From ???@??? Sat Nov 28 20:14:54 1998
Subject: [Free-Masonry] Re: thoughts during a stroll with an headache
Dear Brother Vallini,
Your thoughts on the subject are very deep and you are correct.. Thank you
for the wisdom..
Sincerely & Fraternally
Bro. Manny Blanco
Moreno VAlley Lodge # 804
Moreno Valley, CA
From ???@??? Sun Nov 29 14:33:35 1998
Subject: [Free-Masonry] The Third Messiah
From: alberto vallini
Approaching the millenium, messianism and escatology inevitabily sneak a
bit through our collective imagination. No one believes (at least no
reasonable man) that "the end of the world is nigh", obviously (uhm,
despite now i come to think of it and despite it is clearly and merely an
humoristic offshoot, it is anyway at least "nigher" for sure. Sooner or
later the world will end up in a dire glare absorbed from the inflation of
the collapsing sun, within an inflamed tempest of decading atomic products,
so to some extent it is not completely unfounded to state out that at the
turn of any millenium the end of the world is quite not "nigh" but quite
yes "nigher" :-)
I think that the reason from time to time we human beings come to reason
about similar childish things is that doing so we cherish our mind with
ideal patterns so full of symbols that keep irradiating power and emotions,
that we feel they are feeding us: after all, man shall not live by bread
alone... So the intensity of these fairy tales for grown up children
accomplishes at least one task: helps us to sensibily feel and remember
that we are still alive, that grief made sense, that we really inherit
some sparkle lost from the heavens (only a fallen angel whose eyes once saw
the unreal shapes of the empyreal substances could than really envision and
entertain fantasies so sharply deprived of any actual and darwinian
evidence), and than, if so, we find consolations thinking that, led by
these visions, one day we could even be able to end up realizing something
great beyond notions of measure, the holy Temple of Solomon, thus finishing
with a bang and not with a patetical whimper. There is something sound even
in those fanatic fantasies that urged men in the Middle ages. It is like in
the Amlet "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't". This latter
kind of sentences always made me smile, there is a subte wit in them. And
moreover also a Brother of the 17th century, William Blake, wrote that
sometimes the tigers of the rage look wiser than the horses of the sapience.
Which made me remember of that old crazy statement... I think any Brother
sooner or later faced that idea that some maybe also a bit malevolent and
for sure a lot in bad faith "profane" got fun in spreading around: Masonry
would have been, accordingly to these sheer folies, close to satanism!
Which is an idea that makes so complete nonsense to any Freemason who knows
in first person what the masonic life is in reality and not in nightmares,
that should be dismissed without further notice. But i was considering
today a strange idea, not fully shaped yet.
Messianism, namely the idea that sooner or later a major god will reaveal
himself to save us (uhm, from what? Agtain?????), is actually a threefold
issue. First there should be the Messiah in the form of the lamb.
Christianity recognized Him in Christ. Other religions are still waiting
for him (her? who knows!!), but let's assume for a moment that it was
Christ ( i say "assume" because i don't mean being unrespectful towards who
does not think so). The first step is than done: the Messiah expressed
himself through being vanquished and crucifixed. What next? The second
advent should be the Antichrist, sort of a back to front Messiah! Infact it
is said that he will have his disciples. Than the fight in Armagheddon and
blah blah let's say... But the story does not stop here. There is a third
figure that some escatological legends fantasize about: there should also
be one last ultimate time when the Messiah will come back again, but this
time no more in the form of the Lamb but in the form of the Lion. In such
disguise, he will no more loose, but he will win. It does not imply the
apocalypse: he will not win against an enemy: the Anthicrist has yet been
defeated at the previous stage. Simply, the third Messiah will express
himself in an assertive and creative way, and will suffer no longer of the
gap he suffered in its first incarnation: the gap between his spiritual
valour and his temporal acknowledgement.
Well, to some extent, Free-Masonry looks like, symbolically, the Third
Messiah: a group of men that joined so that the desire and the hunt for the
Good can be alloweed to cope with the world with a chance of being no more
just a victim, just a lamb. After all, sometimes i feel also this pulse
within Free-Masonry, sort of: THIS TIME the Good shall not perish, because
we are here, and we are here to defend and shield it.
So i think that when some silly persons get involved with that abominable
idea that masonry should have had at least something to share with one of
the three Messias, the second one, they are not completely wrong: they are
simply picking up the wrong One :-))))))
.
«There is another sort of blow that comes from within- that you don't feel
until it's too late to do anything about it, until you realize with
finality that in some regard you will never be as good a man again»
(F.S.Fitzgerald)
Alberto Vallini
From ???@??? Sun Nov 29 18:10:45 1998
Subject: [Free-Masonry] Re: The Third Messiah
From: fm/jv
Dear Brother Alberto,
I like your reflections on the issue of the Meshiah and the apocalyptic
writings. I am aware that the discussions about this issue have divided the
western country and caused many wars that have devastated the world.
Nevertheless, this is an issue it is exciting to talk about. It really deserves
our serious attention. I appreciate your comments and the comments of everybody
on this issue. Myths and stories that we consider eternal truths have been the
responsible of our emotional and mental balance while we function as human
beings. So, I agree with you that "Childish things," "Ideal patterns," and
"Symbols" are sustaining our frailty as human beings.
If we take "Resurrection" as a fact that will come in the future, is it not
related to the coming of the Messiah? If resurrection is related to a new era,
is it our masonry, not the third messiah, but responsible to prepare the way and
the environment for the messiah to reign?
There are some other questions that spring up from our human imagination. Is
the concept of the messiah a human or divine creation? What works is supposed
that he/she will come to do? Has he or she already come? If he/she has not
come, will he come out from a religious, philosophical group as our masonry?
What personal characteristics should he or she have that we can recognize she or
he is or was the messiah? Is she or he going to be human or divine?
Again, I appreciate your comments and light on this issue.
Frederick
From ???@??? Mon Nov 30 14:53:25 1998
Subject: [Free-Masonry] Re: thoughts during a stroll with an headache
From: "Byrne"
alberto vallini wrote
>considering that word, "profane", by which we indicate the non-masonic
world.
how lovely to be able to wander around florence at will with only your
thoughts and the beauty to keep you company
i hold the view that for masons to use the word profane to describe
non-masons invites trouble - profane is a word with sacred connotations and
means to show disrespect to sacred things or to be non-sacred
thus if we refer to non-masons as profane we are implying that masonry is
sacred which it is - only in so far as we are devoted to a single god
sacred also means being allied to a religion which we are not
surely "non-masons" is a much better word to use to describe those who don't
enjoy our fellowship
fraternally
patrick
From ???@??? Mon Nov 30 15:13:06 1998
Subject: [Free-Masonry] Re: profane, pagan, initiate?
From: alberto vallini
Hallo
yup , the word "profane" seems really being inviting troubles! It's a
perfectly
made observation! After all, saying profane barely dissimulates that it is
just
one step away from saying "pagan", isn't it? Actually, this is the reason i
thought that "profane" should point out to a metaphisical conception rather
than to actual persons. Under this respect also a mason can still host
"profane" dimensions: being an "initiate" he/she shouldn't (which could be a
point against the previous assumption), but it is also true that the masonic
knowledge is derived from esoteric-symbolic legacies so it is well possible
that by saying "profane" what was originally meant was a metaphorical
condition, and that when we say that a mason, being an "initiate", has nothing
to share anymore with the "profane" dimension we just highlight the ideal
pattern that we pursue: if any petitioner should really be without any profane
dimension in order to become an initiate, we shouldn't enroll anymore any
mason
:-): so i think that when we use it thinking it is referring to real people we
misunderstand its original meaning. And, after all, "initiation" is a term
that
refers to a path that begins not to a road that ends up. I think (uhm, maybe i
think too much) that what makes the difference is the strong hold of a choice,
that other people did not undertake yet with the same resolution: the initiate
chose to commit him/herself to a new attitude toward the world and to a new
insight: he is not completely without profane dimensions, but he pledged with
his free will that he will aemend any profane pattern as soon as he/she spot
it.
From ???@??? Wed Dec 02 07:45:41 1998
Subject: [Free-Masonry] Re: profane, pagan, initiate?
From: Mark Rollins
Profane...pagan... One step apart?
Profane seems to mean uninitiated, irreligious or even vile and
anti-religious. Although the dictionary says pagan can mean something
similar, I beg to differ in light of personal experience. I have met at
least a few Masons who are "pagans" who are anything but irreligious and
certainly not uninitiated. Outside of Masonry the pagans I have met also
seem to be religious, devout and dedicated to their own concept of deity.
The word pagan can be somewhat of a dirty word to a follower of any of the
various Judeo/Christian denominations as it denotes one who follows an
unauthorized path to deity. However to one who answers to the title pagan,
neo-pagan or heathen, it merely means a follower of one of the ever
expanding number of religions that trace their beginnings to religions that
existed either before or outside of the mainstream major world religions.
(Stepping down from his soap box)
Just wanted to jump into the discussion with both feet. I am a new
subscriber, but never one to participate passively. *grin*
F&S,
Mark
From ???@??? Thu Dec 03 03:48:44 1998
Subject: [Free-Masonry] Re: profane, pagan, initiate?
From: alberto vallini
>The word pagan can be somewhat of a dirty word to a follower of any of the
>various Judeo/Christian denominations as it denotes one who follows an
>unauthorized path to deity. However to one who answers to the title pagan,
>neo-pagan or heathen, it merely means a follower of one of the ever
>expanding number of religions that trace their beginnings to religions that
>existed either before or outside of the mainstream major world religions.
Hallo,
well, i was obviously referring to the, say, mainstream use of the word
"pagan"
best regards,
.
«There is another sort of blow that comes from within- that you don't feel
until it's too late to do anything about it, until you realize with
finality that in some regard you will never be as good a man again»
(F.S.Fitzgerald)
Alberto Vallini
From ???@??? Thu Dec 03 04:55:28 1998
Subject: [Free-Masonry] Re: A brother needs help
From: alberto vallini
Dear brothers,
I paste in here an email I have received. I think it needs no further
comments.
In 03.49 03/12/98 +0000, hai scritto:
>
>
>> > LVMPD caught one of the guys involved in the murder of my son. He
>> > confessed. They are now looking for the other guy. They are both
>> > teenagers.
>> >
>> > (***)
From ???@??? Fri Dec 04 11:50:01 1998
Subject: [Free-Masonry] Hello All
From: Pat Diller
Good Day to all you Brothers! Tonight was our Lodge Elections, and I
was elected as Worshipful Master for next year. I was hoping for this,
as I have many events planned for the year! If anyone is around the
South Bend, IN area on December 17th, I will be installed then..
For a question: What types of things are you using for Masonic
Education? I was the M.E. guy out our lodge last year, and used up most
of my ideas, so I'm looking for some new ones..
Thanks in Advance
Pat DIller
Lakeville Lodge #353, Lakeville, IN
From ???@??? Fri Dec 04 11:50:37 1998
Subject: [Free-Masonry] MASONIC GIFTS FOR THE HOLIDAY!
Masonic Gifts For The Holidays!
* Lapel Pins
* Key Rings
* Coffee Mugs
* Belt Buckles
See the attached pictures. Lapel pin (not shown) design is the same as the
others.
(Print and Save)
The Key rings & Lapel pins are crafted of fine pewter, and hand enameled.
The Coffee Mug is a standard size black mug, with the pewter mason design
attached to the outside.
The BUCKLE features our unique steel back hook, (our hooks won't chip or
break off like other, cheaply made brands).
PRICING:
(*** *** ***)
From ???@??? Fri Dec 04 12:24:24 1998
Subject: [Free-Masonry] Re: NO COMMERCIAL ADS IN THE LIST please
From: alberto vallini
Hallo Lou,
I see that Your message was addressed to some covinalodge@eGroups.com ,but
since it has landed also in our list:
please, for this time is ok, but obviously the list is not meant for
commercial
purposes, and it should also be added that 3 gifs could delay the downloading
time of many a connection. I know for sure that Some of the subscribers on
this
list use their computers also for work and do not necessary have a pentium
450,
so including attachments could also slow down their connections by which they
work.
But I repeat: no one on a mailing list would expect to see it packed with
commercial proposal, or otherways they wouldn't subscribe. I am sure those
products are fine, but anyone in here sells something (isn't it life?) and no
one would dream of dealing his business exploiting a list, and less of all a
list of freemasons!!!
I hope You understand and that this would suffice. If there is something I
dislike and I honestly would regard unfriendly would be blocking an address
thus preventing it from posting on the list.
eGroups has still been informed.
with fraternal friendship
From ???@??? Sat Dec 05 05:44:02 1998
Subject: [Free-Masonry] Brotherly Love
From: "Michael E. Jennings, Jr."
Brothers All...I haven't forgot about Bro Vallini's request for information on
Prince Hall Masonry. Since I haven't had time to write anything up on such a
complex subject I will email the listserv a few web pages on Prince Hall Masonry
which I think are excellent sources of information.
Brother (***)...My prayers are with you! To a certain extent, I understand
your pain because my father was murdered in Atlanta, Georgia more than 10 years
ago and his killer has never been identified.
Brother Diller...Congratulations on your travels to the East! I wish you the
best during the new masonic year. You will be a busy man indeed...
Fraternally,
Michael E. Jennings
Doric #28 (Prince Hall Affiliated)
Durham, North Carolina
USA
some unexplicabily missing email here
From ???@??? Mon Dec 14 05:37:28 1998
Subject: [Free-Masonry] Re: Introduction and some words on the ritual secrecy
From: alberto vallini
Hallo Bro Richard,
welcome to our list. The list counts now a fairly good number of subscribers,
despite the fact we are all pretty silent :-) You know how FreeMasons are :-)
In these days I have been a bit busy with work ( I undertook again the
management of a pub here in Firenze, which is pretty crowded and takes lot of
energies :-) so I didn't follow the list much closely, but in the next days I
will surely propose some thread of discussion. Of course, any curiosity,
subject or else you feel like communicating you can share with us.
Normally , as an habit of mine, I only post something when my ideas about a
subject are still developed to some extent: for instance I was thinking in
these days about an issue that I have not thoroughly thought yet, but maybe I
can cast an hint anyway.
We know that our tradition ( I say our but I mean the masonic tradition,
because we also have some subscribers interested in Free-Masonry on our list
but
that did not elect to belong to our family) prescribes the "secrecy", which is
indeed something (i use an happy formulation that a Bro in this list used a
few
days ago) "that invites trouble": it is for sure a source of misunderstandings
from the non-initiate world.
So I recalled that a Bro in our masonic house once said: "our secret is simply
a ritual secret". It is true: it is not an actual secret (I think any mason
can
say that in the most part of the tournaments there is actually nothing that
couldn't be shouted from a balcony as well!!), and i remembered my initiation
some days ago: I could spot exactly where the brothers that took care of my
petition were standing and even where the brothers that inquired on me when I
applied, nonetheless they covered their faces with their hand: it was there
that i soon realized that it was menat to help me (and therefore any newcomer)
to appreciate better the suggestion of the rite and to cast on me some
spiritual message that echoed what the symbolic magnificence of Free-Masonry
could be, but it was not at allo an attempt to hide themselves! For some of
them I could tell by their clothes their identity ( didn't they accompained me
to the door of the masonic house after all?), so the meaning couldn't be to
any
extent of concealing themselves.
Maybe this could help us to start a thread: what the role of secrecy in
Free-Masonry is actually about ? I would also be curious to know from some
non-mason how the so called "secrecy" of the freemasons appears to his/her
eyes.
Moreover I also suppose that in any initiatory school the secret could remain
secret even for an initiate: what i mean is that i think that when our
tradition prescribes the secret it simply refers to the actual fact that some
spiritual things would remain forever "secret" even to an initiate unless you
don't understend them not just with your brain and not just with your heart
but
with both of them, with brain, heart and guts: yiou must feel the noumenic
intelligence and the feeling rising. Under this perspective, do you think it
would be correct to say that the real original prescription was not exactly to
"keep" or shield a "secret" but was an invitation to realize that when you
cope
with life, you have to strive with all your forces to understand its meaning
and silent lessons, otherways the secret will remain a secret forever: after
all, the etimology of "secret" derioves from "secretum": what a biological
body
produces from its glands, which means a quintessence that thrived within
something as intense as the blood: you cannot hope to understand it with a
superficial attitude: it is not "secret" because it conceals itself, but
because it cannot be otherwise: it is its nature!
A book by an english writer , H.James, was titled "What Maise knew": it is an
evocative title: everybody "knows" something that is difficult to communicate,
but it does not depend from the fact that you don't want to comunicate it but
from the fact that it is something that belongs to the Gods: something in us
that represent what in ourselves is stronger than ouselves: you cannot
communicate it simply, and it is "secret" under the aspect that it is
something
paied with tears and sweat: it is the truth that we discovered about life, and
it cannot be exposed in simple words and also if it is fully communicated, it
could go through misunderstood because it requires a bit more than "wit" to be
caught?
Is this what our tradition meant when it prescribed "secrecy": remember that
you must strive in your life so much to produce your philosophical "secretum",
so that it could be a legacy for the future mankind, your true contribution to
the progress of the whole?
Maybe.
Ideas are welcome.
And, once again, welcome to the list Richard
PS i hope i did not make too many grammar errors, I wrote it on the
inspiration
of the moment.
Alberto Vallini
From ???@??? Tue Dec 15 12:07:11 1998
From: "Alain St.Jacques"
I thank you for the good words, It a pleasure to be able to communicate
with Mason from as far away,
From ???@??? Tue Dec 22 05:17:32 1998
Subject: [Free-Masonry] Re: Welcome to Free-Masonry@eGroups.com
From:
eGroups has said that you do not provide any archives. So is this jsut a chat
and research page for those of gernal curiousity? i am a member of the Order
of Eastern Star. So you can guess, I already know somthing about Freemasons.
Bea
From ???@??? Tue Dec 22 05:17:38 1998
Subject: [Free-Masonry] Archives, and Greetings
From: "Richard"
I would like to see an archive available for members of this list.
I added two links to the links list and would like to see links added by
others please.
Tomorrow is the Solstice - Summer here in the southern hemisphere. I would
like to wish all the compliments of the Season, and safe journeying during
the holidays. I will be celebrating the Vigil on the night of 24 December
and be with my family the following day, Christmas. For those masons able
to partake in the antient celebrations of the feast day of St John the
Evangelist, I wish you a happy time. May 1999 be a better year for
everyone.
Yours fraternally,
Richard Num
WM, South Australian Lodge of Research #216
WM, The Lodge of Sincerity #120
(both in the jurisdiction of the GL of South Australia including the
Northern Territory)
From ???@??? Tue Dec 22 05:19:18 1998
Subject: [Free-Masonry] new member
From:
Hi there
Just a contact call to you all to say hi.
Allan
From ???@??? Tue Dec 22 05:42:44 1998
Subject: [Free-Masonry] Re: Welcome to Free-Masonry@eGroups.com
From: alberto vallini
Hallo dear Bea and my fraternal greeting to all of the new members.
I am happy that we have a new member of the Eastern Stars among Us.
I am rather busy on these days: I am defining some new lines in my job
contract(right word?) so the "profane" life is taking away a bit more of my
time than what I would have been willing to concede to it.
The list actually has no archive. We had some meaningful posts( really), but
the general attitude is to avoid publishing archives for subjects involving
Free-Masonry( if you browse eGroups you would notice that also many a group has
no archives at all available). Our group counts so far more than 40 members
from a lot of countries all around the world but it is still suffering by a
strange attitude: we produce a small amount of posts. The potential we are
cumulating is high but we are still a bit shy about issuing new threads. I am
confident our attitude will change just and simply over time.
I am just back from work (6.30am!!) but i take this chance for delivering my
best wishes to all of you for an happy Christmas ( i will take 3 days free of
work on this occasion to visit my last relative: my old grandmother... it's
not
interesting, I know).
In the meanwhile just hold on: we have brothers all around the world,
increasing with a constant rate of 2 a week.
My fraternal greetings, and now just excuse me: i need some sleeeeeeeep !! :-)
The Great Architect of the Universe will take care of us
fraternal regards
Alberto Vallini
From ???@??? Wed Dec 23 04:12:12 1998
Subject: [Free-Masonry] Re: Welcome to Free-Masonry@eGroups.com
From: "Doug McLean"
Merry Christmas to all my brother masons around the world. May you new year
be both prosperous and rewarding
Wor Bro Doug McLean PJGD
Warragul
Australia
Past Master, Past Principal of
Warragul Craft
Warragul
Drouin Chapter
Moe Royal & Select
Warragul Rose Croix 30o
Currently Steward in Grand Chapter of Victoria
From ???@??? Wed Dec 23 04:12:15 1998
Subject: [Free-Masonry] Re: Welcome to Free-Masonry@eGroups.com
From: "Duncan J. Moore"
Dear Alberto,
Many thanks for your hard work. I will get into postings when I have more
time.
In the meantime do have a Merry Christmas and a prosperous 1999 !
Duncan Moore
5454, 3101 (England) 48 (GLNF)
From ???@??? Wed Dec 23 04:12:16 1998
Subject: [Free-Masonry] Re: Welcome to Free-Masonry@eGroups.com
From: "Duncan J. Moore"
Dear Bro Doug,
Same to you.
Sincerely and fraternally,
Duncan Moore
PM 5454, 3101 (England) 48 (France)
From ???@??? Wed Dec 23 04:13:10 1998
Subject: [Free-Masonry] Re: Welcome to Free-Masonry@eGroups.com
From: "Allan Spencer"
Dear Bro. Doug
Fraternal Greetings to you all your family and your brethren
Allan Spencer. PM8446, P.Pr.G.J.D.
From ???@??? Wed Dec 23 04:45:30 1998
Subject: [Free-Masonry] Re: Welcome to Free-Masonry@eGroups.com
From: alberto vallini
Hallo dear Brothers, Sisters, Non-mason still interested in Free-Masonry,
I considered the latest requests about archives and I think I will provide
within february 1999 some website with the archives available like uploaded
files (I will ask for permission, anyway, before uploading posts).
This will provide the possibility to exploit a bit of our works, despite they
are not yet so constant. I hope this will help as far as the matter of the
archives is concerned ( this should also grant for more privacy, because you
can selectively exclude single posts if some subscribers does not wish to see
it on the internet, something that with archives on the eGroups site wouldn't
be possible)
Just gimme a bit of time: these days are a bit chaotic :-))
And also again: happy Christmas and New year's day: 1999 will require some
additional effort from everyone of us: i think we are all aware, or at
least we
all host an inner and hidden feeling, that an year whose identity sounds like
"2000" stimulates in every individual pshicology the sense and the need of a
rebirth and of a global re-thinking of Life: this harsh, extraordinary,
bitter,
crazy adventure we are all involved with and experiencing under the Eye of the
Great Architect of the Universes.
Alberto Vallini
From ???@??? Sun Dec 27 13:04:26 1998
Subject: [Free-Masonry] Re: Welcome to Free-Masonry@eGroups.com
From:
I guess i do not understand the principle and use of the bulletin board
posting system. I am used to live chat or direct one on one emails. Although
the posts might be interesting and may have sequential relevance and
signifigance, i guess i do not want to wait between communications. A
straightforward out and out newsletter makes more sense to me.I just read
them from as many places as possilbe in the masonic circles. Bea
From ???@??? Sun Dec 27 13:04:28 1998
Subject: [Free-Masonry] Re: Welcome to Free-Masonry@eGroups.com
From:
I dont; know how to send you an Irish blessing....but here...catch one...
..........got it....you interpret.i dont; ;know the gaelic....Bea.
sisterly love have the best of days on your 25th.
From ???@??? Sun Dec 27 13:05:23 1998
Subject: [Free-Masonry] Re: Welcome to Free-Masonry@eGroups.com
From:
Help this message is stopping my download
From ???@??? Tue Dec 29 03:59:44 1998
Subject: [Free-Masonry] W.M. and P.M. Group
From: Pat Diller
Hello! Being a new Worshipful Master in my Lodge, I am always looking
for ideas, help, and knowledge in and about the Masonic Fraternity. I
therefore have created a group for Woshipful Brothers who are interested
in sharing these things. If you would be interested, please check it
out! Thanks!
Worhipful Brother Patrick S. Diller
Lakeville Lodge #353
Lakeville, IN
From ???@??? Tue Dec 29 03:59:46 1998
Subject: [Free-Masonry] Masters List: SORRY!
From: Pat Diller
Sorry about the gibberish in the last message..I tried, but didn't do
something right evidently. You can go the the website of :
http://www.egroups.com/list/worshipfulbrothers.
Thanks for the interest, and again sorry for the gibberish!
Fraternally,
Pat Diller
From ???@??? Tue Dec 29 03:59:48 1998
Subject: [Free-Masonry] Re: Masters List: SORRY!
From: Pat Diller
Reason being John is that I have to Approve you as being a member of the
group before you can access it. It did this to ensure that no spam groups
could access it and waste our time..Sorry if this inconvenience has upset
you..
Pat DIller
W.M. Lakeville IN #353
From ???@??? Tue Dec 29 03:59:51 1998
Subject: [Free-Masonry] New List
From: Pat Diller
Since I have had one instance of a Brother misunderstanding why I have
called the list Worshipfulbrothers and why I have allowed access only
after I accept you, let me clarify some things.
1) This is not only for Masters and PM. It is intended to by used by
them to discuss government of Lodge and ideas for new membership
acquisitions. You may join w/o being a Master or a P.M.
2) I chose to approve people to the group for two reasons. One, it
makes me aware of who you are and your e:mail address..Even if you are a
lurker, you are important to the group. I want to see how many people
see the postings, and who responds by wanting to be made a member. I
also want the ability to keep out a "spam" or someone who is disrupting
the harmony of the group. I am not going to check on you wether you are
a PM, WM or not, and it doesn't matter to me if you are to join the
list.
3) I chose the name for the list because it better signifies the type
of discussion I want to take place here. All of you know the
discussions that take place on the Freemason List, which are much more
general. This was a place to post more specialized postings and ideas,
which would be most of interest to the WM and PM.
Finally, any of you may join the group. Otherwise, it wouldn't have
been sent out to all of you like it was..
Thanks
Pat DIller
From ???@??? Wed Dec 30 06:48:06 1998
Subject: [Free-Masonry] Re: W.M. and P.M. Group
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