>From: Graydon Hoare>To: cosmobimbo@hotmail.com >Subject: math things >Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 02:44:37 -0500 >hey, I took your web site ad from your door on friday when I came by >to visit patrick. I visited your site and, while obviously all things >are illusory and metaphysically this is all just an exercise in self >amusement, nonetheless I might offer some "answers" to your questions: > >wrt william poundstone's question on the flickering lamp, the sum of >an infinite series is an abuse of notation, iirc. The closed sigma >form is defined over finite index sets, and then you're taking the >limit of the sigma form as the index set (naturals from 1 to n) grows >without bound. The sigma 1 to infinity is actually short hand for >limit of sigma 1 to n, as n grows to infinity. That means the light >converges to a state of being on for a full second, but doesn't >necessarily achieve it. The supremum is on, but the set of >light-switch states is open, by simple inspection of the >expression. There is no natural number N such that 1/N = 0, yet for >any natural K > 0 you can find a natural L > K such that 1/L < 1/K, so >the partial sums are definitely an open set. > >wrt the "warp 2 blink"; I think, if my meagre understanding of special >relativity is accurate, that as you approach the speed of light, the >magnitudes of all vectors in the subspace generated by your vector of >motion converge towards zero, so there's no meaning to the phrase >"faster than light" -- motion becomes meaningless along that >vector. You become infinitely close to everything along the line of >motion. Space is actually supposed to expand and contract depending on >how fast you move relative to other things in space. > >wrt visualizing the 4th dimension, it might help to think not in terms >of the "passage" of time, since that's just one arbitrary, fixed >subspace of 4-space. Think of the motion of 3d-humans through 4-space >as equivalent to a sheet of paper suspended in 3-space. The paper has >a fixed 2 dimensional subspace. No motion can be made on the paper >which is orthogonal to the 2 dimensions of the page -- you cannot get >"off" the page. Thus, even if you had complete freedom of motion in >the page, if it were infinitely large and you had complete mastery of >it, you would have no way of altering your elevation off the >page. You're trapped in it. The only motion of vectors in the page >which even makes sense in 3 dimensions is the motion of the *entire* >page at once. If I lift the page, or drop it from a building, the >whole space traverses the 3rd dimension at the same pace, and its >vectors are still completely fixed in the subspace of the page >(ignoring for the moment such mind games as folding the page or >whatnot). I usually find that the most illuminating visualization of >dimensions. If you like, you can also just think about the matrix math >that underlies it all, but it's not quite as intuitive.. > >and for what it's worth, roger penrose recently sued a toilet paper >company because they stole one of his symmetry groups as a >pattern. > >sleep tight, > >-graydon >From: Graydon Hoare >Reply-To: Graydon Hoare >To: frances raftis >Subject: Re: math things >Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:05:26 -0500 (EST) > >If you were to paste enough famous academics' heads on poster boys, you >could probably sell a calendar full and make a fortune. > >um, after 2 seconds the guy flipping the light has presumably worn out his >fingers (having completed a power series), but if he's still at it and the >strategy hasn't changed, the light should still just be hovering >infinitely close to the supremum -- if I read the problem right it never >achieves it. sigma abuse can be a crime; unless they're consenting >submissives you really ought to let them go. > >I read the bit where penrose started thinking about quantum superposition >in the thermally isolated segments of the cytoskeletal network as an >explanation for the controlled feeling of consciousness in human minds, >but he immediately begins backpedalling in later work because he doesn't >want to want to be seen as promoting a theory that admits the plausibility >of a conscious computer or ocean, and finds it displeasing that such >things would have an inner life of their own. bloody fascist. > >you're right about truth, but math isn't about truth. it's about playing >with things which make no sense to others, but are beautiful in their own >way. My analysis teacher relayed this quote: "Mathematicians are like the >french. Upon hearing anything in english, they immediately translate it to >their own language, in which is means something completely different." > >-graydon > > > >From: Graydon Hoare >To: cosmobimbo@hotmail.com >Subject: feynmann bagel stories >Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 00:29:27 -0500 > >what makes blue murder different than red murder? >no I didn't find the secret message, you deconstructed your web page before I >had a chance to look. what are you some kind of manic webpage monster? >ps even if he'd have lived long enough, zeno would have hated leibnitz. > >-graydon >From: Graydon Hoare >To: cosmobimbo@hotmail.com >Subject: Re: feynmann bagel stories >Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:00:15 -0500 > >in fact there *are* bagel stories > >http://freeweb.pdq.net/shoe/stories.htm > >don't splay yourself too much, it can cause market instability. > >-graydon >From: Graydon Hoare >To: cosmobimbo@hotmail.com >CC: graydon@pobox.com >Subject: Re: feynmann bagel stories >Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 16:39:38 -0500 > >you can make your own bagel story about feynman if you like. they >have a "amazing bagel story generator" actually. > >what astonishes me is that I found this page only *after* you asked if >there were bagel stories. I just asked the mother web for "bagel >stories". That's completely absurd. the web must be destroyed before >it consumes everything. > >you remind me, I mean to go to hart house today.. wonder when it closes. > >-graydon >From: Graydon Hoare >Reply-To: Graydon Hoare >To: frances raftis >Subject: stroboplastics >Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:39:11 -0500 (EST) > >you're taking an awfully big risk transmitting the number 23 over an >unencrypted channel. > >ps. all those packing non sequiturs kept the poppy seeds just the right >temperature. > > > >From: Graydon Hoare >To: oliver wendel jones >Subject: chromoplastics >Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:23:29 -0500 (EST) > >it's pretty easy, being over your head. I mean I have the genetic >advantage of being taller. it's not really fair at all. >is there a prize? > > >From: Graydon Hoare >Reply-To: Graydon Hoare >To: Frances Absurdity Raftis >Subject: phytoplastics >Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:35:23 -0500 (EST) > >see, you're really assuming I have control over the height of my >cupboards. my landlord would be appalled it I went and adjusted everything >to be the right height. > > >From: Graydon Hoare >To: "welles fargo" >Subject: pneumoplastiks >Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:52:49 -0500 > >think evil in O2 is really predicated on how you want to describe the >intents of entire elements. have read some "philosophy" on the matter >by the chemists from california and they think it has to do with >cosmic geometry or something wonderful like that, words like evil >don't come up much. tend to think calling O2 good or bad on our terms >is like the baby carrot calling the banker dishonest, but there's >certainly -some- intent in a bottle of air. doubt is relates to bank >heists or genocide tho. agreed death and perhaps most things are not >well understood, but this isn't too disturbing is it? understanding is >a lark. > >am in 2nd year math spec. with a sorta lame dog of a minor in >computers to prop me up for time of inevitably getting sick of >math. tho had a very odd & cranky day and left classes early because >they were generally insulting to intelligence or else it's just that >time of month and need to sleep.. mmm. ripe bananas, hot bath, >semialgebras & fierce german techno.. you're still in mol bio yes? >year 1 or 2? > >start using first person pronoun again? >From: Graydon Hoare >To: tuber snaky >Subject: rickshawmorphy >Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:43:22 -0500 > >I have received twelve emails today, all of them blank, from a man >named wilhelm wienemann who apparantly still has to learn how email >works. it must be very important. he needs help. perhaps he is stuck >in the bottom of a well with an animated evil potato. > >I don't know where quiz came from. john turturro? no, it was earlier >than him.. > >you should write science fiction about surfers in hawaii. when they >complain that it's not in outer space or related to the internet, >biotechnology, global warming, and the global ultra-corporations which >occupy most SF, you can give them a snide look as though they're too >stupid to understand the metaphor. > >From: Graydon Hoare >To: dust monkey >Subject: one legged centipede >Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 19:51:35 -0500 > >I agree, I'm quite pleased I managed to track down a new job which is >all remote geek work with a crew in dallas, and lets me work *at* >4am. JOY. I like the sunshine and everything but through the winter >the only thing the daytime has to offer is more wind and more traffic. > >I'm actually vegetarian, so futomake isn't really #1 on my list. I >really dig sushi tho, just not eel. > >A book, toilet paper and gum is just enough to make some little people >made of paper, but then, I might get distracted and not finish. I'm >easily distracted. like for instance, I might get up and make some >waffles. A friend my roommate's been seeing off and on left us crate >of 48 eggo waffles, on our back porch. Strange girl.. > >wesley willis is a giraffe. he's not dangerous, because he's only 2 >inches tall. besides which giraffes are harmless (unless you're a bug >or a tree). Not nearly as bad as elephants, which (no joke) actually >knock over trees they don't like with their heads in order to let >tastier grasses grow. > >you learned fake bellydancing? where, at work? >I think I know some people at the CIA if you want I can put you in >touch, but they might "disappear" you. > >-graydon > >From: Graydon Hoare >To: permanent creation >Subject: principle of equivalence >Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:37:31 -0500 > >coffee is my third weakness. >ashe (from evil dead) whupped Wesley Willis' ass. Ashe whupped >everyone's ass, including ripley, conan, and even the guy who was >robocop before he got all messed up and had to wear the >helmet. um. um. whatshisname. >don't dispair tho. life isn't always as amok as we desire. > >- coming - down - off - sugar - high - > >hmm, I should go learn how statistics work. >-g >From: Graydon Hoare >To: samhan nem >Subject: phree juph >Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:49:07 -0500 > >was in the area and thought I'd drop in but it's midnight and I need >to make analysis homework happen. how you fixed for lobster? oh wait.. > >From: Graydon Hoare >To: Astro chicken >Subject: mon crayon est jeune >Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 21:38:24 -0500 > >I actually know everyone named ambrose. it's a hobby. >catholics can be nice people, I just wouldn't want to be one >myself.. there's a little too much clarity and conviction in that >faith. I can only handle religions whose main philosophical conclusion >is "we know squat, so lets just be friendly" > >mmm. goat cheese. so.. goddamn.. long.. since.. I've.. had.. any > >-markus milna >From: Graydon Hoare >To: El Hector >Subject: edgy squirrils >Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 12:37:45 -0500 > >3 members of the dirty dozen, mikhail baryshnikov, winston churchill, >marlon brando, my best friend's bar mitzvah instructor with the wooden >leg, the director of the CIA, francis bacon, hargrove montel, frank >oz, and my last roommate -- dirty old goats every last one of >them. Plus, there's a huge number of actual old goats who quality as >dirty, either through goat sexual deviancy, orgiastic pagan goat blood >festivals, goat gambling, goat pit fighting, or goat solvent abuse. > >I like to assume people are deeply, irrevocably corrupted until they >hint me otherwise. as st augustine put it: peccatum poena peccati. sin >is the punishment for sin. you get what you paid for. > >-thubrik > >From: Graydon Hoare >To: shoe maker >Subject: fritz oswald >Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 21:03:36 -0500 > >I think goats, um, don't bathe. I think they just stand in the rain >and get angry. or perhaps they lick themselves.. some animals do that >to keep clean. Generally the mammals don't like submersion. Unless >they're cetaceans or humans. > >it is entirely possible that you saw me in diablos, as I was there >cramming for math. It is also entirely possible I didn't recognize >you. what were you presenting your metamorphic self in today? I was >wearing the same brown coat, a black sweater and a little necklace, >had almost no hair and was grimacing uncontrollably at the vile >theorems of vector calculus, and sipping coffee by the clock so as to >peak precisely 25 minutes into my test, which went horrendously >poorly. > >I got an interesting book about the life of evariste galois. it's pretty >good. first fiction I've read in a while. he was a twerp, but a smart >one. > >yow its windy.. > >From: Graydon Hoare >To: neuro frito >Subject: and so I challenge you! >Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 00:57:57 -0500 > >Oh please! I don't study physics. physics is for people who want to >apply things.. I think this book sums it up nicely: > >"Now I see that there are four kinds of heroes. The first, and least, >the Three Hundred Spartans, who combed their hair as the Persians >converged on them. Second, Socrates, and those who sacrifice their >life for a moral or ethical ideal. Third, the martyrs, like the young >Saint Sebastian, who dies, and maybe still die, for their >Faith. Fourth, and highest, Archimedes, the man who gave his life for >nothing more than a circle. As the Roman sword rose above his head, >Archimedes was not thinking of his country's welfare nor strengthened >by a sense of moral or ethical righteousness. He was not looking >beyond the blade to paradise. At that instant, sitting in a circle >drawn on the sandy floor, he vanquished the sword through >geometry. And when the sword fell, the old man was embraced at once by >the circle he loved." > >if I recall, the colloquium was about fodor's new book, not the fate >(!) of the universe.. perhaps we're thinking of different >colloquii. was it the cog sci student union thingy? I didn't really >have a choice about going, as it was co-scheduled against my test with >kiumars, the mild-mannered mumbling manifolds TA. I wanted to go >because I like that fella whose name I forget who asked me, the cog >sci keener. damn my memory's bad. too .. much .. drugs! > >was all ready to go to hart house again but my roommate enslaved me to >go buy groceries. he is true domestic evil. he decorates. bleah. I >even paid the bills, yet still he torments me. I will shackle him to >his bed and pour creamed corn all over him when he's not paying >attention.. I shall go ride the bicycle of eternal friction tomorrow >after differentials. the exercize high is pretty good. It's not >*quite* as good as heroin, but then there's something to be said for >moderation, especially if you're trying to wake up the next day and >want to go to class. > >-bedoin smith > >From: Graydon Hoare >To: Jub Jub >Subject: moulinex >Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 08:56:21 -0500 > >martyrdom is just self obsession taken to its illogical conclusion. I >have no real patience for it. I agree entirely that the act of >creating something is the essential joy of a discipline. merely >sitting and contemplating is dull. But this is not the issue I am >referring to. Motivation is the issue -- I spend hours programming for >fun, as it provides me similar pleasure, but I need no worldly >justification as to the *worthiness* of the activity. it doesn't >actually have to be useful to anyone if it has some aesthetic or >curiosity value to me. It is pleasing, so I do it. Clearly phisics can >have such personal value, but the math department (I find) has less >devotees of the almighty utilitarian greater good, and more people >just enfatuated with playing with something they enjoy. I have the >same criticism about the computer science dept. Too many want to make >programs which cause someone to get rich or something "important" to >get done; all fine and well for putting food on the table, but where >is the passion in that? This is why I switched majors. The people in >CS don't generally *care*. Many times I've been in a CS class and the >instructor says "this is something somewhat mathematical, so we'll >just skip it since it's non-critical to your careers" and then totally >glosses over the most beautiful CS idea. That's really too bad. > >math is, as you say, very simple. I doubt it even requires 10 >completely distinct ideas. you have sets, you have the natural numbers >(which are the cardinality of sets), and you have maybe 3-4 set axioms >which they preserve. everything else is just a construction / >exploration of the things you can make with sets. You know an attempt >was made to actually formulate a proof of set axioms using set axioms? >hehe. fools, oh well. It didn't work of course; got proved impossible. > >weight lifting eh? I've pretty much stuck to the bikes, or >running. makes me feel quite delicious if I give it long enough. It's >a slow activity, sorta hypnotic but very good.. long time to stretch, >warm up, actually do it, cool down, and stretch; but then I actually >*can* move the next day. perhaps I'll try the large mass moving and >see what it does to/for me. the amount I giggle depends entirely on >whether it's a funny feeling or a groovy feeling. sometimes I just >smile. > >must head out now. differentials awaits. > >-pugmort > > >From: Graydon Hoare >To: chavoise r monk >Subject: dufresne >Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:10:52 -0500 (EST) > >the difference between computers and bio is that when you're all done with >a program at the end of a day, there's less of a chance that it will >follow you home and eat you. when we start making robots with teeth and >poisonous venom, maybe the perils will be equal.. but I think the >principles are all the same -- playing with structures of simple things, >teaching them to modify themselves and reproduce. > >extension of sensory organs is a worthy pursuit. I'm not sure how well >conventional programming or biology techniques are suited to the task, but >one can always invent new techniques.. I've always wondered what the >heliosphere looks like in the colors I can't imagine. > >-graydon > > >From: Graydon Hoare >To: yokimbe the yellowfish >Subject: gazip moth stewy >Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 01:19:52 -0500 > >I don't work my arms out much -- didn't try chinups, but I doubt I >could do [m]any. Perhaps I will work my arms up to it... I tried some >of the bicep things and the thigh things, the hamstring thing, and one >of the lower back things. there were moments, but it wasn't like >wall-to-wall bliss. > >to fix sickness, ingest 2 quarts of water each 4 hours, either plain >or boiled with ecinacea if you have any. Noah's sells it by the >bag. Bathe twice a day, in really hot water, and sleep in a dark, >quiet room the rest of the time. If you can't sleep, think about >eggplant or bruce lee. Eat honey (your body does not need to work >digest it) and bread, and the sickness will be gone in 2 days. you get >sympathy whether its your fault or not. sick is bleh. > >When I was little, I once had a fever which caused me to hallucinate >that my hands were turning to wood. it was horrifying. it's worse when >you're a child though, and do not know how to control it at all. > >churchland, from what I've read of him, is just a materialist who >likes to play devils advocate and try to get a rise out of other >philosophers. does a damn fine job at it too.. > >when I was 18, I was a hippie, and then a raver. I raved >constantly. that's all I remember.. it was a good year. there was >nothing else that needed doing. > >you missed a pretty good belly dance at milk. there was even a fire eater. :) > >-gourd the turnip > > >From: Graydon Hoare >To: Antler Girl >Subject: china >Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 17:06:08 -0500 > >hamilton is no place to be growing up. you're lucky you didn't get >captured by a spinach monster. I was born there and left immediately, >though I suppose not by my own choosing. having long hair can be fun, >but having no hair is ecstatic. unless you subscribe to the theory >that they are antennae for interstellar communication, in which case >having no hair is just peaceful. Aside from the tranquility of math >and programming, I haven't found anything that surpasses raves. I >doubt I'm spicy enough to be a spice girl. > >blerp. just woke up. must use shower technology to regain >sanit(y|ation). will by by around 6:30? >-gfish > >From: Graydon Hoare >To: elvis costello >Subject: vishnu mark 1 >Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 23:46:44 -0500 > >spinach good. just ate too much curried spinach with my ex-boss and >his bro before we proceeded to loot offices of work, ninj style. the >lawyers are coming to lock the palce down. confiscation orders. got my >too much coffee man comics, symplx techno disk and small bottle of >emergency ibuprophen. erased all fingerprints, out thru the >cieling. run run run.. spinach monster's coming! > >don't get me wrong, you got a fine mane. I's just sayin that sometimes >life gets ya down, and a soft fuzzy head of stubble can be your only >friend in this cruel, mixed up daffy world. Plus it helps if you're >dancing a lot, as your hair smells less and you don't get as hot. > >mmm. winnipeg. harsh mistress of the coldest winter winds. have you >been out there much since your relocation to the steel city? I have >only been there a couple times, and not recently. > >"do not swallow. children under 6 years of age should use only a >pea-sized amount and be supervised while brushing" > >-wronskian >From: Graydon Hoare >To: LUH 3417 >Subject: bolsheviks and bratwurst >Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 13:10:06 -0500 > >yes, I'm afraid I'll be without the joy of belling this term as >well. My last algebra mark was a scant 7 % above the 50 and I worked >my fanny off for that. My consolation is that even if I have to take >all 4 of my current courses again next year, I will *never* have to >take another course with the algebraic sadist I spent the last 2 terms >with. I love the topic dearly, but he really didn't want anyone there >who wasn't willing to face the wrath of khan and the 9th circle of h-e >double-hockey-sticks in order to enjoy a moment's basking in the >symmetries of the dihedral-6 group. > >kyoto and its restaurant will surely last till your retirement. >japanese aesthetics are da bomb. My favourite visual design is >the japanese swan motif with the wings curled up into a circular >variant. I could look at that all day. some things about japan are >questionable; their restaurants and artwork are not. > >I believe if you find yourself actually staring at a welding torch, >you will have much more serious visual problems than the mere fusing >of contact lenses. Perhaps welding should be left for sometime with >less distracting (and hazardous) workload. Do you have a scrabble kit? >I need to work some tonight and tomorrow daytime to make money for >rent and reading week. Am going to montreal to visit some german >hackers I've recruited.. what are your evenings like this week? > >-gleemonex morphosyntactic automaton 403 >From: Graydon Hoare >To: lowercase M >Subject: basement hovels >Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 16:20:27 -0500 > >ok, I'll come raid diabolos after my pacing russian guy stops pacing >and darts out of his differentials class, shaking and muttering to >himself. that will be, um, sometime shortly after 11.. I can't stay >long tho. jserv and webslinger aren't working yet and I need to kick >them (or whisper sultry suggestions in their ears) until they start >playing nice. > >as for incompleteness, it could be a few different things. First off, >it could be a feeling of ennui or spiritual emptyness which >accompanies a long day of seemingly useful, but strangely >dissatisfying activity. A feeling that the world, however nice, is >just somehow missing the one thing you have been looking for. > >on the second hand, it could be you're talking about incompleteness of >a normed vector space, like an n-dimensional set of the real numbers >or something. In that case, incompleteness is the absence of >completeness, which is the property that any cauchy sequence converges >to a point in the space. A cauchy sequence being any sequence a[i] where >there exist M, N > 0 such that > >m > M, n > N => |a[m] - a[n]| > |a[m+1] - a[n + 1]| > >i.e. elements in the sequence are getting closer together. Most useful >spaces are complete. In fact, the reals are just a completion of the >rationals. you just take sequences of rationals, and you take all >limits of (infinite) cauchy sequences of rationals, and that's the >reals. > >On the third hand (the so called "gripping hand") you could be >referring the the very famous incompleteness, which is a property >which kurt godel exhibited the space of first order predicate formulae >to posess way back in the misty days of 1931, thus making david >hilbert extremely angry. > >the idea is that you're trying to prove that something similar to >arithmetic (predicate formulae in this case) is complete, i.e. that >you can definitely prove any formula which happens to be true with >respect to your axioms. Unfortunately it turns out if you are working >with a countably infinite set with only finite axioms, you can encode >the formula combinators (the sematic objects which combine formulas to >form new ones, like conjunction, negation, existential qualification, >etc) as terms themselves (for instance by allocating the first N >numbers to refer to your combinators, and shifting all the other >numbers down N entries) in a new set of formulae. Most importantly to >the incompleteness theorem, you can encode the statement "this >statement cannot be verified" as a sequence of terms, which you must >then attempt to verify using the normal axioms. If you were to >successfully verify it, the statement is false, which implies a >contradiction, since no statement can simultaneously be verifiable and >nonverifiable (this is an assumption you need to grant to your axioms, >which most people assume math & set theory to posess). therefore it >must be true, which means it must be unverifiable. But it is encoded >in mathematics, so there exist formulae which are unverifiable but >still true. > >it's kinda a cheap trick, but the guy got a lot of people steamed, >including alonzo church and alan turing. turing was also sorta mad >because he was homosexual and it was illegal in england at the time, >but this just made matters worse. then the war broke out, and, well.. > >fizzzzzzzzzzz. >for my next trick. I approach the bed. will I arrive, or just >converge? > > >From: Graydon Hoare >To: labrat >Subject: offending the french >Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:45:23 -0500 (EST) > >ooooohhhh... you are so wrong about the bicycle of eternal friction. all >you have to do is go as hard as you possibly can with some real fast >techno as inspiration for > 25 minutes and all of a sudden a lovely >shimmering blue euphoria takes over.. oh lordy, it's a warm summer >afternoon in my head :) I think I shall go and sit myself within >grabajaba and sip some of their mint tea, and see if I can make heads or >tails of this multilinear integration handout we got. ackoglu seemed >genuinely impressed with himself and he writes good handouts. if you want >to take a break from lab prep I might be there for an hour or so. > >no, we never got to play scrabble. have you been down to cafe sopro >sotto? they have a fine scrabble kit and let you play 24 hours a day in a >very livingroomy setting while they feed you cake. > >You'd probably enjoy montreal, it's not too bad as towns go. very cheap >rent, and nice people (except those who consider you a cockroach for being >anglo). wine's cheap and corner-store accessible, the parks are about >average, but it has a large pagan drumming festival every sunday in the >summer, with much dancing and tomfoolery. And of course, they make good >bagels. > >-blzf 22 > >From: Graydon Hoare >To: pinky curruthers >Subject: the turntables might wobble but they don't fall down >Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 16:17:29 -0500 > >I enjoyed having my ass whupped in scrabble, and ensuing conversation; >perhaps I'll be back sooner rather than later in the week. will you be >about on or after wednesday? I think allo stop has a return ride then. > >you're right about the cold going for the lungs -- although I have >begun to sneeze now, I kinda like sneezing in a strange way. it's more >exciting than just a hacking cough. > >I'll keep my eyes open for the criminally insane and the mallards. or >the criminal mallards. >From: Graydon Hoare >Reply-To: Graydon Hoare >To: repo girl >Subject: rusty the chicken >Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:31:38 -0500 (EST) > >I am checking sporadically my mail, although the connection is a little >inconvenient and there's an adorable 17month old here to keep my >attention. I arrived safely after suffering the wrath of 200 decibel queen >and russian disco, and interminable inane conversation from 2 driving >buddies, and 2 hours trudging through the cold to locate my yhost who >decided to go out barhopping and specify only a vague semblance of the >part of town he'd be in. ah well, ya get whatcha pay for. am getting over >the sickness after coughing up a walleye and 2 muskrats. stefan and I are >making great progress and soon the entire world will tremble at the >awesomeness and funktasticality of the code which flows from the minds of >berlin! stefan has also taught me a couple interesting things about the >curvature of space and the tautological nature of gravitation when >modeled as a wave. I'm not sure I understand but I nodded my head. > >I sent you a special present, I hope you get it. > >-g > >From: Graydon Hoare >To: finnagan >Subject: towel, check. chicken, check. varsol, check. >Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:50:44 -0500 > >I find the notion of slot car racing, only with gigantic slot cars ten >or twelve feet high, unspeakably exciting. I don't really know why. > >ps I'm at home now ya silly git, there's no need to type! >From: Graydon Hoare >To: cosmobimbo@hotmail.com >Subject: hardy oregano >Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:22:22 -0500 > >after exhaustive anagramatical analysis, it appears that your name can >most amusingly be rearranged to spell > >"sniff cat's rear" > >some other notable contenders for the top slot: > >fairness craft >facts refrains >faces ran first >fran cries fast >fire ants scarf (or fine arts scarf) >sniff rat races >friar fans sect >far finest scar >staffer in cars >stiff near scar >can fear firsts > >If you include "marie" the list becomes somewhat enormous, and I >haven't sorted through all of them. there's a lot of good words in >there though. >From: Graydon Hoare >To: cosmobimbo@hotmail.com >Subject: the wind in the grass >Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 21:56:12 -0500 > >I *really* enjoy waking up next to you, even if it means we never get >anything accomplished and my teeth fall out and I get aches and >pains. and that is what I have to say. >how did tutoring go? > >-g > >From: Graydon Hoare >To: Trudgel Frunken Poose Pucker >Subject: Gozerith von Armwold >Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 21:21:55 -0500 > >you are the chiggiest scrom I've ever licked beneath the moof. It >pleases me to know your star monks are virulent, and moreover the time >has come to say roe blad. So ish reinfully and mark 2 dates on your >torrid rug peel: the finks of jova, and the ides of susp. Coming for >you, am I. > >the challenge is set in liquidex and rubber stamped. > >-wuw moon vanj >