AOL INTERVIEW His followers were
part of the first fad of the '90s,
according to Time Magazine as it recalled
the zealotry with which tykes and
teenagers first embraced pint-sized
anarchist Bart Simpson. Eleven years
after The Simpsons clan first put the fun
back in dysFUNctional family, the FOX
animated sitcom has become the
longest-running cartoon comedy in
television history.
When
creator Matt Groening first envisioned a
hyper-naughty rascal who could make
Dennis The Menace seem like a choir boy,
he was a 32-year-old newspaper
cartoonist. With the premiere of his new
animated sitcom Futurama, set in Y3K,
Groening tries his hand at comedy outside
the confines of Springfield, every state.
Entertainment Asylum spoke to Groening
(rhymes with complaining) about life
before and after Homer, Marge, Bart, Lisa
and little Maggie and what the future
will look like.
Entertainment
Asylum: Before Bart was even a
mischievous twinkle in your eye, you
wrote a comic strip called "Life Is
Hell."
Matt
Groening: Yep, and I still do it. It's in
about 250 papers around the country and
on the Internet. I don't know why, but I
still do it. I started "Life Is
Hell" in 1980. So I've been doing it
for 18 years, every week.
EA: And
you've also published a blitz of books
"Life Is Hell,"
"Love Is Hell" and "Work
Is Hell." So tell me, what exactly
is so hellish about being Matt Groening?
MG: Well,
I grew up in the Pacific Northwest, and
it's so beautiful up there that I thought
that's what the rest of the world was
like. When I first moved to Los Angeles,
I was unpleasantly surprised at how dirty
things were and how, on every level, life
in Los Angeles was uglier than the
Northwest.
EA:The
Simpsons really renewed my faith in
television. What do you think accounts
for its success and Simpson-mania?
MG: We
were exactly in the right place at the
right time. The FOX network was brand
new; they were trying to find an identity
and willing to take chances. I don't
think a show as wild and uncompromising
as The Simpsons could get on the air on
any other network and, certainly, would
even have trouble getting on FOX today. I
know that because I'm doing a new TV
show, Futurama, and I'm [encountering]
all sorts of attempts by the bigwigs to
try to water down the show.
EA: How
did you first conceive of The Simpsons
characters?
MG: I grew
up watching way too much television. I
figured the only way I could justify all
those wasted hours was by actually going
into television. So then I could say that
that was research. I loved all those old
family sitcoms like Father Knows Best,
Donna Reed Show, Leave It To Beaver,
Ozzie And Harriet. And I always
fantasized about having my own TV show.
On Leave It To Beaver, my favorite
character was Eddie Haskell, Wally's evil
friend. Dennis The Menace started out
with this animated version; I was very
excited when that show first came on and
very disappointed with what was actually
shown because it was so mild. And I
thought it would be neat to do a show
about a kid who really was a brat. So The
Simpsons is basically a result of
watching all those bland family sitcoms
and doing my mutant twist to them.
EA: So
what exactly is Futurama?
MG:
Futurama is a comedy set 1,000 years from
now in new New York City, which is built
on the ruins of present-day New York.
Many things are different in the future:
pigeons are extinct, but owls are an
incredible problem. The future in some
ways is very much like right now. It's a
mix of great things and really horrible
things. The story is about a guy named
Fry, a pizza delivery boy who
inadvertently gets frozen for 1,000
years. And we see the world through his
eyes. He gets a job as a delivery boy in
the future, but for a company that will
deliver any package basically anywhere
throughout the universe. So we have all
the components of science fiction TV
shows, movies and books: we have robots,
ray-guns and rocket ships but with a sort
of Simpsons twist.
EA: How
will life be different in the future?
MG: Well,
the future is full of big promises. But
gadgets don't always deliver as expected,
so there's a lot of faulty gadgets.
High-definition is still just around the
corner ....What we're trying to do is
tell science fiction stories which both
honor the genre and have fun with it. The
Simpsons has basically two kinds of
characters: very feisty kids and a lot of
somewhat tired, middle-aged grown-ups. We
completely left out teenagers and young
adults in The Simpsons, and that's what
Futurama is populated with as well as
aliens and corrupt robots.
EA: So
what's different about the animation on
Futurama?
MG: Well,
Futurama is very similar to The Simpsons.
It has a similar sensibility, but the
animation is far more sophisticated.
Futurama is the result of all those years
of apprenticeship on The Simpsons.
EA: Can
you talk more about FOX wanting to water
down some of the elements?
MG: Oh,
water down is not the right word. They're
just a lot more nervous than they used to
be. They chew their nails a lot more in
1998 than they did in 1987 when I first
started with The Simpsons on the Tracey
Ullman Show.
EA: What
were the initial reactions to The
Simpsons? Bart was no doubt considered a
horrible role model.
MG: Yeah,
he was a bad role model. But there's that
age-old idea: should the artist paint the
world as he would like it to be or the
way he really sees it? And, well, I do a
comic strip called "Life Is
Hell," so I do come down on the
"paint the world as I see it"
side. I don't think Bart is a good role
model, and I don't think Homer is a good
role model. What is good for kids is good
storytelling, and I'm proud of the
storytelling.
EA: Do you
have children of your own?
MG: Yes.
EA: Do
they watch the show?
MG: Yeah,
they love the show. They love it way too
much. I have two boys, aged seven and
nine. When I get up in the morning and
come down to breakfast, they're watching
tapes of the show. And the rule now is
"no Simpsons before breakfast."
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