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Luis Carlos,

Com o que você me mandou as coisas começam a ficar
claras: Francisco Roiz Henriques Froes casou-se em
1813 em Londres com Mildred Thew (não vi nenhum Lady;
isso apareceria), ``spinster and minor,'' solteira e
menor de idade, ``with the consent of her natural
father,'' com a permissão do pai natural. Deve ser o
John Thew (junto com Mary Thew) que assina(m) o termo.

Já comento o resto. Gdes abcs, fa

Luis Carlos,

With what you it ordered the things to me they start to be clear:
Francisco Roiz Enriques Froes was married in 1813 in London with
Mildred Thew (not vi no Lady; this would appear), to ``spinster and
minor, ' ' single and lesser of age, ``with the consent of to her
natural to father, ' ' with the permission of the natural father. It
must be the John Thew (together with Mary Thew) that assina(m) the
term.

Already I comment the remaining portion. Gdes abcs, fa

Os dados que possuo até o momento são os seguintes:
>
> Descendentes de Francisco Roiz
>
> Francisco Roiz Henriques Froes nasceu em 1780 em
> Portugal (nada mais
> sei);
> Casou-se em Londres, em 6 May 1813, com Lady Mildred
> Thew, nascida em
> 1796, London
>
> Francis Henry Froes (primeiro filho) nasceu em 1815
F

> ou 1816, na Bahia,
> Brazil (morreu em 1896) e casou-se em 1840 em
> Liverpool com Anne
> Bennett, nascida em Lancashire. Ela morreu em 1852.
>
> John Francis Froes nasceu em 26 Dec 1862, Bahia,
> Brazil e casou-se em
> 1836 com Agnes Clark. Ela faleceu em 1847. Tiveram
> os filhos Agnes
> Mildred Froes; John Froes (1839) entre outros
> (nascidos na Inglaterra).
> Sabemos da existência de descendentes no Brasil, mas
> sem idéia de onde
> começar a busca.
>
The data that I possess until the moment are the following ones: > >
Descending of Francisco Roiz > > Francisco Roiz Enriques Froes was
born in 1780 in > Portugal (nothing more > I know); > Was married in
London, in 6 May 1813, with Lady Mildred > Thew, born in > 1796,
London > > Francis Henry Froes (first son) was born in 1815 > or 1816,
in the Bahia, > Brazil (it died in 1896) and was married in 1840 in >
Liverpool with Anne > Bennett, been born in Lancashire. It died in
1852. > > John Francis Froes was born in 26 Dec 1862, Bahia, > Brazil
and was married in > 1836 with Agnes Clark. It faleceu in 1847. The
children had had > Agnes > Mildred Froes; John Froes (1839) among
others > (been born in England). > Sabemos of the existence of
descendants in Brazil, but > without idea of where > to start the
search. >

> Você localiza provavelmente sem dificuldades esse
> casamento, e deverá ver - muito o suspeito - que
> Lady
> Mildred Thew não usava a cortesia (lady é sempre um
> `style,' tratamento de cortesia, restrito a:
> - mulheres de cavaleiros.
> - idem de baronetes.
> - idem de pares, exceto os Duques.
> - filhas de marqueses e condes.)
>
> Mas, por enquanto, nada dá para dizer. Vc diz que
> tem
> outras informações. Pode postá-las? Aqui nos
> ajudamos
> muito uns aos outros, não duvide.
>
> Forte abraço, fa

> You locate probably without difficulties this > marriage, and will
have to see - much the suspicious one - that > Lady > Mildred Thew did
not use the courtesy (lady is always one > `style, ' treatment of
courtesy, restricted: > - women of knights. > - they idem of
baronets. > - they idem of pairs, except the Dukes. > - children of
marquises and condes.) > > But, for the time being, nothing gives to
say. Vc it says that > has > other information. It can postar them?
Here in > we help > very ones to the others, does not doubt. > >
Strong I hug, fa

> > Obrigado pela resposta.
> > Na verdade eu não contei a história toda, falha
> > minha. O que nos leva a
> > ligar as duas famílias é que a pessoa em questão,
> > que viveu no Brasil no
> > final do século XIX, assinava 'Henriques Froes'.
> > Sabemos que sua
> > linhagem é anterior até mesmo à realeza
> portuguesa,
> > mas em algum momento
> > ainda desconhecido houve um relacionamento, que
> > originou esta linhagem,
> > objeto de minhas pesquisas.
> > O que sei até o momento:
> > Francisco Roiz Henriques Froes, português, casado
> em
> > Londres (1813) com
> > Lady Mildred Thew, teve dois filhos nascidos em
> > Londres e outros dois na
> > Bahia - Brasil, Francis Henry Froes, nascido em
> 1815
> > ou 1816, e (João)
> > John Francis Froes, cuja data de nascimento
> > desconheço, mas sei que
> > morreu também na Bahia, em 26/12/1862. Teve uma
> > filha, Agnes Mildred,
> > que casou-se no Brasil entre 1855 e 1859. Francis
> > Henry reivindicava
> > esta conexão com a coroa portuguesa.
> > O que estou tentando descobrir:
> > Onde viveram os Froes no Brasil; quando chegaram,
> > vindos de Portugal; de
> > que parte exatamente vieram, e qual seu destino no
> > Brasil; se ainda
> > existem remanescentes desta família no Brasil.
> >

> > Obliged for the reply. > > In the truth I did not count to
history all, I fail > > mine. What in it takes > > to bind the two
families to them is that the person in question, > > that lived in
Brazil in > > final of century XIX, signed ' Enriques Froes '. > >
Sabemos that its > > ancestry is previous even though to the
Portuguese royalty >, > > but at some still unknown moment > > had a
relationship, that > > originated this ancestry, > > object of my
research. > > What I know until the moment: > > Francisco Roiz
Enriques Froes, Portuguese, married > in > > London (1813) with > >
Lady Mildred Thew, had two children born in > > London and others two
in > > Bahia - Brazil, Francis Henry Froes, been born in > 1815 > > or
1816, e (João) > > John Francis Froes, whose date of birth > > I am
unaware of, but knows that > > also died in the Bahia, in 26/12/1862.
> had one > son, Agnes Mildred, > > that it was married in Brazil
between 1855 and 1859. Francis > > Henry demanded > > this connection
with the Portuguese crown. > > What I am trying to discover: > >
Where they had lived the Froes in Brazil; when they had arrived, > >
come of Portugal; of > > that it has left accurately had come, and
which its destination in > > Brazil; if still > > exists remaining of
this family in Brazil. > >

> >
> > Quer ter seu próprio endereço na Internet?
> > Garanta já o seu e ainda ganhe cinco e-mails
> > personalizados. DomíniosBOL
> > - http://dominios.bol.com.br
> >
> >
> > Luis Carlos,
> >
> > Froes é patronímico de Froila, Fruela; quer dizer
> > filho de Fruela. De onde você tirou que vinham dos
> > Braganças?
> >
> > fa

> > > > Quer to have its proper address in the InterNet? > >
personalized Garanta already its and still gains five e-mails > >.
DomíniosBOL > > - http://dominios.bol.com.br > > > > > > Luis Carlos,
> > > > Froes is patronymic of Froila, Fruela; > wants to say > son
of Fruela. Of where you it took off that they came of > > Braganças?
> > > > fa

> I'd
> > like to introduce myself as a new member of this
> > > group. My name is
> > > Luiz Carlos (Fassoni), from Brazil, and I'm
> > looking
> > > for informations on
> > > FROES Family, who believes being descendant of
> > > 'Duque de Bragança'. I
> > > was not certain on what language is usual in
> this
> > > group, so I used
> > > english 'cause it's the language used to sen me
> > the subscription.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > >
> > > luiz carlos

> I'd > > like you introduce myself the a new to member of this > > >
group. My name is > > > Luiz Carlos (Fassoni), from Brazil, and I'm >
> looking > > > will be informations on > > > FROES Family, who
believes being descendant of > > > ' Duke of Bragança '. Usual I > >
> was not certain on what language is in > this > > > group, so I used
> > > english ' causes it's the language used you sen me > > the
subscription. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Luiz Carlos

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Você localiza provavelmente sem dificuldades esse
casamento, e deverá ver - muito o suspeito - que Lady
Mildred Thew não usava a cortesia (lady é sempre um
`style,' tratamento de cortesia, restrito a:
- mulheres de cavaleiros.
- idem de baronetes.
- idem de pares, exceto os Duques.
- filhas de marqueses e condes.)

Mas, por enquanto, nada dá para dizer. Vc diz que tem
outras informações. Pode postá-las? Aqui nos ajudamos
muito uns aos outros, não duvide.

Forte abraço, fa

You locate probably without difficulties this marriage, and will have
to see - much the suspicious one - that Lady Mildred Thew did not use
the courtesy (lady is always one `style, ' treatment of courtesy,
restricted: - women of knights. - they idem of baronets. - they
idem of pairs, except the Dukes. - children of marquises and condes.)

But, for the time being, nothing she gives to say. Vc she says that
she has other information. She can postar them? Here in we help very
ones them to the others, does not doubt.

Fort I hug, fa

Francisco,
>
> Obrigado pela resposta.
> Na verdade eu não contei a história toda, falha
> minha. O que nos leva a
> ligar as duas famílias é que a pessoa em questão,
> que viveu no Brasil no
> final do século XIX, assinava 'Henriques Froes'.
> Sabemos que sua
> linhagem é anterior até mesmo à realeza portuguesa,
> mas em algum momento
> ainda desconhecido houve um relacionamento, que
> originou esta linhagem,
> objeto de minhas pesquisas.
> O que sei até o momento:
> Francisco Roiz Henriques Froes, português, casado em
> Londres (1813) com
> Lady Mildred Thew, teve dois filhos nascidos em
> Londres e outros dois na
> Bahia - Brasil, Francis Henry Froes, nascido em 1815
> ou 1816, e (João)
> John Francis Froes, cuja data de nascimento
> desconheço, mas sei que
> morreu também na Bahia, em 26/12/1862. Teve uma
> filha, Agnes Mildred,
> que casou-se no Brasil entre 1855 e 1859. Francis
> Henry reivindicava
> esta conexão com a coroa portuguesa.
> O que estou tentando descobrir:
> Onde viveram os Froes no Brasil; quando chegaram,
> vindos de Portugal; de
> que parte exatamente vieram, e qual seu destino no
> Brasil; se ainda
> existem remanescentes desta família no Brasil.
>
> [ ]’s
>
> Luiz Carlos Fassoni

Obliged Francisco, > > for the reply. > In the truth I did not count
to history all, I fail > mine. What in it takes > to bind the two
families to them is that the person in question, > that lived in
Brazil in > final of century XIX, signed ' Enriques Froes '. >
Sabemos that its > ancestry is previous even though to the Portuguese
royalty, > but at some still unknown moment > had a relationship, that
> originated this ancestry, > object of my research. > What I know
until the moment: > Francisco Roiz Enriques Froes, Portuguese,
married in > London (1813) with > Lady Mildred Thew, had two children
born in > London and others two in > Bahia - Brazil, Francis Henry
Froes, been born in 1815 > or 1816, e (João) > John Francis Froes,
whose date of birth > I am unaware of, but knows that > also died in
the Bahia, in 26/12/1862. > had one son, Agnes Mildred, > that it was
married in Brazil between 1855 and 1859. Francis > Henry demanded >
this connection with the Portuguese crown. > What I am trying to
discover: > Where they had lived the Froes in Brazil; when they had
arrived, > come of Portugal; of > that it has left accurately had
come, and which its destination in > Brazil; if still > exists
remaining of this family in Brazil. > > [ ]'s > > Luiz Carlos Fassoni

> Luis Carlos,
>
> Froes é patronímico de Froila, Fruela; quer dizer
> filho de Fruela. De onde você tirou que vinham dos
> Braganças?
>
> fa

> Luis Carlos, > > Froes is patronymic of Froila, Fruela; son of
Fruela wants to say >. Of where you he took off that they came of >
Braganças? > > fa