JESUS IN INDIA:
This is an interesting subject and this
enquiry will no doubt progress:
http://www.tombofjesus.com/ancient.htm
This website contains writings from Notavich
and many others, that I am using in my referencing.
I first came across this idea, I don't know
where, but the first time I read about it was in Edgar Cayce. I had just only
returned to spirituality after a term as an atheist or agnostic so my mind was
more open to subjects contrary to normal Christian Doctrine.
Cayce in his reading talks of Brahmanism and
Buddhism and other Eastern thought, being taught to Jesus by his instructor
Judy. He mentions that Jesus left Palestine and traveled in India and Ladakh or
Tibet, before returning via Asia and Persia to Egypt thence to Palestine. It
seems the Essenic group that Jesus came out of had a lot in common with the
mystics of other countries, which would be natural. Cayce says that Jesus
studied in Puri, Jagganauth under a certain Arcahaia, before going up to
Rishikesh and eventually the Himalayas, where he stayed in a monastery for some
time.
It is difficult in presenting 'evidence of Jesus in India, that
would
be acceptable to some. As I have said the myths of Jesus abound and
have long tradition. There are over 300,000 sites on the net about it
so it definately has some interest. However most of my research is
oral tradition, not internet. However someone like Meher Baba saying
stuff as well as the Divine Light mission etc is some hypothesis. In
fact as I have tried to say, coming form an Indian perspective avoids
all the prejudice for and against coming from the Gospels or the
Talmud.
This is what Meher Baba had
to
say about Jesus in India:
"There is one secret about Jesus which the Christians do not know.
When Jesus was crucified, he did not die. He entered the state of
Nirvikalp Samadhi (the I-am-God state without bodily consciousness).
On the third day, he again became conscious of his body, and he
traveled secretly in disguise eastward (with some apostles) to India.
This was called Jesus' resurrection. After reaching India, he
traveled farther east to Rangoon, in Burma, where he remained for
some time. He then went north to Kashmir, where he settled. When his
work was finished on earth, he dropped his body and entered Nirvikalp
Samadhi permanently. Saints in India have verified these facts about
Jesus' travels. Mankind will soon become aware of the true life of
Jesus." [23 August 1925, Meherabad, LM3 p752]
It is very interesting that Meher Baba, back in August of 1925,
stated that "Mankind will soon become aware of the true life of
Jesus." Other people from the East, such as Dr. Fida Hassnain,
Basharat Saleem, Shirdi Sai Baba, Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, all have made
similiar statements. My own belief is that Jesus became a Mukta on the
cross..Tony.
Some similarities between different texts Indian and the Bible:
CREATION HYMN from the RIG VEDA
Translation by V. V. Raman, University of
Rochester
No air yet, nor a heaven.
Who encased and kept it
where?
Was water in the darkness
there?
Neither deathlessness nor
decay
No, nor the rhythm of
night and day:
The self-existent, with
breath sans air:
That, and that alone was
there.
Darkness was in darkness
found
Like light-less water all
around.
One emerged, with nothing
on
It was from heat that this
was born.
Into it, Desire, its way
did find:
The primordial seed born
of mind.
Sages know deep in the
heart:
What exists is kin to what
does not.
Across the void the cord
was thrown,
The place of every thing
was known.
Seed-sowers and powers now
came by,
Impulse below and force on
high.
Who really knows, and who
can swear,
How creation came, when or
where!
Even gods came after
creation's day,
Who really knows, who can
truly say
When and how did creation
start?
Did He do it? Or did He
not?
Only He, up there, knows,
maybe;
Or perhaps, not even He.
1:1In
the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 1:2The same was in the beginning with God. 1:3All things were made through him; and without
him was not anything made that hath been made. 1:4In him was life; and the life was the light
of men. 1:5And
the light shineth in the darkness; and the darkness apprehended it not.
1:1
In the beginning God created the heaven and the
earth.
1:2 And
the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon
the face of the deep.
And the Spirit
of God moved upon the face of the waters.
1:3 And
God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
1:4 And
God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
1:5 And
God called the light Day, and the darkness he
called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
1:6 And
God said, Let there be a firmament in the
midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
1:7 And
God made the firmament,
and divided the waters which were under the firmament from
the waters which were above the firmament: and it
was so.
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Extracts from the book ‘The unknown life of
Jesus Christ’, by Nicholas Notavich. Tree of Life Publications.
"It was then that Issa clandestinely
left his father's house, went out of Jerusalem, and, in company with some
merchants, traveled toward Sindh, that he might perfect himself in the divine
word and study the laws of the great Buddhas. In the course of his fourteenth
year, young Issa, blessed by God, journeyed beyond the Sindh and settled
among the Aryas in the beloved country of God. The fame of his name spread
along the Northern Sindh. When he passed through the country of the five
rivers and the Radjipoutan, the worshippers of the God Djaine begged him to
remain in their midst. "But he left the misguided admirers of Djaine and visited
Juggernaut, in the province of Orsis, where the remains of Viassa-Krichna
rest, and where he received a joyous welcome from the white priests of
Brahma. "They taught him to read and understand the Vedas, to
heal by prayer, to teach and explain the Holy Scripture, to cast out evil
spirits from the body of man and give him back human semblance. He spent six years
in Juggarnaut, Rajegriha, Benares, and the other holy cities; all loved him,
for Issa lived in peace with the Vaisyas and the Soudras, to whom he taught
the Holy Scripture. "But the Brahmans and the Kshatriyas declared that the
Great Para-Brahma forbade them to approach those whom he had created from his
entrails and from his feet. That the Vaisyas were authorized to listen only
to the reading of the Vedas, and that never save on the feast days. "That the Soudras were not only forbidden to attend the reading
of the Vedas, but to gaze upon them even, for their condition was to
perpetually serve and act as slaves to the Brahmans, the Kshatriyas, and even
to the Vaisyas. 'Death alone can free them from servitude,' said Para-Brahma.
'Leave them, therefore, and worship with us the gods who will show their
anger against you if you disobey them.' "But Issa would not heed them; and going to the Soudras,
preached against the Brahmans and the Kshatriyas. He strongly denounced the
men who robbed their fellow-beings of their rights as men, saying, 'God the
Father establishes no difference between his children, who are equally dear
to him... "'The wrath of God shall soon be let loose on man, for he
has forgotten his Creator and filled his temples with abominations, and he
adores a host of creatures which God has subordinated to him. For, to be
pleasing to stones and metals, he sacrifices human beings in whom dwells a
part of the spirit of the Most High. "For he humiliates them that labor by the sweat of their
brow to gain the favor of an idler who is seated at a sumptuously spread
table. They that deprive their brothers of divine happiness shall themselves
be deprived of it, and the Brahmans and the Kshatriyas shall become the
Soudras with whom the Eternal shall dwell eternally. "For on the day of the Last Judgment, the Soudras and the
Vaisyas shall be forgiven because of their ignorance, while God shall visit
his wrath on them that have arrogated his rights.' "The Vaisyas and the Soudras were struck with admiration,
and demanded of Issa how they should pray to secure their happiness. 'Do not
worship idols, for they do not hear you; do not listen to the Vedas, where
the truth is perverted; do not believe yourself first in all things, and do
not humiliate your neighbor. Help the poor, assist the weak, harm no one, do
not covet what you have not and what you see in the possession of
others.'" (Ibid, pgs. 34-35) |
Orthodox
Christian religion when they were young.
"And the learned men then said: 'Who art thou, and from what
country hast thou come into our own? We had never heard of thee, and do not
even know thy name.' "'I am an Israelite,' responded Isa, 'and on the very day
of my birth, I saw the walls of Jerusalem, and I heard the weeping of my
brothers reduced to slavery, and the moans of my sisters carried away by
pagans into captivity. "And my soul was painfully grieved when I saw that my
brothers had forgotten the true God; while yet a child, I left my father's
house to go among other nations. But hearing that my brothers were enduring
still greater tortures, I returned to the land in which my parents dwelt,
that I might recall to my brothers the faith of their ancestors, which
teaches us patience in this world that we may obtain perfect and sublime
happiness on High.'" "And the learned old men asked him this question: 'It is
claimed that you deny the laws of Mossa [Moses] and teach the people to
desert the temple of God.' "And Issa said: 'We cannot demolish what has been given
by our Heavenly Father and what has been destroyed by sinners; but I have
recommended the purification of all stain from the heart, for that is the
veritable temple of God. "As to the law of Mossa, I have striven to reestablish
them in the heart of men; and I say to you, that you are in ignorance of
their true meaning, for it is not vengeance, but forgiveness that they teach;
but the sense of these laws have been perverted." (Ibid, pgs 39-40) |
Swami Abhedananda, a leading figure in the
Ramakrishna Society, was known and respected throughout the world. He read
Notovich's book while in America, and some years later (in 1922) finally had
the opportunity to travel to Hemis to find out for himself whether
Notovitch's story was true. He explained Notovitch's claims to the lamas, who
confirmed they were true. Then he was shown a manuscript, which he was told
was a translation into Tibetan of an original which was in a monastery at
Marbour near Lhasa.[13] With the aid of one of the lamas, Abhedananda made
his own translations, which closely agree with those of Notovitch.
Abhedananda published his translations of the Issa Scriptures in Kashmir O
Tibbate (In Kashmir and Tibet).[14] The famous and widely respected expatriate Russian artist and
intellectual, Nicholas Roerich, visited the Hemis monastery (in 1925), and
published his account of the Issa manuscripts in his books Heart of Asia and
Altai-Himalaya. Again they confirm Notovitch's story and add some extra
details. Like Notovitch and Swami Abhedananda before him, Roerich made his
own translation of parts of the Issa manuscripts. Where these three
translations overlap, they agree quite well.[15] In the summer of 1939 Madame Caspairi, a Swiss musician, went
on a pilgrimage to India organized by a renowned religious leader Mrs
Clarence Gasque. Mrs Gasque was known internationally as the head of the
World Fellowship of Faith, and she and her party were most cordially received
everywhere they went throughout the pilgrimage. In one case, an Indian
maharajah literally rolled out a red carpet to greet them. At Hemis, although
they arrived just after the annual performance of a mystery play was over,
the lamas performed it a second time in their honour. What happened next was
extraordinary: A few days after the performance, when seated alone on the
roof of the monastery, Mrs Gasque and Madame Caspari were approached by the
librarian of the convent and two other monks. They were carrying three
manuscripts in ornate coverings, one of which the librarian ceremoniously
unwrapped. He then presented Mrs. Gasque the parchment leaves and with great
reverence said, "These books say your Jesus was here." … While we have no reason not to take the monks at their word,
unfortunately we do not know what the books said. They were written in
Tibetan and neither of the two women asked for a translation. However, Madame
Caspari did take a picture of the lama proudly displaying the book.[16] In
1951, U.S. Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas traveled to Hemis. In his
Beyond the High Himalayas, he observed that there were many legends in the
area concerning the monastery at Hemis, and that one of them related to
Jesus. Some people believed Jesus visited Hemis, coming at the age of 14 and
leaving at the age of 28, traveling under the name Issa. The legend described
Issa's stay there in some detail.[17] There are two other people who have stumbled upon this legend,
even though they had never previously heard of Jesus being in India. Dr
Robert S. Ravicz, professor of anthropology at California State University,
visited Hemis (in 1975), and while there was told by a friend, an eminent
Ladakhi physician, that it was said there were documents at the monastery
which stated that Jesus had been to Hemis.[18] In the late 1970's Edward F.
Noack was staying at Hemis when a lama at the monastery told him that a
manuscript relating the story of Jesus' pilgrimage to Ladakh was locked in
the storeroom."[19] Finally, there is a confirmation of the accuracy of the Hemis
Scriptures about Issa from another part of India al-together, and from a
Hindu rather than a Buddhist source. It will be recalled that these
scriptures said Issa spent six years in Jagannath (now Puri) and other holy
cities of the Hindus, before going to live for a further six years in the
Himalayas. Sri Daya Mata, president of Self-Realization Fellowship, went to
India in 1959, and in an interview with one of India's great spiritual
leaders, His Holiness Sri Bharati Krishna Tirtha, the Shankaracharya of Puri,
she mentioned that she had been told that Jesus "spent some of his life
in India, in association with her illumined sages. His Holiness replied,
'That is true. I have studied ancient records in the Puri Jagannath Temple
archives confirming those facts. He was known as "Isha," and during
part of his time in India he stayed in the Jagannath Temple. When he returned
to his part of the world, he expounded the teachings that are known today as
Christianity'"[20]. . . [Excerpts from Mason's book, In Search of the
Living God, Chapter 4. Also, click
here.] This reference also; "Swami Abhedananda's Journey into
Kashmir and Tibet," by Ansupati Dasgupta and Kunja Bihari Kundu, of the
Ramakrishna Vedanta Math Publication Department, 19B, Raja Rajkrishna Street,
Calcutta-700 006, India. Mark Mason. |
Summary chart of
documented visitors to Hemis
who saw or heard about the Jesus scrolls
Name of Visitor |
Year of visit |
Reported |
Nicholas Notovitch |
1887 |
Saw document |
Swami Abhedenanda |
1922 |
Saw document |
Nicholas Roerich and son |
1925 |
Saw document |
Mrs. Gasque |
1939 |
Saw document: Shown to her by Lama Nawong Zangpo |
E. Caspari |
1939 |
Saw document: Shown to her by Lama Nawong Zangpo |
Dr. R. Ravicz |
1973 |
Oral reference: informed by Tibetan friend |
U. Eichstadt |
1974 |
Saw document |
‘The unknown life of Jesus
Christ’. N. Notavich. Tree of life
publications.
"Shalivahan, who was a grandson of Bikrama Jit, took over
the government. He vanquished the attacking hordes of Chinese, Parthians,
Scythians and Bactrians. He drew a border between the Arians and the Mleacha (=
non-Hindus), and ordered the latter to withdraw to the other side of
India. One day, Shalivahan, the chief ot the Sakyas, went into the Himalayas.
There, in the Land of the Hun (= Ladakh, a part of the Kushan empire), the
powerful king saw a man sitting on a mountain, who seemed to promise
auspiciousness. His skin was fair and he wore white garments. "The king asked the holy man who he was. The other
replied: 'I am called a son of God, born of a virgin, minister of the
non-believers, relentless in search of the truth.' The king then asked him:
'What is your religion?' The other replied, 'O great king, I come from a
foreign country, where there is no longer truth and where evil knows no
bounds. In the land of the non-believers, I appeared as the Messiah. But the
demon Ihamasi of the barbarians (dasyu) manifested herself in a terrible
form; I was delivered unto her in the manner of the non-believers and ended
in Ihamasi's realm. "'O king, lend your ear to the religion that I brought
unto the non-believers: after the purification of the essence and the impure
body and after seeking refuge in the prayers of the Naigama, man will pray to
the Eternal. Through justice, truth, meditation and unity of spirit, man will
find his way to Isa in the center of light. God, as firm as the sun, will
finally unite the spirit of all wandering beings in himself. Thus, O king, Ihamasi
will be destroyed; and the blissful image if Isa, the giver of happiness,
will remain forever in the heart; and I was called Isa-Masih.' After
the king heard these words, he took the teacher of the non-believers and sent
him to their pitiless land."(verses 16-33 of the third khanda of the
Pratisarga parvan of the Bhavishya Mahapurana) |
|
Hindu Purana on Jesus
" Here is another version of St. Isa, who
in this story is called St. Isha.. [this story is from the Hindu Sutra:
Natha-nama-vali]
"Isha Natha came to India at the age of
fourteen. After this he returned to his own country and began preaching. Soon
after, his brutish and materialistic countrymen conspired against him and had
him crucified. After crucifixion, or perhaps even before it, Isha Natha entered
samadhi or profound trance, by means of yoga. Seeing him thus, the Jews
presumed he was dead, and buried him in a tomb. At that very moment however,
one of his gurus or teachers, the great Chetan Natha, happened to be in
profound meditation, in the lower reaches of the Himalayas, and he saw in a
vision the tortures which Isha Natha was undergoing. He therefore, made his
body lighter than air and passed over to the land of Israel.
The day of his arrival was marked with
thunder and lightning, for the god were angry with the Jews, and the whole
world trembled. When Chetan Natha arrived, he took the body of Isha Natha from
the tomb, woke him (Jesus) from his samadhi, and later led him off to the
sacred land of the Aryans. Isha Natha then established an ashram in the lower
regions of the Himalayas and he established the cult of lingam and the yoni
there."
According to Professor Fida Hassnain, this religion
still exists today in India and some of their hymns speak of John the
Baptist."
So there are references to
Jesus in India, and enough circumstantial evidence to provide a case for him
being there. Some of the spelling is a little strange; like Djain for Jains,
Krichna for Krishna and perhaps Ihamasmi for Ahamasmi. Cayce indicates his
visit to four years, between twelve years of age to sixteen, but doesn’t
indicate whether he returned or how many times. Which is highly possible for
Cayce only answered one reading at a time. Evidence seems to suggest a later
visit, and there is no proof of how old Jesus was at the time. Some say it was
after the crucifixion even, but that is beyond the scope of this book’s
commentary.