This is a telephone interview which took place
just prior to Drunvalo's travels to Europe in
March 1999. Because Drunvalo was excited about
so many things we chose to focus on one of Drunvalo's
favorite subjects...children.
Diane: So Drunvalo...who are these "Children of the
New Dream" that you are so excited about?
Drunvalo: Well there are 3 different kinds of children
emerging in the world today that I have been able to
identify. The first are called the "Super Psychic
Children of China". The second are called the "Indigo
Children" and the third are called the "Children of AIDS".
The first one, the "Super Psychics of China", we talked
about in the Flower of Life seminars.
If you remember, the first one was discovered in 1984
when a child was found who was psychic beyond belief.
Researchers conducted every psychic test you could
imagine and he was 100% correct every time. You could
turn cards over in another room and that didn't matter.
He could perfectly know what was on the card. So Omni
magazine went to China and wrote an article on this
discovery. They found one child and then another.
When they went in 1984 they assumed it was a hoax so
they did experiments like putting 100 kids in a room
and taking a book and randomly pulling out a page. They
would crumple it up and stick it under their arm. These
kids could read every word on the page. They did test
after test, and the response was flawless. The phenomena
didn't stop there. These kids are not just in China. They
have spread all over the world. I personally have been
talking to parents who ask me, "...what do we do.. I have
a kid who knows everything?"
I believe Lee Carroll is calling the children being born
here in the U.S. "the Indigo Children". I personally think
the two groups are coming from the same source, however,
I don't know that for sure. There appears to be two
separate groups, incredibly psychic and amazing. It is
the third group that I am most interested in -
the Children of AIDS.
About 10 or 11 years ago in the US, there was a baby
born with AIDS. They tested him at birth and at 6 months
and he tested positive for AIDS. They tested him a year
later and he still tested positive. Then they didn't test
him again until he was 6, and what was amazing is that
this test showed that he was completely AIDS free! In fact,
there was no trace that he ever had AIDS or HIV whatsoever!
He was taken to UCLA to see what was going on and those
tests showed that he didn't have normal human DNA. In the
human DNA we have 4 nucleic acids that combine in sets of
3 producing 64 different patterns that are called codons.
Human DNA all over the world always has 20 of these codons
turned on and the rest of them are turned off, except for
3 which are the stop and start codes, much like a computer.
Science always assumed that the ones that were turned off
were old programs from our past. I've always seen them
like application programs in a computer.
Anyway...this boy had 24 codons turned on - 4 more than
any other human being. Then they tested this kid to see
how strong his immune system was. They took a very lethal
dose of AIDS in a petri dish and mixed it with some of his
cells and his cells remained completely unaffected. They
kept raising the lethalness of the composition - and
finally went up to 3,000 times more than what was necessary
to infect a human being and his cells stayed completely
disease free. Then they started testing his blood with
other things like cancer and discovered that this kid
was immune to everything!
Then they found another kid with these codons turned on
- then another one - then another one - then 10,000,
then 100,000, then a million of them - and at this point,
UCLA, by watching world-wide DNA testing, estimates that
1% of the world has this new DNA. That breaks down to
approximately 60 million people who are not human
by the old criteria.
Diane: Is this new codon activation found
only in newborn children?
Drunvalo: Well, it's mostly children, but now they are
finding adults with it too - just like the hundredth
monkey theory. Now all kinds of people are being affected
by it and it's spreading fast. Remember, it started just
5 years ago with almost no one and now it's spreading -
just like a disease. It's like an outbreak and this is
only the beginning. The other part of this concerns the
new book entitled "Cracking the Bible Code" - which has
to do with running the Hebrew Books of the Bible through
a specialized computer program. If you go to page 164 of
this book, it shows where these researchers put the word
'AIDS' into the program to see what would happen.
When they did, the program translation provided words
like "HIV", "in the blood", "the immune system", "death"
- all the things you would think you'd see around the
word AIDS, but down in the corner was this sentence that
they didn't understand and it said - "the end of disease",
and that is what I believe is happening here.
Science has stated that there are so many people showing
up with this new alien DNA that they now believe that
a new human race is being born on the earth today and
apparently they can't get sick. Now what is really
incredible - they believe that it is a very specific
emotional, mental body response - a waveform coming off the
body that is causing the DNA to mutate in a certain way.
I've sat with Gregg Braden who was one of the first
persons to write about this and what we believe is that
there are 3 parts to this phenomenon. The first part is
the mind that sees unity. It sees the Flower of Life. It
sees everything interconnected in all ways. It doesn't
see anything as separate.
And the second part is being centered in the heart -
to be loving. And the third thing is to step out of
polarity - to no longer judge the world. As long as
we are judging the world as good or bad, then we are
inside polarity and remain the fallen state. I believe
these people (with the new DNA) have somehow stepped out
of judging and are in a state where they see everything
as one and feeling Love. Whatever they are doing within
themselves is producing a waveform that when seen on
computer screens looks almost identical to the DNA
molecule. So the researchers think that by the very
expression of their life that these people are mapping
with the DNA - resonating it - and are changing these 4
codons and in so doing become immune to the disease.
What they don't know - and this is where a lot of research
gets to happen - is so maybe they are immune, but is there
anything else? They might be immortal, who knows. Maybe
there are other characteristics that we haven't even
dreamed of. I often wonder if they are all linked together?
Is there some form of telepathic connection that goes on?
Diane: Have you met any of these people?
Are they accessible?
Drunvalo: Well, I've known about this for over two years
and I have personally followed this path and I think I've
moved into what they are doing. I have gone into the
merkabah and asked my subconscious mind to change my
codons in the same way and ever since I began to do this
over two years ago, I haven't been able to get sick. I
don't know if I've been able to change them or not. I
guess the only way I'd know is with a DNA test.
However, I've been exposed to all kinds of things and
when someone gets sick I purposely get close to them
and try to get it. I've been trying to get sick - and
I can't. I feel something come on - it will last maybe
an hour and then it's gone. What is interesting is that
hardly any of this new DNA is found in the Super Psychic
Children of China - almost zero. It is, however, being
found in Russia and the U.S. There seems to be pockets
of it and if what we are thinking is right - it has to
do with a very specific response which is where most
people in the New Age are headed for.
Diane: Do you think these people are creating
the DNA changes unconsciously?
Drunvalo: I think someone has made the path - one child
did it somewhere. Then he put it into the grids and it
is now in the subconscious of the earth and is accessible
to anyone. Once that happened I think somehow or another
other people have connected to this on a subconscious
level in deep meditation and prayer and made the change.
A new race is being born and it is one of the most
remarkable phenomenon that has happened on the planet!
It's incredible that no one seems to know about this
until now!
Diane: Well, you are the only one I've ever heard
speak about this.
Drunvalo: Well, I've been tracking this for about 2 years
and I've waited to say anything because I wanted to make
sure it was real. In the book called "The Indigo Children"
there has been extensive research on these children. There
are websites you can go to if you're a parent where they
begin to interview you about exactly what's going on with
your child.
Like I said earlier, these kids know exactly what you're
feeling and what you're thinking. You can't hide anything
from them. It's really amazing! I see it as a phenomenon
like the ET's except they aren't coming here in spaceship
form - they are coming here in spirit form making it
personal by coming into the earth's evolutionary cycle
and joining with us. I've often thought that when spirits
come in on the right side of the planet - Japan, China,
and Tibet for instance, the incarnating being takes on
the psychic characteristics (of those people), and if
they come in on the western side - the logical side
(i.e., physical characteristics) - then the DNA comes
in changed. But that's just speculation on my part.
I'm just looking at this and trying to understand what is
occurring. At the workshops I'm going to do in Seattle
and Denver in June, I'm going to bring everything I've
learned together and teach people to actually access this
and make the change. I think I know - or I'm very close.
Diane: And that has to do with putting yourself
in a certain state of consciousness?
Drunvalo: Yes, a very specific state of consciousness
produces a change in your DNA - and I think it's just
the beginning of much more than that. The fact that it
could be the end of disease is just a tiny bit of the
total picture.
Diane: How would this particular kind of work
and discovery affect the DNA activation work
that seems to be popping up all over?
Drunvalo: Well, if you know your light body and you know how
psychic energy works and if you understand the connection
of the subconscious to all life on this planet, then you
can go in and ask your subconscious. Your subconscious knows
exactly which codons those kids have changed and if you ask
for those things to happen through your light body and in
the presence of God, it should occur. It also requires
dropping polarity - no longer thinking in terms of good
or bad, but seeing the wholeness and completion and
perfection of life. It is a very definite mind, emotional
and body response. The body response is the one where your
body simply does not acknowledge good or bad, but sees
that there is a higher purpose behind it all.
We all know this stuff - everyone from Jesus to Krishna to
Sai Baba has been talking about this for a long time, but
this is the first I'm aware of where something actually is
changing in the outer environment. People's DNA is really
changing. Barbara Marciniak talked about going to the
12-strand DNA, and I've talked about chromosome changes.
There have been many of us who have talked about this -
but none of this had been seen by science. Now it has been
seen and it has been documented.
Diane: So, if that's the case, then what significance
does that have on our lives today?
Drunvalo: I believe that all of us have the choice to
follow this particular pattern that the children have
set up or not. It is said that the children will lead
the way. If we wish to and we trust these children, as
I do - one of the side effects is the immunity to disease.
Diane: There are a lot of us who are choosing
immortality. However, some people would say that
to be immune to disease is also to upset the life/death
cycle which has supposedly helped to keep the planet
in balance. How would you answer that?
Drunvalo: Well, I just don't judge it. This is happening
and if it is going to upset the cycle and it probably
will in some way - everything that is occurring in life
has a reason and purpose for it.
Perhaps these people who don't get sick anymore - perhaps
they won't even die anymore and maybe their consciousness
is so aligned with the original Purpose of earth that
ultimately it would mean an earth that is whole and complete
and not one that is polluted and deadly and over taxed.
We could easily live with 6 billion people or 20 billion
...if...we live differently. There is plenty of space and
it's just that we are using our resources in ways that
are killing the planet. If we were to choose to live in
different ways, that might change. Maybe through these
people the answers might become apparent.
For someone to move into a state where they are immune
to disease is a very powerful indication that they are
definitely in harmony with life somehow.
We can equate this process with the mutation of bacteria
and viruses. We attack their systems with pollutants such
as penicillin for instance, and it kills them all except
for a few. Those few get stronger. Now what's happening
is that these bacteria are getting to the place where they
are immune to the poisons we are giving them. And have we
not done the same thing? We are mutating to a point where
we are not affected by pollution or viruses or by disease.
And you know, there is another thing that happened last year
- AIDS dropped something like 47% - the largest drop of a
single disease in the history of the world. I believe that
it had a lot to do with this very thing we are talking about.
Diane: That's exciting!
Drunvalo: Yes, it is. I just let the earth prompt me where
to go. Of course, it is important to know our light bodies
and how to use them, but the children are very carefully
saying - come this way - and see where this leads.
Diane: So is this what your future workshops
will be focused on?
Drunvalo: Yes. I will be putting everything I've learned
in the last two years from my research and the Earth/Sky
work, into a simple response where anyone can move into
the place that the children accessed. I'll do my best!