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Sloth
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no i didn't check for any leaks. I just wanted it fixed for the ride down to the shore. but i did buy a can that had some leak stop in it. So far it still works for me.


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Etylorcen
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What kind of dye would you need to put it through the system. I believe I have a leak but I'm not sure about finding out where the problem is.

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What kind of dye would you need to put it through the system. I believe I have a leak but I'm not sure about finding out where the problem is.


The dye that I used came from an auto supply store like Auto Zone and it was red.

Don't worry too much about finding the leak....believe me if it is big enough you will have red dye dripping out onto the ground.

If you want to spot check look in these places:

1. In front of the radiator where the lines connect to the Condenser and evaporator.

2. On the Compressor itself.

3. Behind the battery. Yes there is a hose here that I think is an A/C line, but it may be for the heater.

Hope this helps.


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Etylorcen
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Ok guys I just checked my pressure and its at an amazing 110psi. Way in the red zone on the gauge. The ac system is still how it came from the factory and hasn't been messed with. Anyone know whats up w/ this? Or can I release pressure somehow? I can hear the ac compressor turn on when I push the ac button.

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Sloth
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hahah, it might help if you check the Low pressure side. the one like right infrond of the header. it is blue with an L on it. If that is the one you checked then i think you got a problem.


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Etylorcen
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Yeah I am checking the low pressure side. Someone on hondatech had the same problem but no one responded to his thread.

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Sloth
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well maybe your guage is messed up. try another guage and if you still have the same problem and your A/C works fine, then i would just let it go since you said you bought it off a dealer like that.


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Can anyone with a helms manual help me out? Still waiting on mine.

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Ok guys I just checked my pressure and its at an amazing 110psi. Way in the red zone on the gauge. The ac system is still how it came from the factory and hasn't been messed with. Anyone know whats up w/ this? Or can I release pressure somehow? I can hear the ac compressor turn on when I push the ac button.


ok i realized what you did wrong when you checked your system. i went out to check my pressure to see if it droped any and it was up in the 100's. Now the problem was, was that i checked it with the car off. So you have to turn the car on and put your a/c on to high. then wait about 3 mins and check it. let me know if this helped you.


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Etylorcen
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I let the ac run for a while and its still pretty high. 70ish now. Is there was a way to bleed off the r134 in there and start w/ some new r134?

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My A/C project...

Alright, first let me start off that when I first got the car I knew nothing about it. All I knew is that I wanted to install my new intake, clear bumpers, and my system. Well, I was young and foolish and couldn't get the cap off of the wiring on the firewall, so ok, find a new opening or make your own opening, right? There's a nice opening in the metal backed by felt just to the right of the battery, lets stick a knife thru there and see if it comes out on the other side... ok, do it up... :sssshhhhhhhhh:: Uh oh, what's that? Oh crap, the knife is really cold. Pull it out quick! ::PSHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Well, there's a nice puddle of jellied refridgerant on the floor of my friend's garage now, and a heavy gas on the inside of the car. This discharged the whole system. After that happend, I removed the A/C compressor to have less parasitic drag on the engine, because of the ignorance that the leak would be expensive to fix.

Well, nearly 3 years later, I spun a bering, which broke a rod and put a hole in the block, so with the engine out, I decide to completely re-vamp the car, and since I'll be taking a trip out to socal this summer, and today's high temp here in Denver 101, I think I need A/C to get there thru everyday summer and the desert. I take a look in my ghet-oh haynes manual, and find out how to find these mysterious A/C parts inside my firewall. As it turns out, the evaporator is located between the glove box and the battery. First step? Remove both halfs of the evaporator, which is in 2 parts: half black, half white. It was a lot easier with my engine out (not so much) and my seats out (especially the passenger one). The Evaporator box was held down by about 10 different screws and bolts, 1 of which was impossible to reach w/o a 10mm long socket and a long 3/8 drive extension. Then you have to split the evaporator into two to take it out of the dash.

It turns out, the knife penitrated the evaporator core. The Evaporator works much like a radiator in the fact that the refridgerant takes the place of the coolant/anti-freze, and the air thru the front grille is replaced with the air from your heater/AC blower. When I opened up the black casing of the core half of the evaporator, there was a bunch of debris in the form of leaves, stems, and other crap that falls onto cars, which as I found out, made the air coming out of my vents smell pretty foul. It's like having a compost pile inside your car. But the best part was when I took it into Mile High Acura, I got leaves all over their parts counter. After finding out that that evaporator core will cost me $192.00.

That was that, so now the evaporator is on order, and I know that all 24oz of R134a are gone. Now that I've taken everything apart on the system, I can tell you where to look for leaks. First, there are 2 R134 A lines that runn under your intake, under your battery, and connect to the evaporator behind the battery on the firewall. Look there. Another place is behind your left headlight. There's a flat aluminum plate w/ 2 aluminum lines downdrafting into it. Look there. Then look down in front of the engine on the compressor, and also on the H and L valves.

Well don't know what else to add, that's my experience w/ the A/C, I'm going to have to recharge soon, the part should be in next Friday.


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xero-cool
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Originally posted by Etylorcen
I let the ac run for a while and its still pretty high. 70ish now. Is there was a way to bleed off the r134 in there and start w/ some new r134?


ummm you can try this...

if you got the R134a recharge kit you should have a hose that connects to the low pressure side of the A/C. Put the hose in there with nothing on the other end and pssshhhh you can bleed your refrigerant.

However that's going straight into the atmosphere so it's up to your conscience (how to spell) there. I personally would not do it that way unless I have like 0 dollars in my bank.....to do it the right way

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gptintegra
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Couple of questions to all

Man I never thought that this thread would go so far!!!

A couple of things or my two cents.

1. Before bleeding the system, check to see that you had the guage hooked up properly. We already discussed the high pressure side, but there is another possibility your system registers so high. When you put the recharge system together, did you use all three components? You know the guage, 134 can attachement, and the recharge hose. If you connected the guage to the valve that attaches to and pierces the can, this may be your problem. Make sure you only connect the guage to the recharge hose. If you only have the two connected I would say the guage is bad - assuming the a/c was on full blast and the motor was running.

2. Don't release the refrigerant unless you are absolutely sure the system is overcharged. Remember with a PROPERLY working guage the system should be below 40 psi. As far as releasing the 134 into the atmosphere.....WHO CARES. The fucking EPA enforced that 134 be "Ozone friendly" so fuck recovering it....you don't get shit for 134. R12 is the refrigerant you want to recover...you can get a shitload of money or upgrades for your car this way. I hear it can go well over $100 per lb. of R12 (freon).

Hope this helps.


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xero-cool
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Question condenser fan and compressor

got another question,

I got the gauge and it read low so I proceeded to fill refrigerant to my system. After adding refrigerant the A/C is now cooler.

However, when checking the pressures again after recharging, it reads just at 25 psi when the compressor and condenser fan is running and then after a while the fan will turn off and the pressure will rise moderately slow to about 35 psi when the fan and compressor will turn back on again.

Is this normal? Or should the compressor and condenser fan be on all the time?

Also, I haven't added the 2oz of oil for the second can (12oz) of refrigerant that I added. I will be doing that soon before I use the A/C again but might this be causing the problem?

thanks

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Sloth
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the compressor and fan should be on the whole time while a/c is on. try adding more r134a to the system. and check your guage out. because if your compressor comes on and then shuts off its because the low pressure switch is turning it off.


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