Quotes from rec.arts.drwho, alt.drwho.creative and uk.media.tv.sf.drwho


February/March 1997



14 Jan 1997
rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

Yads
The ONLY way to get DW back on the air is to toss out the Bord of BBC Governors, in essence meaning tat the UK had better not re-elect a Tory majority.

Martin Nike
Wow. I'm suprised the labour party haven't picked up on this.

New Labour New Doctor.

(As long as it's not Tony Blair.)

Graham Holland
"Bord"? Surely you meant to say "BORG of BBC Governors"?

Luke Gutzwiller
Or the "BORAD" of BBC Governors. One person, cleverly cloned 12 times, who plots to splice "Doctor Who" and "Coronation Street" as part of their plan to repopulate TV with their own foul hybrids.


14 Jan 1997
rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

Robert Smith?
Re: Outcry concerning Doctor Who

I think the main outcry to be heard is usually something along the lines of "Graaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace!"


Wed, 15 Jan 1997
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Azaxyr
I take back everything I've ever said about the McCoy era of Doctor Who. After rewatching the episodes, I've decided that it is the "golden age" of Doctor Who, and I was a fool for ever putting it down.

Richard Prekodravac
Actually I kind of think of it as dirty grey.

Azaxyr
Witness the brilliance of Dragonfire, and the subtle nuances of such classics as The Curse of Fenric. I would personally like to apologize to Jon, Kate, and anyone else I may or may not have hurt emotionally with my venomous anti-McCoy diatribes. I have seen the light.

Richard Prekodravac
the rec.arts.drwho project was our last, best hope for ...

Brian Glen Palicia
You are Kate Orman and I claim my Pepsi Free.


17th January 1997
rec.arts.drwho

Kate Orman
It's true, the half-human is a cliche, drawn from a lot of familiar mythology. But give me a lab, and I'll cook you up a plant that's half-tomato and half-potato, and put human genes in pigs and firefly genes in tobacco plants. Given sufficiently advanced technology - which Gallifrey probably has - a half-human Doctor is far from impossible.

Jonathan Blum (Misatrib?)
WOW! Hey, everybody! Kate's a GENETIC ENGINEER!!! And we thought all she could do was write books! :-)

R. Dan Henry Kate *tried* to be a genetic engineer -- why do you think she's writing books now instead? :-)

Kate Orman
To pay for my cloning experiments, of course. "Mr McGann? I know most people just want an autograph, but do you mind if I swab some cells from inside your cheek?"


Fri, 17 Jan 1997
rec.arts.drwho

Spice girls as companions...

Martin Day
Mel C (she's the sporty one, right?) would be a more gorgeous version of Melanie Bush.

Alden Bates.
Not possible. ;-)

W Randall
Imagine the opening sequence of an episode:
The Doc lands the TARDIS in some unknown desolate Quarry place when suddenly we hear :
"Sooo tell me where we are, where we really really are, yeh, tell me where we are, where we really really are.....

....what I really really want is sigga -sigma.."


Thu, 16 Jan 1997
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Richard Prekodravac
They say yes. You can vote for "Who Killed Kennedy".
Although the jury is still out on the novelisation of the TVM.

Brigadier Nathan Rogers
The Tranvestite Movie? The one starring Rupaul as the 8th Doctor and Dennis Rodman as its companion you mean?

Kate Orman
The "its" is cute. "To us, that's rude!"- Riker

Dave Stone
Just to be vaguely serious for a moment, a trannssexual is and should be referred to by whichever sex he or she identifies as. Likewise, a transvestite is referred to by whichever sex he or she's currently emulating. Terms like 'it' or even 'hir' and so forth belong in SF and should never be used for humans.

The Doctor, of course, being half human, might be referred to as a 'shi... - um, I think I'd better leave that thought exactly where it is.


Thu, 16 Jan 1997
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Dave Stone (On Time Rift)
There's going to be another one? Can I write a scene? I have this idea about AC Chapin, a large fruit salad and a wind-up frog ...


17 Jan 1997
rec.arts.drwho

If Dr Who were a corn series

Christopher Miles & Gravis :

How many story titles do you think we can change so that there's a hint of corn in them? Let's see:

An Unearthly Child -> An Unearthly Corn
Remembrance of the Daleks -> Remembrance of the Corn
The Twin Dilemma -> The Corn Dilemma
The Invasion of Time -> The Invasion of Corn
Castrovalva -> Corn

Brad Filippone
The Web of Ear
The Hand of Ear
The Greatest Corn in the Galaxy

Zygn B Zygn
Let's See...we have:

The Seeds of Corn
Planet of Corn
Terror of the Corn
The Three Corns
-- and my favorite --
Planet of the Corn

Corny, eh?

Andy Smith
No, no! Must resist! Can't hold out ! Argghhhhh! The Cornerites! NOoo! make it stop!
The Reign of Corn! The Dalek Invasion of Corn! PLEASE, PLEASE, MERCY!
The Corn Makers!
The Tomb of the Corn, The Abominable Corn, The Cornminators! Colony in Corn! The Corn Factor, The Mark of the Corny, The Talons of Corn-Chiang! Ahhhhhhhh!
(Beats himself sensless with his mouse to prevent any more damage, and lands in a crumpled lump on the floor.)

James A Hammerton
Only to be buried under a mountain of corn that mysteriously appeared from nowhere...

Lorrill Buyens
I *told* you guys you'd set the transmat controls for the wrong destination - now what're the farmers in Poland going to feed their pigs?

Brigadier Nathan Rogers
They could feed them some of Yads and Seganox's posts. That ought to hold them over until this is sorted out...

Bill Thompson
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Where's Smith? when we need him?

Robert Smith?
He's corn and left this thread.
Damn Aussie cobber. Wheat better fix him real good. Who wants to stalk him?

- Cornelious

Wal Anderson
Better find a good cereal killer. What? Who's there? No! STOP!
SOMEONE HAD TO
SAY I;hjkdfvgazb

We apologise for this break in transmission. Regular service will resume as soon as we've finished our cornflakes.

--- The Corn Avengers

Kate Orman
This is amaizingly corny, Colonel.

Christopher Miles & Gravis
Well, thanks, but you haven't provided any more DW cereals that I can slip corn into.

Susannah Tiller
Bah! That joke's so bad I'm going to shuck it into the trash

Lorrill Buyens
Stop it! That's enough! You guys are making me rye...

Chris Rednour
Howzabout...

The Corn
The Dinosaur Corn
The Corn of Time
and
Cornhusk from space

James A Hammerton (who can't believe he just wrote that)

Corn Circle
State of Decaying Corn
Warrior's Corn-plaster
The Ears of Weng-chiang
Attack of the Cybercorn
The Cob of Fenric
Cornfield
The Cornflakes of Doom
An Unearthly Ear
The Corns of Nimon
Earhead from Space
The Cornfields of Androzani


Thu, 16 Jan 1997
Rec.arts.drwho

Ross Mandell
Remember "Sleep is for tortoises".

Luke Gutzwiller
Oh my God! Peter Davison is a tortoise!(-:

Despite the E-Mail that a moron has been distributing throughout the Internet as we speak, Peter Davison is absolutely not a tortoise. He is not half tort--


Sat, 18 Jan 97
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Marcus
Meanwhile Im chuffed because my new TV aerial is picking up Anglia loud and clear. And considering I live on the South West edge of the Carlton region I think thats pretty impressive. Thats what you get when the bloke who installs the aerial looks the spit of Pat Troughton!

Jason
The only down side is that you're now receiving *next* weeks shows and the sounds a little distorted. A sort of wheezing, groaning quality to it...


Sat, 18 Jan 1997
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Brigadier Nathan Rogers
I've heard Microsoft is making a new Internet all-in-one called K9 97 [hiding]

David Margerison
And about as reliable as the original I'll bet......:)

The Gallifreyan Stallion
Oh thats just great isn't it.

Brigadier Nathan Rogers
Dunno. I'm going to get a copy^H^H^H^H^H borrowed version :)

The Gallifreyan Stallion
Lets face it, were all going to go out and buy K9 97 the moment it comes out, and then be forced to upgrade to a Pentium Pro with 250 Megabytes of RAM just to run the basics!

Brigadier Nathan Rogers
Wouldn't that be 256 megabytes :) I mean with 250 you might be able to run the browser and the time rotor, but not much else. But with 256 you'll be able to turn your computer into a full blown dog on wheels (complete with laser for zapping annoying people, like siblings :)


rec.arts.drwho 16 Jan 1997 Re: Burning Heart: Review by the Happy Guy

Sean Gaffney
Ah. I love Dave's books ... 10/10.

Dave Stone
What ?!? What do you mean you hated it!?! I'll have you know I sweated *blood* over it after nearly slitting my wrists halfway through! The trouble with people like you is you wouldn't know a well written book if it bit you on the bum! Take it back or I'm going to go round your house with a can of gasoline and ...

Oh ... er ... so you liked it, then. Um. Thanks very much - I'm glad someone noticed some of the bits I sweated the aforementioned blood over.

Sean Gaffney
Hey! Wait a second, Gary! You make take these reviews seriously, but I don't! They're just my opinions for God's sake! I don't influence the group as a whole, and there's no way that I influence whether people buy the book or not. And I'm not a critic, either, I'm a reviewer. Now I've said it a thousand times...

Oh. You're Dave. Um. Glad you liked the review. I enjoyed the book immensely.

Richard Prekodravac
Hey! It's not worth losing your head over!

Oh.

(Page 69-70, if you were wondering-Random)


19 Jan 1997
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Zygn B Zygn
If Doctor Who was a horn series, we would have episodes such as:

The Honk in Space
Carnival of Horns
Horns of Nimon -- (No change there :) oh..Niiiiiimmmoonnnn)
The Invisible Horn
The Tomb of the Horns
An Unearthly Horn
Planet of the Horns
Earth-honk
Four to Honk
Ressurection of the Horns

** I honk for Doctor Who ** -- Makes a great Christmas Gift

Richard Prekodravac
I'm not sure about this but I believe some fans complained about the beeping in Transit and Iceberg. :|


19 Jan 1997
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daearnshaw
Since you mention them, why do the Fifth Doctor's braces (Cultural change. I hope the Doctor doesn't wear what I think of as suspenders) keep swapping from side to side in "Planet of Fire"? I can only think that he keeps taking them off and then putting them back on again.
What's going on?

Henry Potts
Well, you see, there's this attractive, nubile, young woman called Peri and... do you know the birds and the bees bit? :)


20 Jan 1997
alt.drwho.creative

Thomas M Kosak
I am looking for a Dapol Film Dalek.

Will Howells
Have you tried the lonely hearts columns?


Mon, 20 Jan 97
rec.arts.drwho

Phil Hallard
I had a dream last night about the Other's pet duck.
I think I ought to see some kind of specialist.

Steve Biggs
A quack?


Thu, 23 Jan 1997
alt.drwho.creative

Alden Bates
Sad is...
When you read Altered State and try to work out exactly when the Doctor got changed out of that silk kimono that Daleks made him wear in chapter 5.

Yikes.


22 Jan 1997
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Re: Time Rift - The Novel??
TheLeisHiv
Are you sure you want to embark on another Time Rift project? Remember the border of insanity you almost crossed when making the video.

I'm just teasing you...go for it.

You can have a neon TARDIS on the cover (ha-ha)

Robert Smith? [1]
And the quote at the top of the back cover can read:

"How verrrrry con VEEEEEEN ient!!!"

[1]famous impersonator of Graeme Burk impersonating Jon Blum impersonating Sylvester McCoy...


Tue, 21 Jan 1997
rec.arts.drwho

Re: TOP 10 things I learnt from the Telemovie
22. YOU CAN NEVER BE =TOO= CAREFUL.
Marcus E. Durham
23 - Always check the scanner.
24 - Get a companion and send *her* out of the TARDIS first.
25 - Wonderbra's are cool
26 - The new Daleks are played by Alvin and the Chipmunks
27 - America is a dangerous place. You might get shot!
28 - Wheres a robot dog when you need him?
29 - Beware of Chinese kids with large machine guns
30 - Beware of people who are doing silly Terminator impressions
31 - Without the beard the Master's abit crap really
32 - Never let an interior designer loose on the inside of the TARDIS
33 - Dont let your new console be designed by Amstrad.
34 - Nyssa is far far more attractive than Grace.
35 - The Doctor is half Gallifreyan.
36 - If you wear the special DIT 3D glasses you can catch Mr Blobbys secret cameo in the TARDIS.


23 Jan 1997
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Brett O'Callaghan
It works if you try to think as a TV Executive.

Robert Smith?
Bret, Brett, Brett. I've *warned* you about these oxymorons...


Thu, 23 Jan 97
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Azaxyr
No, I'm just an insomniac.

Jason
So am I, it keeps me awake at nights worrying about it...


Thu, 23 Jan 1997
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Stephen Souter
Basically , i think there are two possibilites , either Gallifrey is patriarchal , male-dominated and sexist, or else there aren't very many Time-Ladies in the first place . What does anyone else think?

Daniel Frankham
Your second supposition is correct. Due to a quirk of Gallifreyan genetics, only about one in a hundred Gallifreyans is born with the features that, on Earth, are known as "female secondary sexual characteristics". Since Time Lords don't have and raise children in the way we do, breasts, for example, are somewhat redundant.

In one story - I think it was Banishment of the Daleks - the Doctor explains that Gallifreyans once reproduced in the same way as humans, but since this function was replaced by technological techniques, female characteristics have become increasingly rare. I think he compared it to the way moles become blind because they live underground or something...

However, another story - if I recall correctly _Citadel of Dreams_ - has it that all Time Lords are now born male, but a few, like Romana, choose to wear breasts and use a highy pitched voice for aesthetic reasons.

Thus, if it appears that there is an unrepresentatively small number of "women" in positions of authority on Gallifrey, this is merely a result of our human prejudices, our expectation that alien gender-groups are as symetrically proportioned (so to speak) as local ones.

Hope this helps.

(BTW, since you're new here, and asked so nicely to be treated gently... this is all a load of old bollocks :)


Rebecca J Anderson
And the Seventh Doctor would be Death of course, and the Eighth... well, he'd have to be Vain Beauty, wouldn't he?

Luke Gutzwiller
The First Doctor would have to be Extreme Annoyance, the Second would be Bugger-All-This-For-A-Lark, and, in my opinion, the Sixth Doctor could only be Eyesore. The Fourth would undoubtedly be Shemp.

K. M. Wilcox
No, the Fourth would be Ringo. The fourth of anything is Ringo. [Insert smiley here]
Like the Four Horsemen: War, Pestilence, Famine, and Ringo.


Sat, 25 Jan 1997
uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

Stuart Burns
Advertising for presenters? Where did you see this? Perhaps we should all apply and send in photos of ourselves in Cyberman costumes or something like that. Show them we could out-fanboy the fanboy they've already got.

(BTW I wonder if he's the one who's going? Imagine if he went to BBC 1 - "And now on BBC 1, a treat for Doctor Who fans as we enjoy another episode of EastEnders, starring Barbara Windsor, who once starred alongside Jon Pertwee in Carry On Screaming! and let's not forget former characters such as Eddie Royle who was once a Terrileptil and Dot Cotton who played a noble lady in The Time Warrior." I'm sure he could work a DW reference into just about any programme he announced!


24 Jan 1997
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Quickcity
While there is no on-screen evidence to back me up here, I've always thought of Time Lord society as an oppressive government. I've also wondered why there's never been a Gallifreyan revolution, where the regular folks try to depose the Time Lords. Or is that in some fan fiction or novel somewhere?

Robert Smith?
Actually, yes. There's a piece of fanfic available where the high council are deposed towards the end of the story. Their schemes are exposed and their various mistakes brought to light.

It's not too bad, as fanfic goes, but there's lots of continuty references and the tying together of old plot threads and monsters that so much fanfic suffers from. And it does tend to drag on a bit and is a bit confusing in the middle.

It's known by several names, but most people seem to agree on one of them: The Trial of a Time Lord.


25 Jan 1997
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Kate Orman
Read it again, Henry - I'm not saying *I* can cook you up a half-human, half-Gallifreyan;

Henry Potts
No? What about a cheesecake then? :)

Lorrill Buyens
Half-human, half-cheesecake? You *fiend*! B-)


25 Jan 1997
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TARDISMk40
This may sound like a newbie question, but what is retconning?

Jean-Marc Lofficier
You can't do it unless you're named John, Jon or Jean(-Marc). It's a rule.


28 Jan 1997
alt.drwho.creative

Kate Orman



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Wed, 29 Jan 1997
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Random Companion
... Dave Stone will utter the occasional Fnerk and once in a while say something that makes you realise that he's a lot smarter than you ...

Dave Stone
I think you've just exposed my entire raison d'etre, Random.

Fnerk.

K. M. Wilcox
Ewww!! Put it away, put it away! Thanks a lot, Random!
[Insert smiley here]

Why do I have a sudden urge to get some raison d'bran?


28 Jan 1997
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Jon Blum
Poster 1: The McCoy era sucks.
Poster 2: Why? I loved 'em. What didn't you like about 'em?
Poster 1: I hated this, this, and this...
Poster 2: But if you look at the stories, that's not what happened!
Poster 1: Help! Help! I'm being oppressed!


30 Jan 1997
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Jon Green
Totty? Totty? Did I hear *Kate* saying totty?

Kate Orman
Totty, totty, totty.

Besides certain Doctors who shall remain nameless, there's a lamentably short list of lustworthy gentlemen in the series. They include Chela from Snakedance, the Guard brothers, and Ancelyn and Mordred. Of course, YTMV.


Fri, 31 Jan 1997
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Marcus Durham
Oh bugger me. This is getting silly and a waste of my download time.

Alden Bates
People in glass houses, Marcus. :-)

Jon Green
Shouldn't have sex....


Fri, 31 Jan 1997
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Nick Caldwell
Well, no, but I just had the astonishing mental image of Ben roaming around his house, sleepwalking, Homer style, muttering "Must destroy manuscript. Must circumvent reader's expectations. Must eat.. donuts!"


30 Jan 1997
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Andy Smith
YOU MEAN TO TELL ME IT'S NOT OVER YET!!!!????? I figured after a month away, somebody must have crossed the finish line and forgotten to tell me! Here I've been lounging around in this grimy space port feeling sorry for myself after getting hopelessly lost in an asteriod belt. Quick my clone legions, revive yourselves! Rev up the engines! We can still make it!

And just in time for Star wars too...

Andy,
Who wonders if anyone's ever flown into those three paragraphs at the beginning of the movie. I mean, come on, there're just sort of floating aimlessly in space; somebody's gotta hit 'em eventually...


30 Jan 1997
Help needed - milkman wanted.

rec.arts.drwho

Richard Prekodravac
Hey does anyone happen to know who played the milkman in Survival?

Marcus Durham
I cant remember. My memory isnt what it was but I could swear I once knew somebody who knew the bloke who played the milkman.

Robert Smith?
I'd like to nominate this post for something, since I believe Marcus has now reached new heights of pointlessness... :-)

Marcus Durham
Did I...Shall I....Bugger I cannot remember.

Who am I? :-)

Glenn Langford
I just got a vision of a newbie starting off on radw with this thread and going "whafuck?"

Alex
It was just this sort of exchange that sucked me in.

200 irate posts on the exact nuances of a line, which was; after all, written by a script writer, mangled by a script editor, delivered by an actor and then cut by the producer, didn't make me want to waste my time.

But bad puns and implausable theories in like minded company are having their malign effect on my phone bill.


Sun, 2 Feb 1997
alt.drwho.creative

Paul Gadzikowski

When I started watching DOCTOR WHO I lived in Chicago, where the local PBS station was airing it at 1:00 pm Sunday. Now I live in Louisville, where the local PBS affiliate airs BLACKADDER in about that time slot. I was led to wonder - suppose Rowan Atkinson had been cast as the Doctor this year instead of Paul McGann? Readers unfamiliar with BLACKADDER may try to imagine the Doctor's lines in this scene as delivered by the hornbill in THE LION KING.

(SCENE: The park outside GRACE's house. The DOCTOR suddenly reels and falls to his knees.)

DOCTOR: Something's wrong ... I feel like my colon's being put through a sausage maker...
GRACE: Can I help?
DOCTOR (looks her up and down): A little mouth-to-mouth couldn't hurt. You ARE a doctor. ... Wait. Wait. I'M the Doctor. Should I be giving myself mouth-to-mouth? What a disgusting image.
GRACE: You're the Doctor?
DOCTOR (standing): Yes - and you look a little pale. Let me help. (kisses GRACE) There, that's given you some color. Let's do it again. (kisses her again) God I've missed Earth. (reels on his feet) Someone has opened the Eye of Harmony!
GRACE: What does that mean?
DOCTOR: It means that, unless it's shut again before midnight, this whole planet will be sucked into it like human waste flushed down the lavatory. (he is then distracted by looking at Grace again)
CUT TO:
(SCENE: Interior TARDIS, the MASTER and LI standing at the open Eye of Harmony. The Eye is displaying the DOCTOR's P.O.V. of GRACE's cleavage.)
LI: I recognize that woman.

In the timeslot before BLACKADDER I watch CHEF, so I wondered the same thing about Lenny Henry. (SCENE: Interior TARDIS - the Eye of Harmony chamber. LI is dead on the floor and the DOCTOR is locked in the stocks. The MASTER opens the Eye with GRACE's retinas and dashes to his reception station.)

DOCTOR: Grace! Get back to the console!
GRACE: If I don't free you you'll die!
DOCTOR: Well, thanks for the thought, Grace, but I don't really fancy being rescued only to be sucked out of existence thirty seconds later along with an entire solar system like it was soapsuds down the bathtub drain! So if you don't mind I'd really prefer if you got your colonial keester in there and saved the world, if it's not too much trouble, thank you very much!
(GRACE of course has listened intently to this, and runs to the console room only when he stops.)
MASTER: I'm draining your memories, Doctor!
DOCTOR: Oh, good - are you getting the bit about the pus blister plague on Cylindricon VI? I could do without the Sirius dog brain stew one from 2186, too. Is there anything that compares to a brontosaurus passing gas? Hey, how about that elevated train that derailed in the Chicago Loop right on top of the 1998 St. Patrick's Day Parade, what fun, eh? Of course the memories I'll miss the least are the ones with YOUR ugly faces in them!!


1 Feb 1997
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Azaxyr
Yes Jon, we have heard all your propaganda before, but that doesn't stop you from keeping it up every chance you get, eh?

Luke Gutzwiller
Yes Azzy, we have heard all your propaganda before, but that doesn't stop you from keeping it up every chance you get, eh?

Darryl W Gillikin
[Darryl puts on a brown trenchcoat, dusts off his old high school media credentials, and shoves a microphone into Robert Smith?'s face]

So, Mr. Smith?, how does it feel to be spawning disciples?

Robert Smith?
[Smith? peers at microphone and then notices camera. A hadn reaches out, blocking the view]

"Gerrof! You kids! I'll have you for this..."

[Take two]

"Ah, yes, Darryl, thank you for asking. Obviously, it's wonderful to see such bright and promising youngsters such as young Luke taking over from their elders. And it's especially amusing when you realise that Azaxyr is actually a biomechanical construct of Jason Miller's that went horribly wrong. I think that the more who follow the true path, the more enlightened, and persuaded, this group will be. Just call me Monarch."

[Smith? looks fondly around the newsgroup, smiling to himself]

"Crap! It was all crap! Hee hee. Wait, is that thing still on...? Darryl, can you just edit that bit out? Ta..."


Mon, 03 Feb
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James Bow
I'm sorry, folks, but this thread's title is putting a Blues theme into my head.
Let's see how far I can go with this:

Baa-da-da-da
I ain't got no room!
Baa-da-da-da
I ain't got no doors!
Baa-da-da-da
Kate Orman burst in and knocked the Doctors to the floor!

I got the -- Kate Orman blues!
Baa-da-da-da
And that ain't no joke!
Baa-da-da-da
Right now I think she's got Paul McGann's head in a yoke.

My neighbours are complaining!
Baa-da-da-da
About all the noise!
Baa-da-da-da
SylDoc is screaming that he ain't somebody's toy

I can't go home!
Baa-da-da-da
Kate's taken it all!
Baa-da-da-da
There's some weird guy with feathers standing guard in the Hall.

The whips and chains are flying
Baa-da-da-da
And chocolate sauce too!
Baa-da-da-da
That's the last time I hold a party and invite the last two Doctor Whos!


Fri, 31 Jan 1997
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Alden Bates
On the first month of 1997, RADW gave to me: 243 last words on retconning, 149 remembrances revisited, 134 McCoy eras, 71 returns, 68 evaluations, 67 remembrances, 62 Philip Segals, 61 Jon Blums, 60 virgins, 59 recons, 56 continuities, 55 announcements, 53 editorials, 44 devolopments, 40 NAs, 38 warm nights, 36 Colin Bakers, 35 unwritten rules, 34 weekly stats, 33 fathers and brothers and a fanboy in a small inflatable TARDIS.

Engin Award for most offtopic on topic post:
Spice Girls as companions...

Engin Award for scariest concept:
If Dr Who were a porn series...

Engin Award for the "say _what_?" thread:
5th Doctors torrid sex with Helen A!

Engin Award for the most innovative word in McCoy bashing:
Cack! [Applied liberally to any and all stories in season 24 by the looks.]

This month's poser: if the Doctor had a holiday and nothing bad happened, would it be canon?


6 Feb 1997
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Brad Filippone
And while you're at it, buy anything by John Peel and Kate Orman. (OK, you two, where's my money?)

Craig A. Reed Jr
John's put all his money into Skaro Furtures, while Kate is trying to single handedly corner the Chocolate sauce market........


Sat, 25 Jan 1997
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Glenn Langford
"Ooh, Peter - can I please have 'Things That Allow For The Possibility That K9&Co Doesn't Count' for a thousand?"

"Certainly - and please remember that your answer must be in the form of a question."

"OK, Peter."

"For $1000 and the game - 'This is a way to get out of doing anything, particularly destroying planets with the approval of their creators who decide later on that it was a pretty silly thing to do, really, but it seemed pretty funky at the time.'

"What is Having It Retconned By John Peel?"

"That is correct - you've taken the game!!"

(Writer suddenly runs on from stage left waving script)

"No, no, no - he wasn't supposed to *win*!"

"Security! Please escort Mr Nation from the set, please."


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Leviathan
I take it this means I don't get smothered under Dorothee MacShane?

Dave Stone
Nope. You get horribly murdered in a really horrible way involving a toilet and an impossibly powerful vacuum pump.
You also star in the absolutely worst joke I've ever written, involving the name 'Mr Sheen'. Brit readers will know what I mean, here ...


18 Feb 1997
rec.arts.drwho

R. Dan Henry
You forgot sock puppet shows. It isn't *really* Doctor Who until somebody re-enacts it with sock puppets.

Robert Smith?
At last!
More fuel for my theory that Timelash is the ultimate DW story!


Sat, 08 Feb 97
rec.arts.drwho

Attribution lost:
The Brigadier did travel in the Tardis in Three Doctors, although not in the usual way. The Tardis, with the Second Dr and the Brigadier were transported to Omega's Black Hole when it came in contanct with a giant blob of jelly. (no, really, I'm serious...)

Lisa Hilton
Do you mean it was jammed?

Keith Topping
Unless, of course, they were orange giant blobs of jelly. In which case it would have been marmaladed.


7 Feb 1997
rec.arts.drwho

W Randall
Ohh:
Ro, Ro , Ro Romana, Gently down the stream.. "


6 Feb 1997
rec.arts.drwho

Keith Topping
How y'doin' Smithy me old mate? Nice to see that for one person on this group at least, irony *isn't* what they do to their shirts after washing...

Robert Smith?
*tips*hat*

Oh, and I should apologise. I was completely and utterly wrong. That "irony" routine now makes it *two* jokes...

:-)


9 Feb 1997
rec.arts.drwho

Brigadier Nathan Rogers
"The Yads Files" Every week, Dave Stone and his assistant, Sgloomi Po, investigate weird instances of Yads. In the pilot, they discover that "coherence is out there". :)

The Doctor
Keep off the whiskey, there is a good fellow.

Jim Vowles
This week: we investigate the strange disappearance of the Aaronovitch Papers, and find out a bit more about the role of the mysterious Tofu-Eating Woman in their recovery...

(imagines sound of RADW whistling a weird mix of X-files theme and Who theme... )


Sat, 8 Feb 1997
rec.arts.drwho

The Doctor
David Stone just earned himself a ban for LIFE!!

Dave Stone
Quite right, too.

The nerve of the bastard, running around being David at people with *my* surname.


Fri, 07 Feb 1997
rec.arts.drwho

R. Dan Henry
In the episode of "Xena: Warrior Princess" set in the 1940's Ares is kept imprisoned by "The Eye of Hephaestus". Let's see, a god held prisoner by an artifact "Eye" named after another god... It's a blatant rip-off of "Pyramid of Mars"!!!
And what about ER. All those people called "Doctor"!!!
And the Superbowl!!! The players are so obviously modeled on the Ogrons!
And this post!!! Clearly ripping off "The Sunmakers"!!!


10 Feb 1997
rec.arts.drwho

Paul Shields
Note to all the mad, jealous inadequates who like to hassle Jon:
He's just made a mistake here. Write it down quickly in your note books. This is the moment you've spent your lives preparing for.

Jon Blum
I have to make at least one a year -- it's in my contract. :-)


11 Feb 1997
rec.arts.drwho

Random_Companion
Wasn't anything else that made you hallucinate then, Dave?

Marcus Durham
Holding disgusting season 24 parties no doubt! ;-)

Ey, up, we don't like your kind around here, Dave. You can take your sick and depraved practices back to your own kind and leave rec.arts.drwho for the rec.arts.drwho-ish. We're a decent, God-fearin' folk around here and we won't hold with none of that nonsense. I didn't fight and die in six world flame wars for the likes of you to be holding disgusting and morally wrong parties like that. Ooh, it makes me sick to the bone to think of it!

- Sickened from Canada.


Tue, 11 Feb 1997
rec.arts.drwho

Keith Topping
I haven't got a good side, Random, haven't you heard, I'm the devil incarnate...?

K. M.Wilcox
It could be worse. You could be Devil Con Carne. [Insert smiley here]

Brigadier Nathan Rogers
Or even worse, Doctor In Chocolate*
:: hiding ::
* This is not a Kate Orman running gag.


Fri, 14 Feb 1997
alt.drwho.creative,rec.arts.drwho

Robert Smith?
And gosh darn it, I want Camfield Doctor fiction and I want it *now*! :-)

Jason A. Miller
[Warning: The following story contains incest]

The Camfield Doctor lovingly caressed the machine. The genetic loom which had brought him to life, sat quietly throbbing with muted yet potent ecstasy.
Its weaves stood fully erect, looking fragile yet rock-solid. The Doctor reached out to probe them with his fingers.
The machine trembled in response. The Doctor grinned wickedly.

"Ah, mother," he said to the machine. "This time, the pleasure will be all *mine*".

Elsa Frohman
Dear Mr. Miller:

While we appreciate your input (dare we say "submission?") and do find considerable literary merit in this story we're sorry to inform you that it does not meet our needs at this time.

First, let me say that while we found the sexual imagery associated with the genetic loom quite intriging, we were disturbed by the implication that this was the "Camfield" Doctor, a being that we are not ready to endow with canonicity.

Secondly, we find that while this writing sample is quite brief, and within those strictures it might have been difficult to include more description, it is sadly lacking in anatomical references, other than those pertaining to the genetic loom.

We do encourage you to contact us in the future if you have other material you would like considered.

Thank you
The PMEB-EF Editorial Staff

Submit to the PMEB-EF list! It's your destiny!


Fri, 31 Jan 1997
rec.arts.drwho

Dave Stone
Possibly it's the beer, the all-nighter I'm pulling on SoF, or the after-effects of the car that clipped me a few days ago, a couple of hours after after having a lovely long rant at at the Fitz at Random and Jason (no real damage, for anyone who cares, but I got incipient blood-poisoning off the pavement that had to be treated pretty damn pronto) ... anyhow, I've got this case of utter and possibly clinical paranoia.

It was brought on by that post of Yads, saying something about how I've got banned for life or some such, mentally cross-connected to problems with my system and server which meant I've recently been getting long periods of no posts coming in at all.

Basically, I have this horrible - and as I say, probably entirely paranoid - idea that Yads might have done something nasty to my connection. Problem is, I know just about enough about computers to know that some poor sod with no life and who's more at home with Unix than coherence can do something like that.

So, if the people I know could take the time to simultaneously post to this and mail me, just so's I can k now I'm still getting stuff out and back, I'd be more than grateful.

I'm serious here, if not exactly in my right mind - as can probably be seen from the rather phased and weird nature of this post ...

langas
This all of a sudden reminded me of a very weird answering machine message I found on the net somewhere. It went sort of like this (apologies to whoever wrote it for my misremembering);

"You have reached the Psychiatric Hotline. If you are obsessive-compulsive, press 1 repeatedly. If you are co-dependent, get someone else to press 2. If you are mentally-divergent, press 4, 5 and 6. If you are manic-depressive, press 7 and then hang up. If you are paranoid-scizophrenic, don't worry about pressing any numbers because we know who you are and where you live."

Feel better now, Dave? :)


Wed Feb 12
rec.arts.drwho

Dave Stone
I think you have to take the 'p' off the end of the email address. It's a spambuster.

K. M. Wilcox
When busting spam, remember that you must _never_ cross the streams. It would be bad. [Insert smiley here]

Brigadier Nathan Rogers
But not if fighting the Marshmellow Man or the Spam Monster :)

K. M. Wilcox
Which gets me to wonder how a Who/Ghostbusters crossover would look. Hmm. What would happen if the boys in beige opened up on the Tardis with their proton packs?

Kate Orman
It would be bad.


Thu, 13 Feb 1997
rec.arts.drwho

Alden Bates
Alden "Not Marcus" Bates.

Brigadier Nathan Rogers
Yes, but are you canon? :: hides ::


Fri, 14 Feb 1997
alt.drwho.creative

Marks Robert B
I'd like to see somebody write a death scene for the Doctor.

Alden Bates
Not bothering to check the scanner, the Doctor sprinted boldly out of the TARDIS, hoping for a glimpse of the last spectacular sunset before the Earth plunged into the sun.

Unfortunately, he was a day late.

Five minute fiction? Try 30 seconds. :-)


Sun, 16 Feb 1997
rec.arts.drwho

Dave Stone
This is just to let all you lovely people know that I am now, officially, a Man of God. I have been ordained. I am now the Reverend Dave Stone.

I'm serious.

The deal is this: The Universal Life Church believes that the proper unit of spirituality is the individual - and, rather like those mail-order things that make you a vicar for a couple of grand and the price of a stamp, they are prepared to ordain anyone who asks them on the spot, for free.

Obviously, in one sense, it's just a bit of nonsense done to prove a point - the point is that in the technical, legal and very real sense, I am now the Reverend Dave and fully entitled to all the benefits, accreditations and duties that accrue. I can perform marriages, I can christen people, and lots of religious-type stuff like that. I've got the certificate saying I'm the Reverend Dave and everything.

It's a big responsibility, but I'm more than up to the task. I am now ready and able to minister to the spiritual needs of r.a.d.w. I will be taking confession momentarily. Please form an orderly queue outside the vestry.

Fnerk be with you, my children.


Sat, 15 Feb 1997
rec.arts.drwho

Unanswered questions - Sky Pirates!

Alden Bates
Page 313, during the flashbacks, whe get the image of:
"A thick-set, slightly jowly man in a striped shirt and red braces, with an expensive grey-tinged haircut and with hard, cold eyes..."
I don't recognise this description. One of the pre-Hartnell Doctors perhaps? :-)

Dave Stone
It is, of course, Mr Michael Grade, that being the one being in the universe capable of totally destroying the TARDIS.

Incidentally, they made me cut the most horrifying TARDIS vision - a sixties dolly-bird in a vinyl miniskirt, bopping around and singing how she wanted a Dalek for Christmas, so she could attach something to it's big toe ...


20 Feb 1997
rec.arts.drwho

Brigadier Nathan Rogers
If the Doctor landed on the Death Star, how would he foil the Empire's plans to blow Aldaran (sp?)

Jim Vowles
1 Doc: He'd claim it was a mistake to get involved, then Ian would punch out a stormtrooper and get chased around a bunch. Meanwhile, Governor Tarkin would fall for Barbara.

2 Doc. He'd get captured, then escape and run around a lot. Then he'd get captured again, and escape with the keys to the firing mechanism.

3 Doc. He'd reverse the polarity of the neutron flow, disabling the main guns. Jo would break Leia out of the lockup, while Unit went shopping for stormtrooper guns.

4 Doc. He'd have K-9 take out the command staff, trick Tarkin into revealing how to disable the main guns, trip Vader with the scarf ("The scarf will be with you...always."), and rig the thing to blow up.

5 Doc. He'd try to reason with Tarkin, and discover that the Death Star didn't actually work anyway, it was all a bluff.

6 Doc. He'd make a big speech at Tarkin, after riggin the computers to *think* that was Alderaan, and let them blow up something remote.

7 Doc. He'd sadly tell Ace that the destruction of Alderaan force the Rebels to unify with galactic backing, and ultimately led to their victory. If need be, he'd press the firing button himself. But he'd let Ace drop a sack of nitro-9 down the shoot when Luke actually missed with his proton torps.

8 Doc. Palms Darth's lightsabre, and threatens to kill himself unless the firing is abated. When that fails, goes to Alderaan to warn them of the danger, but is not believed by pretty Alderaanian scientist until it's nearly too late.


11 Mar 1997
uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

Aidan Alexander Folkes
Isn't "I'll get me coat" what Lewis says in Morse quite often?

Alex

-...  ..-- .-- ....  -.--
.-- --- ..- .-..  -..  
.- -.  . 

.  ...  .-..  .-  -.  -..    ..  -.    -  ....  .   
---  ..-  -.  .-.    ....  .  -...  .-.  ..  -..  .  ...    
...  .-  -.--    - .... --  --

Fri, 21 Feb 97
rec.arts.drwho

JOHN LONG
What a horrible way to communicate! Let's just stop using English altogether.

Eva W Jacobus
Alors, je n'ai pas de probleme avec cet idee. J'oublie le plupart de ce que j'ai appris de francais, mais je peut le lire et les autres peuvent me comprendre. Il y a aussi des avantages d'utiliser francais - David Yadallee est eloquent quand il ne parle pas son langue natif. Shannon, David McK, et moi, nous pouvons discouter des choses mathematiques du Who. Merci, cheri, pour cet idee merveilleux.

Keith Topping
I love it when you talk dirty...

trinalin
That's telling 'im Eva! (Um what are you telling him?)

My translation:
'Allo, Jenny passed problematic ideas. Jubilantly plural DCK (ooooh, another Acronym. Meaning Doing Casual Kicking - often used in IRC - that's Internet Relay Chat) Jay appreciates Francis (oooh, a little risque, eh, Eva?), mice jump the lira (sounds even kinkier - rodents AND foreign money. Eva, what took hold of you to say this???) and the others prevent me understanding it. If I an Aussie with avantages of using Francis (woah-hoh!) - David Yadallee (the same in any language, shamefully) am as eleoquent as quantities of illness participate on language natives. (That sounds like a run on sentence Eva. Are you sure you proofread this?) Shannon (good man - not many like him on the net), David McK (he's cool too, for a math person), and me (being Eva), never prove discounting the choicest mathematics of the Who. Thank you, Cheryl, for this marvelous idea.

Why did you call him Cheryl? I thought your argument was sound until then...


Sat, 22 Feb 1997
rec.arts.drwho

Nick Caldwell
Indeed. For instance, I used to think that YMMV meant: "Your Move, My Victim" which gave some of the discussions here a somewhat different flavour!

Glenn Langford
I think I like your meaning better!!


Sat, 22 Feb 1997
rec.arts.drwho

Paul Gadzikowski
*I've* always wanted to see Leonard Nimoy in his STAR TREK makeup singing "It's Not Easy Being Green".


Sat, 22 Feb 1997
uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

MONEY MONEY MONEY!!!!!!!!!!

Marcus E. Durham
You are Abba and I claim my 4 free Swedes :-)


Sat, 22 Feb 1997
rec.arts.drwho

Dear Mr Pot,

Please stop calling me black.

Yours,

The Kettle.


Mon, 10 Mar 1997
rec.arts.drwho

Random Companion
Crap effects are a preference in what is known as Fan-life...


Mon, 24 Feb
rec.arts.drwho

Alden Bates
Random: Yes, it's true!
Marcus and Alden both look at her oddly.
Marcus: Wot? So you _did_ blow up the toilet?
Random: no...
She whisks off the wig, alters her voice and somehow loses three inches in height.
Random: I am Mel!
Marcus: Oh Gawd.
Alden faints.
Hey, Marcus, can I write the next episode?

Jason
Marcus, if *he* writes the next episode I want to write the one after and retcon it!

Random: [Rises groggily to her feet and rubs the substantial lump on the back of her head] So it was all a dream?
Jason: [Hic!] Yesh, here 'ave a drinky...


24 Feb 1997
rec.arts.drwho

Kate Orman
"I'm a bastard," said the Doctor.

"You're a what?" said Sam.

"Bastard," said the Doctor. "My parents were never married. So I'm a bastard."

"Fair enough," said Ace, breezing in explicably through the scene.


Tue, 25 Feb 1997
rec.arts.drwho

R. Dan Henry
The role of fandom is keep people with no lives busy.

I thought that was in the charter.


Tue, 25 Feb 1997
rec.arts.drwho,alt.drwho.creative

Jonathan Blum
This brings something to mind... what do you think would be the reading tastes of various companions?

Ian McIntire
Well, let's see. ISTR Ian reading a pulp sci-fi mag in "The Chase." I can easily see Adric picking up a copy of "A Brief History of the Universe" and spluttering with disdain. Now that you bring it up, there's one phrase I just can't get out of my head:
"Waldo located at co-ordinates 37 by 61, master."


Mon, 24 Feb 1997
rec.arts.drwho

Richard Prekodravac
Does RADW actually play a role or is it in a world of its own.

K. M. Wilcox
Until recently, RADW was playing Jean Valjean in "Les Miz", but the whole production was recast, and rec.arts.comics.creative has the part. RADW is, however, next in line for the lead in "Victor, Victoria".


Thu, 27 Feb 1997
alt.drwho.creative

bhk@tm.net.my

Great Tourist Destination:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Malaysia: The Tranquil
Land of Enchanting Beauty

Alan "oops" Taylor

Great
Tourist Destination:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Deva Loka: The Tranquil Land of Enchanting Beauty Stretches & stretches of almost identical looking jungle like stuff. Or is it tropical forests? Who can tell, under those hot hot suns?
Multi-Racial Harmony. Well, there's the Kinda, but they don't talk much, and a couple of English blokes. Oh and Nerys Hughes.
She's Welsh, so that makes it Multi-Racial.
Beautiful Cultures. Some of the local women are quite good looking.
Well-preserved historical & religious monuments. Not quite how Mary Morris would like to be described, I'm sure, but a more respectful description than "wrinkled old bat".
Peace & Harmony among different races. Not.
Great weather. You might almost think that the entire planet was indoors.
Malaysia is a great tourist destination that flourished on political stability and welcomes all visitors with hospitality unequalled anywhere else, except possibly the dark places of the soul where the Mara hangs out. That sort of place isn't a great place to go. Apart from anything else, you'll be faced by representations of your own subconsious, and we all know how embarrassing that can be, don't we boys and girls?

Thu, 27 Feb 1997
alt.drwho.creative,rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho,sci.space.policy,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,alt.sci.planetary,uk.misc

PackMan
Recent accolades....
uk.misc "Grand Wazzock"; demon.local "Fuckwit of the First Order"(2/97).


Wed, 26 Feb 1997
rec.arts.drwho,alt.drwho.creative

Jonathan Blum
(I'm always fond of starting threads which could give authors neat throwaway references for future books. :-)

Peter Anghelides
Well, you chose a good subject line then, Jon. It sounds like the Third Doctor at his most improbable:

"Don't laugh, Liz. Y'know, the P'Tang Fnarg race of the planet Blum IV are completely blind and deaf, but can communicate entirely through the four billion tastebuds on their seven foot tongues. I remember accidentally spilling a jar of Hellman's mayonnaise onto one of their sacred scripts, and being hailed as the greatest poet in forty of their generations."

Must dash, I can hear BBC Books beating a path to my door. Not.


Sat, 1 Mar 1997
rec.arts.drwho

Aidan Alexander Folkes
Cheese is the Sandwich of Rassilon.


Thu, 27 Feb 1997
rec.arts.drwho

Alden Bates
Is "I need the Doctor's body" not a double entendre then?

Audra
For some of us, it's our raison d'etre... :->


2 Mar 1997
rec.arts.drwho

Keith Topping
That's *it*! The solution to your Devil Goblins problem:
Lethbridge-Stewart looked at the traitorous man before him.
"You suck."

Robert Smith?
Gee, thanks. Now I have an image of Nicolaus Courtney staring at the evil villian, moustache twitching slightly and saying (in that inimitable 'old soldier' voice):

"Dude!!! You really suck, man, you know that?"

Expect the bill from my therapist soon...


Fri, 07 Mar 1997
alt.drwho.creative

Bruce Greenwood
Yes, folks - MasterMoney(tm) is proud to present the instructions for building your own TARDIS absolutely free*!

To begin with, you need a calculator, a small piece of copper wire, and a source of virtually unlimited power. Glue the wire to your calculator. Drop the other end of it into the VUPS. Then, enter the equation E=mc^3 into the calculator using your current standard reality quotient (in omegas, or rassilons/3.144 if using imperial) and the localised gravity flux as your base measurements. In no time at all, you too will have a working TARDIS!

This has been another fine service provided by MasterMoney(tm).

* If you don't have a power supply, or don't know what your current standard reality quotient is, then merely leave $1000.00 in small unmarked bills behind the toilets at King's Cross station on a Wednesday before 3pm, and we'll give you all the help that we can. MM(tm)




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