Can anyone tell me what exactly the fun part of going to a bar is?
It is fun if and only if you are the sort of person who wants to get very drunk very quickly.

The music is crappy, so dancing - no. The music is too loud, so talking - no. So what's left?
Get p*ssed, destroy. [/sex_pistols]

One reason to go to a bar could be trying to meet someone of the opposite sex. But I doubt I'll ever find my Brian in a bar
Never say never. Just look for the sensitive guy who really looks like he doesn't want to be there, and would bolt for the door given a quarter of an opportunity. Pop over, say hi, and I'll - er - he'll take you up on that.

Girls trying to dress as sexy as possible,
Which usually means not dressing. Wearing a sort of dress-less evening strap.

and guys trying to gather as many girls around them as possible.
Are you gonna tell them about only doing one at a time, or shall I?

that restaurant was fun, sorta
They tend to be. I remember Andrej's stag night, which was little more than him, me, his bro, father, and father in law sitting in an Italian restaurant, comparing notes. Kinda stag night I'd buy (:

Tanvir
my freinds think I look like Jack McPhee from D.Creek
Don't know about that, but he's the spitting image of Mike O'Toole, thespian in St John's.

I need videos or some help as to where I can get some.
Do you have a video that will play NTSC? If so, twelve episodes are available in North America; consult online video retailers for pricing, but expect to pay 70 quid for the lot.

If not, you may wish to keep an eye on satellite channels such as UK Living, Trouble and Rapture. MSCL would fall logically into their schedules, and UKL have bought the first two seasons of Po5.

who's Lisa? If she lives really close to me, I'd like to get to know her!!
Lisa Bing xxx is currently studenting English at Yark Uni, but normally resides in West London with her parents, cable system, and a greater amount of cool than anyone else in the country. I'm hoping she'll return to us once term finishes in a few weeks.

Kpmsyjsm
It's amazing what a simple shift can do, writes Usub.

Shana
lowers her prices
Of course, there are those wallpaper purchasers who wish to use as much of their budget as they can, and reducing your prices might reduce the number of prospective purchasers.

Marj
We ended up pickign out this Chicks Rule one
Inside joke or not, it would also happen to be true.

Well, I suppose I could apply for membership of the $36.32 (inc GST) club, but I think I was happier in the $25.13 club.

Chelle, the first lady of cool things, quotes me
>chelle's right. As always.
not always :+P
Yes, always. [blows raspberry]

I asked Jesse how he knew Sara
she introduced me to this list
So, one day, there was the tinkle of fairy footsteps on your monitor, and Sara appeared to say "hey. there's this cool list that you should be on"? Is that what happened??

Actually, don't answer; the thought of Sara doing that sort of thing fits her well.

what is MSCL?
Strike that. Do tell us the teensiest bit about how you got on. That's like going up to the Atlanta Falcons list and asking about their chances in the World Series.

Mark
Shim and I are safe and well and living in Essex ;-)
Hey, they kept that one quiet!

Well, I hope this e-mail finds you all well, and I expect scads of Welcome Back Messages... [j/k]
Here, have a L.I.N.D.A. Snell Welcome Back Massage instead.

All hail, for I have returned [grin]
Hurrah!

Butting into Mark's territory in response to Marj
i never really understood the shim city thing...
A group of people who gather in Kansas City (you know, where they play football well - most of the time) organised by shim.

and now theres this ...and i really need to know WHAT OR WHO IS SHIM!!!
shimelle laine, the poster formerly known as juliet capulet, the laa-laa of the plains was a theatre and computer student at Pittsburg State Uni until graduating this summer. She's in a stable relationship with Mark (Frost), and is an all-round Good Egg. In a previous existance, a rumour started that she was engaged to the star of "Titanic", which explains why some references are to "Leo diLaine", rather than the usual moniker.

Sade recalls a song
It goes "she's got Bette Davis eyes..." I don't know what it is about it,
Swiftly pulling down the right CD... Kim Carnes, "Bette Davis Eyes", 1981. Her only UK hit, and (IMO) only average for her.

but I always think of MSCL when i hear it..
Mmm, it does have a certain spooky ring.

Nieske
Isn't Richard Krajicek the best?
Crackerjack! Oh, sorry.
He's in the bottom half of the draw, on course to meet Agassi in the semi-final. The only opponent of note could be Todd Woodbridge in the second round.

Craig
The Bloor-Annex area is one of my favourite places to wander aimlessly after dark in TO, especially this time of year when all the cafes and patios are crowded and all the panhandlers/squeege-kids become more aggressive.
They become more aggressive? Shoot! They were malicious enough when I was over in mid-March. Having twice as many of them being even nosier is scary.

Sasha
Janet has passed away.
This does take the wind out of my sails. And, for once, leave me quite stumped for something sensible to say. All that's left are the obligatory cliches: thoughts with friends and family, terrible loss, taken so young. The ones that have a ring of truth but leave so much unsaid - so much that's unsayable.

The best tribute I can offer is something that ought to be done off the list.

LMS: sunny & 18 * WC final: AUS -v- PAK, Lords, now

Ooh, I think I missed these. Credit is lost in the mush.
1)Hallie Loenthal-good for Graham or loud mouth brat?
Loud git.
2)Graham-neglected husband or whiny jerk?
Whine, whine, whine. If that's all you ever do, we'll have to take your corkscrew away.
3)Jordan and Angela or Jordan and Rayanne?
Jordan and Rickie.
4)Kyle- sensitive jock or boob-obsessed jerk?
The latter.
5)Tino- mystery man or phantom menace? :)
Mystery man.

An AOHellster writes:
all you people really need to get lives how do you sit there and right fiftey messages a day and read 200? It's insane
Practice, my dear thing, practise.

In ASCII art corner, Chelle, the First Lady of Cool Things,
=3D^..^=3D *mrow* !
Colour me stupid, but what is character 3D? My 7-bit character set isn't quite up to that mental gymnastics. What? It's an equals sign? =^..^=? Rii-ii-iight. Whatever, er, floats your boat.

Judy
How long should you wait for the expensive wallpaper? When will you stop waiting and buy the cheap one?
My eyes are set on the expensive wallpaper, and nothing else will do.

ole, au lait... whatever...

Craig
call me crazy
You're crazy. But why?

but am I the only one who can't watch the show on any other day but Thursday?
Well, I still think of Wednesday night as MSCL night. Even though the slot has been occupied by Po5 and Dawson's since.

I think later today I'll go wander up and down Yonge Street in search of sustenance.
If it's food you're after, and you're prepared to wander just off Yonge, find Greg's Ice Cream Parlour. It comes highly recommended. Just opposite the University stadium, on Bloor West.

For mental nourishment, you might want to try the second-hand stores north of College. Though I found Cabbagetown far more satisfying.

Kat
he's hers. i don't claim anything. i don't WANT him back... i realize that i can live without him. i don't need him at all.
Which is great and wonderful. So, why does The Other Womin inspire such rage? Because she's manipulating herself in a way she reckons will annoy you, and she's seeing she's right. How to stop it? Ignore her. Treat her as though she's not there, and you don't care. Like she's invisible.

[slight inspiration from alison moyet, apparently]

chelle's right. As always.

Jesse
my name is jesse from AZ
Hey, another Arizona type person! Cool!

i am a horrible typist
Donn't lrt that stopp you froj posting alott.. Spelling mistaikes are good. Even the deliberate ones.

ummmm.... and i know sara
Now we're interested. How do you know Sara?

what? the pineapple chunks were guilegud, brannagh, cosby and smart? (don't forget big dog...)

If I hint about her often enough, Lixz writes! For those following previous posts, I've been referring to a red and green stuffed lizard, named Cominsky Park. Then Liz Wrigley Field, after whom the toy was named, writes
I still exist though....now with much less hair.
Shame! Though I'm sure she's still uber-cute.

before going to London for nearly 3 weeks
As in, London over here?! Details! Meeting! I'm all aquiver and excited now!!

[deep breath, calm down]

Nieske
I passed my final exams. All of them!
Hurrah! Hooray! Well done!

Kenny: sun & 22 * AUS -v- PAK @448 Sunday
Bring the wind to carry me over, lead me home to my town

my town, glass tiger and rod stewart

David
I've never heard the word "doddering" applied to me before. Are adult male MSCL fans that rare a species?
Yes, we are. Off the top of my head, I think there's only a half dozen males known to be over 25 who post semi-regularly. This in a list of 170-ish.

Priestess Slayer Mighty Max Cory Falcon Pix, the Keeper of Kendra's one and only shirt, Laa-Laa of the Desert, and Defender of Dr Fox's Fiance, is confused.
Who is Dr Fox?
Dr "Neil" Fox is a presenter on Capital Radio, who also hosts the national weekly top 40. Like Rick Dees, or Casey Casem. He's also the presenter of a television show, on which Mr Loaf guests whenever he's in the country. Last time the two were on, they got engaged on camera.

Dr Fox is riding a motorbike.

she keeps explaining to me how the 25-16 thing won't work.
Back to the old drawing board, said Marvin Martian.

But I keep explaining to her that if I can't marry Prince Will, I want Seth.
Fine. You take Seth, I'll take Alyson, and we'll all live happily ever after.

have you ever been to Wales? Are you aware that it's on a different planet?
Your answers: yes, and yes. But not necessarily in that order. Even the capital of Mid Wales is strange; that's Shrewsbury, 25 miles over the border in (er) England.

Brendan
what did everyone do this weekend?
Get some book shelves. It may be a small thing, but it means my books can come out of their cardboard box existance and start living on the shelves.

splice later cooed about book signings being a great source of children's names, prompting speculations about ginger pods.

Geri Spice is #4.

If listeners in the UK can bear two hours of Edward and Sophie Rhys-Mogadon on Saturday, there's an extra helping of the Gamboshow on Radio 2. Followed, at 8, by Jewel in concert.

Brendan enquires
What's the difference between living and existing?
I can't top what Shannon wrote.

Do you live or exist?
On a good day, I live. Most days, it's more existance.

Is life without love no life at all?
I don't know: I've never been in that completely bereft place. Even at the lowest points, there's been someone who would offer unconditional support. Speth. Grail. Ali.

Do you have a philosophy for life?
Eat sensibly, slake your thirst, breathe, and crack one bad joke a day. People know when I'm in a bit of a state - the number of puns and one-liners goes through the floor.

Do you believe this is all there is?
Nope, there's more to be learned. Until we know all there is to know between us. Whether that takes one life, ten, or more.

With the World Cup starting on Saturday, we must hear from Betsy, First Lady of Soccer
i've finally graduated. and i'm not sad, not scared, not worried. I don't really feel anything. I feel just like... wow. I don't know. But it was a fun ride.
Hugs. And well dones.

Nieske. Marj. Iz. hugs. You know why.

Lady Victoria of the Sea
not that damn "song" again!
Sorry. But it's been knocked off the top of the foxy chart, and may well fall faster than a stone.

Quoting moi
>Named, in a bad pun moment, Cominsky Park.
Sorry, I don't know that one. Now Itchycoo park, yeah. :)
No, as in the Chicago ballpark. The one that the other side plays at. (Heck, lizard, windy city stadia - how many more hints do I have to drop to get a response!)

eat my goal was a moment in alan partridge's football world cup slot in "the day today" prog 4.

Ulrike! Welcome back. Back. Back.

angella being jordan's mis-spelling.

Nieske
I didn't hit a single tennis ball this afternoon
It's Wimbledon week next week. The tournament in which all 16 British representatives are knocked out in the first day's play. (OK, apart from the Canadian one. And the one from Oxford.) But there are a few spots left open for Brits, and it looks as if Nieske would qualify for one based on that performance.

alright, I did hit a few
Sorry, forget that, she's obviously too good.

Jonathan
Faulty memory, perhaps. I'll have to replace my chips.
I recommend the McCain Oven variety.

[/bad_bad_pun]

keyoneohthree
Knightmare came from Knightmare Chess, kinda like a game of chess turned inside out and upside down.
I don't know if you ever saw the "Knightmare" tv series in syndication, but it sounds your kind of thing. The plot, such as it was, rested on a kid wearing a blinding helmet walking around a bunch of virtual reality rooms, while three other kids guided him to clues and treasure. Like dungeons and dragons on the box. Quite a good show, all told, and some net resources.

[Knightmare, Broadsword Productions for Anglia, 1988?-93]

Naked Singularity is esp. good, imo.....based in some scientific facts that i don't remember
Argh! I should know this one! Erm, something to do with black holes that don't have the usual field of X-rays and gamma rays to show their existance. I think.

But then I'm just a doddery old stranger. More soon.

darling, cheesehead, i was yards too greasy. me ears are alight * knw: sun & 23 * today: pak -v- nz in the semis

musiquote is from a tape commercial, taking off desmond dekker's the israelites

1)Rayanne and Jordan- mistake or betrayal?
It was deliberate: betrayal.
2)Mr Racine - inspiration or bum?
Both. Quite possibly to the same people.
3)Sharon's parents- loving couple or sadomasochists?
Distinctly both.
4)Graham- gourmet chef or Betty Crocker wannabe?
The latter, if I take your meaning.
5)Amber Valone-genius or ditz?
Ditz, but not as bad as Phoeble Buffet.

Laura
1) Patty Chase: helpful or hurtful?
Hurtful to her children, helpful to the others.
2) The gun: hype or danger?
Danger, by its location.
3) Jordan: misunderstood or a big mistake?
Misunderstood, mainly.
4) Angela: analytical or self-obsessed?
That's such a fine line. Analytical. Just.
5) Brian: future scientist or porn star?
Porn star.

Judy
1) Graham, cheater or loving husband
Both. These are not mutually exclusive options.
2) Patty, caring mother or annoying clucking hen
The latter, mainly.
3) Danielle, cute little sis or irritating beast
Cute. Almost as cute as...

Slayer Priestess Cory Falcon Pix, the Mighty Max of the List, Laa-Laa of the Desert, defender of Dr Fox's fiance, watcher of Kendra's dodgy accent, 'fesses up
I was always a Geri fan.
Join the club. It seems to be, like, popular.

On Posh Sp(l)ice
>She looks too much like Neve Campbell for my liking.
No no, if she looked liek Neve it would be alright.
Well, this is true. But there was a point about 15 months ago when I did confuse pictures (plural) of the two. Around when NC had short hair, and Aadams had hers chopped.

you've grown old before your time and I'm getting younger by the day.
My dear Dorian Gray, how right thou art, wrote a picture.

anyone who gets as close to Willow as he does... *turns a slight shade a green herself*
Ya know, I coulda dressed as an eskimo when it was cold, too...

I guess emotional closure counts for something. ;)
Yes. It would. Hypothetically, of course.

Cory (who will return to lurking soon, she promises.)
Not if I have anything to do with it. (:

Cory, to Nieske
I'll marry you.
Hey, everyone remember where they put their wedding bells?

Tanvir
J'habite a Ruislip Manor which is north west London. Pretty little area.
IIRC, it is. Not too far from Lisa's abode. And handy for the occasional gatherings in Hyde Park.

euston square being the former home of c(r)apital radio, home of said djs fox and tarrant

Back to Lady Victoria
"Blister in the Sun" by the Violent Femmes. Not on the soundtrack, to my major disappointment. Neither is the Buffalo Tom (?) song played when Jordan takes her hand in the hallway.
Does anyone here have a decent copy of the So-Called Soundtrack? Way back in 1995, one of the then listies made a tape of the songs from the show left off the soundtrack, and distributed it to the other listies. I have a second or third generation tape, and its quality is poor.

Rose is dead
Hallelujah! [/tony_blair]

Tanvir
Which album is Blister in the Sun from?
"The Violent Femmes", 1983. Should be available fairly easy, and at mid price (10 quid.)

Jason
Why do so many mobile phone users think they have to shout in order for the other person to hear them?
Because they're talking to someone who's so close that they can be heard by shouting.

We hear
love, marj
She's back! The Flix-Daria-Emily-Marj is back!! Hurrah!!!

Sara
who is Suzanna Vega?
Rather wonderful New York female singer-songwriter. Famed for "Marlene on the Wall", "Left of Center", "No Cheap Thrill" and...

and what is tom's diner, other than the restaurant? :)
An acapella song from her 1987 "Solitude Standing" album, describing breakfast in a New York cafe. Set to an annoying drumbeat by some Bristol DJs a few years later, and turned into a massive hit. Here's a snatch.

#I am sitting in the morning at the diner on the corner.
#I am waiting by the counter for the man to pour the coffee.
#And he pours it only halfway, and I'm looking at the paper,
#And I'm feeling someone watching me and so I raise my head.

I look...well, i'm not sure how I look, other than 'sweet'.
Like Sara. Which is all we can expect or ask for. [hugs]

that will be the new musical express and addicted to noise

Crazy about Veruca Salt, love "Seether" and "Volcano Girls."
Chelle! More Cool Things!

I like my English muffins slathered with blackberry jam.
Quick, over here... Knife... more there...

(I'm going to kick the ass of the next person that tells me I suck!)
Well, in that case, there can only be one response. You suck. Now come over here with some hob-nailed boots (:(:(: >*O*<

Victoria is 20 years old, American, born and raised in WV, 5'4", long straight dark hair, big green eyes, nice straight white teeth, thin but not skinny, small scar on upper lip, small beauty mark on left side of chin, cleft chin btw, my speaking voice is nothing special, but I've been told I have a pretty singing voice, my hair smells like a combination of shampoo (Pantene if you care) and strawberry perfume, and if you look really deep into my eyes...
... you will not be able to resist holding and hugging her and treating her as someone special.

Victoria~~(just plain old me)
Lucky you. Like, to be you. It's something. It's a lot.

Laura G. Krantz
Is it better to pack too lightly or pack too much?
Pack light; clothes you can be reasonably certain of wearing, things you expect to use.

Should you leave room for things you collect on your way?
But of course. I very nearly had to buy a second suitcase to transport all my belongings back from Toronto.

What does Laura G. Krantz refer to?
I'll nominate Mark, please.

What is your opinion of Mtv?
It should have been ondigital from the start, not joining at the start of next month.

Do you think sarcasm is understandable via email?
Not in the slightest.

You see my point?

Really?

Have you heard the song 'Millenium'?
Yes. About 100 times, and I've tuned it out maybe 300. It was all over the radio for six weeks before release last summer, and kinda got to be grating. Until I flew to Toronto, found it all over the radio there, and kinda grew to like it. Still not a patch on "Angels", though.

Andrea
I prefer VH1 now, and 5 years ago or so it would have been the other way around.
Ah, but haven't you grown five years since? Does that have anything to do with it? From my experience, I know I preferred MuchMoreMusic to MM, but I'd still take both home.

Betsy
how old are you?
You know the answer.
Girls: what color are your nails? do you like this color?
Flesh colour. It'll do, till I stop biting them.
Boys: How long is your hair? Do you want to cut it soon?
Beginning to grow at the back. I'll cut it in 6 weeks or so.
Does anyone watch wrestling?
Not I.
Was anyone as disappointed as I was that last night's episode was not the first episode of the Real World, but some lame casting special?
It was? Must have missed that one.
Has anyone ever made out in the parking lot of the facility in which he/she works in?
No, but I have in my old school grounds.
When is your next dentist appointment?
Dec 15, midday.
If you were a piece of candy, what would you be??
Probably a gobstopper. Goes on, and on, and leaves a strange taste in the mouth.

Paulo
Maybe there is an option to generate filtered digests?
Not that I know of, unless you're prepared to let someone else filter them manually. Which isn't really an option.

I don't really know which web-based email services have filters and which ones don't
Do: hotmail, yahoo, iname, splendiferous, and their offshoots. I don't have an excite account, so can't comment.

There now follows a message to the writers of the Friends finale. Is it possible to end the season in any other way? The correct answer is yes. Please follow the advice.

Marj
I'm starting to recover a little bit from being financially screwed over, again by my ex
That is just the worst, isn't it. Sympathies.

Skeie!
We have a DJ in seattle who does not think that women should be allowed to breastfeed in public!
Is that a music-and-idle-chit-chat DJ, or a speech station presenter? If it's the latter, then do consider that she might be saying it only to provoke a reaction and encourage callers. A form of acting, if you like. If it's the former, then she's in the right job, just saying too much.

Deca
what do DJ's do or don't do when they're bad in your opinion?
A good presenter will draw the listener into a world of their own, ones similar but slightly different from the real world. A good presenter will know their material inside out, and be able to act as though there's no script. Someone like Terry Wogan (who plays records), or Paul Franks, who doesn't.

Skeie!, then Kevin
hang the dj, hang the dj
gulp
"The DJ", in this case, was the inane, vacuous, dumb-assed national radio DJs that Britain was infested with during the 80s. Especially Tony Blackburn, apparently.

Kelly
and my mother's grandmother was from Nothern Ireland, which is considered BRITIAN
There is no "considered" about it. Northern Ireland, the six counties, are part of Britain. They are as much a part of Britain as England, Scotland or Wales. They will remain a full part of Britain until such time as the majority request to leave, then they will be allowed to determine their future. It's exactly the same process that happened to Newfoundland, just after the war.

Brendan
get advice from my doctor about dealing with the heat in America.
1) Stay in NF. It gets warm, but no warmer than home. And trust me on the sunscreen.

Boyzone have done some great cover versions including Father And Son and You Needed Me.
I'd disagree on F&S, but give them credit for "Love Me For a Reason" and "Baby Can I Hold You...". "Words", however, cannot be done well by anyone.

Nieske
Look Victoria, they even have a day in honor of you over there!
Well, not exactly. It's officially known as the Late Spring Bank Holiday, which is a singularly dull name. Just as the one at the end of August is the Late Summer Bank Holiday, but is more accurately described as Tip-it-down-a-rain Day.

Jonathan
How do you feel about customer service representatives with accents so thick you can't understand them?
This is a tough call, coz what's understandable to one person is incomprehensible to someone else. Clearly, if they're employed, then someone understands them well enough to give them the post. But if they're not able to be understood by a lot of people, they're failing in their job.

I've never encountered this problem, but I'd be tempted to fire off a polite letter to head office, detailing my experiences. If it was a premium rate line, I'd ask for the cost of the first call to be refunded, at least in part. If it happens to me a lot, business will go elsewhere.

LVotS
I'll be going on V mode Sunday.
Shame. Shame.

Going to the beach next week!
Ooh, ooh, is there a Victoriacam anywhere (;

how did Brian get a football jersey
Bought it, or hired it. Wouldn't borrow it.

Especially the lizard, real or stuffed?
Stuffed, with mainly red and green markings. Named, in a bad pun moment, Cominsky Park. No prizes for anyone who can explain why; I have no budget.

Nieske and I tried to share a man once before and it didn't work. However, if you'd like us one at a time, I may consider it. :)
>There's eighteen months' stockpiled hugs waiting here.
I'm on my way! ;)
In which case, Nieske, I'll have to return to you later. Possibly much later. You know how it is with the letter S. And you have Bob. People called Bob are full of surprises.

Marey Poppins is here! Hurrah! Now, will she tell us the story about the stupid camel's fragile 'lastic vexing Andrew, hosier?

Craig, welcome also.

Tanvir
did Brian ever lend Angela his jumper/sweater and then say, 'Just don't -- sweat in it...'
Yes. Father Figures, I think. But may well be wrong. Though Jeff agreeing with me is a tad reassuring.

Bob
a new partnership between Myself and Shana. We will henceforth be known as "The Fickle Team"
I would apply, but (er) I'm too fickle to stay.

David
I'm 27 and from Toronto, Canada
Hurrah! for Toronto! Though I've not been in the city since the start of NATO -v- Serbia, it's a great place. Probably the second best in the whole country.

it takes more than physical attraction * LMS: sun & 18
weaver posts are a mail-list exclusive. copyright mcmxcix

musiquote: osmonds, love me for a reason

We also find out what links a device one should use to keep tidy figures of the inhabitants of Toytown; and the lead singer of famous Codsall band Slade.

full info: voting in the netherlands and denmark was also friday.

We hear from
Shana~ who wants to be a vampire again!
1) Call Lixz. 2) Meet her. 3) Don't call Cory, she will only slay you. And that would not be good.

Speaking of our Priestess Slayer Etc
If you could go to any concert this summer, who would be playing and... whcih MSCL character or character would you take with you? Why?
Playing: Jewel, Twain, the Barenaked Ladies. Hanging out with Sharon, who's clearly a Lillith-esque-ite.

one of the off-shoots of that is that Chris has become close with one of my oldest and closest friends.
This sucks. Badly. [hugs]

it's times like these when I miss MSCL like crazy and wish I could just sit down in front of a marathon and cry and be comforted by the familiar faces, and voices, and all the memoires I have, because of this List, connected with those eps.
If it were possible to invite you round to mine, where there are six tapes and 19 episodes, I would.

Victoria, first lady of the sea
if it's a delicate, ditzy female you want, I can try and pretend to be one.
Don't bother. There are plenty of those elsewhere. We need strong, intelligent people. Oh, that would be you.

Sara
what's a doppelganger
Someone who looks exactly like you, and is a carbon copy of you. It's a wee mythical beastie.

On the road to elimination: Nieske
People
Any in particular, or the lot of them?

Angela
Frozen pizza.
For those of us who don't have the time to cook yet still desire to consume a respectable pizza, this is the best compromise.

Boom boxes.
With you on that one.

Rap music
And that.

The amount of time Howard Stern is allowed to speak
Who is Howard Stern. He's nothing over here.

Those tee shirts with CANNABIS on them
Tedious. And - let's face it - clear evidence of Illegal Activities.

Little girl's clothing that should be labeled "Whorewear"
And that.

Jason
Pot Noodles
Plastic food for plastic people. There was a time when I'd eat one only when "Gladiators" was on. May say something...

Mobile phones that play a tune when a call is received
Mobile phones full stop. It's too late to stop them getting their tinny hands on the Flintstones, Scooby Doo and Top Cat. Stop now, before Bagpuss gets it!

MTV (replace with a channel that plays more videos and without those annoying presenters)
You want M2 ($kydigital), or UK Play ($ky and on)

A*********o writes
a crock of SH**!
Out of the mouths of babes...

Is it true (guess who) PAULO got accused on the censored list of being Alfredo last week?
I refer the hon. gentleman to the answer he gave a moment ago.

it later turned out that the robbery over the road was opportunist, using the distraction caused by the scare

the news this morning didn't say anything
Bring Back Larry Jay! Don't let him take a vacation! (;

Laura
the experiences that give you goose bumps.
The Channel Four Daily theme music (now my computer's start-up theme). McGwire and Sosa and the end of the last baseball season. Buffy. Thinking of home.

referring to the newspapers

Do you sunbathe?
No.

Do you feel the sun has power?
Of course. It makes things grow, and forms much of the power behind the life on this planet.

What is on your desk?
Four small pebbles, three collected from various beaches in NF, one from Southend. Some shades. A mini Eiffel tower. A multi-coloured lizard. A card promoting Bell Canada, handed to me as I was flying off the north Quebec coast. A pencil sharpener with a pink daisy that winds up and spins, from Covent Garden when I was there with Lisa and Eli. The Friends desk calendar.

Deca
Who'sarrummmbabummbenammmmumsenwood? -- SHAFT!
Hey children, let me sing you a song...

Jo on her parents
Another side of their unconventiality is that they are hippies who stayed married to each other (no screwing around either!) - Not bad huh - still lovin' after all these years!!!!
Happiness comes to all sorts; my aunt and uncle are committed Christians (ok, ok, Methodists:) who have 22 years of marriage behind them. And my parents mark their 30th anni in 20 months. [Shoot, better start planning something.] Maybe it's something in the Midlands...

Brendan
Emergency situation at the radio station.
Middle Of The Ocean Radio Plays Decent Song Shock!

Computer support guy said the problem can wait till later this morning. I don't wanna be fired. What to do?
Bring up the backup service, RTL Oldies. (Is that still the emergency backup, or am I thinking of the Algerian station also on 252?)

Sasha, then Chelle, the first lady of cool things
> 7. Kylie Minogue - Impossible Princess
leeeaaavvee... kyyyliiee.... aaaatt .... hoooooommmmme
I'd beg to differ. This has the Manic Street Preacher collaberation, Some Kind of Bliss. Which is the best thing she ever did.

Victoria, first lady of the sea
from the bottom of my butt, 'cause it's bigger than my heart
On a point of order, Ma'am. This is clearly not true. The evidence is before you.

Intrepid Appealing Insane New-to-me
Huge Undertaking Goes Spectacularly.

Tanvir, a quick word. Please fix Outlook Express to stop sending the pretty backgrounds. To those of us using another email program, (yes, such things do exist) they emerge as attachments. And they often emerge as piles of garbage at the end of your message. Drop me a line if you need more help.

Ariel, First Lady of Not Finding Hobnobs
Did you mean the Bay (department store), Bay St, etc and if i could find them, i'd surely guide hobnob seekers to their treasure :)
Dammit, I knew I should have brought my Downtown Toronto map with me. You need to go to the Bay store on Yonge and Queens. (or that area) Head to the food section on the PATH level, at the far end from the subway station. Then, alas, I can but advise you to study all areas carefully. You're looking for a box, not a shrink-wrapped pack like the UK variety. When you find it, take it to one of the smiling cashier people, pay a lot less than I did (especially considering the transport costs:), take them home, and enjoy their company.

Iz
the concert i would love to go to is queensryche
Goodness, we're all coming out of the woodwork here. I had a taped tape of Empire, but it snapped a few years back. I do still have a 12-incher (oo-er!) of Silent Lucidity, in shaped packaging. But no Jet City Woman, sadly.

LVicotS
I like a little of just about anything.:)
yeah, we know.. (;

Emily, on English school years. Well, she's not...
do you still get two months off, and just go back later, or is the schedule completely different?
Well.. when I was there, and for the next few years, the terms were:

First week in September - December 20, with a week or so off in late October (the odd concept of "half term")

January 6 - a few days before Easter (either the Friday or Wednesday before, depending on how early/late Easter is). Half term last full week in Feb.

Two weeks after breaking for Easter - late July, with the week containing Victoria Day [last Mon in May] as half term, and May Day [1st Mon in May] as bank holiday.

The year's meant to add up to 190 days for kids. Teachers have five extra days to work. There are plans afoot to reorganise into five terms of seven or eight weeks.

like, the one at which brendan passes time...

Nieske
invite some "old" friends over, and have a party
Well, seeing as how you guys are some of the closest friends I have who can get here, anyone turning up will be more than welcome. In fact, I can let my space for weddings, funerals and namings. Though I'll probably be too busy with the catering to enter conversation. ):

Looking back over archives, it seems I'm not a million miles from Jo
if anyone who knows me and/or feels like sending energy, it would be much appreciated.
Seeing as how it's now sent at local rates (:

Angela
only a DOZEN sent recipes!? I'm calling each one of your mothers...
Mine will tell you she knows I don't cook. Neither does she.

Shobi, speaking of "Buffy"
The show is that good, but frankly the ratings aren't
They are over here! Even with a crappy 6:45 slot (why do the schedulers insist on this fundamental error?) on BBC2, she gets 3.2 million viewers, around 8th for the channel. The first episode back on WOK ONE pulled 845,000 viewers, behind only new Friends and Simpsons, and ahead of ER.

Come on all you male listees! Can't you see she's desperate? How can you fellas resist that puppy dog look? Take my Nieske, *please*. ;)
~~Victoria~~(single and on the prowl)
What, when there's this prowling brunette around? Hey, I'll take you both. What? You've done this before? And liked it so much you'll never be able to repeat it? Hey, Chef, you kick ass!

~~Victoria~~(thinking of a warm English muffin)
Where's my jumper. And my coat. Whack the fire up, too... (;

I was trying to get dark brown and ended up with jet black (plus a few blonde streaks where I missed). But the guys at school seemed to like it. I got asked out more after I dyed my hair than before. ;) And I looked really pale, too. Like a vampire. Which probably explains most of the guys that became interested in me. :)
Oh my... Hello, vampish nurse!

Any one want to comfort me?
There's eighteen months' stockpiled hugs waiting here.

Nieske
what do you think if your male friend is smaller than you are
Wouldn't bother me too much. OK, I'm 5'10.5 (180cm), and I've only met a few womyn taller than I am. But it's what's inside that counts, not the packaging.

And that Toytown tidier and Slade singer: it's a Noddy Holder.

KNW: cloud & 18 * setting the laser printer to stun

Well, as you may have gathered, I've moved over the weekend. Said goodbye to Codsall, my home for the past twenty-ish years, and hello to Leamington Spa. Geographically, it's a trip of 40 miles south-east. Emotionally, it's a lot further.

Having a place of one's own is always a big step. In my case, the transition was somewhat forced by my work relocating, but that doesn't make the dislocation any more easy.

There are many good things about this place: I get to sleep an extra hour, there's a cinema (two, in fact) within walking distance, stores that stay open almost right round the clock, and Hyde Park bandstand is two hours away, rather than three.

But what I have here is a little too large for me. I'm rattling around inside a spacious one-bedroom flat. It's empty. It's devoid of life. I'm skulking in corners, as if someone else should be around.

Those of you with long memories will recall that I had plans to set up flat this summer, in company. Some of you may know that I planned to quit work last weekend to do that. The more things change, the more they stay the same, somehow.

But the bottom line is that I'm here, here is where I'll be staying. If anyone wants to send mail, write me and an address will be forthcoming. And if anyone has ideas on ways to turn a House into a Home, please let me know.

Kenilworth: showers & 17 * be it ever so 'umble...

Sara
Posh spice is funny looking.
This is true.

She IS the prettiest of the bunch
This, I venture, isn't. Mel C seems much more pretty, while Geri had more of a something than Aadams.

but she isn't pretty at all.
She looks too much like Neve Campbell for my liking.

On Essex Uni
getting in this fall - so I asked her about that, and she said, oh yeah, thats no problem - we have some people applying still in October
Take my sister. She applied for a theatre course in the second week in August, had her interview the following week (not waiting for any exam results helped) and got formally accepted by the end of the month. June is plenty of time; there's a mad scramble to fill courses in August, and if you're not waiting exams, you have a major advantage.

more: wvr-news 99.4.25

Back to Ms Hailgood, Nieske
And what's wrong with the video?
The resolution on the CD-video is way below video standard. This is what happens when one tries to play half-screen videos on a full screen!

Kat, on a strictly non-exclusive basis (I'll acrostic anyone's name: longer poetry requires more committment)
Can you try Katarina?
Krazy and T'riffic Alternate Rocker is Now Around.

Yes, I'm new.  Hi everyone!
Greetings.

Priestess Cory Falcon, the Laa-Laa of the Desert, Mighty Max Slayer of the list, Defender of Mr Loaph and Watcher of that way cute Kendra
I'm sixteen, too.
You have ten more years till you're as old as your name is long. At the rate it's growing...

But I'm an overlooked oldtymer, so I'm not really a youngun
You're younger than me, so you're a youngun.

E-flat
My dear old thing. [hugs] Mmm..mmm..mmm.. Eurosong A (442 Hz)

Though now you mention it, OZ did mention something about the E-flat diminished ninth being a real man's chord. And he gets chain-fed chocolate by Willow. Some guys get all the luck ):

I'm still doin' some crying about it, and writing poetry and things. I'm just, you know, accepting it's overness.
You got some form of closure. Back to green tinges.

can I say I'm peckish for Hobnobs?
Ariel, did you find the Hobnobs in Bay downtown? Would you be able to guide Priestess Cory Falcon (etc) to them should she visit?

On soulmates
the person who makes your cells scream out, every time they touch you, that this is what's right, and this is what's forever, and your whole body knows that this is deeper tahn anything you've ever felt.
She knows, you know. [more hugs]

Andrea
I got an 88% in the class, which should be a B+. He said he bumped me up because I was close to an A.
As William G Stewart says on every programme, "Even the guesses count."

The Wixzard of Salliwoo is back. Hurrah! Isn't the weather terrible right now.

Lady Victoria of the sea
I'm already a green-eyed monster. Well, I have green eyes, at least.
Under the right (wrong?) light, I have green eyes. Under others, they're blue. Most of the time, though, they're grey.

the name and dark hair are the only similarities Posh and I have, except maybe for the bad singing voice. :)
Don't do yourself down. Even though I've never heard you sing, your voice must be better than Aadams'.

On Brendan
have you actually seen his ass? Is it really pat-worthy?
It is an ass. All donkeys are worthy of patting.

Any other artistic listee males out there who'd like to adopt a Victoria? :)

On a strictly non-exclusive basis, as before: Very Ironic: Crazy Twentysomething Objectster Ravishing Irish's Acrosticism.

Or something.

Emily
I'm baaaaa-aaaack. And you all thought you'd escaped my way-too-long posts.
As the bloke responsible for more way-too-long posts, I can't escape the things.

Once you get into June, time just seems to draaaaaag
Just think how bad it is for us Brits, who stay in school till mid-July. But still find it drags from the middle of June. (There's a week off last week, so it doesn't drag just yet.)

Laura
"Look out of any window any morning, any day."
There are at least four songs from which this comes.

you snobby and pretentious Europeans
Pretentious? Nous? Hmph! [/miss_piggy]

Deca
where is Bronwyn? I haven't heard from her for ages and her classic globalserve email addy doesn't work.
Last I heard, she was alive and well and working way too hard. And might be over in Wales later this summer.

Brendan
July 31st 1999. Easy to remember. Plus it's the last day of the last summer of the milennium.
A mathematician writes: The heck it is. The last summer of the millennium occurs in the year 2000 in the Northern Hemisphere. The last day of any summer occurs on one of five dates, depending on which flavour of calendar you're following:

Gregorian: Always July 31.
Julian: August 15, until 2099.
Celtic: First day of Coll (August 6)
Lunar: New or Full moon nearest the mid-point between solstice and equinox - in this case, the Eclipse moon on August 11.
Astronomical: September 23, when the ecliptic crosses south of the equator.

Jonathan quotes his former teacher
"Never use a permanent solution to a temporary problem."
Mmm, but isn't life a temporary problem? And is death a permanent solution? Or is it just fear of the unknown that presents it as such?

I'm curious to ask everyone out there what they think about funerals.
I've never actually been to one. The only ones possible were my grandparents', but they clashed with external exams and school was reticent about giving time off. From reports, I don't think I missed anything over-significant.

taking off william g stewart, host of 15-1

Are you good at giving directions?
Yes, if it's a road I've travelled before. Yes, if I've got a street map or well-annotated diagram. No if I'm trusting to memory. There was a time last autumn when I needed to navigate from the Aston Expressway to the Aston Villa football ground. It's a journey of about a mile. But I headed off on totally the wrong road, and ended up five miles away. It was a boring company bash, and my driver and I both wanted out, so we did.

Are you good at following directions?
Yes. Clear directions to start with help, but I'm able to search and work from what I do know to what I don't. Writing down the wrong destination number does not help, though. As I did on arrival in Toronto.

Do you get lost easily?
More easily than a hamster.

Do you wear a watch? What kind?
Yep, it's a six-petalled flower, with pink background that has little ridges that catch the light (and also mark out every 5 minutes). Way cool, way too tight, and only a tenner.

What is the most recent thing you did in your life that was brave and a bit wild?
Move house.

How did it feel?
More details tomorrow.

Have you heard the song 'Canned Heat'? Thumbs up/down?
Yes, he said through gritted teeth. It is Jamiroquack. It gets turned off at the first opportunity.

Do you own it?
No.

Does it have a meaning to you?
Some people will buy anything.

Brendan
Just form an orderly queue, and I'll take care of you as soon as possible!
Why am I reminded of the horse Cigar? Top-rated, expensive, had all the fillies after him, but turned out to be firing blanks.

I'm a real man - I have fully operational bits and everything.
So that's what happened to Dana International's danglies.

Victoria
what does ' zig a zig ah' mean?
If you have to ask, you may not want to know.

does a pretty good Cher
Even through the voice distorter thing? The one that makes her sound like a Dalek. "Where Is The Doctor? You Will Obey. Do You Believe In Life. After Life. Exterminate."

It's like Romeo and Juliet around here.
Yeah, but this is a) unfolding before our eyes, and b) uses common or garden English. It's gripping.

feeling like a Capulet
Oh, back into the "Wild Things" take-offs, are we? (;

I'll tell you this much: the whole Victoria an' Brendan double-header is a wonderful spectacle. It's more entertaining than BBC Knowledge.

Miss Victoria (while she still is)
I'm going to the Tori Amos/Alanis Morrisette concert in Atlanta, GA
Cory, you finished with that jealousy stick yet?

Shana
still can't believe that one bad choice ended in this marriage forever regret the day she said it'd be okay to see other people
Hey, at least you let Victoria go (;

Angela
spending a relaxing evening playing Hide The Cutlass with The Pirate
Oh! Good one! Of course, pig farmers would play Hide the Sausage, dairy farmers would make some milk, and British Beef farmers would tuck themselves up in bed with a hot cup of Horlicks. Everyone said they were mad...

Brendan
I have heard Too Many Broken Hearts in the World
Ohmygawd, it's a Jason Donovan fan! Run! Hide!

KNW: rain & 15 * aaah won't give up the fight for you
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Gary on the bible
has there ever been a perfect translation to the english language from the latin it was originally written?
No, because it never was originally written in Latin. The part billed as "Old Testament" was first scribbled in Hebrew, the "New" part in Greek and Aramaeic (sp?) Latin was the lingua franca of Rome, but not used for day-to-day conversation in much of the empire.

Laura
Have you seen the film 'Maverick'?
I've never seen it, but one of the kids I taught way back when was always asking if I wanted to borrow his video.

like, "maybe you're crazy..."

Nieske
I'm from the Netherlands (aka Holland), that crappy little rainy country that couldn't even win the Eurovision Song Contest...
You've not excluded the UK yet... but then we enter the (cricket) World Cup twice and can't progress to the second round ):

(Why did that stupid barbie doll win?)
Erm, maybe because she had an instantly accessible song that lots of people voted for? Though I'd still have preferred Estonia.

Claire
finland never has any success in the Eurovision Song Contest! We weren't even allowed to participate this year!
Which means you'll be back next year. Remember: Israel won in 98 after missing two years; Iceland came second this year after not taking part last time. There's a lot of hope for Finland, especially with lots of neighbours taking part.

Maybe we'll beat our dear neighbour-country Sweden next year... in my dreams!!!
Keep dreaming! Or find an absolute killer song.

Brendan
I wish to lament my county's result too! We started off well, getting the first "douze points",
It was from Lithuania. It almost doesn't count. But at least they were able to conduct a successful televote, unlike (er) Ireland. They had to rely on the votes of their Standy, Backup Jury. Incidentally, out for next year go Lithuania, Poland, Portugal, Bosnia, Slovenia, Belgium, and Turkey. That's assuming there are seven returning countries (Finland, Switzerland, Greece, Macedonia, Hungary, Czech, Slovakia) and the contest stays down at 23 songs. Austria or Cyprus may be out if Latvia makes a return. But Italy, Luxembourg and Russia are out next time, as they didn't show the contest this year.

We ended up with like 18 points! I thought the winning song sounded abba-esque. Anyone?
Very much so. The piano riff from "Waterloo", the sax from "So Long", and the harmonies from the bridge of "Hasta Manyana". Total, utter ABBA take-off.

I've never even heard the Irish entry!
Count your blessings. It's obvious the RTE didn't want to win this year. They want to let the BBC Scoreboard come out again next year. Though we might not have Ms International cocking up the end again next time.

Nieske
I still think that song "the voice" was totally brilliant...
Agreement from here.

Hoping for another Irish entry like that!!
Again, Estonia's one reminded me a lot of that. But only came 6th ):

Back to Nieske, and the eclipse on 99.08.11
I've been checking out newspapers and stuff, about the eclipse, and it says it's going to be really really crowded in the south west.
On the other hand, there were reports a couple of weeks ago saying that the scare tactics were so much that the SW would be no more busy than normal for August (which is too busy, IMO.) You takes your chances...

According to my diary, Birmingham will max out at 93% totality, Chelmesford at 96%, Liverpool at 90%, Exeter 99%, Edinburgh just 82%.

[To break the mood a little, this needs divorcing from the rest of proceedings. It started with someone chastising other people for using public fora to gain the sympathy vote; it would be impolite to personalise this matter further by using the original quote.]
And you haven't, X? You've not tried to curry favour with your tales of woe? Have I? Of course I have. I've asked for support when I've needed it; sometimes it's been forthcoming, sometimes it's not. Right now is tetchy, not least coz I'm moving house over the weekend (into a flat of my own.) But I'll get through

Paulo on the luuurve calc
their source code is available... voila!, you can find the source code in C. The only problem is that, since I don't know C, I couldn't understand a word of it...
I don't know C that well, but I'm trying to follow the general gist of it (:

From what I can see, it's based on the length and/or vowel-consonant count of the names. Order seems to matter, as me an' Chelle ranks at 87%, not 75% for her an' me. Which leaves an extra 12% of get well soonnesses around.

If L is the total number of letters in your name, the probability is worked out as a fraction of (L+2), with a max of (L+1)/(L+2). That makes my top score 93%, and I've found one of them. No prizes for guessing whom.

Slate.com has been looking into this phenomenon (check out the Chatterbox item) and found...

Romeo and Juliet--98%
Zeus and Hera--27%
Antony and Cleopatra--85%
Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky--27%
Bill Clinton and Hillary Rodham--23%
Gwyneth Paltrow and Brad Pitt--54%
Gwyneth Paltrow and Ben Affleck--91%
Prince Edward and Sophie Rhys-Jones--97%
Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie Presley--85%
Michael Jackson and Michael Jackson--22%
David Duchovny and Tea Leoni--65%
Frank Sinatra and Nancy Reagan--14%

Judy, dix points
I'd rather be single (and maybe desperately in love) than together w/ someone I don't love just that I can say I have a boyfriend! Sorry, maybe you didn't even that w/ what you were discussing.
Again, it's a point that was in the back of my mind. Having a boyf/girlf is over-rated. Shock! People can be complete by themselves! There's no over-riding need for some other blighter.

And Victoria
Sorry if I am nosing in on the discussion here,
Don't apologise for butting in! If everyone held their tongue unless they were invited to say something, then nothing would ever happen round here.

but I'm a 'spinster' (at the age of 20) and proud of it. I'm not saying I'll never get married or anything, but being single is better than being trapped.
Being single is better. Full stop.

Of course, sometimes I think I have commitment phobia, but that's another discussion.
What, like Chandler Bing off of "Friends"? [turns to York] Hey, Lisa, what's your comment?

You're the second one on the list (hello Brendan! :) ) to make a spice girls reference. I'm feeling picked on! :)
Och, bless. Who do they think they are, stepping to you, slamming it to the left (and shaking to the right, if I'm not very much mistaken), going "zig-a-zig-ah". It's all too much!

Jonathan
So impossible is the person getting over the deserting partner?
Nope, nor the deserter returning. Both are possible. That is my point!

Kelly
For everyone who hasn't had a relationship yet, don't worry!! Statistics are on your side...95% of Americans get married at some point in their lifespan, and 93% have children.
You make it sound as these are desirable goals. Why? What makes them inherantly desirable? Don't 86% of American marriages end in divorce or murder, 92% of children end up having a hellish life, and 109% of these statistics are made up?

if you are not an AMerican-i am sure statistcs are on your side anyway.
Indeed: 1) You're not a United Station. Well done. You win. (;

Dreaming: most vivid one recently featured the regular cast of Buffy, being turned into vamps by means that was never quite fully explained. A process reversed by vomiting the vamp's blood back up, as discovered by Willow. Make of that what you will.

Brendan
In America, the best songs from Robbies albums were put together on one CD which they called The Ego Has Landed. I don't know which songs are on it, but yeah, it's bound to be good.
All the singles except "Freedom", plus a half dozen of the better album tracks. And all for $14 from Sam's. Snippage!

Isn't public humiliation just the worst thing?
You don't say.

who loved Victoria Adams before she cut her hair
Sometimes that haircut works; sometimes it doesn't. Aadams is in camp b.

and dated a footballer!
OTOH, it means Bucketofwaterham is dating one of the few people more famous than himself.

Owing to a pending move, I won't be posting amongst you until early next week. So, later...

"It's over the fireplace, Annie! No! Don't sing!" * BHX: sun & 18
Numbers of the day: 1, 7, 38, 151.

telequote: treasure hunt, with anneka rice