These two words are completely taken out of context and always used to strengthen the belief that those of us in the church are predestined to be saved. To some extent; This is indeed true. Because salvation is the first footstep on the path of conformation.Take this analogy for example; A real estate developer who buys foreclosed houses. He doesn't necessarily choose and purchase a house because it is in the perfect condition at the time of his buying it. No—He chooses it for what can become after he hires a carpenter and other contractors to conform it into the image that he has in his mind. So obviously it cannot be sold as for the amount of a completed conformed piece of real estate. It takes time and much labor to conform into the image of a completed piece of property.
This walk unto glory is exactly the same way. We aren't predestined to be saved from the trash heap to just sit idly by never to be reconditioned and refurbished into the completed Image. The Image we are to be conformed to is Christ. What Image did Christ show to the world? He He preached and taught the things of His father.
Romans 8: 28 - 30 is stood upon by I would be safe in saying 85% of the church today, to mean that someone that is foreknown and predestined by God is only predestined to be saved—And that's it. This could not be further from the Truth, brethren. Below please read how the Amplified text translates this ~ We are assured and know that [God being a Partner in their labor] all things fit together and are [fitting into a plan] for good to and for those who love God and are called according to [His] design and purpose.
29) For those whom He foreknew [of whom He was aware of and loved beforehand], He also destined from the beginning [foreordaining them] to be molded into the Image of His Son [and share inwardly His likeness], that He might become the firstborn among many brethren.
30) And those who He thus foreordained, He also called; and those whom He called, He also justified (acquitted, made righteous, putting them into right standing with Himself). And those whom He justified, He also glorified [raising them to heavenly dignity and condition of state of being].
This word Glory or Glorified is completely taken out of context by most of us in the church. And it's not completely the fault of the sheep. Although the sheep are not held guiltless as far as the understanding of His Word is concerned. Most of the guilt rests upon the teachers and expounders of God's Word today. Mainly because they keep the lambs and sheep underfed and under nourished. Either intentionally or unwittingly they keep the sheep completely dependant upon them for the understanding into Kingdom things.Backing up to Romans 8: 17. His Word is very clear. ~ And if we are [His] children, then we are [His] heirs also; heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ [sharing His inheritance with Him]; only we must share His sufferings IF we are to share His glory. I urge all to look in your concordance under the word ~ sufferings ~ In the New Covenant. I will paste the books and chapters but please read them yourself. Romans 8: 18 ~ 2 Cor. 1: 5 & 6 ~ Phil. 3: 10 ~ Col. 1: 29 ~ Heb. 2: 10 ~ 1 Peter 1: 11 & 4: 15 & 5: 1. The sufferings of Christ do not come upon someone just because they believe in Christ---NO---The sufferings of Christ come upon us as we preach and teach the Gospel of Christ.
Whether you believe it or not. We will all be called to account if we do not take up this calling to preach and teach the Gospel !!!
These men and women that keep the lambs and sheep dependant upon them; do so at the expense of the flock. Because the do not teach the Truth—the Whole Truth—and Nothing BUT the Truth. Many today that prop up a podium never teach that the sheep have the same calling as they in order to fulfill their date with the Glory of Christ. Please read the complete chapters of Ezekiel 13 & 34.
Some of these are spurious and should be labeled as such because they have one end in sight. Mammon. They claim they teach the Gospel of Christ for the Gospel's sake but in fact their lifestyle fails to show this fruit. And I won't go into that at this time, but in another letter. They constantly solicit money and goods from the sheep in the guise of "Tithes and love offerings". And I warn you all now to flee from these counterfeits and imposters before you yourself become one. If a preacher or pastor EVER gives a tithe sermon or attempts to solicit mammon in any way, shape or form—They are to be labeled an imposter and as Ezekiel called them, " wolves in sheep's clothing". These are men and women who trash the Faith and as Jude said—Are condemned and ungodly men who turn the grace of God in lasciviousness and they in Truth deny the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ.
And herein lies the crux of the problem. Many of these spurious men and women are just doing as they were taught by them that came before them. All of them. I am really hesitant right now to call them by name before I address them personally but I know that you all know them. They are obvious by their fruit. Their faith lies in mammon and the things of this world. I urge you all to examine who you are under. Please take a look who you are taught by and question their calling because when all is said and done—If your fruit comes from the seeds of these imposter's then your fruit will likewise be rotten to the core. THEN the judgment of God will rest upon your hands and your hands alone.
I BID HEART PEACE AND ALL SPIRITUAL BLESSING UNTO YOU FROM HIS THRONE OF GRACE!