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The January/February Smith? Quotefile.

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Dennis McLaughlin denmc28@anet-chi.com
[sung to the tune of "The Flintstones"]

Daleks!
Meet the Daleks!
They're the modern fascist supreme beings
From the Planet Skaro
Which Jon Blum thinks should stay history

Someday maybe Peel wins the fight
There'll be flamewars burning through the night
When you write for DocWho
Retcons crawling up your behind
Burn out your hard drive
We'll have a flaming time!

[cut to Terry Nation banging on Ben Aaronovitch's front door]

Terry: "SKAAA-ROOOOOOOOOO!!!!"


Mark Blunden
According to 'A History of the Universe', the Virgin writers' notes state 'The Doctor is not the Other'. But AFAIK they don't say 'The Doctor is not Rassilon'. Intriguing possibility?

Azaxyr azaxyr@aol.com
I think it's made quite clear in The Gallifrey Chronicles and in Five Doctors that the Dr is NOT Rassilon.

Dave lartigue@prairienet.org
I don't think anyone's ever said the Doctor isn't Harry Sullivan, now that you mention it.


David Green dgreen@pcug.org.au
I think that the pyramids on Kate's covers are simply - and I'll give some honest to God Freudian analysis here - representative of her breasts. Now, this may sound slightly odd, slightly irrational, BUT it's ironic that there are *two* pyramids on Set Piece, pyramids on the others. Call me a fool for thinking this but I believe that there is a great deal of immaturity involved in the New Adventures and I'm not surprised that such silliness would appear.

Greg McElhatton icedrake@erols.com
All right. You're a fool. Happy?

Sample phone conversation:

"Hello? Yes, this is Kate Orman. Listen, Darvill-Evans and Levine told me that you were providing the cover to my next book. I'm really fond of my breasts--would you be so kind as to include them somewhere in the art? Ta!"


Sean Gaffney gaffney@iconn.net
Ah. I love Dave's books ... 10/10.

Dave Stone dave.stone@ukonline.co.uk
What ?!? What do you mean you hated it!?! I'll have you know I sweated *blood* over it after nearly slitting my wrists halfway through! The trouble with people like you is you wouldn't know a well written book if it bit you on the bum! Take it back or I'm going to go round your house with a can of gasoline and ...

Oh ... er ... so you liked it, then. Um. Thanks very much - I'm glad someone noticed some of the bits I sweated the aforementioned blood over.

Sean Gaffney gaffney@iconn.net
Hey! Wait a second, Gary! You make take these reviews seriously, but I don't! They're just my opinions for God's sake! I don't influence the group as a whole, and there's no way that I influence whether people buy the book or not. And I'm not a critic, either, I'm a reviewer. Now I've said it a thousand times...

Oh. You're Dave. Um. Glad you liked the review. I enjoyed the book immensely.


[Subject: Re: Jon Blum is NOT gay.]

Azaxyr azaxyr@aol.com Jon Blum is gay!

Gay!

Gay!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Darryl W Gillikin dgilliki@runet.edu
How many of you are as surprised as I am that it took Henry *this* long to make this post?

Kate Orman korman@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au

He had to look up some of the words in the dictionary.


R. Dan Henry danhenry@inreach.com
So you've got to assume that the Doctor never bothered to look up Time Lord records on the Daleks any of those times he was on Gallifrey. Possible, but one more point where suspension of disbelief will be strained.

Ian McIntire imm@cwru.edu
When I read "War," I think that suspending my disbelief won't be enough. I'll probably expel it, and may wind up pressing criminal charges.


[Spice Girls as companions ...]

W Randall ch945738@silver.shef.ac.uk
Imagine the opening sequence of an episode:
the Doc lands the TARDIS in some unknown desolate Quarry place when suddenly we hear :"Sooo tell me where we are, where we really really are, yeh, tell me where we are, where we really really are.....

....what I really really want is sigga -sigma.."


Richard Prekodravac rprekodr@extro.ucc.su.oz.au

N E W A D V E N T U R E O F T H E W E E K
13th January 1997 - 19th January 1997

Timewyrm: Revelation
by Lance Parkin

Ian McIntire imm@cwru.edu

"The fact is, Dastari, I am not here on a purely personal visit. The Time Lords have detected Retcon Ripples of 89.5 on the Peel Scale, and your posts show no indication of decreasing."


GROK grok@ozemail.com.au
Despite all the reviews warning me not to, I just read 'Shakedown' on the basis that I have a particular interest in the Sontaran/Rutan war (if Rutans attack with electricity, who DO Sontarans wear so much metal armour? If Rutans can copy any form, isn't a race of clones at a severe disadvantage against them?)

Look, the storyline (ending excepted) wasn't all that bad at all, but I'd like to recommend a few commandments for future NA writers:

1. Thou shalt not have characters shout "No!", particularly on what seems an average of twice per page.
2. Thou shalt reveal information in ways other than dialogue
3. If character A dost not kill character B for a particular reason, then when character A meets character C, they shall not kill them if the same reason applies. We don't care if they're a minor or major character.
4. If thou MUST have the villain give a big "I am being triumphant, so I'll tell you all my plans" speech, thou shalt not draw attention to it by having said villain say "I am being triumphant, so I'll tell you all my plans"
5. If thou MUST kill off a character and then later tell us they're not really dead, thou shalt work HARD to justify it and make it plausible
6. If thou art going to give us a surprise, thou shalt not make it painfully obvious half a book in advance
7. If thou DOST give a surprise that is painfully obvious half a book in advance, thou shalt not attempt to end a chapter with the shock revelation of the secret
8. If thou DOST give a surprise that is painfully obvious half a book in advance, thou shalt not attempt to end TWO chapters with the shock revelation of the secret
9. If thou DOST give a surprise that is painfully obvious half a book in advance, and thou ends two chapters with the shock revelation of the secret, thou shalt not put a further chapter at the end of the book where the Doctor explains it all one more time "for the dummies"
10. Under absolutely NO circumstances, without exception, may you ever, ever, EVER have the Doctor diffuse the entire story by "Reversing the Polarity" of ANYTHING.
11. When the Doctor HAS solved the entire story, but the Sontaran pointing a gun at him doesn't know, that shalt not have the Doctor tell him. It isn't a great career move.


Phil Hallardchri0073@sable.ox.ac.uk
as because I found it utterly gripping finding out what could have happened instead of the McGann film. I thought a good number of the proposals were boring or dreadful, though not all, and I found many of Jean-Marc Lofficier's interpolations preposterous.

Randy/Jean-Marc Lofficierrjmlof@IDT.NET
Quite right. I'd say utterly preposterous myself. Writing these notes was very much like engaging in a grand radw debate: totally pointless but a lot of fun!

Jon Blumjblum@access1.digex.net
To quote "Dilbert", "I admire your ability to get paid for this!" Can you imagine what it'd be like if every one of us who spends far too much time on r.a.dw could get a book like our postings published? While "Retcon War of the Daleks" by John Peel and Jon Blum (et al) probably wouldn't be a big seller, I'd shell out for "QUOTEFILE: The Chris Heer Years", "The Wit? And Wisdom? of Robert Smith?", "Mawdryn Undead, Lives Before Hartnell, and The Five Doctors Paradox", "Banishment of the Daleks", "Mel! The Inside Story of the End and Beginning of an Era" (by Bonnie Langford and Alden Bates), "Paul Cornell Is Gay And You're All Out To Get Me", and maybe even a book of surrealist poetry by Ralph Silverman and Yaddy...

So whadaya say, folks -- shall we all turn pro?


Robert Smith? smithrj2@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca
I'd like you to prove it to the group *legally*, since you claim you can do this. And I claim Jason Miller as magistrate :-)

John Peel jpeel@newshost.li.net
Fine. Jason, what will it take to prove my case? I've offered two strong quotes and one good analogy. The defence has offered no rebuttal at all.

Jason A. Miller jmiller6@uoft02.utoledo.edu
MILLER, J., wrote the opinion of the Court:
The U.S. District Court, Northern District of the Internet, is rather baffled by the suit seeking judicial notice of the fact that Hartnell's Doctor was smarter than the subsequent seven.

Disfavoring this attempt to impose a "hierarchy of brains" upon the seven coolest science fiction characters of all time, as well as the Sixth Doctor, we now hold that any such effort must be proven by clear and convincing evidence. Such burden is to be carried by the plaintiff.

In the case at bar, the plaintiff has offered quotes from atypical anniversary stories, and refused to broach the subject of "The Keys of Marinus" and "The Space Museum" and other stories in which the First Doctor was too moronic to recognize signs of danger, and blundered straight into awful fates.

Petition denied. Costs to plaintiff for wasting our time.

GREEN, J., filed a dissenting opinion:
Why doesn't my esteemed brethren just shut the hell up? I'm horrified and sickened by your twisted pathetic effort to exclude Colin Baker, who's no less than a great actor, from the list of "cool Doctors". You obviously have severe emotional problems, Jason, and I think you should just leave.


Brian Smith lorenz@ibm.net
Wouldn't it be funny to see and hear a whole team of baseball playing Daleks who were wearing baseball caps over their eyepieces and shouting:

"MY VISION IS IMPAIRED!!! I CANNOT KEEP MY EYEPIECE ON THE BALL!!!"


R. Dan Henry danhenry@inreach.com
WOW! Hey, everybody! Kate's a GENETIC ENGINEER!!! And we thought all she could do was write books! :-)

Jonathan Blum jblum@access1.digex.net
Kate *tried* to be a genetic engineer -- why do you think she's writing books now instead? :-)

Kate Orman korman@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au
To pay for my cloning experiments, of course. "Mr McGann? I know most people just want an autograph, but do you mind if I swab some cells from inside your cheek?"


Robert Smith? smithrj2@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca
There's no reason that some offscreen adventure couldn't have been traumatic enough to precipitate the regeneration in Destiny.
Then again, maybe Romana hit her head on the bedpost and the manipulative second Romana triggered a regeneration so she could evolve into something more than just a companion... :-)


llhilton llhilton@cougarnet.byu.edu
Does anyone happen to know if the "extra footage" on the store-bought tape was broadcast on PBS, or if it can only be seen by buying the tape? If the latter, is it worth it if I already have SN from PBS?

Rob phd@who.net
The footage really isn't worth it unless you *adore* SN. If anything, the extended version is *more* confused, and sillier.
Pick of the crop is a completely pointless triple-cross subplot involving the nazi Carl, an I'm-on-your-side-no-I'm-not-ha-yes-I-am-had-you-worried-there moment straight out of the Mindwarp school of plot devices.


David Howe
For the sake of a conversation, how about your favourite *single line* that sums up each Doctor. I had a bash at this in the BBC TX File and it was darned difficult.

Robert Smith? smithrj2@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca
Minutes of painstaking research revealed the following lines which hold a very special place in my heart (much like chillies):

1) "Hmmm?"
2) "Argh!"
3) "Err?"
4) "Ah!"
5) "Ummm..."
6) "Eh?"
7) "Oh?"
8) "Ooooh!"


LoriGrenci lorigrenci@aol.com
I'll bet anything the women are all at the local bars, sipping Gallifreyan beer and watching male strippers. (That's where I'd be if I had to face the likes of Kelner, Lord Gomer, and Gold Usher on a regular basis. )

Kate Orman korman@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au
Gods, if the rest of them are like Kelner and Gomer, I'm staying well clear of those bars!!!

Jonathan Andrew Sheen jsheen@ma.ultranet.com
Waitaminute! Lord _GOMER_???????

"Well, Go-o-oll-eeee! Sha-Zayam! That Master feller, he's just plain _mean!_"

Some thoughts are just to horrible to contemplate.....


Randy/Jean-Marc Lofficier rjmlof@IDT.NET
Some of the other themes, taken together, would make an interesting collection of essays (with proper editing). "The Scrolls of Yadallee"?

Robert Smith? smithrj2@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca
I have never seen. That. Box. Before in my life.

I do not. Support. God, Queen and Country.

Ian McIntire imm@cwru.edu
No! Not the kill-file!


Mike Teague etlmwte@etlxdmx.ericsson.se
According to the Slow Drizzle '97 calendar (so it must be true !), today saw the first ever broadcast of the first episode of Doctor Who in Canada, in (wait for it) 1065 !!! A mere 860 years before television was invented !!! Bloody clever chaps these Canadians, eh ???

crow@sunlink.net
Oh, That wacky Meddling Monk.


[Subject: Re: The beeb's response to _Devil Goblins_]

Martin Day

Scenes involving drugs and (very mild or implied) sexuality have been left alone, as has most of the (not very extreme) 'violence', bar one or two clumsily-worded scenes involving the Doctor and the Brigadier.

Kate Orman korman@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au
... involving drugs, violence, or sexuality?

Dave Stone dave.stone@ukonline.co.uk
'My God, Doctor,' the Brigadeer exclaimed, 'the Silurians sssem to have set up a base camp in the Albert Hall!'
'Wow, yeah.' The Doctor passed the old soldier a rollup. 'Have a bang on that, man, get your shit together and pass me that fuck-off big UZI.'
As the Brigadier passed the gun to the Time Lord, their fingers brushed together.
'Do you know,' said the Doctor, 'I've always liked you in that shirt...'


Robert Smith? smithrj2@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca
Well, the title pretty much sums it up. Which colour stories do you think would look good (or better) as Black and White stories?

Dennis McLaughlin denmc28@anet-chi.com
Actually, I'd like to see "The Keys of Marinus" as a series of line drawings, "The Chase" as a collection of charcoal sketches, and "The Sensorites" as a shadow play involving finger puppets.


DuncanRV duncanrv@aol.com
It all depends whether you are talking about McCoy as in seasons 24-26 or the New Adventures Seventh Doctor. Personally I couldn't stand the TV adventures of the 7th Doctor Remebrance and Curse aside) and choose not to read the fan fiction writ large that is the New Adventures. Real Doctor Who is what we see on TV, not what the fevered imaginations of a few sad fans have published by Virgin.

Kate Orman korman@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au
I knew your posting would suck, even though I didn't read it first. :-)


Brett O'Callaghan boc@lin.cbl.com.au
I know plenty of "non-fans" who know of C. Baker and McCoy. And the above "quote" pretty much sums up their opinion of them.

Robert Smith? smithrj2@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca
You really should get out more.

Brett O'Callaghan boc@lin.cbl.com.au
Actually, I think you lot should.

langas langas@wr.com.au
You have hereby been denied entry to the International Snappy Comeback Society. Thank you for playing.


Kate Orman korman@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au
I can just see the pullquotes from the critics on the front cover:

JONATHAN BLUM AND KATE ORMAN

DOCTOR WHO - VAMPIRE SCIENCE

An epic novel of blood, death, and small furry animals

"Not too shabby." - Tim E. Rani

"Much too scary for me!" - Steven King

"There's no way in hell that I'm buying that book. I don't care how many lesbian vampires are in it." - Dave Becker


Dave Stone dave.stone@ukonline.co.uk
The Silurians aren't real, Russ.

They're puppets.

Russ Massey russ@wriding.demon.co.uk
I know that! I'm not stupid. Still they did a better job of hiding the strings in Silurians than in 5th Doctor stories. Ever wonder why we never see Adric go through a doorway?


[Subject: Re: Double Entendres?!]

tardismk40@aol.com
My favourite double entendre was not spoken, rather it was on screen in the episode where the Master had Adric in a HADRON force field. One only has to switch two letters and it is a vivid description of what transpired with Adric on screen.


[Subject: Re: Rejected Novels]

Daniel Frankham danielf@senet.com.au
Here are brief synopses of some of my rejected MAs. After all the effort I put into them, I thought I might as well post them here. I think they were rejected because they didn't feature the Doctor very much.

For I am a Jealous Dog
Set between Underworld and Invasion of Time
After watching all twenty-three versions of _Invasion of the Body Snatchers_ (in 0.045 seconds) K9 is disturbed to discover a large cardboard box labelled "K9 MK II". Upon investigation he learns that the box contains an almost complete replica of himself, but with superior computational ability... and firepower. Noting the Doctor-Master's increasingly zany behaviour, he soon puts two and two together... and thus begins a desperate battle for existence - and only one can survive!

The Almostcompanions' Graveyard
Set between bits of Logopolis and other bits of Logopolis
Tegan, wandering lost in the inner TARDIS, finds herself drawn to a vast chamber full of mouldering human and alien bones. Soon she meets a community of people who say that, like her, they once wandered into a mysterious Police Box and became lost - or are descended from people who did. The community is run by "Bill", a descendant of the community's founders, Oliver and Mary, geography and home economics teachers at Coal Hill School, who followed a mysterious pupil home in October 1963, many hundreds of years ago... After many adventures with her new friends, in which Tegan battles rival communities of lost souls, as well as various alien monsters and herds of feral sheep and goats, she decides to embark on a quest for the mysterious, never-seen "Pilot" of the ship, swearing to keep the community's existence a secret.

The Castellan, His Savage Girlfriend, Her Lover and Her Dog
Set after The Invasion of Time
On a dull day in the Capitol, Andred, Leela, Rodan and K9 (Mk I) explore their true feelings about each other. Among other startling revelations, we discover that K9 only stayed on Gallifrey because Andred promised to make him a sergeant (he likes the uniform), and Leela reveals that she really did fancy Andred a bit, and didn't just stay behind for Rodan after all.

Shawn E. Channell x93channell@wmich.edu
While I certainly respect the work you've put into these ideas, I must admit that Virgin probably made a good decision in rejecting them. They really seem quite flippant and I'm not sure they would do very well as published novels. As fanfiction they seem fine ideas, although they depart too much from the Doctor Who I am familiar with.

Philip Alexander Hallard phil.hallard@english.ox.ac.uk
I do love the invigorating "whoosh!" of jokes passing people by completely.


[Subject: Re: Wanted-"Dimensions in Time"]

Jon Green Jon@pghifi.demon.co.uk
This thread should have started with...

WANTED-"Dimensions in Time production team" ;-)


[Subject: Re: WE FIND BOOKS !!!]

Robert Smith? smithrj2@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca
If you find So Vile A Sin, could you let Ben Aaronovitch know (mind like a seive, that one)? Also, I'd like the copy of Genesys with the good bits left in, the copy of Iceberg that had the Doctor in it, the version of The Pit that Dave Becker owns and the original scripts of the Pertwee era that weren't dead snoozefests...


herman@acavax.lynchburg.edu
I was wondering about double entendres in Doctor Who. I remember there being a whole scene from Revelation of the Daleks when Peri, and the Doctor are scrambling over the wall. It has to do with the Doctor's watch, and I was wondering if anyone could remember the exact lines spoken by these two characters.

Paul Shields paul@korova.demon.co.uk
[crunch]

COL: Ouch, me nads!

NIC: Ooooh, saucy!

COL: You've trodden right on my plums you fat cow.

NIC: Oooh, I thought you meant something else. I'll get you another one. A watch I mean!

COL: No. You really have trodden on my bollocks. That's why I'm doubled up in agony on the ground. I won't be needing another pair however, I'm a timelord, I have a spare set.

NIC: Well, I'm sorry I trod on them - I mean it! Your watch!

COL: Oh GOD!


Jonathan Blum jblum@Glue.umd.edu
Ben was contracted to write about 400 pages. Not quite all of it was trashed, Ben and the Virgin editors managed to reconstruct a good chunk of it...

Mark Stevens mark@sonance.demon.co.uk
Have we begun to formulate conspiracy theories yet? Hard drive trashes can be deliberate, as well as accidental!

Jason A. Millerjmiller6@uoft02.utoledo.edu
A short African woman with graying hair broke into Ben's study, and turned on his computer, muttering something all the while about "smegging 20th-century primitive white-boy's non-sentient machine".
Calling up a list of all files SVAS-related, the woman was mortified to hear that the rumors were true -- this story, if printed, would destroy her very existence! She would cease to exist!
"Smegging hell. He's not going to do this to me!", said the woman, as she ran a heavy-duty magnet across the inside of the computer's memory circuits.

-Jason
"some Master of the Land of Fiction guy"


[Subject: Re: Just Got No Room No Doors]

PAngulo1 pangulo1@aol.com
Just wanted to let people know the 800-Trekker just sent me Kate Orman's No Room No Doors. The newest NA.

James Bow jbow@mks.com
I'm sorry, folks, but this thread's title is putting a Blues theme into my head.

Let's see how far I can go with this:

Baa-da-da-da
I ain't got no room!
Baa-da-da-da
I ain't got no doors!
Baa-da-da-da
Kate Orman burst in and knocked the Doctors to the floor!

I got the -- Kate Orman blues!
Baa-da-da-da
And that ain't no joke!
Baa-da-da-da
Right now I think she's got Paul McGann's head in a yoke.

My neighbours are complaining!
Baa-da-da-da
About all the noise!
Baa-da-da-da
SylDoc is screaming that he ain't somebody's toy

I can't go home!
Baa-da-da-da
Kate's taken it all!
Baa-da-da-da
There's some weird guy with feathers standing guard in the Hall.

The whips and chains are flying
Baa-da-da-da
And chocolate sauce too!
Baa-da-da-da
That's the last time I hold a party and invite the last two Doctor Whos!


Randy/Jean-Marc Lofficier rjmlof@IDT.NET
The Doctor met the Daleks in F&B. It was fairly easy to retcon. I did it in the notes.

Luke Gutzwiller lucifer@probe.net
Why has everyone suddenly come down with the Retcon Bug?

Greg McElhatton icedrake@erols.com
Let's do the retcon again!
Let's do the retcon again!

It's just a nudge to the text...
And then a quick rewri-wri-wriiiite!
You shuffle 'round the facts...
Make the new story tiiiight!
But it's the the die hard fans
("ska-ro ska-ro ska-ro")
That really go insay-say-sane

Let's do the retcon again!
Let's do the retcon again!

("Say, do you guys have WAR OF THE DALEKS?")


[Subject: Re: Favorite Lines from The Brigadier]

Attribution Lost

"Just between you and me, I am getting rather tired of hearing about your mother"

Andrew R. Vogel avogel@eden.rutgers.edu
That wasn't the Brigadier! That was me during the TVM!!!


Jon Blum jblum@access1.digex.net
You know, folks, this message becomes incredibly entertaining if you imagine it read by John Cleese. Picture him sitting on a Monty Python newsdesk set, about to deliver a Commentary. He starts out very restrained and formal...

David Green dgreen@pcug.org.au
Follow up to Shakedown message.

When I started to read the New Adventures, I was thrilled. Genesys was Adult Who, Exodus was simply a brilliant novel, Apocalypse entertaining and Revelation surrealistic. Then the weird shit began.

Jon Blum jblum@access1.digex.net
...gets more and more impassioned...

David Green dgreen@pcug.org.au
Disgustedly, some years later, I found out Apocalypse was written in three days. Is this a professional writing and if it is not, what is it doing in a supposedly professional series? Something published and for sale for four pounds ninety-nine or however much it is in England in supposed to be professional. A published novel, written in three days, is just not professional-sounding to me. It usually takes YEARS to write a novel... that's why ICEBERG was one of the best written ones. Amongst quite amusing and hard to get through selection of dismemorable books,

Jon Blum jblum@access1.digex.net
...and less and less coherent... (By now Cleese's eyes would be beginning to bug out, and his tie would be askew...)

David Green dgreen@pcug.org.au
you have the one classic WARHEAD which is the best of the lot. Then you've got LOVE AND WAR, a reasonable book, not half as good as all of the so-called "fans" (who could be unidentified liars) wrote it out to be. OK, so it had love scenes in it which were quite simply absolutely (if I may) crukking ridiculous as they were set in the future and were meant to be some kind of future relationship scenario for man itself.

Jon Blum jblum@access1.digex.net
...and then Cleese finally loses all semblance of control and begins ranting at the camera, eyes bulging, veins in his throat standing out, without regard for contradicting what he said just a couple of sentences above:

David Green dgreen@pcug.org.au
I could go on about my opinions of this very bad but at the same time very amusing book but I just won't bother. Not this time. You've all been too just absolutely bastards and arseholes to me from the first time I wrote an opinion so you can just live in your worlds of New Adventures and miss out on the good stuff, which you won't have because your tastes will be so badly developed. There is not another single book I can recall that I admire apart from BIRTHRITE.

Jon Blum jblum@access1.digex.net
...and then he catches himself, sits down, straightens his tie, smooths his hair, and concludes with perfect dignity:

David Green dgreen@pcug.org.au
Cheers.


Luke Gutzwiller lucifer@probe.net
All this talk of the Eighth Doctor's manipulative tendencies gave me an interesting idea. _What if_ a future (post-"Enemy Within") Grace had met a past Doctor? _Then_ the Doctor has an excuse to know her future in "Enemy Within". It'd be neat to see how Grace handled the encounter...would she try and snog, say, Colin Baker? Or does she only go for the more mature Time Lords (like Paul McGann at 1000+)?

Robert Smith? smithrj2@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca
"Wait a minute - your blood type, it's not human. Hey, that reminds me of someone...what did you say your name was? Doctor? Omigod, it's *you*! How have you been? Another new body, I see. Well, it's certainly...different...to the other two. Well, hey baby, so long as we're here why don't we try to rekindle some of that long-lost passion? C'mon, babe, you know you want it. Let me give it to you big boy!!!"

"What, oh...hmm? Yes, well, I say, it would be a fine thing, child, and I would really enjoy, yes, enjoy fault locating with you, yes indeed, but I really must be goi- *oof* mumph* *snog* Oh, to hell with it, hmm? Let's sneak away, yes away, I say to my secret villa in Space, er, Spain!"


Richard Prekodravac rprekodr@extro.ucc.su.oz.au
I should have stayed here. The oldest sci fi newsgroup: decadent, degenerate and rotten to the core. ... Red Dwarf, Babylon 5 ... Star Trek they're still in the nursery compared to us. 33 years of television history. Thats what it takes to be really corrupt.


Kate Orman korman@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au
Nope - I don't think I'm physically capable of working through the night. Instead, I pull an "all-dayer" - working until I actually fall asleep at the keyboard. :-)

R. Dan Henry danhenry@inreach.com
Ah, that explains the mysterious passage: "Having laid that evil to rest he then fgrfgbrhe 462v"


Richard Prekodravac rprekodr@extro.ucc.su.oz.au
Never have a cried watching a Who episode but I often find myself in tears when reading the New Adventures.

Shawn E. Channell x93channell@wmich.edu
Obviously you never watched "Silver Nemesis", I cried for days ;)


Jean-Marc Lofficier rjmlof@idt.net

From my conversations with Peter, it reminded me of the sandbox analogy they use on TREK books: the show is the sandbox. You can build a lot of things in the sandbox, but you're not supposed to tear down, enlarge, or modify in anyway the sandbox itself.
The TV folks can not only defecate in the sandbox but they can make matchsticks out of it if they feel like it. :-)
(Not that any producer I know would consciously defecate on what is after all his lunch box.) :-)


Quickcity quickcity@aol.com
And what, pray tell, is the "Humanian Era"?

Daniel Frankham danielf@senet.com.au
That's when the Doctor picked up that human Ian.



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