Namaste,
According to the eminent scientists like Lovelock
and even Al Gore's movie 'An inconvenient truth', we have only ten years to
prevent a virtual extinction of civilisation and population. This is all
hanging on the usa india and china stopping pollution--------NO CHANCE! SO WE
ARE HEADED TO AN EXTINCTION OF THE POPULATION. Lovelocks says billions will die
within 50-100 years and a small population of breeding couples will survive
near the Poles.
This means that the Asuras or Astral and Patalic Beings
need to recruit people for their astral realms and the other material
dimensions', planets etc. This is why muktananda, benjamin creme and his spirit
demon master 'the false maitreya'etc, are recruiting captive spirits.
sb is part of this plan, he was no doubt one of the
Rakshasa breed that dominated the planet before the Kumaras and Adamics
descended to futiley try and straighten it all out. (The Rakshasa breed were
astral beings that descended on the planet but became enmeshed in matter).
These astral beings still try and pull strings from
the astral and seem to being doing it quite effectively.
THIS IS WHY SAI BABA LIED ABOUT HIS MOTHER AND
OTHERS GETTING MOKSHA WHEN THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY 'CAPTIVE SPIRITS' ON THE ASTRAL.
Moksha means Moha Kshya or illusion destroyed. There
is no return as a friendly ghost as Easwaramma or Iris Murphet. They don't have
moksha they are captives as are many more ex devotees.
The old semitic idea of the Devil collecting souls has
some resonance in myth here, with these collectors like sai baba et al.
Here is an exchange on Moksha.
>
>( Namaste all!
>
> Please, help me with understanding.
>
> In the "Brahma Sutra" :
> Jagadvyaparavarjam prakaranadasannihitattvaccha
IV.4.17
>
> The liberated soul attains all lordly powers)
except the power of
creation, etc., on account Of (the Lord being) the
subject matter (of
all texts where creation, Etc., are referred to) and
(the liberated
souls) not being mentioned (in that connection)
>
> If ahankar or individuality of soul is
illusion, how can I
understand words that after moksha jiva still being?
>
> Please, give me right understanding of this.
>
>
> Pranams.
> ----------
> Shiv Anurag
Namaste Shiv ji,
The sutra quoted above is about that soul who has
taken to the path
of higher meditations, he is a Saguna Brahma vit and
BEFORE ATTAINING
DIRECT REALIZATION OF THE ABSOLUTE BRAHMAN (IN THE
MANNER 'AHAM
BRAHMASMI'), passes away. By virtue of his
extraordinary merit born
of Saguna upasana, he attains powers of lordship to
a great extent.
After the punya phalam is exhausted, he, being in
Brahmaloka, gains
the Liberating Knowledge there and thereafter gets
liberated, without
having to return to samsara. As such, till such time
he gets direct
realization of Brahman, he is not fully released in
the absolute
terms. In the case of someone who has obtained the
Direct Liberationg
Realization of the Absolute here itself, that is
before death, there
being instantaneous moksha for him, there is no
question of his prana
leaving the body and travelling to any other loka.
For such a soul
there is no return to this samsara also.
Thus, this particular sutra is about a person who
has not yet
attained moksha. The following translation of the
Bhashya for the
final sutra throws light on the issue.
22. (Of them) there is non-return, according to
scripture; non-
return, according to scripture.
Those who, in following the road of the gods, to
which the vein and
the ray are leading, and on which light is the first
stage, reach the
world of Brahman as described by scripture--where
'there are the two
lakes Ara and Nya in the world of Brahman, in the
third heaven from
hence,' and where 'there is the lake Airammadīya and
the Asvattha
tree showering down Soma. and the city of Brahman
Aparāgitā and the
golden hall built by Prabhu' (Kh. Up. VIII, 5,
3)--and set forth at
length in mantras, arthavādas, and so on; those, we
say, who reach
that world do not return from there after having finished
the
enjoyment of their deeds; as those do who have gone
to the world of
the moon and other places.---Why so?--Because
scriptural passages
teach that they do not so return. Compare 'Moving
upwards by it he
reaches the immortal' (Kh. Up. VIII, 6, 6); 'For
them there is no
return' (Bri. Up. VI, 2, 15); 'Those who proceed on
that path do not
return to the life of man' (Kh. Up. IV, 15, 6); 'He
reaches the world
of Brahman and does not return' (Kh. Up. VIII, 15,
1). That the
finality of their lordly power does not imply their
return to the
life of man, we have shown under IV, 3, 10. IT IS A
SETTLED MATTER
THAT THOSE WHO THROUGH PERFECT KNOWLEDGE HAVE
DISPELLED ALL MENTAL
DARKNESS AND ARE DEVOTED TO THE ETERNALLY PERFECT
NIRVANA DO NOT
RETURN. . And as those also who rely on the
knowledge of the
qualified Brahman in the end have recourse to that
(Nirvāna), it
follows that they also do not return.--The
repetition of the
words, 'Non-return, according to scripture,'
indicates the conclusion
of this body of doctrine.
Warm regards,
subbu.....)
So one sees here, that if one is a lover of Saguna
one can end up in the Brahmaloka heaven, until pralaya, but there would still
be no returns.
For arguments sake there are, several or more astral
planes, with form, and then higher with amorphous form and finally mental
planes with only energy form.
The lower astrals have a form like the one has in
one's last life on the material earth...This is a low heaven astral plane or
whatever.
This is where Easwaramma and Iris are
notwithstanding the samadhi sai baba built for his mother. Samadhis are only
built for perfected Jivanmuktas such as Ramana etc. Easwaramma isn't a Mukta
but a captive spirit.
WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE AND DON'T DIE WITH THESE
DEMONS LIKE SAI BABA OF PARTHI AND FALSE MAITREYA ETC ON YOUR MIND---YOU WILL
BECOME A SLAVE SPIRIT WHISPERING IN THE MINDS OF DEVOTEES AND CREATING
MANIFESTANTIONS FOR EVERMOR..Tony.