Posted 4-30-01
According to its constitution, the African Union will be led by a supreme organ made up of heads of state and will also have an executive council on which ministers will sit. Following a model loosely based on the European Union, the African Union will have a parliament, a central bank, a monetary fund and a court of justice..."
The Guardian 4-30-01 - A blueprint drawn up by Germany's chancellor, Gerhard Schrsder, putting forward a radical vision of a federal Europe, last night elicited an appalled response from Eurosceptics.
It envisages a superstate with its own unelected ministers, its own indirectly elected president and a two-chamber parliament with full control over public spending....
It would be headed by a president chosen by one or both of the chambers in a remodelled European parliament. The existing legislature would become the lower house. The council of ministers, the existing forum for national governments, would become an upper house.
National governments would choose representatives to speak for them in the upper house so that national leaders like the British prime minister and the French president would, in effect, become Euro-senators. The European parliament as a whole would have "full control" over the central government's spending....
And the type of believer that each of the rapture represents. Noah, who according to Genesis 6:9 was a just and righteous man, blameless in his (evil) generation and walked in habitual fellowship with God. Noah listened to the voice of God and obeyed. Lot to me represents those Christians who might not be counted worthy to escape the tribulation. Although, he is still counted righteous/just (this representing salvation for believers) he was not walking in habitual fellowship with God, not blameless as Noah. It also speaks to me of what a merciful God we serve. The angels has to seize him & his family in order for them to escape God's wrath. Compare that with Noah, who willingly entered the ark. God is so good. Thought you might enjoy a little lighthearted revelation. God bless you and keep you in his care. Thank you as always for the diligence and hours you put into this work. Grace peace to you. Agape
However, looking up generatio in a Latin dictionary gives the following:
generatim : by kinds, according to classes /generally, in general.
genero : to beget, engender, produce, create.
genero : to engender, beget.
It has been so long since I took Latin I can't remember the proper root word of generatio but it would seem to me the root is generatim and this passage should be translated this kind wont pass by, this class won't pass by, this generally wont pass by, this cohort wont pass by, etc.,
I am not so sure generatio should be translated as generation (40 years). Based on Latin it seems to more likely mean lifespan, or 70 years. Wish I had it in the verbatim translation in Greek, and that I knew Greek!
The Greek came before the Latin translation of it, and the Greek "genea" is race, kind, family, stock, breed in most lexicons. In Mt. 24:34, it is "this generation," one particular generation, i.e., the generation living when the parable is fulfilled, i.e., when Israel grew leaves in 1967.
We have to let the Bible interpret itself. In Mt. 23:36, Jesus told the Pharisees, "All these things shall come upon this generation." They did, in 70 AD.
Psa. 95:10 says, "Forty years long was I grieved with this generation." They wandered 40 years while one generation died off.
Luke 11:29,30 says, "when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet. For as Jonas was a sign unto the Ninevites, so shall also the Son of man be to this generation." Jonah 3:4 says, "Nineveh was an exceeding great city of three days' journey. And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown." This 40 days prefigures the 40 years after the Crucifixion--30 AD to 70 AD. At that time Jerusalem was overthrown.
I think "this generation" means 40 years + another 120 days, just as from the time they refused Jesus as king to the destruction of the temple was 40 years + another 120 days. Agape
In P & C 739 you stated that Sivan 6 is May 28, 2001 and the pre-trib rapture could be at midnight Jerusalem time. What day and hour would this be in the USA if you live in the central time zone? Thanks Thank you
I Corinthians 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: It came to be that , on the surface , this verse does not make sense. These Christians were told to get rid of the leaven in their lives and then told they were already unleavened. What is going on here ?
Here is what came to me. The time period was the Days of Unleavened Bread. Paul is alluding to 3 different Feasts : Passover, Unleavened Bread, and PENTECOST !
"As you ARE unleavened , for (BECAUSE) Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us." This means that these were Christians that were SAVED. Their Spirits had been regenerated--born again ! Therefore they "WERE UNLEAVENED!"
However the mind or soul of these Christians ,like us, still needed CLEANSING OR PURGING. Therefore they were to "purge out the old leaven" , that is to clean up their "souls", the mind , will , and emotions. Why were they to do this ? The answer in the verse is "..SO THAT YOU MAY BE A NEW LUMP !" This is a reference to the Lump of Bread that was offered on the Day of Pentecost ! True , the loaves were baked with leaven, but that was not addressed in this verse---only that they "might be " a NEW LOAF (LUMP). Besides, the baking of tribulations in this life is meant to kill the leaven.
What a verse! All 3 feasts are included in this verse. Pentecost was seen as the CONCLUDING Feast of the Passover SEASON. Since Paul said they needed to take action to PURGE OUT the old leaven it puts a condition on these Christians and us to BECOME A NEW LOAF.
In Leviticus 23 the offering on Pentecost was called a "new" offering.
After reading the above, I went to Bible Browser to see how other translations read. Here are a couple:
I Cor. 5:7 (Darby) says, "Purge out the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, ACCORDING AS YE ARE UNLEAVENED. For also our passover, Christ, has been sacrificed."
I Cor. 5:7 (Young) says, "cleanse out, therefore, the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, ACCORDING AS YE ARE UNLEAVENED, for also our passover for us was sacrificed -- Christ."
Then I looked it up in Green's Interlinear. Under the greek words, he also has "ACCORDING AS YE ARE UNLEAVENED."
Paul was talking to "the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord...So that ye come behind in no gift; WAITING FOR THE COMING (APOKALYPSIN, REVELATION, i.e., at the Rapture) of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that THAT YE MAY BE BLAMELESS IN THE DAY OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST (the Rapture on the 1st day of the Son of Man, Lu. 17:26)" (I Cor. 1:2-8).
In chapter 3, Paul says, "I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ." Carnality is what Paul is trying to remedy. Verse 3 says, "ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?" Personally, how do we get rid of these sins? confess them, as in I John 1:9.
Among their congregation, some were committing gross sin, but they were indifferent to this evil in the church. Therefore, in I Cor. 5:5-11, Paul said "To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in THE DAY OF THE LORD JESUS (the Rapture, Pentecost). Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? PURGE OUT therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, (Green, according) as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our PASSOVER is sacrificed for us: Therefore let us keep THE FEAST (of Unleavened Bread), not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the UNLEAVENED BREAD of sincerity and truth. I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. But now I have written unto you NOT TO KEEP COMPANY, if any man that is called a brother (believer) be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; WITH SUCH AN ONE NO NOT TO EAT."
I do think that there are 3 feasts in view, because the Rapture is likely to be on Pentecost. This instruction seems to be to prepare members of the congregation for the Rapture. It boils down to getting rid of sin on the 7-day Feast of Unleavened Bread to prepare for the Rapture on the following Pentecost. At this time, we should separate ourselves from this type of believing sinner. The time will soon come (maybe Ascension Day) when "He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still" (Rev. 22:11). Agape
Thanks for bringing up the 5 months in Noah's day. After that, "the waters were abated." The main effect of that judgment ended in 5 months. I have penciled in a note at Rev. 9, that the 5 months = the 150 days in Gen. 8:3. Think about Rev. 9:5. That effect of that judgment will last 5 months. Why are both the beginning of the judgment by water and the judgment by fire followed by 5 month periods?
Luke 17:26 says, "as it was in the days (plural) of Noe, so shall it be also in the days (plural) of the Son of man." There are 2 days of the Son of Man, the 2 Raptures. I wondered how the 2nd Rapture would tie in with the days of Noah. It could be just that both times, a group is floated up, or that some ate, drank, bought, sold, planted and built, but there is more. After each group is floated up, there is a 5-month period during which those that "have not the seal of God in their foreheads" are tormented.
In the days of Noah, those outside the Ark would have packed up for a camping trip and headed for high ground. They then had to watch the water creeping up on them. If they built a raft, they would have soon run out of food and died anyway.
Noah believed God in spite of the fact that it had never rained from Adam's day to his. That is blind faith. We are in the same type of situation. We have to believe God in spite of the fact that in this day and age, no one has been floated up (raptured). We just have to have blind faith that what God says he will do, he will do, even if it a new thing on Earth.
In any age, mankind's test is to walk by faith in spite of not being able to see God. In both Noah's day and ours, scoffers abound. However, faith did/will win, and the scoffers were/will be sorry. Noah's day teaches us what we need to know today. If we do what God tells us to do for salvation, we will be saved. Noah being in the Ark is a type of our being in Christ. Those in Christ will be lifted up as Noah was lifted up. Agape
POINTS TO PONDER:
DANIEL'S 70 Weeks: The ratio between 69 and 70 is the same (TO 4 places of decimals) as that between a 'prohetic type' 360 day year (12 months of 30 days a la Rev 11,12) and a solar year exactly expressed.(!?)
'How Long...? (Dan 12 v6,11.) Converting the prophetic periods of '1290 plus 1335 days' to solar years (times 69/70ths)gets us first to the current physical expression of 'the Abomination of Desolation' ie 'The Dome' at near completion in 685 AD, if you measure from the 'taking away of the daily sacrifice in 586 BC., and thence to ......2001 AD to those who are 'blessed by enduring'!
Conversely if you convert the actual solar years between the resurrection (AD 30?) and now, ie 1971 years ,to 'prophetic years' (times 70/69) you have 2000 years.(Two days?)
I'm not a Maths freak but tried the above on feeling that Bible time somehow had significance as it brought into being 'on earth' ('lunar-month type' measurements, revolving round earth's affairs) what was designed 'in heaven' (ie the 'true' perspective whereby we 'earthlings' revolve around the true centre/source/Greater Light - solar time). It's conjecture ,& I don't bring it up when preaching!
For me therefore, the 70th week may already be! (A minority of one!! Dodgy!!) In the week of Dan 9 v27, 'He' could just as easily refer back to Messiah the Prince, and after all who is THE Covenant Maker of The Book? Did HE not 'make an end to sacrifice' ('Sacrifice and offering YOU DON'T WANT ...HE TAKES AWAY THE FIRST to establish the second', says Hebrews 10v 5-9)
'..in the middle of the week 'He does this - the centrepiece of Covenant Time. Before Him stretch the generations of Abraham, 'the father of those who are of faith '(Rom 4v 16), and Matthew tells us (1v1,17) that they number...42(!) from Abe to Christ. After Him come the '42 months'/1260 'days' of the times of the Gentiles/ the Testimony of the Church (the 'two witnesses' - didn't Jesus have 2 witnesses (John 5v31, 8v17) of His Words and His Pure Life which are the fruit of the Spirit in us also - '...the word of God & the testimony of Jesus Christ' as Revelation frequently puts it / and the period which can only end when the last saint has 'finished their testimony'.In this context the times are lifetimes rather than years, tho the total period is from ~2000 BC to ~2000AD.'Your seed shall be strangers/pilgrims in a land not theirs for 400(0) years - after I WILL BRING THEM OUT WITH GREAT POSSESSIONS !!!!!!! Indeed!
I can see that all these prophecies may well have their fulfilment on more than one level, just as we read so much into simple Bible narratives (because it's there !).
I thought I had some godly forefathers but can't match a daughter of Agee! Thanks for your insights. For sheer joy in reading could I recommend The Victor by Patricia StJohn , ISBN 086201-139-6 publ. by Scripture Union.
> > What's a 'Theocratic ' year ?
They are the years during which God's clock for Israel is running. When Israel is out of fellowship, this clock stops. One example is the gap between the 69th and 70th week of years in Dan. 9:27. The Preterists believe that all those things happened in 70 AD, because they do not understand that God's clock for Israel can stop. Gaps make no sense in their heads, but we are not the ones to decide. God decided, and it is unchangeable by us. God's word stands.
That God would stop the clock for Israel in the year of the Crucifixion makes very good sense. What is the most important thing that ever happened to this world? The Crucifixion. Without a substitute sacrifice, we would all be on a slick slide to Hell. What terrible thing happened in that year? the Pharisees, and lots of others, turned down Christ as King. That is reason enough to stop the clock for Israel and start to deal with the Church. After the Bride of Christ is raptured, the clock will again start for Israel. The 70th week of Daniel is the 5th cycle of discipline of Lev. 26:27,28. It says, "if ye will not for all this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto me; Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins." A time in Rev. 12:14 is a year (v. 6). The "seven times equal the seven years of the Tribulation.
I Kings 6:1 says, "it came to pass in the FOUR HUNDRED AND EIGHTIETH YEAR after the children of Israel were come out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon's reign over Israel, in the month Zif (Iyar), which is the second month, that he began to build the house of the LORD."THESE 480 YEARS ARE THEOCRATIC YEARS, when God's clock for Israel is running. The 114 years of the Servitudes are omitted. The Period of the Judges was 594 literal years, but the 114 years of the Servitudes are gaps during which the clock was stopped (594 - 114 = 480).
Therefore, God did put gaps in his plans. There were 7 gaps in the Period of the Judges. The gaps were (1) 8 years, (2) 18 years, (3) 20 years, (4) 7 years, (5) 3 years, (6) 18 years and (7) 40 years.
PERIOD OF THE JUDGES
2573 AH Beginning 1st servitude under Chushan after 13 years (Jg 3:8) (Joshua-Judges chasm: there are 13 years between the end of the book of Joshua and the beginning of Judges. Joshua and the elders ruled 13 years.)
2581 AH Rest by Othniel after 8 YEARS SERVITUDE under Chushan-rishathaim (Jg 3:8)
2621 AH 2nd servitude under Eglon after 40 years of rest by Othniel (Jg 3:11)
2639 AH Rest by Ehud after 18 YEARS SERVITUDE under Eglon (Jg 3:14)
2719 AH 3rd servitude under Jabin after 80 years of rest by Ehud (Jg 3:30)
2739 AH Rest by Barak after 20 YEARS SERVITUDE under Jabin
Judgeship of Shamgar (Jg 3:31) included in 20 years of 3rd servitude under Jabin (Jg 5:6,7)
2779 AH 4th servitude under Midian after 40-year rest by Barak (Jg 5:31)
2786 AH Rest by Gideon after 7 YEARS SERVITUDE under Midian (Jg 6:1)
2826 AH Usurpation by Abimelech after 40-year rest by Gideon (Jg 8:28)
2829 AH Judgeship of Tola after 3 YEARS SERVITUDE by Abimelech (Jg 9:22)
2852 AH Judgeship of Jair after 23-year Judgeship of Tola (Jg 10:2)
2874 AH 5th servitude under Ammon after 22-year judgeship of Jair (Jg 10:3)
2892 AH Judgeship of Jephthah after 18 YEARS SERVITUDE under Ammon (Jg 10:8)
2898 AH Judgeship of Ibzan after 6-year Judgeship of Jephthah (Jg 12:7,8)
2905 AH Judgeship of Elon after 7-year Judgeship of Ibzan (Jg 12:9)
2915 AH Judgeship of Abdon after 10-year Judgeship of Elon (Jg 12:11)
2923 AH 6th servitude under Philistines after 8-year Judgeship of Abdon (Jg 12:14)
(Judgeship of Samson 20 years [Jg 16:31] incl. in 40 YEARS SERVITUDE) (Jg 15:20)
2963 AH Judgeship of Eli after 40-year servitude under Philistines (Jg 15:20)
3003 AH Judgeship of Samuel after 40-year Judgeship of Eli (I Sam 4:18).
3023 AH End of the period of the Judges
Since there were 7 gaps in the Period of the Judges, it does not seem so strange that there is a gap after the 69th week of years and before the final week of years (7 years) in Dan. 9:27. It is clear that God's clock for Israel stops at times. It stopped in 30 AD, when Jesus was refused as King. In the meantime, God has been mainly dealing with the Church. After the church is caught up in the Pre-Trib Rapture, God will finish the 70th week of Daniel.
In the May 2001 copy of Midnight Call, Thomas Ice quotes Preterist Gary DeMar, "If we can find no gaps in the sequence of years in these examples, then how can a single exception be made with the 'seventy weeks' in Daniel 9:24-27." Thomas Ice tells how Harold Hoehner found gaps during which the Jews did not keep the Sabbatical Year. That is why they went into captivity for 70 years. Hoehner's chart lists 70 x 7 Sabbatical Years Violated (Lev. 26:34-35, 43) on the left of the 70 year Captivity and the 70 x 7 Sabbatical Years Remaining (Dan. 9:24-27) on the right. At the bottom, he has 490 years before Daniel's day and 490 after Daniel's day.
I found the 7 other gaps when I was working on my Bible Chronology, just in the 480 years of I Kings 6:1. That should lay Preterist Gary DeMar's statement to rest.
> > In the week of Dan 9 v27, 'He' could just as easily refer back to Messiah the Prince
I don't see how. Verses 26 and 27 say, "after threescore and two weeks shall MESSIAH be cut off (karath, killed), but not for himself: and the PEOPLE (Romans) of THE PRINCE THAT SHALL COME shall destroy the city and the sanctuary (fulfilled in 70 AD); and THE END thereof (end of the Romans) SHALL (in the future) be with a flood (still future today), and unto the end of the war (Gog's army attacking Israel on the Day of God's Wrath) desolations are determined. And HE (THE PRINCE THAT SHALL COME) SHALL ( in the future) confirm the covenant with many for one week (of years, 7 years): and in the midst of the week HE (THE PRINCE THAT SHALL COME) SHALL CAUSE THE SACRIFICE AND THE OBLATION TO CEASE, and for the overspreading of abominations (idols) HE (THE PRINCE THAT SHALL COME) shall make it (the temple) desolate, even until the consummation (of this Age of the Church), and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate" (lit., desolator, THE PRINCE THAT SHALL COME). That determined is the impact of the binary asteroid of Rev. 8:8,10.
When the asteroid destroys Babylon (Rev. 18:21) and all but 1/6th of Gog's army (Eze. 39:2), it is woe to THE PRINCE THAT SHALL COME. Zech. 11:17 shows what will happen to this "prince." It says, "Woe to the IDOL SHEPHERD (False Prophet, Rev. 13:11-18) that leaveth the flock! THE SWORD (Sword of the Lord) shall be upon his arm, and upon his right eye: his arm shall be clean dried up, and his right eye shall be utterly darkened."
Jer. 12:12 says, "The spoilers are come upon all high places through the wilderness: for the SWORD OF THE LORD shall devour from the one end of the land even to the other end of the land: no flesh shall have peace."
The Messiah is not this prince that shall come in the future. The Messiah's people did not destroy Jerusalem and the temple, the Roman army under Titus did. Messiah's people do not place the abomination of desolation at the temple, the False Prophet does. That Satan-possessed man of sin "opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God" (II Thess. 2:4).
> > 'How Long...? (Dan 12 v6,11.) Converting the prophetic periods of '1290 plus 1335 days' to solar years (times 69/70ths)gets us first to the current physical expression of 'the Abomination of Desolation' ie 'The Dome' at near completion in 685 AD, if you measure from the 'taking away of the daily sacrifice in 586 BC., and thence to ......2001 AD to those who are 'blessed by enduring'!
I think three periods start when the abomination of desolation (idol) is placed at the temple Mid-Trib, Daniel 12's 1260 days, 1290 days, and 1335 days. On the 1335th day, Daniel will literally stand in his own lot of ground in Israel. I think the Judgment of the Nations will take place after the 1260 days. The sheep go into the Millennium. The goats will be done away with (Mt. 25:41). I think the extra 30 days are for mourning the dead. Nu. 20:29 says, "when all the congregation saw that Aaron was dead, they mourned for Aaron thirty days, even all the house of Israel."
Martin Anstey found an 82-year mistake in the era of the Persian kings. 536 - 82 = 454 BC. The 69 weeks of years of Dan. 9:25 is 483 years. 483 - 454 + 1 (no zero yr) = 30 AD, when the Messiah was killed. The clock for Israel stopped in 30 AD. The 70th week of Daniel will start when the covenant is confirmed. It seems soon. Thanks for recommending the book. Agape
Right then I glanced down to the corner of my computer screen to check today's date which you get by placing the cursor over the current time which is displayed there. Well, my glance landed on the time readout just as the last digit in the time moved from a 7 to an 8 and then I realized what time it just was at that instant. It was 5:28! As in May 28... I just love stuff like that! I thank God for you and for your continued diligence. I so appreciate all your hard work. Sincerely
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