Ornette Coleman Mailing List

Frequently Asked Questions
(a presumptuous heading considering these were written before any questions were asked)

ONElist

This Particular List

The Man

 

What is ONElist?
ONElist is a web based mailing list company that simplifies running and joining lists. There are advantages and disadvantages to this system, as compared to such traditional list organizations as Majordomo and Listserve. Request procedures are not arcane, but do not allow for as many options. There is a shared file area where list members can download files provided by other members, which is a great idea. There is a two line text ad at the bottom of every message, which I don't find intrusive.

How can I subscribe and unsubscribe?
The standard subscription procedure is to go the ONElist homepage and search for the list you want. For this particular list, you can go directly to the Ornette sign-up page . If you haven't yet registered, you will need to fill out a user profile, giving as much information as you wish to. Then, after you respond to a confirmation email, you are an Ornette List member. To unsubscribe, log in at the ONElist homepage , and use the checkbox. An alternate and more traditional method is to send mail to:

Can I see a list of list members?
Go to the ONElist homepage , log in, click on Ornette, and then on Member Profiles. Click on a person's email name to see the details they have given the list

Who is this list for?
The Ornette Coleman mailing list is for anyone interested in the music and art of Ornette Coleman. I would hope list members would include musicians, avid fans, and casual listeners. I would also hope for contributions from those who were at the Five Spot in 1959, and those who have only recently become aware of him. I would be especially pleased if some Coleman colleagues were to become members.

What topics are germane to this list?
Anything concerning Ornette's music, life, or philosophy is germane here. It should be entirely acceptable for threads to include his influences and associates, ranging from Don Cherry to Geri Allen to Buckminster Fuller. However,  it would be nice if subjects don't dwell too far from the core, e.g. Joujoukan marriage customs or Jerry Garcia's tie designs.

Is this list moderated?
I plan on keeping a loose rein on the direction of the list, but reserve the right to step in should the conversations get nasty and childish. This scenario occasionally has happened on other lists I subscribe to, though I would hope it will not here.

Can I send attachments with my messages?
To keep message size down, I have decided not to allow attachments in the list messages. Any sent will be deleted before delivery. However, ONElist does have a "shared files" service which allows list members to send files to the list's website, where they can be accessed by any list members. This can be especially nice for someone who wants to share pictures they have taken of Ornette, or, in a discussion of harmolodic theory, wishes to post some musical notation or a short sound file of their performance to use as an example. One adding shared files should make notice of them to the list members. Obviously, copywrited material that the poster does not have permission to use would not be allowable. Because there is a 5 mb total limit to shared files, I would delete older files, unless they seem particularly valuable, to make room for new. To access the shared files, log in, click Ornette, and then click shared files.

Can I use this list to trade live Ornette tapes?
I would suppose that Ornette would not approve of people taping his music and distributing it with out his permission, even if they make no profit from it. So unless he personally states that it is okay, this list is not a proper venue for bootleg exchange.

Can I use this list to sell Ornette related material?
ONElist policy is to not allow spam, which it describes as unsolicited commercial email. I would not take this to cover a list member who has put up, for example, the "Man on the Moon" Impulse! 45 for auction on eBay. I would expect list members to welcome the chance to be aware of opportunities for the acquisition of Ornette related items.

How can I get a hold of the list owner?
You can write me at ornette-owner@onelist.com

Who is Ornette Coleman?
Ornette Coleman is one of jazz's great innovators. Born in Fort Worth, Texas in 1930, he is largely self taught, and while through experience with various R&B and jazz bands, as well as book studies of theory, he gained much knowledge and style, his viewpoint is his own. Hitting New York in 1959, he revolutionized jazz, showing a freedom that few had been aware of. He has written  symphonies, and after an experience playing with Algerian musicians in 1972, he formed, Prime Time, an electric unit that exists to this day. Longer biographical sketches can be found at David Wild's Wild Pages (a version of which was originally printed in Wild's 1982 Ornette Coleman Discography), The New Jazz Archives, All About Jazz, and The Europe Jazz Network. John Litweiler has written a biography, "Ornette Coleman:A Harmolodic Life". Though out of print, it is worth searching out. Recently  released in the U.S. is "Ornette Coleman : His Life and Music", by Peter Niklas Wilson, from Berkeley Hills Books. Also available on the web are two Coleman articles originally published in The Atlantic Monthly, one by Robert Palmer from 12/72, the other by Francis Davis from 9/85.

Does Ornette have a website of his own?
Yes he does. It is at http://www.harmolodic.com .I don't know how much direct input he has into it. I do know it is rarely updated.

What is Harmolodics?
Harmolodics is less a set of musical rules than a description of the way Ornette Coleman sees life. I don't have a very good understanding, and what I do understand, I have difficulty describing. It has a lot to do with relativity, and in the music area, everything is in the moment, and nothing has any more importance than anything else. Melody, harmony, and rhythm are equal. At any moment, a note can be the root of a chord, the 3rd of another, the flatted 5th of another, etc. The one beat can be the three beat of another cadence. If musicians are well enough in tune with each other they can play what they will, and it will all fit together. For Ornette it is easy. For most others, it is hard. I hope to replace this definition with a better one from anyone who is able to articulate one.

Where can I find a list of Ornette's recordings?
Robert Stubenrauch has done a pretty complete, if not deep, online Coleman discography.He also has done a Blood Ulmer discography . His friend Johann Haidenburger has put up Don Cherry discography. George Scalla has made discographies of David Izenzon, Jamaladeen Tacuma, Ed Blackwell, and Charles Moffett.

Why doesn't (record company name here) re-release (Ornette lp title here) on cd?
Ornette himself has the rights to many of the recordings that were released over the years. As far as I know, Sony has the rights to the early 70's Columbia albums. I imagine Paul Bley has the rights to the IAI title. I do not know who has the rights to the Trio title. Ornette has the rights to the Impulse, Caravan of Dreams, and Artist House titles. He has (or had) a deal with Verve to release cd's on his Harmolodic label, and has put out reissues of some of his older records, but has stated that he has more interest in releasing new material than old. You can find out what is in print and order online from many vendors. One is Amazon.

 

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