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To: Yogi Bear From: {cherish} <anon-20042@anon.twwells.com> Subject: Usenet Dear Yogi, Could you write me a brief explanation about usenet? What is it? How does it work? What's a post? Whatever you want to add... sorta a compilation of all the computer questions you've answered at asdis over the years. I would like such an article to put at cherish institute with credit being given to Yogi Bear who is known to have "all the answer" about the Net. *grin* The name of the article would be Usenet 101 (u101.html) Useful Information about Usenet Pleeeeeeeeeeease. N Q, cherish ppls (the committee to organize the institute) c.o.t.i. p.s. Other information in this group will be: - FAQ link - SYSK - astri's how to use twwells - Coney silences post - Maybe a list of /or links to lists of jargon on the Net like LOL and YMMV (I lean toward a new list because links become outdated and also links can lead to stuff that triggers) edited to here Mon, 5 Feb 2001 06:16:37 From: Yogi Bear To: {cherish} <anon-20042@anon.twwells.com> Subject: Re: Usenet On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, {cherish} wrote: > Dear Yogi, > > Could you write me a brief explanation about usenet? I think this is a FAQ. I'm pretty sure that I've seen an intro for beginners in the usenet FAQ files. > What is it? Usenet is a distributed messaging system that lets users put in a message at one point and have that message gradually flow over the entire network of news servers (provided everything works!) at extremely low cost. The advantage of low cost is balanced by the disadvantages that not every message makes it to every news server and that because of the topology of news servers, replies often get distributed before the message that they reply to! > How does it work? The Net News Transport Protocol governs how usenet works so that people can design programs for news servers and news clients that all can 'talk' with each other. I don't recall the RFC number that does this & I don't know whether there have been additional RFCs that add to usenet. The important question is "who makes it work?" and that's the newsadmins or news administrators. Those are the people who determine what newsgroups to carry/add/delete, and who determine for each newsgroup how long to retain articles on their news server. > What's a post? uhoh ;) > Whatever you want to add... sorta a compilation of all the computer > questions you've answered at asdis over the years. Things like the purists not regarding the alt.* hierarchy as part of usenet? LOLOL > I would like such an article to put at cherish institute with credit being > given to Yogi Bear who is known to have "all the answer" about the Net. > *grin* aw It also means that you could make it asd/asdis specific! And include links to other important stuff (like a Jell-O room? that has a rack of German socks for ppls to wear.) Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:56:57 From: Yogi Bear To: {cherish} <anon-20042@anon.twwells.com> Subject: Re: Usenet >>I think this is a FAQ. > > Yes. http://www.faqs.org/faqs/news-newusers-intro/ (a bit dense, but it conveys that usenet is *not a website, and that it's extensive and chaotically organized ;) > Can I use what you wrote in your message? Yes. Please use what you think will meet the needs of your readers. Mon, 5 Feb 2001 13:08:36 From: Yogi Bear To: {cherish} <anon-20042@anon.twwells.com> Subject: Re: Usenet -- have you asked RC? On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, {cherish} wrote: > At 06:16 am 2/5/01, you wrote: >>On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, {cherish} wrote: >> >> > Dear Yogi, >> > >> > Could you write me a brief explanation about usenet? FWIW, I think Jill-RC understands this stuff pretty well since her husband runs a news server on their host (as I understand it anyway.) She might have some ideas about how to present the essentials in a way that will help asd-ers make best use of newsgroups (and still protect themselves against stuff like deja.com archiving etc.) eg: It's not obvious on the surface that a simple post to a newsgroup can result in spam coming for months! Mon Feb 05 14:14:15 2001 To: Yogi Bear From: {cherish} <anon-20042@anon.twwells.com> Subject: Re: Usenet At 12:56 pm 2/5/01 , you wrote: >On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, {cherish} wrote: > > > Can I use what you wrote in your message? > >Yes. Please use what you think will meet the needs of your readers. Thank you, and I hope that you'll proof read the page when I'm done in case I've made aany errors. I want a simple explanation. Short. Concise. Mon Feb 05 14:17:05 2001 To: Yogi Bear From: {cherish} <anon-20042@anon.twwells.com> Subject: Re: Usenet -- have you asked RC? Passing the buck, eh? I'd like to get something online before I start asking for suggestions. I do not want any [1] links on the page. Just a meaningful, useful definition/explanation of Usenet. ______________________________ [1] outside cherish institute ______________________________ Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:13:50 From: Yogi Bear To: {cherish} <anon-20042@anon.twwells.com> Subject: Re: Usenet On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, {cherish} wrote: > At 12:56 pm 2/5/01 , you wrote: >>On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, {cherish} wrote: >> >> > Can I use what you wrote in your message? >> >>Yes. Please use what you think will meet the needs of your readers. > > Thank you, and I hope that you'll proof read the page when I'm done in case > I've made aany errors. > > I want a simple explanation. Short. Concise. Ah, I forgot to add to the explanation of newsgroups/usenet that now there are sites that provide HTML access to messages and/or archive them -- deja.com, newsguy.com, etc, to let people use browsers to read newsgroups. RFC (Request For Comment) 977 defined the original standard. I went to http://www.faqs.org and searched RFCs -- results appended.
Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:19:23 From: Yogi Bear To: {cherish} <anon-20042@anon.twwells.com> Subject: Re: Usenet -- have you asked RC? On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, {cherish} wrote: > Passing the buck, eh? Just that once you get something that fits your needs, you might pass it by RC for both DID and tekkie viewpoints. > I'd like to get something online before I start asking for suggestions. > > I do not want any [1] links on the page. Ah. That's a useful constraint to know. *sigh* A comment about things that people can plug into search engines that will turn up further references might be useful then. > Just a meaningful, useful definition/explanation of Usenet. Usenet is great! What more do they gotta know???? Where else can you find Jell-O parties and hospital watches taken with the seriousness they deserve! > > [1] outside cherish institute > > Tue, 6 Feb 2001 08:09:02 From: Yogi Bear To: {cherish} <anon-20042@anon.twwells.com> Subject: usenet --> FAQ files! It was usenet communities of interest who started the construction and maintenance of FAQ files (Frequently Asked Questions with commonly-accepted Answers) when the 'regulars' to the newsgroups got tired of answering the same questions over and over! Because it was individual members of the groups who volunteered for the tasks, the FAQs are a wonderful mix that somewhat depends on the dedication and interests of the various communities. Most are posted periodically to the newsgroups which evolved them. > Tue Feb 06 13:03:08 2001 To: Yogi Bear From: {cherish} <anon-20042@anon.twwells.com> Subject: Re: Usenet ? At 07:13 pm 2/5/01 , you wrote: >On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, {cherish} wrote: > > I want a simple explanation. Short. Concise. Uh... *eyes darting from side to side* Maybe I should say, "In a nutshell . . ." What's nntp? >Ah, I forgot to add to the explanation of newsgroups/usenet that now >there are sites that provide HTML access to messages and/or archive them >-- deja.com, newsguy.com, etc, to let people use browsers to read >newsgroups. > >RFC (Request For Comment) 977 defined the original standard. I went to >http://www.faqs.org and searched RFCs -- results appended. >----------------8<------------------------------- > > RFC Archive Search > > Results for query "nntp"
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