Posted 10-15-01
NOW THAT TOM BROKAW OF NBC NIGHTLY NEWS OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCED THAT THE EVENTS OF SEPTEMBER 11 HAD PROPELLED THE WORLD INTO THE NEW WORLD ORDER, WE ARE ASSURED EVENTS WILL SOON PRODUCE ANTICHRISTIn the foreground, displayed big and bold and in all capitols were the words: NEW WORLD ORDER...
This proclamation was made on an 11th, thus continuing the unbroken string of significant events related to this attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon containing bold signatures of '11' and multiples of eleven, or occult additions to get the number '11'.
In your quote of this passage you say twice that when it says "I will judge thee" that it is referring to the Judgment seat of Christ. Since this verse is addressed to Israel, ("thus saith the Lord God unto the land of Israel"), wouldn't this judgment have to be the Judgment of the Nations, the judgment of all those that live through the wrath of God. Is it not true that although Israel will all be saved, that they will go through the time of wrath supernaturally protected?
Is it not also true that the Judgment Seat of Christ is for the whole church, (the Bride and the Trib. Saints who have a heavenly inheritance), in the New Jerusalem on the Day of the Lord...while Israel, who have an earthly inheritance will remain on the earth on the Day of the Lord? So since this passage is clearly addressed to "the land of Israel," I don't see how that phrase, "I will Judge thee," could refer to the Judgment Seat of Christ. What are your thoughts? Your Brother in Jesus
The nations will attack Israel, so judgment also falls on the other nations.
As I understand it, the Judgment Seat of Christ takes place in Heaven before Christ returns. It is on the Feast of Trumpets, the first day of the millennial Day of the Lord, the day Christ will receive his kingdom. It is the Day of God's Wrath. Like Solomon, Christ will purge his kingdom right away. That is 7 months before the Second Advent (Eze. 39:12,13). The seven trumpet judgments hit Earth 7 months before Christ returns to Earth.
I think the Judgment of the Nations takes place on Earth after Christ returns. It is after the full 7 years are fulfilled. No trumpet judgments hit Earth that day. The sheep are divided from the goats, who are cast in everlasting fire.
Rev. 11:17,18 shows that all the saints will be rewarded at the same time that the unbelievers on Earth are rewarded for their unbelief. Therefore, that is the Judgment Seat of Christ. II Cor. 5:10 says, "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad." Rev. 11:17,18 says, "Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. "
Zech. 14 tells us of the 1st day of the millennial Day of the Lord. "Behold, the DAY OF THE LORD COMETH, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. For I will gather ALL NATIONS against Jerusalem to battle...Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle." That is referring to Joshua's Long Day, for this is Jesus/Joshua's Long Day. More fell that day from the falling rocks than the Israelites killed.
Joshua 10:11 says, "as they fled from before Israel, and were in the going down to Bethhoron, that the LORD cast down great stones from heaven upon them unto Azekah, and they died: they were more which died with hailstones than they whom the children of Israel slew with the sword." In Jesus' Long Day, the asteroids fall. This is the day "the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof" (Isa. 24:1).
This is the same time Eze. 7 is talking about. The day the 6th seal is broken is the end of this Age of the Church. At that time, "the day of trouble is near" (v. 7). It begins at 6 PM, when the "ONLY EVIL, behold is come" (v. 5). Verse 12 says, "The time is come, the day draweth near: let not the buyer rejoice, nor the seller mourn: for wrath is upon all the multitude thereof." Agape
It seems reasonable that it might include the Arab countries. However, I think it will turn out to be more than that. Since this is at the beginning of the Tribulation, the Beast of Rev. 13:2-10 will begin to rule. Power will be given "him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations" (Rev. 13:7). They "worshipped the beast" (Rev. 13:3). I think he will be the Tribulation Pope, head of both the UN (or OWG) and the UR (United Religions). Therefore, I expect the covenant to be confirmed by the one who will end up being the False Prophet and the UN. It seems that Arafat will get his Palestinian State and will also confirm the covenant. Israel may get permission to build a temple beside the Dome of the Rock. Moses and Elijah will probably instruct them on that.
We know they will part the land. Joe 3:2 says, "I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and PARTED MY LAND." I keep wondering what Dan. 5:28 means: "PERES; Thy kingdom is divided." That came at the end of Babylon II. Babylon I was the Tower of Babel. Babylon III is the False Prophet's, the Babylon of Rev. 18. It is strange that this man is in the forefront of the push for confirming a covenant that will establish a Palestinian State. Shalom and Agape
This is why I was looking at Hannukah last year, as you may remember. I have great interest in your analysis of this Kislev 25, maybe this year synchronises with Kislev 25 for Redemption. God Bless You and Ed
Josephus said that his feast is also called the Feast of Lights (Ant. XII. 7.7). Pure oil for the candlestick that should have lasted one day lasted for eight days. Eight means new beginning, which the Rapture will be for those wise virgins that have enough oil in their vessels with their lamps (Mt. 25:1f). The Philadelphian church is represented by a candlestick in Rev. 1:20, so the oil, lamps, and candlestick tie in with Hanukkah. The "open door" is set before the church of Philadelphia (Rev. 3:8).
Haggai (meaning feast) 2:15f says, "now, I pray you, consider from this day (Kislev 24) and UPWARD, from before a stone was laid upon a stone in the temple of the LORD...Consider now from this day and UPWARD, from the four and twentieth day of the ninth month (Kislev 24, Hanukkah Eve), even from the day that the foundation (12 elders, 12 apostles, Rev. 21:14) of the LORD's temple was laid (Kislev 25), consider it. Is the seed (we are wheat) yet in the barn (Heaven, Mt. 13:30)? yea, as yet the vine (Christ, Jn.15:5), and the fig tree (Israel, Joel 1:6,7, i.e., Old Testament saints), and the pomegranate (Church saints, Song 4:3), and the olive tree (Tribulation saints, Psa. 128:3), hath not brought forth: from THIS DAY will I BLESS YOU (OT and Church saints as the Pre-Trib Rapture takes place, Tribulation saints a little later).
"And AGAIN the word of the LORD came unto Haggai in the four and twentieth day of the month, saying, Speak to Zerubbabel (meaning scattered in Babylon), governor of Judah, saying, I will shake the heavens and the earth (Day of God's Wrath, Eze. 38:20, first day of the Millennium); And I will overthrow the throne of kingdoms (king over the nations, the UN or OWG), and I will destroy the strength of the kingdoms of the heathen; and I will overthrow the chariots, and those that ride in them; and the horses and their riders (the Beast and False Prophet, Rev. 6) shall come down, every one by the sword of his brother. In THAT DAY (1st day of the Millennium), saith the LORD of hosts, will I TAKE THEE (the Tribulation saints at the Pre-Wrath Rapture), O Zerubbabel (meaning SCATTERED IN BABYLON), my servant, the son of Shealtiel (meaning I have asked from God), saith the LORD, and will make thee as a signet: for I have CHOSEN thee, saith the LORD of hosts."
Pre-Trib Rapture. Rev. 4:1: "behold, a door was opened in HEAVEN: and the FIRST VOICE which I heard (Christ, Rev. 1:10) was as it were of a TRUMPET (first 'trump of God,' I Thess. 4:16) talking with me; which SAID, COME UP HITHER."
Pre-Wrath Rapture. Rev. 18:4: " I heard ANOTHER VOICE FROM HEAVEN, SAYING, COME out of her (World Church at Babylon), my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues." This is the "last trump," (I Cor. 15:51,52). Agape
* Were the hijackers happily married men with wives and children. It would hardly seem so. Were they men who preferred men??
* When I hear about the Christians in Afghanistan who are awaiting trial for spreading the Gospel, I think of Matthew 10: 14-15: "And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, that for that city".
Let us comfort each other, knowing the Lord Jesus is coming soon. I Thessalonians 4:16-18
'Turn your eyes upon Jesus. Look full in His Wonderful Face and the things of earth will grow strangely dim in the Light of His Glory and Grace.
I think Moses will be sent to Earth for 1260 days to prove that statement right. They still won't listen. It's sad.
I saw an account last night of how one Muslim became a Christian. He thought he was supposed to be saved by his works. Knowing that he wouldn't make it that way, he looked into Christianity that offered forgiveness for things he had done. He accepted Christ. I wish more would look into Christianity to see what it really is all about. Agape
I don't know how to explain my feelings about our LORD and my desire to be part of the Bride group. The idea that maybe I won't be upsets me beyond words. Your words are a comfort and a blessing from God. Its like a comforting kiss or a Strong Hug from our heavenly Father. I know that Salvation is not according to works, but being part of the Bride Group is based on works. I pray we are all worthy!
It is just after Christ cleanses the temple of the money changers in the temple, that the fig tree is cursed. The temple, in the 3rd Day, becomes the body of the believer ...and that is a clear picture, I believe, of the mind of christ renewing the "carnal mind" of man . They were selling "doves"...and the dove is symbolic of the shulamite, the Bride. After He cleanses the temple...He curses the "tree".
On Nisan 10 in 30 AD, the lambs to be sacrificed were chosen. It was on that day that Jesus cursed the fig tree that had no fruit. That cursing was fulfilled in 70 AD, when Jerusalem and the temple were burned. That was one generation. In Mt. 23:36, Jesus told the Pharisees, "Verily (Amen, so be it) I say unto you, All these things shall come upon THIS GENERATION." They did, in 70 AD.
Zeph. 2:1-5 says, "Gather yourselves together, yea, gather together (fulfilled in 1948), O nation not desired (Israel); BEFORE the decree bring forth, BEFORE the day pass as the chaff, BEFORE the fierce anger of the LORD come upon you, BEFORE the day of the LORD's anger come upon you. Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid (the Pre-Wrath Rapture) in the day of the LORD's anger (probably Sept. 13, 2007). For Gaza shall be forsaken, and Ashkelon a desolation: they shall drive out Ashdod at the noon day (the asteroid of Rev. 8:8 will impact the Mediterranean Sea at noon), and Ekron shall be rooted up. Woe unto the inhabitants of the sea coast, the nation of the Cherethites! the word of the LORD is against you; O Canaan, the land of the Philistines, I will even destroy thee, that there shall be no inhabitant."
Eze. 38:8 says, "in the latter years (of this age) thou shalt come into THE LAND THAT IS BROUGHT BACK from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, AGAINST THE MOUNTAINS OF ISRAEL, which have been always waste: but IT IS BROUGHT FORTH OUT OF THE NATIONS, and they shall dwell safely all of them." This was fulfilled in 1948. It is before Gog's army will attack Israel on the last day of this age.
Joel 1:6,7 shows that Israel is called a fig tree. It says, "a nation is come up upon MY LAND, strong, and without number, whose teeth are the teeth of a lion, and he hath the cheek teeth of a great lion. He hath laid my vine waste, and barked MY FIG TREE: he hath made it clean bare, and cast it away; the branches thereof are made white."
Hos. 9:10 says, "I found Israel like grapes in the wilderness; I SAW YOUR FATHERS AS THE FIRSTRIPE IN THE FIG TREE AT HER FIRST TIME: but they went to Baalpeor, and separated themselves unto that shame; and their abominations were according as they loved." Then Israel has a second time.
Jer. 24: 5,6 says, "Thus saith the LORD, the God of Israel; LIKE THESE GOOD FIGS, so will I acknowledge them that are carried away captive of JUDAH, whom I have sent out of this place into the land of the Chaldeans for their good. For I will set mine eyes upon them for good, and I will bring them again to this land: and I will build them, and not pull them down; and I will plant them, and not pluck them up."
Jer. 29:17-19 says, "Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Behold, I will send upon them the sword, the famine, and the pestilence, and WILL MAKE THEM LIKE VILE FIGS, that cannot be eaten, they are so evil. And I will persecute them with the sword, with the famine, and with the pestilence, and will deliver them to be removed to all the kingdoms of the earth, to be a curse, and an astonishment, and an hissing, and a reproach, among all the nations whither I have driven them: Because they have not hearkened to my words, saith the LORD."
> > the 144,000 are the nucleus of the new Israel, from every tribe) and will "produce" again.
The 144,000 are "virgins, " "firstfruits unto God," and are caught up to Heaven in the Pre-Wrath Rapture. They "are without fault before the throne of God" (Rev. 14:4,5).
On Earth, all Israel will be saved in a day (Isa. 66:8), after the Pre-Trib Rapture on the Day of God's Wrath. Zech. 13:8,9 says, "it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. And I WILL BRING THE THIRD PART THROUGH THE FIRE, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and THEY SHALL SAY, THE LORD IS MY GOD." Every single promise God made to Israel will literally come true for Israel.
> > After He cleanses the temple....He curses the "tree"
Eze. 45:18 says, "Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the first month, in the first day of the month (Nisan 1, first day of the Jewish Regnal and Sacred Year, day of the Second Advent), thou shalt take a young bullock without blemish, and CLEANSE THE SANCTUARY." Psa. 25:13 says, "His soul shall dwell at ease; and HIS SEED SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH." Agape
> > and when the New Covenant has been complete, the law written on our hearts and minds....that "curse" will have been fulfilled.
Zech. 5:1-4 is about THE CURSE which is probably a binary asteroid. It is the flying rolling thing that is twice as long as wide. It "goeth forth (orbits) over the face of the whole earth." I think the 2 stone tablets with the 10 commandments on them prefigured the 2 stones of Rev. 8:8,10 that will hit Earth on the Day of God's Wrath. Zech. 5:3,4 says, "This is the curse that goeth forth over the face of