Mouthpiece Clocking

 

I was introduced to the concept of "clocking" in 1998 by jazz trombone master Steve Turre during an afternoon “hang” when he was in my town for a concert. It was an ear-opening experience.

 

My best description of the concept is this:

Some people believe that the way your mouthpiece sits in your horn

affects the way you sound playing it.

That’s the simple explanation. It should really have a number of footnotes about “your mouthpiece”, “your horn”, and “sound”. I’ll get to these issues below.

 

Much of what is written here was originally posted the the Trombone-L Discussion List in late ’98 by myself and Dr. Wayne Dyess (Professor of Music, Lamar University ) of Beaumont, TX. I’d like to thank Wayne for allowing me to reprint his “take” on the subject.

 

Someone wrote in to the Trombone List a question:

“Someone told me about something called ‘mouthpiece clocking’. I didn’t really understand it. What is it?”

 

I wrote in a reply that the basic premise of the “mouthpiece clocking” concept is this:

 

A brass player experiments with:

1) Their horn, being played by

2) Themselves, with

3) Their own REGULAR mouthpiece (the one they play all or most of the time)- placed in different positions (these are kept track of by using a reference point on the mouthpiece and moving it into different positions by systematically rotating and repositioning the mouthpiece- like the movement of a clock’s hand).

 

During the discussion on clocking (most of which was VERY skeptical), someone  wrote:

>> Does anyone have a favored "clock" position for their mouthpiece?

 

This was a good question, because it gets right to the heart of the matter.

There is NO standard clocking position.

The sound for each position is unique to the three variables of:

(1)   player,

(2)   horn, and

(3) mouthpiece (with it’s varied positions).

 

Again, the main thing to understand about this concept is that each player's "good" or “interesting” clocking position will be DIFFERENT!

Even two mouthpieces of the same make and model played by the same person on the same horn will get differing results!

 

Keeping #1 & #2 the same, you experiment with #3 until you find a sound (and corresponding position) which you like. You can do this by yourself, or enlist the help of other people to give you feedback on your sound. If you do find a certain “clocked” position makes a difference in your sound, take care to place the mouthpiece back in that same position every time you play. Or you may find that there is a “clocked” position that gives you a brighter sound which you like for playing big band lead, while there is also a “darker” position which you prefer for solo playing. So you can take note of these and use them for their purposes.

 

Why and how can these different “clocked” positions affect your sound?

The concept is this: NO mouthpiece, instrument is perfect in its dimensions, especially that of roundness. While the cup and throat of a mouthpiece may appear perfectly round to the eye (or even to the computer which may have been used to create it), it is in fact NOT perfectly round. There is some variation in it’s shape at points; therefore, the vibrations of your buzzing through the instrument will find slightly (if incredibly small) varied paths through your horn. This will affect the sound, even though it might be an imperceptible or very slight difference.

 

This practice of “clocking” has its believers and non-believers.

Do I personally believe that mouthpiece position can alter a sound?

Yes.

 

Does that mean I can always hear a difference in others employing the "clocking" technique?

No.

 

But I can definitely hear a difference in MY sound because of it.

I could hear a difference in Steve Turre’s sound because of it. And Steve Turre is a living master of jazz trombone. What does that tell you? I think it says that there probably IS something to this “clocking” business.

Or else it could mean that brass players can be as superstitious and obsessive-compulsive with their equipment as baseball players are with their bats.

 

We are all the best judges of our own sound.

If you try clocking and like the results, fine!

If you try it and have no idea if it makes a difference or not-- forget it.

 

Christo

 

 

 

Dr. Wayne Dyess: I had been actively involved with the Trombone List for just over a year in late 1998, and I don't recall having seen a discussion before then on the topic of "MOUTHPIECE CLOCKING."  It was a new one on me, for sure.

Perhaps you'll find this little story interesting.  I do.

 

The college where I teach put on a fall jazz concert in November 1998, and prior to the concert we rehearsed with our guest artist -- Dennis Dotson, formerly with the Woody Herman Orchestra.  After rehearsal, Dennis stayed around to listen to our symphonic band rehearsal and commented favorably on our matched set of

Bach 16's in the trombone section and matched Mt. Vernon's in the cornet section.  After rehearsal, he wanted to loosen up some, so I took him to an ensemble room where he could blow to his heart's content.  We talked some, and he told me he was taking lessons with one of the Houston Symphony trumpet players and related something he found really interesting -- "mouthpiece clocking", he called it.

 

Intrigued, I asked him to explain that concept to me.  He said, "I'll do

better than that.  I'll show ya." 

 

So he took his mouthpiece out to show me the Vincent Bach inscription on it, and said “I'll play a few notes of the overtone series for you with this "V" in the 12:00 position” (which he did). 

 

It sounded like Dennis, yep.  Then, he proceeded to work his

way from 12:00 o'clock, then 3, 6, 9, and back again. 

 

I was amazed that I could indeed tell a difference, though somewhat subtle, in his tone. One place seemed bright to me; at the opposite end, more mellow.  I couldn't wait to go give it a try myself.

 

But on my way to my office, I decided to try it on our trumpet

professor.  No, he'd never heard of it.  I explained it; he tried it --

it was obvious that a change in sound was there.  But interestingly, the mouthpiece didn't FEEL different.  I went to my office and played a few notes at each place on the mouthpiece.  Since mine says Conn 5GR, I placed 12:00 o'clock at the "C" and worked from there.  I didn't feel a difference until I started adding in the pedal register.  Then, "Bingo" -- I felt it.

 

This is an easy experiment that EVERYONE from beginner to the most seasoned pro can try.

 

Mouthpiece clocking, according to Dennis and his teacher, is yet one

more variable that one can control.  There are so many variables that we can't control (like acoustics of the hall, for instance).

 

A year and a half since I was introduced to the idea, mouthpiece “clocking” is something that I continue to do.  Not with regularity, however.  And yes, it is a bit on the obsessive side.  But if I am having a "bad" day (don't we all?), then every little grain of

advantage is welcomed.

 

For me, I don't necessarily hear a difference.  But I can FEEL it.

Most definitely.  My low register seems to work better if I'm clocked

in a consistent place.

 

Wayne Dyess

 

 

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