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Free Trade Forever

Depressed about Chinese imports? sweatshops?
deplorable working conditions in South Succotash?
Cheer up! A little healthy exploitation never hurt anyone!

$500 challenge!

You get $500 if you can prove that the trade deficit is a bad thing.


Are labor unions beneficial to society, or parasitic?



Good Message Boards

good debates, philosophy, politics, economics, social issues

Below are some good message boards which are easy to get into. You have to register, but it's easy and you can post right away. These ones are open to all viewpoints. They don't kick you off or censor you arbitrarily as long as you obey the reasonable rules of politeness, etc.

These boards let you move from one post to another on the same topic without needing to click to another page. You can just scroll down through multiple messages which address the topic and argue with each other. These are a great debate forum for people who like to argue. Arguing is good.

FreeStateProject.org
Libertarian-oriented. Proposals for freedom-lovers to all move to one state and try to "take it over." Philosophical arguments about how to pull this off and what should happen in the "free state" after they "take it over."

3rdParty.org
Another minor political party. Maybe the best. Has a "Convention Floor" (message board) which lets participants shape the party's policies/platform proposals. Not necessarily conservative or liberal or moderate or ----. Just seeking the best positions on all the issues. (Note: This message board has had technical problems which hopefully will be (or are) fixed.)

XAT.org
Perhaps a little flaky, this one. Kumbayah, sweetness and light, butterfly wings, etc. But open to all viewpoints. Proposes a new economic system without taxes or "usury". But you can disagree and offer your own theories.

LibertyForum.org
Mostly libertarian. Lots of topics, easy to get lost.

More sites will be added to this list. This listing will be limited to high-quality message board sites only which allow easy access and are open to all viewpoints on the announced topics.



Here are some other pages/topics of interest:

PoliticalPlatform.net
Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, move over! Here is the "Best Political Platform" for the U.S.

FreeTradeForever.com

Neolib.net What is a "neoliberal"? Have you heard this term being thrown around? What is neoliberalism? Is this a political philosophy someone is promoting?

Night Owl Mk. II Philosophy of Life Good arguments, "Agree with me or show me where I'm wrong"

Minimum Wage Law Who is made better off by a minimum wage law? If such a law is good for society, why not increase the minimum wage to $30 or $40 or $50 per hour?

SocialContract.com

Labor Theory of Value Does anyone really defend the labor theory of value anymore? Where are you Marxists? Come and defend this theory or admit that Marxism makes no sense. Have you all jumped ship?

Write-in.net

That's a Lie! A listing of lies popularly told and accepted in society. Know any good lies? Add your own example(s) to the list.

OK2Kill When is killing right and when is it wrong? Capital punishment, euthanasia, etc.

Eugenics.net

ForbiddenIdeas.com like those just above. Do you know of any good "forbidden ideas"? ideas that make some people (the mindless idiot types) want to call you a commie or nazi or worse, just for mentioning them? Have some fun -- get called something evil by adding your own "forbidden idea" to the list. You haven't lived life to the fullest until you've been called a dirty name by some idiot.

WhyTheyHateUs.net The "war on terror" // Militant Islam vs. the West

DebateClub.net

Extensive list of minor political parties (You might have to scroll down a little to get past the 2 major parties.)

Shorter list of alternative political parties (some of the more serious ones):

The Third Party

The Revolution

Constitutionalist Party

Multicapitalist Party


Do you know of a good website that should be listed with the above? The best kind are those that are controversial and give some invitation to visitors to get their own opinions posted in response.

click here to give your suggestion. Also, if you have your own web page, we might trade links.











Do you have a bitch against "free trade"?
Post it in this web page (click here).

Or post your argument in the SocialContract.com Message Board. Or better yet, post it in a high-quality message board (see left column) and notify this website (click here) and we will do the debate in that message board.


All arguments against free trade (total unilateral free trade) will be posted in this site and debunked.


Opening Shot: THE SUCKING SOUND AND YOU General rundown and debunking of arguments from free-trade-bashers Ravi Batra and Gus Stelzer

Senator Edwards speech on worthless inferior textile workers

China Trade

That Nasty Ol' Trade Deficit

Trade Adjustment Act -- Subsidies to Laid-Off Workers -- Rewarding Parasites

Empirical Evidence for or against Free Trade -- Facts & Figures. Compare the GDP per capita of free-trade countries with protectionist countries. Which countries are the most free-trade and which ones the least?

Why do we need an "economic stimulus"? More snake-oil economics. The econo-babblers never quit.

"Sweatshops, Boycotts, and the Road to Poverty" by Radley Balko -- Read about the fate of laid-off sweatshop workers in Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, and Cambodia; see how anti-Globalist free-trade-bashers cause unintended consequences with their misguided crusade against sweatshops.

Lou Dobbs et al. More Snake-Oil economics from protectionists who deny being protectionists. politicians, TV personalities, etc. who pander to uncompetitive workers, promising them high-paying "jobs" that the rest of us will have to pay for

Prosperity produces labor unions. Labor unions do not produce prosperity. Why do wealthy nations have strong unions?

Whining Department -- For those with a bitch against Free Trade. Free-Trade bashers, post your arguments here.





Opening Shot:

THE SUCKING SOUND AND YOU

Introduction

Some popular arguments against free trade, refuted and debunked. You are invited first to read:

Ravi Batra, The Myth of Free Trade (The Pooring of America), copyright 1993, Touchstone Edition 1996, Simon & Schuster Inc., ISBN 0-684-83355-7; and

Gus R. Stelzer, The Nightmare of Camelot . . . an Expose of the Free Trade Trojan Horse, copyright 1994, Peanut Butter Publishing, 226 2nd Avenue West, Seattle, WA 98119, ISBN 089716-555-1.

Although the above date back to 1993/94, all the basic arguments presented are current.

Dr. Ravi Batra is a professor of economics at Southern Methodist University in Texas.

Gus R. Stelzer is a retired senior executive of General Motors and a former member of the World Affairs Council and of the Institute for the Americas.



THE SUCKING SOUND AND YOU:

Part 1: What about those declining wages?

Part 2: What about those high tariffs in the 19th century?

Part 3, page 1: What about that deindustrialization?

Part 3, page 2: What about that deindustrialization? cont'd

Part 4: What about that multiplier effect?

Part 5: Compete? Yes, but not with them foreigners!

Part 6: Lower Cost vs. Higher Income



Do you have a bitch against free trade?
E-mail it to: freetrader@aol.com


All arguments against free trade (total unilateral free trade) will be posted in this site and debunked.









Trade worldwide, without borders, taxes, or regulation? Try this website: Freetraders.org
This website offers members a way ("scheme"?) to trade/buy/sell goods via internet and hopefully avoid taxes (rots 'o ruck!). Supposedly an apparatus for traders globally to put the theory of free trade into practice on a wide scale. "Freetraders" charges members an annual fee, 1/3 troy ounce of gold, and then gives unlimited access to the site to post offers, make bids, etc., using a system of "credits" which you'll have to figure out.

For clarification on the meaning of "free trade" -- for this site (FreeTradeForever.com), "free trade" means trade across borders, national boundaries, without any penalty, i.e., with zero tariffs and no quotas or other obstruction based on the existence of the boundary. It does not necessarily mean freedom from any taxes or regulations.

























































































































































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