________________________________________________________________________ | w w w |\ | || || | || |\ | o_,_7 _|| . _o_7 _|| 4_|_|| o_w_, |\ | ( : / (_) / ( . |\ | |\ | || || | || |T | | || | |\ | . _, _8 |_D_|| . _,_,_,_D_|| 4_|| q ]_o_7_o _|_c 4_|_|| _|,_p q |\ | (_): / (_): . : / (_S (_S / |\ | |\ | In the Name of Allah, the Compassionate, the All-Merciful |\ | Greeting of Allah be upon Muhammad and the pure members of his House |\ |_______________________________________________________________________|\ Salamun alaykum, The reply to the following questions were kindly provided by Mulla Bashir Rahim. Wasalaam, Mustafa Rawji Moderator, 'Aalim Network ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ INTRODUCTION: I am grateful to the member who submitted the following questions for giving me an opportunity to clarify my earlier posting and also express my views on the issue of la'nah. I have, for the sake of clarity, given below the questions posed (including excerpts from my posting the questioner has referred to) and my response to each question. QUESTIONS: "With due respect, and with a view to seek certain clarifications, I put forth a couple of questions and wish elaborations on the following: QUOTE- "Let us examine the position of the first three khulafah. No one, and I repeat no one, has the right to treat any of them as non-Muslims. (I may add that the position of Yezid is different, but that is not within the scope of this discussion. " QUESTION (1): What is the position of Yezid? Who is worse the three khulafah or Yezid? ANSWER: The position of Yezid is definitely different. When the severed head of Imam Hussain (A.S) was brought to him in Damascus, and the prisoners were made to stand in front of him, Yezid began to recite a poem in which he said, "I wish that my venerable ancestors had witnessed how the supporters of Muhammad's faith were thrown into confusion with the thrusts of my spears. They would have greeted me with blessings and might have said 'May Yezid never get palsied !' The Banu Hashim played a trick to win power. In truth there never was never any wahyi revealed." The above statement of Yezid is clearly a declaration of apostasy. ------------------------------- QUOTE- "Even those who thought they were very close to the Holy Prophet were often assailed by doubts, at Hudaibiyya, at Ghadir-e-Khum, when the Holy Prophet lay ill and after his death. History has chronicled these events and demonstrated that their station can at best only be in between the two circumferences." QUESTION (2) What kind of doubts did they assail? Doubt of the Prophethood or doubt of Wilayat? And what was their final conviction? Could you cite some people who harboured such doubts? ANSWER: Ibne Ishaq (English translation by Gulllaum, p. 504), Haykal in his Life of Muhammad (pp 352-3) as well as Tabari and many other Sunni authors have vividly described the events at Hudaibiyya. When the Holy Prophet had negotiated the peace treaty with the Kuffars of Mecca Umar was so enraged that he went to Abu Bakr and asked (in the words of Haykal) "O Abu Bakr, is not Muhammad the Prophet of God are we not Muslims ?" Abu Bakr answered in the affirmative. Umar then said "Why then should we give in to the disbelievers in a matter vital to our faith ?" Ibne Ishaq describes the incident in almost identical terms ending that much later Umar was heard to say that he never ceased to seek Allah's forgiveness by fasting and giving alms for the doubt that he had entertained. A doubt about the prophethood of the Holy Prophet is indistinguishable from any doubt of any command, declaration or decision of the Holy Prophet. Allah says in Suratun-Najm verses 3 & 4 "Nor does he (the Holy Prophet) speak of his own desire. Whatever he speaks is a revelation made to him (wahyun yooha)" Again in Suratul Ahzab, Ayah 36: "And it is not right for any believing man or a believing woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decided an affair for them, that they should claim any say in that affair. Whoso is rebellious to Allah and His messenger, he is indeed in astray in a manifest error." In An-Nisa, verse 115, Allah says "And whoso opposes the messenger after the guidance of Allah has been manifested to him, and follows other than a believer's way, We appoint for that to which he himself has turned (exercised an option for), and expose him unto Hell, a hapless journey's end." In Suratul Hashr, ayah 7, "What the Prophet gives you accept it, what he withholds keep away from." I trust the above Qur'anic references will prove enlightening. ----------------------------- QUOTE- "Can I , as a good Shiah that I profess to be, really claim to be a Shiah ? Do I faithfully follow the footprints of those aimmah whom I profess to love ? Have I totally submitted my will, my desires and my actions to what they prescribed ?" QUESTION (3): The relation between these questions and the CONCEPT OF CURSING? ANSWER: On the question of cursing Mulla Asghar, who is far more learned than I, had, in an answer to a question posed to him, this to say: "One of the Furu-e-Deen is "Tabarra" which is Wajib. It means to disassociate oneself or remain aloof from, amongst others, the enemies of Ahlul Bayt (A). It is our belief that the rights of Imam Ali (A) were violated by the first three Caliphs (as he himself has testified in Nahjul Balagha). It is therefore necessary that we disassociate ourselves from them, but it is not Wajib to curse or abuse them." (Ref: 'Aalim Network Archives - June 27, 1996) Ziyarat-e-Ashura does contain la'nah on those who deprived the Ahlul Bayt of their rights, persecuted them, oppressed them and murdered them. The Ziyarah comes to us from Imam Muhammad Baqir (A.S.). The chain of narrators is impeccable and the Ziyarah does not at all contradict the Holy Qur'an. In Suratul Ahzab Allah says in Ayah 57: "Indeed those who malign (cause hurt) to, or as Shakir translates the word 'yu'adhoona' speaks evil of Allah and His messenger, Allah has cursed them in this world and in the Hereafter and has prepared for them the doom of the disdained." La'nah on such people is permissible. In Ziyarat-e-'Ashura it takes the form of repeated utterance. We must ask ourselves: Why is it so much stressed that we utter la'nah in this ziyarah? Surely it can not be because we must vent our anger against those who were responsible for these despicable acts. The culprits are no longer there. La'nah is a protest against their evil deeds as much as against them. It is a protest against the evil spirit which they let loose and which not only lives on but is espoused by many to this day. La'nah is a form of commitment. A commitment, firstly, that we shall never ever allow ourselves to be engulfed by that evil spirit and, while professing eternal love for the Holy Prophet and his holy descendants, indulge in any act or omission which may make us appear to be following the foot-prints of the very people we call la'nah upon. This could, God forbid, make us the target of our own la'nah' as when we knowingly disobey Allah and his Prophet in any precept of Islam e.g. failure to perform any wajibat or indulgence in any intoxicant or geebah or causing dissension within the community or being guilty of misappropriating any one's right etc. It is the right of the Holy Prophet to be obeyed and we can not violate that right and at the same time invoke la'nah on those who committed similar offences. The cause of Imam Hussain (A.S.) was to re-establish these rights of Allah and the Holy Prophet. We can not sacrifice the cause of the Martyr on the altar of the ritual of his remembrance. Secondly it is a commitment that we shall by deed and kind words alter the thinking of those Muslims who do not belong to our school of thought. For this latter commitment to be effectively fulfilled it is necessary that the utterance of la'nah be an utterance confined to our gatherings so that we may avoid creating an atmosphere which would arouse distrust of any rational argument we may put forward. --------------------------- QUOTE- "Let me remind you of the saying of Imam Hussain (A.S.):"Our shiah is the one whose heart is pure of malice, deception and corruption. His words and deeds are only for the pleasure of Allah." QUESTION: Is bearing malice against the Caliphs permitted or not? ANSWER: Malice does not appear to be an appropriate term here. We have to, as Mulla Asghar says, disassociate ourselves from the deeds of those who were oppressors and tyrants. GENERAL REMARKS: I thank the questioner for raising so many questions from my previous posting. I trust I have clarified the situation. If there are any supplementary questions, please submit them to the Alim Network. With salaams and du'aas from a humble servant of Ahlul Bayt and their followers, and with a request to be remembered by you in your prayers, Bashir Rahim