Posted 1-4-02
> > It took place over 6 days. 16th to 22nd of July our time, which is the 5th mth. the Biblical calendar of God's year 5995. Lev 26:5. 8/5/5995 9th Av
Israelites should be able to see the importance of this huge explosive event happening on Av 9. Many terrible things have happened to them on Av 9 and 10. God picked a good date to try to get their attention.
Concerning Herod's temple, Josephus said that fires were set in the temple area on Av 9 and burned on into the temple proper on Av 10. Concerning the burning of Solomon's temple, Jer. 51:12,13 says, "in the fifth month (Av), in the tenth day of the month, which was the nineteenth year of Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon, came Nebuzaradan, captain of the guard, which served the king of Babylon, into Jerusalem, And burned the house of the LORD."
Isa. 22:16-19 says, "What hast thou here (Babylon)? and whom hast thou here (the Satan-possessed False Prophet), that thou hast hewed thee out a sepulchre here (on Earth), as he (Satan) that heweth him out a sepulchre on high, and that graveth an habitation for himself in a rock (the asteroid Wormwood, Rev. 8:11)? Behold, the LORD will carry thee away with a mighty captivity, and will surely cover thee. He will surely violently turn and TOSS THEE LIKE A BALL INTO A LARGE COUNTRY (Iraq): there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house. And I will drive thee from thy station, and from thy state shall he pull thee down."
This seems to be a binary asteroid. Zech. 5:1-4 says, "I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked (in the sky, as Ezekiel did in Eze. 1:1), and behold a flying roll (rolling thing). And he said unto me, What seest thou? And I answered, I see a flying roll; the length thereof is twenty cubits, and the breadth thereof ten cubits (it is twice as long as wide). Then said he unto me, THIS IS THE CURSE THAT GOETH FORTH (orbits) OVER THE FACE OF THE WHOLE EARTH: for every one that stealeth shall be cut off as on this side according to it (as one stone tablet with commandments typified); and every one that sweareth shall be cut off as on that side according to it (i.e., the other stone tablet). I will bring it (the asteroid) forth, saith the LORD of hosts (Christ, Isa. 44:6), and it shall enter into the house of the thief (the False Prophet), and into the house of him that sweareth falsely by my name (the Beast, the Tribulation Pope, who claims infallibility): and it shall remain in the midst of his house, and shall consume it with the timber thereof and the stones thereof."
Rev. 8:8,10 tell us about these two asteroids after they break apart, probably at the Roche Limit 11,000 miles out. One as large as a mountain impacts the Mediterranean Sea at noon (Zeph. 2:4,5). The other piece wipes out Babylon in Iraq at the same time. Jer 50:46 says, "At the noise of the taking of Babylon THE EARTH IS MOVED, and the cry is heard among the nations."
The "great star (aster, star, asteroid, meteor) from heaven, burning as it were a lamp" (Rev. 8:10) destroys Babylon. Rev. 18:21 describes this asteroid piece: "a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all."
The sea hit by the mountain sized asteroid is the Mediterranean. The time is noon on the 1st day of the millennial Day of the Lord. There are some interesting verses showing what will happen at noon on that Day of God's Wrath.
The eastern border of Israel is the great sea, the Mediterranean. Eze. 11:10-12 says, "Ye shall fall by the sword; I WILL JUDGE YOU IN THE BORDER OF ISRAEL; and ye shall know that I am the LORD. This city shall not be your caldron, neither shall ye be the flesh in the midst thereof; but I WILL JUDGE YOU IN THE BORDER OF ISRAEL: And ye shall know that I am the LORD."
Zeph. 2:1-7 says, "Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the LORD'S ANGER. (the Pre-Wrath Rapture takes place just before the asteroid hits.) For GAZA shall be forsaken, and Ashkelon a desolation: they shall drive out Ashdod at the NOON day, and Ekron shall be rooted up. Woe unto the inhabitants of the SEA COAST, the nation of the Cherethites (meaning who cuts, tears away and exterminates)! the word of the LORD is against you; O Canaan (possessor), the land of the Philistines (those that dwell in villages), I will even destroy thee, that there shall be no inhabitant. And THE SEA COAST shall be dwellings and cottages for shepherds, and folds for flocks. And THE COAST shall be for the remnant of the house of Judah."
Eze. 25:15-17 says, "Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because the Philistines (those that dwell in villages) have dealt by revenge, and have taken vengeance with a despiteful heart, to destroy it for the old hatred (Ishmael vs. Isaac); Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will stretch out mine hand upon the Philistines, and I will cut off the Cherethims, and destroy the remnant of the sea coast. And I WILL EXECUTE GREAT VENGEANCE UPON THEM WITH FURIOUS REBUKES; and they shall know that I am the LORD."
Job 23:20 says, "When he (the wicked, i.e., the False Prophet) is about to fill his belly, God shall cast the fury of HIS WRATH upon him, and shall rain it upon him while he is eating" (i.e., noon).
Amos 8:9,10 says, "it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord GOD, that I will cause the sun to go down at NOON, and I will darken the earth in the clear day: And I will turn your feasts (it is the Feast of Trumpets, Joel 2:1-3) into mourning."
Psa. 91:6 speaks of "the destruction that wasteth at NOONDAY."
Zech. 9:4,5 says, "the LORD will cast her (Tyrus, rock) out, and he will smite her power in the sea; and she shall be devoured with fire. Ashkelon shall see it, and fear; Gaza also shall see it, and be very sorrowful, and Ekron; for her expectation shall be ashamed; and THE KING SHALL PERISH FROM GAZA, and Ashkelon shall not be inhabited."
> > I believe that very nearly six thousand years, of that seven thousand year period, has elapsed. (You and I differ on some minor points, I believe, concerning the timing of the Russian invasion and the length of Jacob's travail.)
I agree with a 7000-year test of mankind after he became mortal and knew both good and evil. I also believe that the 7-year test that will come upon the whole world (Rev. 3:10) is inserted into the 7000-year timeline. Why? so it could be left out if Israel turned to God in a big way. Those 7 years are not only the 70th week of Daniel, but are the "ends (plural) of the ages" (I Cor. 10:11, LITV).
On the Day of God's Wrath, the 1st day of the millennial Day of the Lord, Gog's army will attack Israel. God will step in and fight for Israel (Zech. 14:3). Eze. 38:18 says, "it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that MY FURY shall come in my face." Verses 19 and 20 tell what will happen on the Day of God's Wrath. It says, "For in my jealousy and in the fire of MY WRATH have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel; So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence (paniym, face, i.e., the Sign of the Son of Man (Mt. 24:30; Rev. 6:14f), and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground."
Nahum 1:5,6 says, "The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein. Who can stand before HIS INDIGNATION? and who can abide in the fierceness of HIS ANGER? HIS FURY is poured out like fire, and THE ROCKS (asteroids) ARE THROWN DOWN BY HIM." Agape
This seems to be a description of the TURBINS (crowns) that these terrorists wear . Most all of them have long hair.
Also, it interesting that the scriptures state that the man is not to have his head covered. This seems to be a demonic terrorist group that can sting as scorpions. That is, they are not a strong army that invades but have the power to inflict 'stings' on humanity.
The context of Revelation has this in chapter 9 as part of the Trumpet plagues that would put this happening in the Day of the Lord...AFTER the church is Raptured. Perhaps we have seen the first glimpse of what is going to happen during that period.
Tires were also worn by Israelites. Isa. 3:18 says, "In that day the Lord will take away the bravery of their tinkling ornaments about their feet, and their cauls, and THEIR ROUND TIRES LIKE THE MOON." Eze. 24:23 says, "YOUR TIRES SHALL BE UPON YOUR HEADS, and your shoes upon your feet: ye shall not mourn nor weep; but ye shall pine away for your iniquities, and mourn one toward another." Agape
Rev. 12:5,6 speaks of Israel at Mid-Trib. It says, "she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place (Petra) prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days."
The man child is thought to be Christ, but the gender surely would have been masculine instead of neuter. The time is Mid-Trib, which doesn't correlate with Christ's Ascension Day. There are no members of the Body of Christ that ascend Mid-Trib that I know of but Moses and Elijah. Christ will rule with a rod of iron, but members of the Body of Christ will too. Rev. 2:26,27 says of overcomers, "he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father."
I have an idea that Moses and Elijah are the two that will be seated on either side of Christ in Heaven. Remember, when in Mark 10:35-40, James and John wanted to sit on the right hand and left hand of Christ in glory, Jesus refused. In v. 40, he said, "to sit on my right hand and on my left hand is not mine to give; but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared." Both Moses and Elijah appeared with Christ at the Transfiguration.
There is one lesson the Jews learned at Babylon and never forgot was to leave Idols alone. Therefore Jews will take the abomination of desolation as a sign to run (Mt. 24:15). As you know, many will go to Petra, "into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent" (Rev. 12:14). This is the latter 3.5 years of the Tribulation, the Great Tribulation of Mt. 24:21,22. It is the part that is to be shortened.
Mt. 24:15,16-22 says, "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains... But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: For then shall be GREAT TRIBULATION, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except THOSE DAYS SHOULD BE SHORTENED, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake THOSE DAYS SHALL BE SHORTENED."
Just before the asteroids impact Earth at noon on the 1st day of the millennial Day of the Lord, in the night or morning, the Pre-Wrath Rapture will take up all those that have accepted Christ, including the believers in Petra.
> > The pre-wrath rapture would have taken place seven months prior according to your timeline. Are they taken or left behind for some reason?
I believe the 2nd Rapture will be seven months prior to the Second Advent (Eze. 39:12,13). I don't think we have any believers left behind at that "last trump." Only unbelievers will be on Earth at that point. However, all Israel will be saved in a day that day (Isa. 66:8). They will be the remnant that will live on into the Millennium on Earth.
We have the constant 1260-day first half of the 70th week of Dan. 9:17 that we call the Tribulation. The last part of the Great Tribulation, the 2nd half, before being shortened is 1260 days (Dan. 12:7). Verses 11 and 12 bring up 1290 and 1335 day periods that are also counted from Mid-Trib, when the False Prophet places the idol in the temple.
Maybe, since the 1260 days that date from Mid-Trib are shortened, the 1290 and 1335 day periods would also be shortened by the same amount. Both include the 1260 days in their count. See what you think. Agape
In Lev 26:27,28, Israel was told, "if ye will not for all this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto me; Then I WILL WALK CONTRARY UNTO YOU ALSO IN FURY; and I, even I, WILL CHASTISE YOU SEVEN TIMES FOR YOUR SINS." In Daniel 12:7, "time, times, and an half" equal 3.5 years, or 1260 days, just as it does in Rev. 12:6,14. Therefore "SEVEN TIMES' EQUAL SEVEN YEARS. In Dan. 9:27, we find out that the False Prophet "SHALL CONFIRM (GABAR, STRENGTHEN) THE COVENANT WITH MANY FOR ONE WEEK (SEVEN YEARS); AND IN THE MIDST OF THE WEEK HE (THE FALSE PROPHET) SHALL CAUSE THE SACRIFICE AND THE OBLATION TO CEASE (he sits in the temple "shewing himself that he is God," II Thess. 2:4).
> > It will not last 7 years at all....the bible says so..
Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Do you think that the Lord will shorten the hours of each day? I do not believe so, as there is no benefit for Israel... BUT, if the last days of the great tribulation are shortened literally, it will save the Jews from a nuclear holocost....I believe that the days will be shortened by about a year or a little more....
> > Do you think that the Lord will shorten the hours of each day? I do not believe so, as there is no benefit for Israel
I don't think the hours in a day are shortened. The number of days is shortened.
As presented to us, the 70th week (shabua, seven, i.e., 7 years) of Daniel will consist of a 1260-day Tribulation (ruled by the Beast of Rev. 13:2-10). Immediately following this will be another 1260-day Great Tribulation (ruled by the Satan-possessed False Prophet of Rev. 13:11-18).
Dan. 7:23-26 says, "The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom (Rome) upon earth, which shall be diverse (Ecclesiastic Rome rather than Imperial) from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth (head up the united nations), and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces (10 regions). And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and ANOTHER (the False Prophet) shall rise after them (10 kings come to power as the Tribulation starts); and he (False Prophet, who will come to full power as the Great Tribulation starts) shall be diverse (be another, a different man) from the first (the Beast, Trib. Pope), and he (the False Prophet) shall subdue three kings. And he shall speak great words against the most High (Christ, Isa. 44:6), and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until A TIME AND TIMES AND THE DIVIDING OF TIME (3.5 YEARS). But the judgment (Judgment Seat of Christ) shall sit ('court is convened," NAB, in Heaven), and they shall take away his (the False Prophet's) dominion (sholtan, empire), to consume and to destroy it unto THE END."
Dan. 7:26 (YLT) "the Judge (Christ) is seated, and its (the False Prophet's) dominion they cause to pass away, to cut off, and to destroy--unto the end."
The "end" of what? Satan is in the False Prophet from Mid-Trib until the day the 2nd 1260-day Great Tribulation is shortened. At that time the False Prophet is deposed, and Satan operates on his own as the "eighth" (Rev. 17:11) until he is chained at the end of Armageddon.
Dan. 7:27 (KJV) says, "the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven (i.e., on Earth), shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High (Christ, Isa. 44:6), whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him."
Wouldn't Daniel be among these recipients of the earthly kingdom? When is Daniel to stand in his own lot on Earth? on the 1335th day, counted from Mid-Trib (Dan. 12:12,13). Hmmm. Since the 1260 days that get shortened is part of the 1290 and 1335 day periods, are the 1290 and 1335 days also shortened? If Dan. 8:13,14's 2300 days is the shortened Tribulation, each of the 1290 and 1335 day periods would be shortened by 220 days. More food for thought. Agape
Could you run it out to 5791-5798, the last possible date for rapture/ second coming, assuming Luke 21:32 refers to a lifespan and not a generation? I think at that point the list will be exhaustive! Thanks as always!
Pentecost (Sivan 6) to Trumpets (Tishri 1) 7 years later on the Jewish Calendar, by Jewish inclusive reckoning, because it is a block of days rather than continuous time, which would not be counted by inclusive reckoning.
5761 (05-28-2001) - 5768 (09-13-2007) = 2300 days - leap year
5762 (05-17-2002) - 5769 (09-03-2008) = 2329 days
5763 (04-03-2003) - 5770 (09-19-2009) = 2362 days
5764 (05-26-2004) - 5771 (09-09-2010) = 2298 days
5765 (04-10-2005) - 5772 (09-29-2011) = 2364 days
5766 (06-02-2006) - 5773 (09-17-2012) = 2300 days - not LY
5767 (05-23-2007) - 5774 (09-05-2013) = 2298 days
5768 (06-09-2008) - 5775 (09-25-2014) = 2300 days - not LY
5769 (05 29-2009) - 5776 (09-14-2015) = 2300 days - leap year
5770 (05-19-2010) - 5777 (10-03-2016) = 2330 days
5771 (06-08-2011) - 5778 (09-21-2017) = 2298 days
5772 (05-27-2012) - 5779 (09-10-2018) = 2298 days
5773 (05-15-2013) - 5780 (09-30-2019) = 2330 days
5774 (05-30-2014) - 5781 (19-09-2020) = 2305 days
5775 (05-24-2015) - 5782 (09-07-2021) = 2299 days
5776 (06-12-2016) - 5783 (09-26-2022) = 2298 days
5777 (05-31-2017) - 5784 (09-16-2023) = 2300 days - not LY
5778 (05-20-2018) - 5785 (10-03-2024) = 2329 days
5779 (06-09-2019) - 5786 (09-23-2025) = 2299 days
5780 (05-29-2020) - 5787 (09-12-2026) = 2298 days
5781 (05-17-2021) - 5788 (10-02-2027) = 2330 days
5782 (06-05-2022) - 5789 (09-21-2028) = 2301 days
5783 (05-26-2023) - 5790 (09-10-2029) = 2300 days - not LY
5784 (06-12-2024) - 5791 (09-28-2030) = 2300 days - leap year
5785 (06-02-2025) - 5792 (09-18-2031) = 2300 days - not LY
5786 (05-22-2026) - 5793 (09-06-2032) = 2300 days - not LY
5787 (06-11-2027) - 5794 (09-24-2033) = 2298 days
5788 (05-31-2028) - 5795 (09-14-2034) = 2298 days
5789 (05-20-2029) - 5796 (10-04-2035) = 2329 days
5790 (06-07-2030) - 5797 (09-22-2036) = 2300 days - leap year
5791 (05-28-2031) - 5798 (09-10-2037) = 2298 days
Acts 2:5 says, "there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of EVERY NATION under heaven." Luke 21:24 says, "they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into ALL NATIONS: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled." Amos 9:9 says, " I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among ALL NATIONS, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth."
The Israelites were scattered everywhere, but some out of every nation were in Jerusalem in 30 AD. I see no reason to think that the situation is any different today. Ariel Sharon called for more Jews to come to Israel to live. He didn't specify any certain tribes or any certain regions of origin.
Rev. 3:9 discourages me from pursuing attempts to identify any people as Jewish that do not look Jewish. Although the one article I read on that web site made it clear that the author was not part of it, I steer clear of the British Israelism cult too. In Rev. 3:9, Jesus said, "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee." I just wonder why anyone would spend so much time on trying to trace the wanderings of the Jews that were dispersed throughout the whole world. What would it gain them? Agape
Not all things are good, but the Lord works them together for good in the lives of believers. Rom. 8:28 says, "we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose." May the good Lord bless and comfort you. Thanks to Him, we have our blessed hope to steady us in hard times. Agape
Lu. 13:7-9 says, "Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why combereth it the ground? And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it: And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then AFTER THAT thou shalt cut it down."
It sounds like the Lord stands there in 2000 and looks back, mentioning the 3 years. They could be 1998, 1999 and 2000. Thus the digging and dunging that started Sept. 2000 would fit. Then Israel was to get one more year, which would be till Sept. 2001. The Tribulation sounds like it would start "after that." It looks like Israel has used up her grace period. The confirming (strengthening) the covenant of Dan. 9:27 could come at any time. I don't expect to be here for the confirming with many for the 7-year period.
5278 (fall of 1517) + 480 years is 5758 (1997/1998) - (I Kings 6:1).
5278 + 483 = 5761 (2000/2001). The 70th week of Daniel 9:27 starts after the 69 weeks (483 years). We are now in 5762 (2001/2002).
5278 + 490 = 5768 (2007/2008). This is probably the full 70 weeks of years to finish the transgression and to anoint the Most Holy.
In the 480th year, the son of David began to raise up the temple (I Kings 6:1). Maybe he checked for fruit in 5758, 5759 and 5760, then Israel was digged and dunged in 5761. That makes our time here seem very short. Maybe we haven't yet figured out exactly how many days the shortened Tribulation has. Maybe the 2300 days of Dan. 8:13,14 stretch all the way to the end of Armageddon. However I look at it, the Rapture seems just around the corner....Agape
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