadable charts and graphs to illustrate his points. We make
SURE
his show runs at the same time as New Who, and that Fox is the only
network not showing Perot.
We've got it made.
-- Elsa Frohman (efrohman@nyc.pipeline.com), Sept 17
1995
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Jonathan Blum (jblum@Glue.umd.edu) wrote:
: allow me to put on my Lance Parkin hat
For those that don't know, Virgin have just introduced a new range of
NA Author winter clothing, and it's selling briskly at Forbidden
Planet in London.
-- Lance Parkin (ljp104@york.ac.uk), Sept 18 1995
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(on the subject of this quotefile (hey! a recursive quote!))
In <43c19l$q0l@news.cerf.net>, cheer@isisph.com (Christopher D. Heer)
writes:
>And as for Peter Anghelides. . . I was strict on him this time! I've
been
>harder on him than others lately
Like Scottish cheddar, Chris is hard, but fair.
-- Peter Anghelides (anghelides@vnet.ibm.com), Sept 18
1995
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So, how does Doctor Dandelion rebuild an old church around a reinforced
modern shell? And when? And why? I guess he had a lot of time on
his hands, and maybe there's another Decalog story which explains the
time he spent on Earth masquerading as a civil engineer* to develop the
building expertise and as a result causes the Windsor Castle Fire, the
lightning strike on York Minster, and the collapse of Ronan Point,
but...
(Sorry, I'm just feeling a birastroppy today.)
* My favorite telephone book entry is "BORING: see Civil Engineers".
-- Peter Youknowwho (anghelides@vnet.ibm.com), Sept 18
1995
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(re: Planet of the Spiders)
>I could hear, albeit faintly,what at first I took to be the soundtrack
to
>another Dr. Who episode, playing alongside the proper signal.
Dang, you're right. I just listened to my copy, and realised that
it's a subliminal message from Mat Irvine and Ian Scoones. Put
on your headphones, close your mouth real tight and stick a
finger up each nostril, crank up the volume with your free hand,
and you can definitely hear:
"Cor, look at the crap CSO on that flying car, should have done
that as a model shot. Dearie me! Mind you, those spiders aren't
bad considering the money we had for visuals. Cor, look at the
crap CSO on that flying car, should have..."
-- Him Again (anghelides@vnet.ibm.com), Sept 19 1995
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(re: Dalek Costume)
> I know this is not a classifieds group, but this is a related
"for
>sale" post.
Salesman:
Ooh-sir-it-looks-just-fab-u-lous-on-yooouuu.
John Scott Martin (for it is he):
Mm, I dunno, it feels a bit tight around the bumper.
Saleman:
It-will-ease-in-with-weeeaaar. Don't-wor-ry-a-bout-that,
sirrrr.
John SM:
Still, I dunno.. And it feels a bit slack round the collar too.
Are you sure this is real dalekanium? I saw a coupla
suits in A.J.Lane's that looked suspiciously like adamantium
cheapos. What do you reckon, Murphy?
Murphy Grumbar:
Well, I preferred you in that Mutt suit....
John SM:
Ever since I won that subscription to DWM, I always mix up
The Mutants with The Daleks. No, this definitely feels baggy
round the plunger.
Salesman (tugging at parabolic dish on rear of suit):
No-sirrrr. It-fits-you-like-a-glove. Hon-est-ly-sir-you-look-
the-ab-so-lute-bee's-kneeeeees.
John SM:
OK, you've talked me into it. Do you take American Express?
Saleman:
Ex-ter-mi-naaaaaaaate!!!
-- Peter Somethingorother (anghelides@vnet.ibm.com),
Sept 19, 1995
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>The Thals...humane, sensitive souls or stupid bastards?
And Ganatus... what a woodentop! Like Chris Heer, his head
was hard but fair.
-- Peter Anbibblefish (anghelides@vnet.ibm.com), Sept 19
1995
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>I like to entertain the notion that underneath the chunky
_Ambassadors_-style
>space-suits, they were wearing the classical open-chested tunics and
>kinky leather slacks with holes cut down the sides, from their earlier
>appearance. It helps pass the time when watching _Planet_, anyway.
I've been listening to the "Planet" audio tape on my surround-sound
in-vehicle
entertainment system (OK, my car tape deck). Your posting has now made
it
impossible for me to finish it, as the images you conjure up are
detrimental
to my driving. And I was so enjoying Jon Pertwee (a) reading Terrance
Dicks'
spartan, yet abridged, Target prose, (b) mispronouncing Thals as
"tarls"*, and
(c) doing dalek impressions when, notoriously, he hates the daleks.
* On my thuround-thound thythtem, too
-- Peter Peter (anghelides@vnet.ibm.com), Sept 19 1995
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>>>Plus, it was very odd that all of the Doctors from late Tom Baker to
>>>Colin Baker would want to wear that same shirt...
>>
>> Well, it was his lucky shirt...
>
>LUCKY!!!!???!!! He died whilst wearing it.......twice!
Yeah, but look at all the chicks he picked up... :)
-- Elsa Frohman (efrohman@nyc.pipeline.com), Sept 19
1995
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[The night is dark -- there is no moon. Two SENTRIES pace
quietly
in front of the gates of the high, imposing castle.]
SENTRY 1: I really shouldn't have got the sergeant so mad at me. That
way
I might have got off with pacing on the battlements above the gates,
instead
of down here in front of them.
SENTRY 2: Well, you really shouldn't have said that about his mother's
cranial capacity.
SENTRY 1: I resent that. After all, it's true -- her skull just wasn't
big enough to fit all those flowers. You saw the cracks!
SENTRY 2: Well, I think you were stuffing them in a bit too hard --
urk!
[SENTRY 2 falls to the ground dead, revealing a dagger in his
back
and a shadowy figure behind him.]
FIGURE: [grimly] You will open the gates. Now.
SENTRY: Hey! Now I'll never collect those three florins he owes me.
FIGURE: [drawing a huge sword] Open the gates! Or I shall slay you as
casually as I slew your partner.
SENTRY: [drawing a bigger sword] Ha! My sword is bigger than yours!
FIGURE: I don't care how big your "sword" is. Open the gates, or I
shall
kill you! [he swipes at the SENTRY]
SENTRY: [parrying] Hmm. I don't think so. Not logically valid.
FIGURE: [attacking in earnest now] Open the gates!
SENTRY: [defending in earnest, but not expending much effort. He's
really
good.] Yeah? Why do you want me to?
FIGURE: [hack, slash] Because we must sack this city, as vengeance for
your original sin!
SENTRY: [surprised parry, flick] Mine? Oh, I see, you must be that
cousin she was on about. Look, I had no idea she was only twelve. She
was very mature.
FIGURE: [angered, thrust, slash] Confound your prattling! I speak of
the butchering your city's burghers perpetrated on my people a hundred
years ago, when this foul metropolis was founded.
SENTRY: [parry, retreat] Oh, *that*. No, no, "original sin" refers
to sex, not murder. Andy Lane made the same mistake.
FIGURE: [slash, pause, confusion] What? No, he didn't!
SENTRY: [parry] Well, in _Original Sin_, he goes on and on about the
relevance of murder and the various justifications for it, but the
closest
he ever gets to sex is to have Bernice kiss Chris Cwej full on the lips.
And that was in the middle of a firefight!
FIGURE: [angry cut and slash] No true warrior would allow a woman on a
battlefield!
SENTRY: [parry, jump] Yes, well, I didn't think it was very realistic
either. Zebulon Pryce was much better. I liked his philosophy.
FIGURE: [cut, anger, thrust] Pryce was a filthy murderer!
SENTRY: [parry, hop] Ah. As opposed to you, I suppose?
FIGURE: [slashcutthrustslash] Slanderer! I follow in the honourable
philosophical path tread by the Hith.
SENTRY: [parry] Actually, I thought a lot [parry] of the philosophy
[run]
was intrusive, and got in the way of [parry] the storytelling.
FIGURE: [slash, pant, slash] But you must admit that Chris Cwej and
Roz
Forrester were excellent new companions!
SENTRY: [parry] Yes, they were indeed. I also liked the neat little
editorial touches at the beginnings of the chapters -- very cool.
FIGURE: [attacking again] But the Hith [pant] were the superior
characters
of the book! An honourable race!
SENTRY: [parry, sigh] Yes, I suppose so. But I found the writing
style
a
bit ... pedestrian. [parry] Nothing particularly bad, but I just
didn't
really get excited very often. And the villain was totally irrelevant.
FIGURE: [half-thrust] Yes. Very [pant] boring. Not [gasp] very
realistic.
Or relevant.
SENTRY: [step aside] No. Good pace to the plot, though, and some good
lines. And the regulars were pretty good, too, especially Bernice. I
wish she'd been in the real show -- she's pretty damn close to my
favourite
companion ever.
FIGURE: [stagger] Open ... the gates.
SENTRY: [bored] No. Are you finished yet?
FIGURE: Open ... urk! [He falls backward, dead.]
SENTRY: [wipes sword on sleeve] Bye.
-- David "Eight out of Ten" McKinnon
(mckinnon@math.berkeley.edu), Sept 15 1995
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>Jack Beven (a. k. a. The Supreme Dalek)
>National Hurricane Center
Is it only me, or does this .sig worry other people too? What next:
Glitz
selling real estate? Shockeye on MasterChef?
-- Peter Himagain (anghelides@vnet.ibm.com), Sept 20
1995
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> Given the fact that these
>independent beings are sent *backwards* in time, however,
"retrojections" or
>"prejections" might be better terms.
"Premature regeneration". A common, but little-discussed, Time Lord
complaint. Delicacy forbids a fuller explanation.
-- Peter Anghelides (anghelides@vnet.ibm.com), Sept 20
1995
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> A mystery Doctor called Foreman
> Found his yard gate repainted as "Forman".
> But don't blame JN-T
> Or you'll very soon see
> A rebuke from his fan, Ms Kate Orman.
This doggerel is a triple first, folks. It's the first bad poem of its
kind, the first bad poem about a female fan, and the first bad poem
about
a fan from the Antipodes.
-- Christopher D. Heer (cheer@isisph.com), Sept 20 1995
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First, let me apologise to any intelligent humans that may be reading
this.
Second, no, I don't know why I do this.
Third, it's funniest if you actually *picture* the Gallifreyan chorus
singing, especially in those silly hats.
Fourth, it's to the tune of "Walk on the Wild Side" by Lou Reed.
Segal came from deep in the U.K.
Thought he revive Doctor Who one day
He liked it like you and me
But it was zapped by the BBC, I said
Hey babe. . . take a look at the new Who
I said hey honey, take a look at the new Who
All right.
Jean-Marc and Randy came on to the net
Some tried to listen and some wanted to vent
But they never lost their heads
Even when they were flaming Segs, they said
Hey babe. . . take a look at the new Who
They said hey, Segs, take a look at the new Who
And the Gallifreyans go
doo de-doo de-doo de-doody-doo
doo de-doo de-doo de-doody-doo
doo de-doo de-doo de-doody-doo
doo de-doo de-doo de-doody-doo
doo de-doo de-doo de-doody-doo
doo de-doo de-doo de-doody-doo
doo de-doo de-doo de-doody-doo
doo de-doo de-doo de-doody-doo
Now we'll wait 'till Feb or even May
Wonderin' if the advertisers'll pay
A 17 share will get us by
Else to Who we'll say goodbye, I said
Hey babe. . . take a look at the new Who
I said hey Yads, take a look at the new Who
And the Gallifreyans go
doo de-doo de-doo de-doody-doo
doo de-doo de-doo de-doody-doo
doo de-doo de-doo de-doody-doo
doo de-doo de-doo de-doody-doo
doo de-doo de-doo de-doody-doo
doo de-doo de-doo de-doody-doo
doo de-doo de-doo de-doody-doo
doo de-doo de-doo de-doody-doo
-- Christopher D. Heer (cheer@isisph.com), Sept 20 1995
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>But think about this - if Yads posts x number of bloody stupid posts
and
>you respond to all of them, that gives us 2x stupid posts to wade
through
>- not counting the fact that Yads responds to all of your responses.
>Simple arithmetic seems to say that your holy war only *increases* the
>problem.
Isn't that a pyramid scheme? Aren't they illegal?
"Hi, my name is Dave Yads, and I've got a sure-file way to $$$
MAKE.FLAMES.FAST $$$$....."
-- Paul Rhodes (paul.rhodes@liffe.com), Sept 21 1995
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>Ok, everyone. Nash has publicly pledged to end flaming Yads unless
Yads
>does something blatantly insulting, like spamming people's mailboxes.
[...]
>Posting that Nash is wasting space when he's no longer wasting space
*IS*
>wasting space, OK? OK!
"I'm sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed
up
in this country with being sick and tired. I'm certainly not, and I'm
sick and tired of being told that I am."
-- David "Python" McKinnon (mckinnon@math.berkeley.edu),
Sept 22 1995
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(re: why romana regenerated)
I reckon Romana stole Astra's body type for the acting skills, m'self.
-- David McKinnon (mckinnon@math.berkeley.edu), Sept 22
1995
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>I just watched 'The Curse of Peladon' and Jo kisses King Peladon (David
>Troughton) towards the end.
I think you'll find that she actually kissed him on the
cheek (upper left).
-- Peter Ware (percy@percyw.win-uk.net), Sept 24 1995
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Eva, who has never seen more than the cover of the Stranger, but thinks
that
it is already better than the Colin Baker Dr. Who's and should be
substituted
in for them. Wait, Peri's in this too, isn't she? We may have to
rethink
this in the future...
-- Eva Jacobus (ejacobus@mit.edu), Sept 26 1995
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> Opinions are my own but are open to any reasonable offer
Shall we say a tenner for a degree of uncertainty, and twenty for a 180
degree turnaround into becoming a drooling Cornell fan?
-- Paul Cornell (paul@cornell.demon.co.uk), Sept 28 1995
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(re: silly book titles like Return of the Living Dad)
Oh this is getting ridiculous. Is there some sort of in competition
between you lot for the silliest book title?
I thought Sleepy was weird enough. Kept thinking there were going to be
six sequels: Dopey, Sneezy, Doc etc.
What will it be next?
An Awfully Transcendental Adventure?
Four Wotans and a Funnel?
The Shawshank Redemption of the Daleks?
Reservoir K-9s?
Where will it all end?
-- Uncle Halibut III (etlrdsr@etlxdmx.ericsson.se),
Sept 29, 1995
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>An Awfully Transcendental Adventure?
>Four Wotans and a Funnel?
>The Shawshank Redemption of the Daleks?
>Reservoir K-9s?
The Usual Megalomaniacs
Hindle's List
A Console Room With a View (not by Cartmel, obviously)
Daleks: Invasion of Earth 2150AD
>Where will it all end?
Warriors' Gate (which will lose a fortune, bankrupt Virgin and put
people
off making New Adventures for the next ten years)
-- Paul Rhodes (paul.rhodes@liffe.com), Sept 29 1995
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On a related note, I hear that Derek Smalls was collaborating with
Robert
Holmes and Dudley Simpson on a musical version of _The Talons of
Weng-Chiang_
called _Saucy Jack_, until the former died in a bizarre script-editing
accident, and the latter tragically and inexplicably accepted a teaching
post in Australia. Derek was said to be "shocked and stunned".
Meanwhile, all that survives of St. Hubbins and Tufnel's _Stones of
Blood_
inspired concept piece _The Nine Travellers_ is this lyrical fragment...
"Boscawen, let me take you there
'Tis a magic place, with a spaceship in the air
Boscawen, where the witches dwell
'Midst the metal dog and the stones from hell"
Nigel's new solo album includes a "post-feminist love poem" inspired
by former companion Nichola Bryant...
"Baby baby, in that tight leotard
And your pink high-heels
Christ, it makes me hard
Baby Baby, all us men are mugs
For you running down corridors
And shakin' those jugs"
It'll appear on his forthcoming solo EP, "Intravenusian Lullabyes".
David Owen (dro@dsbc.icl.co.uk), Sept 29 1995
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>>: In case anyone is interested, the term "okay" originated in the
>>: presidential campaign of William Henry Harisson.
>>Where did you get this story? My understanding is that it originated
>>among supporters of Martin Van Buren, whose nickname was "Old
Kinderhook".
>My understanding from reading I did in US History 1 was that it is
descended
>from an African word and entered the English language as a result of
the slave
>trade.
That's not what I was told!
My supervisor swore blind that the entire expression was invented by a
swarm of twelve-foot-long Lakertyan piranha bees!
-- David "Golgafrincham" McKinnon
(mckinnon@math.berkeley.edu),
Oct 2, 1995
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>Fortunately there was a series of stories called "Doctor Who and the
>Mathematics Course" which accounts for my current career choice.
>
>It was known as "Season 18".
Ah, so *that's* why you're in history.
Ah, season 18. Whose most powerful mathematical character was an
adolescent
dweeboid who couldn't walk properly, and whose name rhymed with
"Badric".
Whose sophisticated treatment of platonic solids involved inflatable
cacti.
And whose mathematical season-ending blockbuster implied that by doing
your math homework properly, you could provide oreos for the rest of
your
class, too.
-- David "Mathematics" McKinnon
(mckinnon@math.berkeley.edu),
Oct 2 1995
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> Oh dear, you've discovered the truth.
> The reason that the image is reversed is because, unbeknownst to the
vast
> majority of the public, Peter Davison never actually stared as the
Doctor.
^^^^^^
Indeed. Kept his eyes moving, that one did.
-- Shannon Sullivan (shannon@morgan.ucs.mun.ca), Oct 3
1995
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>First up, no black-and-whites (or maybe just the one - The Aztecs ot
Tomb).
>They're good, but a new audience will want something a bit more
fast-paced.
"The Aztecs of Tomb"??
Oh, you're not still using the old '71 titles, are you? Normal people
with two working brain hemispheres wouldn't even *consider* calling that
story anything other than "The Plot-Hole That Ate Great Yarmouth".
>I'd probably start with 'Genesis of the Daleks' - good story, and
explains
>a bit about the Daleks. Then a random selection of other decent
stories, but
>including 'Logopolis' to explain regeneration.
Ooh, good choice. No one ever argues about the regeneration scene from
"Logopolis". Ever.
-- David McKinnon (mckinnon@math.berkeley.edu), Oct 3
1995
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(from a thread entitled "The good Doctor's name)
The *good* Doctor's name is "Doctor".
The *bad* Doctor's name is "Valeyard".
There. Wasn't that simple ?
-- David Owen (dro@dsbc.icl.co.uk), Oct 3 1995
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Getting back to the thread, sources in r.a.dw closer to Virgin than me
will be able to confirm that the seventh Doctor of the New Adventures
*is* vegetarian and is intended to remain so for the forseeable future.
BENNY: Doctor, Doctor, you've....changed!
EIGHTH DOCTOR: Bloody hell, I'm ravenous. Fetch me a bacon butty and a
cup of Bovril, will you ?
-- David Owen (dro@dsbc.icl.co.uk), Oct 3 1995
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>Rubes, who is going crazy trying to figure out how to post a coherant
>message.
Well, look us at don't help for. Most us of figured haven't either out.
Crazy are, however, yes we.
"Go Edmonton Hertiage!"
-- Brian Ghoti (ghoti42@ix.netcom.com), Oct 5 1995
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(on the subject of Return of the Living Dad, Kate Orman says:)
>> See if you can work out what it's about from the title. :-)
Its about 300 pages.
-- Mike Teague (etlmwte@etlxmdx.ericsson.se), Oct 5 1995
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>The *good* Doctor's name is "Doctor".
>
>The *bad* Doctor's name is "Valeyard".
>
>There. Wasn't that simple ?
You're wrong.
The *good* Doctor was Peter. The *bad* Doctor was Colin.
Nyah.
-- Peter A Davison (jmiller6@uoft02.utoledo.edu), Oct 6
1995
"some awesome guy"
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Chris Heer:
>>Right after they release The Invasion, I'd expect.
Jason Miller:
> Give it up, Heer. It's a pipe dream.
>
> We're never gonna see this story, face it.
Actually, I recently read that there is a way to obtain copies of "The
Invasion" in NTSC format. Apparently there was a series of broadcasts
made in Mexico, of all places, in early 1970. All of season 6 was
shown,
and archived in the national Mexican film centre. Later seasons were
planned, but funding for the project fell through.
Unfortunately for anglophone Who fans, much of the season was dubbed
into
Spanish, but "The Invasion" (and parts of "The War Games") were
subtitled.
(According to my Spanish-speaking friends, the translations are at times
idiosyncratic -- for example, when Jamie says to Packer, "Oh, so you can
read, can ye? What other tricks can ye do?" (in Vaughn's office), the
subtitle apparently translates to "How many women have you bedded with
your reading skills?")
So, it turns out that the Mexican government will send off copies of
these
videos to anyone who writes with a request, and includes an
international
money order for 100 Mexican pesos or $15 US per videotape. I don't
remember the address offhand, but if anyone is interested, email me and
I will look it up.
-- David "Connections" McKinnon
(mckinnon@math.berkeley.edu),
Oct 7, 1995
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>According to BBC World news new Planetary system discovered and
>possibilities of alien life speculated.
Ah, Mondas. How good of you to finally arrive. Shame you were nearly
10
years late, but what's a decade between invaders and helpless humans?
-- Gregg Allinson (whofan18@aol.com), Oct 8 1995
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>>Commercial breaks in the UK are not allowed as
>>a means of heightening tension
"No, sorry, you can't put that break there - it's got to go somewhere
where it
won't heighten the tension. Can you just shift it to the 'walking down
the
street whistling happily with absolutely nothing sinister going on'
bit?"
-- Paul Rhodes (paul.rhodes@liffe.com), Oct 9 1995
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>Yep. After the movie airs, I'm going to take BART across the Bay, stand
in the
>places the Doctor visited, quote incomprehensible lines from the show,
and
>re-enact scenes. And the fact that the movie will actually be shot in
>Vancouver won't stop me.
>
>Anyone else game?
Sure. In fact, I'll do you one better.
I'll accompany you across the Bay into San Francisco, and help you
re-enact
scenes from the movie in the relevant bits of San Francisco.
Then I'll fly to Vancouver, and recite incomprehensible lines from the
show in the places they were filmed.
Ha! Am I a sad fan, or what?
-- David "Study in Berkeley, live in Vancouver" McKinnon
(mckinnon@math.berkeley.edu), Oct 10 1995
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>Except the cimematography is always better, and the special effects
would
>blow Speilberg's mind, and the storyline would leave Kate Orman green
with envy
And David Green orman with envy. :-)
-- Kate Orman (korman@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au), Oct 11 1995
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> The idea of the Doctor (or anyone) calling somebody like the Master,
>well, Master is hard to believe.
Not when you realise that his real name is Gladys Ermantrude Splinge.
-- Mike Teague (etlmwte@etlxdmx.ericsson.se), Oct 11
1995
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(on the subject of missing doctor who episodes in mexico)
A UN panel was once put together to try to decide which country
was the most corrupt in the world. Mexico came in second.
But that's only because they bribed the panel not to put them
in first place.
Why do I tell you this?
Well. Thing is, while the Mexican government (through the Government
owned and administered Channel 11) has exclusive rights to the
Spanish language versions of "Doctor Who", as David wisely points
out they must surely be in possesion of the English language
originals. Yet, selling/distributing them would be illegal. And
of course, no mexican government Official has ->ever<- done
anything even remotely illegal.
At least not without making a buck in the process.
In short, while you can order the dubbed and/or subtitle versions
of the episodes through the addresses I've already posted,
I'm sure that some sort of ehr..... arrangement
can be achieved to obtain a "blank" videotape all the way from Mexico.
Chances are, Mexico being what it is, that the "blank" videotape
will be defective, containing some pictures of some silly old
black and white brittish TV show; but don't worry, you can record
over them any time you want. For a "reasonable" shipping and
handling fee, I'm sure you can get English-only versions of these
"blank" videotapes.
Now, the art of approaching a mexican official in order to bribe
them is as long and complicated as the Australian Condor Mating
Dance. Trying to do so without the proper training can lead
to serious physical injury (as well as warrants for your arrest,
and you would never be able to go to Mexico and feel safe again).
I recommend contacting somebody who grew up in that culture and
knows how to go about making these contacts and requests. I'm
sure only a small account fee will be charged by the person involved.
Oh, did I mention I grew up in Mexico?
Requests for these "blank" videotapes should be sent care of
Fulano Perez, through my e-mail address. Mr. Perez will
contact you later with the exact details.
-- Arturo Madigin (madigin@math.berkeley.edu),
Oct 11 1995
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>Not wishing to make a statement or anything but when I applied for my
US
>visa one of the questions on the form asked if I intended to engage in
>illegal and/or terrorist activities whilst in the US...
>Like..Duh! of course I am, and I'm going to tell you! :-)
Yes, but once you've signed that statement, if you _did_ engage in
illegal
and/or terrorist activities, then you'd be in breach of contract! You
could
probably get fined or something.
-- Paul Rhodes (paul.rhodes@liffe.com), Oct 12 1995
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>Oh, and if anyone from DWM is reading... Is anything going to be done
to
>make up for the fact that the lower half of the second installment of
>Gareth Roberts' short story mysteriously dematerialized?
Yes, the entire second installment will be rerun in the next issue. Gary
pleads a cock-up at the printers, but nonetheless still curls up into a
ball
in the corner if you wave the issue at him.
If BBC Presentation can accidentally fade out episode 5 of _The
Armageddon
Factor_ part way through its original screening, then Marvel feels it
should do likewise to evoke the atmosphere of *real* Doctor Who.
-- David Owen (dro@dsbc.icl.co.uk), Oct 12 1995
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>Why is it everyone on Earth gets soooo bloody excited every time they
>get invaded when they should be used to it by now?
Why is it that everyone on Earth gets soooo bloddy excited every time
they
have sex when most of them should be used to it by now?
-- Robert Smith? (g9526329@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca), Oct
13 1995
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(back on the subject of who episodes in mexico)
Agreed. Actually I suspect Mexico is hoarding the episodes in revenge
for
the Doctor letting Adric crash land into them 65 million years ago.
-- Steve Traylen (straylen@geology.wisc.edu), Oct 13
1995
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Paul Cornell:
> The fourth book in the series will be Douglas Adams' new
> novelisation of the Pirate Planet, which, with a sense of irony that
> matches my own, he has decided to only have published in Icelandic.
Hmmn.
Will Douglas receive his final advance from Reykjavik?
-- Doctor Who Monthly (doctorwho@marmags.demon.co.uk),
Oct 13 1995
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> There was me, that is Alex, and my three droogs, that is, Pete,
>Goergie, and Dim, and we sat in the Korova Milkbar trying to make up
>our rassodocks what to do with the evening.
Why not take yourselves down to Argolis for a bit of the old in-out ?
-- David Owen (dro@dsbc.icl.co.uk), Oct 13 1995
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(on the subject of Dimensions in Time)
>JNT got it made cannonical. It's got a production number and all.
Yes, 7Q/A. But it's real title isn't "Dimensions in Time". That was just
the name of the two episodes that appeared onscreen. It's real title is
"Doctor Cutaway".
-- Robert Smith? (g9526329@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca),
Oct 11, 1995
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> I hope Ainley is in it. I thought he was a great Master. Not
>hs fault that he was totally wasted.
Of course it was his fault. I'm sorry, but the peer pressure argument
just
doesn't hold with me. Nor does the "Being wasted improves my artistic
skills"
argument. What a load of rubbish. Although I never thought he was any
more
than a little tipsy in any given episode.
-- Eva Jacobus (ejacobus@mit.edu), Oct 15 1995
--
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FOX
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Not just cheer. . .|
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