IKRAM UL HAQS HOME PAGE CONSISTS OF REACTIONS TO THE PRESENT Pakistani political SCENE. SOME VIEWS MIGHT BE BIASED OR UNACCEPTABLE IN YOUR VIEW BUT THAT IS POLITICS. THERE ARE ALWAYS TWO SIDES TO A COIN AS THERE ARE DIFFERING VIEWS ON ALL POLITICAL SUBJECTS.AN HONEST AND OPEN ATTEMPT IS BEING MADE TO GIVE INTERPRETATIONS VIS A VIS THE COUNTRIES POLITICS, ITS LEADERS AND PRESS. YOUR REACTIONS ARE ALWAYS WELCOME AND IT WOULD BE IN THE BEST INTEREST THAT THEY BE SHORT AND TO THE POINT AND REFER TO THE ITEM BEING DISCUSSED, CRITIQUED OR OPPOSED OR SUPPORTED. ..IKRAM UL HAQ

MIR Lashkari - 11/08/00 08:25:36
My Email:tribeconnection@usa.net
Country of origin: pakistan
Country living in: pak
Occupation: adminstration
Would u like a response: ya
Political Ideology: libral
PPP/PMLn/OTHER: ppp

Comments:
hi! im Mir , i saw in cia,s web site, it said that women are sold in pakistan, it was a surprised that it is not true,it is other way round i have seen on TV that women are sold in USA and Europe.Sorry to say, it is a propaganda against third world contries.

Ikram Ul haq - 07/28/00 22:10:11
My Email:ihaq1@isb.paknet.com.pk
Country of origin: Malawi
Country living in: Pakistan
Would u like a response: Not necessary

Comments:
These are the comments in response to Irfan whose opinion is below this I think that it is u who is indophobic and pro army notme. I am a realistic person. I see an an enemy as an enemy and a friend as a friend.Dushman ke ghar koi kahin bhi roti phoonk phoonk ke hi khaye ga. Our army whatever its strengths is our army and it is what protects us from the brute power of all enemies be they india...Our army has failed miserably in the past but we exist and they serve us no matter from positions of strength or weakness. Friendship with india is possible but not on the vajpayee te ms of abject humiliation that was nawaz sharifs goal. When india realizes that kashnmir needs tobe given to pakistan(a peaceful solution) or the problems will continue one way or the other whether we like it or not. The problems are not because of pakista but are caused by india. One does not close ones eyes like a misguided pigeon when the cat is close by. Or one cannot depend on the indian army or any indian leader for protection. That we have to do ourselves thru our army and ourselves. If we lose our nner resolve than than we loose all strengths.Friendship not at the cost of humiliation or at the cost of backing away from a realistic solution on kashmir. Problems are never resolved when one becomes frightened of brute force or the inordinate size of t e enemy. The army is a necessity as it is in all countries even those that are at peace. One can critisize the army for its faults but forget the need for it. Faults are there amongst us all as a people as politicians and as faujis. But we cannot love an enemy and hate our selves. And after all the army is a reflection of how many amongst us feel and behave. personal feelings matter very little in hese things Sorry for the lateness of the reply. please feel free to comment whenever u can Ikram Ul Haq

Irfan - 02/27/00 07:34:41
My Email:iahmed@bayou.uh.edu
Country of origin: Pakistan
Country living in: USA
Occupation: student
Would u like a response: don't care
Political Ideology: People's power
PPP/PMLn/OTHER: I hate army!

Comments:
Dear Ikram, your views are that of a typical khaki who believes that one pakistani soldier is equal to 10 indian soldiers. For the last 50 years the khakis and the estabilishment in pakistan wants the people to live in fools paradise. you are one of an unfortunate victim of pro-estabilishment, conformist mentality. no matter how hard you try to avoid it, but the fact is that india is our neighbour. and it is a big neighbour. it is not possible to subdue it since it is several times larger in all aspects compare to pakistan. and it is not wise to live in a neighbourhood, picking up fight with a strong man. So before you advocate war with india think about our children and their children to come. what kind of pakistan we will give to them? a pakistan in ruines? I agree we should not let india dictate us. but we cannot live in this hostile atmosphere and grow economically witout having cordial relations with our neighbour. india will understand once we are strong and have good reputation in the world. india will be good to us since its against their interest to have bad relations with us. Before you blame Nawaz shairf you have to understand that he is the product of the previous martial law. it was the army who flourished him and gave him power so he can kick bhuttos ass. its accurate to blame army for the mess nawaz created while in power. army in pakistan is like a spoilt brat. since 1950's its playing its dirty games on civilians. it always break rules whenever it feels like. nawaz did what he was trained to do. he looted the country just like its mentor, the army. pakistan has never experienced continuous democracy. every democratic governement always falled short of its designated period due to army's sinisters design. previously there was 8th amendment destroying the true meaning of democracy and now its the illegal, immoral coup. how can our army expect to place everything in order when itself came in power destroying the system? how can it expect a pakistani citizen to follow the rule of law when itself broke the sacred law of the people? thismusical chair resulted in the breaking of pakistan. only God know how long pakistan will keep itself intact with this repeated coups. you said that people in pakistan will carry the legacy of unstability. yes , if the people want pakistan to be like a new afganistan or somalia, then they have choosen the right path. if they want to be like next asian tiger then they are bound to fail and this time there will be no "yahood-o-hunnod" sazish to blame. it will there own fault. thats why i feel sorry for my people when i see them supporting the coup. they havn't learn anything and it a long long way to go before they come to their senses. a democratic process no matter how bogus it is, has an inherent system of accountibility. now there is no law to stop the army from plundering the country. nawaz did'nt come to power by an act of god. he was elected by the people. and in democratic process people make mistakes. but they learn from their past mistakes. to ensure better clean government this learnig process should continue. ultimately people are victorious in democracy. but in pakistan people are the biggest loosers since democracy is never respected by the army and the estabilishment. they will be fooled time and again until they realize that army is their biggest enemy. i dont see that coming in the near future. i am surprised you consider me and indian. can you expect an indian to shed tears for pakistan? this again proves that you are typical indophobic, brainwashed by the media and mullahs and the garbage taught in Pakistan Studies. i will never live like a ignorant pakistani like you suggested in your letter. sincerely Irfan

Ikram Ul Haq - 02/12/00 22:15:51
My Email:ihaq@paknet2.ptc.pk
Country of origin: Pakistan
Country living in: Pakistan
Occupation: Electrical Engineer
Would u like a response: Not necessarily
Political Ideology: Left of center
PPP/PMLn/OTHER: PPP

Comments:
This a response to the comments of irfan ahmed which u can also read on this page Hi irfan Your views are the views of a typical indians. As pakistanis we cannot forget kashmir and obviously cannot be friendly with a country that does not understand friendship. That was what Nawaz Sharif was attempting and found that the indians actually wanted his and pakistans.....The indians think that friendship means accepting their total dominance in everything. Domestic politics, external affairs and they even want us to support particular politicians.As an independent country one has to stand up for something that we consider important. The indians will never be good to us whatever we do or say. Therefore the best way is to adopt clear poloicies and follow them. nawaz Sharif failed because he did not follow or believe in democratic ideals. He just kept on attempting to subdue everyone and finally the army could take it no more. while army rule is not considred good it is much better than nawaz sharifs rule which was deteriorating into a one family govt at all levels. There was no democracy as all decisions were made by nawaz or his father and the PMLn parliamentarians just enjoyed life as they had no role to play. The army has already found out that they can at best effect things to a limited extent and obviously they will have to allow some democratic process sooner or later. A smooth change in govt can only occur when politicians in power understand that it is the epitome of democracy to give up power and call elections when everyone is fed up . Nawaz didnt understand tha just as previous rulers didnt. If nawaz had been a democrat even to the extent of being able to talk to the opposition and create a conducive atmosphere for everyone to participate than the situation would never have gotten to this stage. But he became a dictator and refused to understand that teh situation would lead to a coup. Now the army is in power and they too are from amongst us and will eventually return pakistan to its people hopefully this time in one piece. Otherwise they too will go the way of other rulers in pakistan because as a peopel we are politically volatile and donot tolerate anyone beyond their time or usability or responsibility. That is teh way of pakistan its people, its politicians and its army. Win or loose we will always remain so . Until there is one thinking brain left there will always be conflict and oppositions and challenges to govt whatever form it takes. We have learnt to live with that and so should u ie if u are a pakistani. If u are an indian than it does not matter to us Ikram Ul Haq

Saeed Malik - 01/11/00 12:43:30
My Email:autiq@yahoo.de
Country of origin: Pakistan
Country living in: Germany
Occupation: Student
Political Ideology: Democratic
PPP/PMLn/OTHER: none of them all are too currupt

Comments:
I need a simple information about the ISI but nothing is to find anywhere. I want to apply in this branch. I would be grateful if you could arrange the address and the person who is responsible for applicants in ISI. Thanks. Regards Saeed Malik

irfan - 10/18/99 08:35:22
My Email:iahmed@bayou.uh.edu
Country of origin: pakistan
Country living in: usa
Occupation: student
Would u like a response: yes
Political Ideology: layman
PPP/PMLn/OTHER: myself

Comments:
where are we heading to? we are entering 21st century with a system even looked down upon by acient greeks! i am ashamed to call myself a pakistani. its better if i call myself an indian. at least there is some dignity left in that country. our rogue army after poking its nose in afganistan, kashmir, chechnia, and even assam, has return back to its past time hobby. playing musical chairs! i saw the speech on-line. well what do you expect from a thief who wants to justify his action? you get the same story over and over again. what really bothers me is that the liberal elements of our media are supporting this. i never expected najam sethi the friday times editor to support the coup. salahuddin has gone as far as questioning the use of democracy! what a shame! our people are too reactionary to see the whole picture. when are the going to realize the fatality of army rule? how many martial laws will take to convience them? can't they see that its the army who creates corrupt politicians and its the same rougues who removes them? no matter how corrupt and inefficient sharif was i was satsfied that at least there was democracy. now i have nothing to look up to. now what? what choices does army has? if it imprisons sharif, he'll become a hero. if they show him the rope he'll be a shaheed. in either case he will survive and will return to plunder again. then we'll have another round of musical chair. i think i will not going to see even a single smooth transfer of power in my life. only way we can stop this musical chairs is to change our views reguarding pakistan. have friendly relations with india. cut down the military budget and spend that on country development. forget kashmir. concentrate on pakistan first. or else there won't be a pakistan left. but how r we going to do that? elections , thats the only way out. but in the presence of army how can we expect elections? only some devine help can take us out of this mess. Irfan Ahmed U.S.A.

Ikram Ul Haq - 07/16/99 08:00:02
My Email:ihaq@paknet2.ptc.pk
Country of origin: pakistan
Country living in: pakistan
Occupation: running this site
Would u like a response: not necessary
Political Ideology: liberal social democrat

Comments:
Hi ashraf such situations have to be tackled and the negative attitudes of mohajirs changed to one of coexistence and peaceful solution of interprovincial, inter ethnic politics. Sindhis are generally very congenial people and the mohajirs used to be quite nice in the pre altaf days. However when political animosity turns to madness than situations such as those in karachi emerge. The situation is much better now and the various ethnic groups are turning towards issues rather than attempting to eliminate each other and hopefully a peaceful atmosphere will return to sind which existed in the days before zia emerged on the political scene Ikram Ul Haq

SAFINA KAUSAR - 05/12/99 09:17:57
My URL:http://www.angelfire.com
My Email:ammerud@angelfire.com
Country of origin: Pakistan
Country living in: Norway
Occupation: Student
Would u like a response: YES

Comments:
HELLO IKRAM UL HAQ HAVE A NICE DAY AND KEEP SMILING

bob vanwagenen - 10/12/98 16:41:36
My Email:violet0365@aol.com
Country of origin: cambodia
Country living in: canada
Occupation: nose picker
Would u like a response: yep
Political Ideology: revolutionists
PPP/PMLn/OTHER: yup

Comments:
i hate boogers....that's why i pick them out. i like my job.

huangola huellermino - 10/12/98 16:40:13
My Email:sktlflrt@aol.com
Country of origin: pakistan
Country living in: albania
Occupation: neurosurgen
Would u like a response: of course
Political Ideology: communist
PPP/PMLn/OTHER: i support the communist

Comments:
this means war!

Irfan AHmed - 07/25/98 02:24:57
My Email:irfan@cs.uh.edu
Country of origin: pakistan
Country living in: USA
Occupation: student
Would u like a response: yes
Political Ideology: liberal democrat
PPP/PMLn/OTHER: none at this time

Comments:
When two elephants are blood thirsty, it is advisable not to come in between them. In Karachi the two elephants are MQM and the Army. Both of them are in a state of war since the early '90s. People of Karachi have no place to hide from the clashes that erupt frequently. So in the end they are the biggest losers. In my opinion MQM is 90% responsible for the current situation. The party which wins election with a sweeping majority is unable to control the situation is unbelievable. By just looking at the past performance of this party, one can easily see how incompetent its leadership is.I have seen the rise and thefall of MQM and I can say with full conviction that this party has done nothing substantial to solve the people's misery. In fact its leaders are involved in armed robberies and extortion from the poor people of Karachi,just to raise their party revenue. All this party has proven to the country is that Mohajirs are as corrupt as any other ethnic group. People say that agencies are responsible for the killings that are going on. I wonder why agencies are concentrating in specific areas of Karachi like Liaquatabad, Malir, Korangi, Landhi, Shah Faisal colony etc. What about Gulshan-e-Iqbal, Bahadurabad, Society, Clifton etc? Why aren’t agencies killing people in these localities? The answer is that the armed goons of MQM have their power base mostly in District Central and District East and most of the clashes are occurring in these regions. It is impossible even to dream about peace in the presence of such notorious elements in Karachi politics. Army and intelligence agencies are just taking advantage of the helplessness of Karachiites. They are pose to destroy the Frankenstein they have created. In my opinion the only way Karachi’s situation can improve is by either dissolving MQM or changing its manifesto which is currently based on racism.

From Site host - 05/10/98 11:57:18

Comments:
This is in response to Irfan Ahmed hi Irfan It was nice to hear from u. Politics is the art of differentiating between crooks. And if u happen tobe in politics and are accused of being a crook than the art of fighting bac and clearing your name is also politics. My site might help in some small way in the understanding of pakistani politics. Anyway under present cicumstances the crooks are Benazir and Asif which puts u squarely in the PMLn camp or if u belong to karachi in the MQM camp. In politics it is important to pick a side and than defend and help that side. That is what politics is all about. Whether all politicians are crooks is debateable. Hope to continu hearing from u. Ikram Ul Haq

Irfan Ahmed - 05/05/98 03:10:39
My URL:http://geocities.datacellar.net/SiliconValley/Heights/2226/
My Email:irfan@cs.uh.edu
Country of origin: Pakistan
Country living in: USA
Occupation: student
Would u like a response: yeah
Political Ideology: liberal democrat
PPP/PMLn/OTHER: can't support crooks

Comments:
I have no comments. I am totally hopeless with pakistan's current situation.

Ikram Ul Haq - 11/29/97 14:44:40
Occupation: Site Host

Comments:
Everyone please note:
if u want a response than please leave your email address and I will try to give a detailed response. however this is not a news site and only comments on major political events in pakistans present day politics. Also I am not a political scientist and my views are not scientific or educative but reactions and to some extent personal. It is not intended to hurt anyone but one is inclined towards reason , reality and concern for the truth to some extent. It wud be of immense interest to read reactions to my comments. Ikram ul Haq

Joshua Nadeem - 10/17/97 16:25:47
Country of origin: America
Country living in: America
Occupation: Student
Would u like a response: YES
Political Ideology: Secret Dealing

Comments:
Hello I am Joshua Nadeem, I would like to know about the secret dealing of missles and ammunition Pakistan does.

Habib - 10/17/97 16:21:20
Country of origin: America
Country living in: Pa
Occupation: Horse Racing
Would u like a response: YES

Comments:
I love Pakistan,I think you should have more news. Can you please send me at my home.

CArmen Chiari - 10/14/97 00:32:28
My Email:cchiari@lindenwood.edu
Country of origin: Panama
Country living in: U.S.
Occupation: student
Would u like a response: Yes
Political Ideology: democracy

Comments:
I would like to know more about Pakistan's social-politics ideology, culture, etc. for my International Management class.

Naveed Qureishi - 10/05/97 00:33:42
My Email:nqureishi@aol.com
Country of origin: Pakistan
Country living in: USA
Occupation: Systems Analyst
Would u like a response: Yes
Political Ideology: Neutral

Comments:
Good information

Ikram ul haq - 09/22/97 15:44:56
Country of origin: Pakistan
Country living in: Pakistan
Occupation: site producer
Would u like a response: response to the message below this one

Comments:
Thank u for visiting my site. U are obviously totally unaware of the countrys politics. By major i only mean the people who are most active in the countries politics. Altaf hussain is a controversial figure but not directly involved in politics at the moment. He is however involved in underground activities in karachi which is a tiny part of the country. He is not an elected mna or mpa or even a councillor.He is also not a beaurocrat or general.He is just an unemployed chemist who ran away from the country when the going got tough. He had previously escaped to the USA which sent him back. He is not even the head of any political party in the country. He is however famous for a lot of criminal activity in karachi which is obviously not politics. When altaf returns to the country and participates in the elective process personally only than will he become a politician. At the moment he is only the leader of the lower to middle income group of indian immigrants generally settled in and around karachi whom he controls by violence and murder. He has no support in the rest of the country. He is also included in the corrupt of the country as despite having no sources of wealth he is living in england for the past several years in relative affluence. There are also numerous reports about altafs involvement in bhatta rackets, robberies and dacoities. We wud welcome his open participation in politics but only if he returns to pakistan and faces the numerous charges that have arisen from his overt and covert activities. At the moment altaf is just a phantom and tele leader of the MQM with no relevance or importance to others. His coalition with the govt also shows that his concern for any particular cause is just facial and not real.I wud refer u to the recent statement of ishtiaq azhar the former convenor of MQM activities in which he categorically blame's altaf for everything that has happened in karachi. Meaning that the mazloom is himself the zalim as well as the mujrim. Ikram ul Haq

name not given - 09/22/97 15:41:17
My Email:intlsec@netcomuk.co.uk
Country of origin: probably pakistan
Country living in: U.K
Political Ideology: ethnic
PPP/PMLn/OTHER: MQM

Comments:
This comment was received by email

Dear Mr. Ikram Ul Haque: I was recently going through your page and came across the section where you have named the major political figures of the country. May I remind you that most the names in your list are not political or one cannot even consider them major by any means. On the other hand my presumption is that you have deliberately left out some of the key political figures of the country. To give an example take Mr. Altaf Hussain, the Founder Leader of the MQM. Mr. Hussain has been playing a very vital and key role in the politics of the country, he is the only one in the country who enjoys the support of the masses and speaks for the middle class people of the country. Furthermore, he is the only one who has been bold enough to challenge the feudal, ruling elite and the corrupt Establishment for their misdeeds. I sincerely hope that you will make amends in the list.


kami - 09/12/97 08:33:45
Country of origin: pakistan
Country living in: pakistan
Occupation: electrical engineer
Would u like a response: no
Political Ideology: None
PPP/PMLn/OTHER: PPP

Comments:
Your site is very interesting indeed. Could u however find something to support in the present govts policies. U seem to be generally opposed to nawaz sharif and seem to be siding with that great crook asif zardari. It wud be preferable to have a less con roversial style as also a more competent govt which wud quit making such huge gaffes. Maybe they shud remove there information minister and bring in a competent, capable journalist to manage the ministry of information.

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