Kevin Pollak is one of the
greatest stand-up comedians you'll ever see. That is, if
you're lucky enough to catch one of his old routines on
Comedy Central. The man who does the definitive William
Shatner imitation is now best known for his relatively
serious roles in Avalon, The Usual Suspects and A
Few Good Men. In his latest film, Deterrence, Pollak
plays it straight, once again as the President of the
United States flirting with the prospect of nuclear war.
I got a chance to sit down with the Commander In Chief, and we talked about the
ultimate seat of power, lessons from Denzel and how hard
it is to convince directors that he's really funny.
How did you
like playing the most powerful man in the free world?
The best part of it was (director) Rod Lurie calling and
saying, "I'm writing this script with you in mind.
First of all, you're playing the President of the United
States." To which I said, "That's absurd.
That's ridiculous." But then I heard the story and
realized he was being created as an everyman as opposed
to this larger than life, born to be a natural leader,
overly charismatic hero a la Kennedy or Reagan. This guy
was more like Truman.
The exciting part was finally having the opportunity to portray the main
central character in a movie which is something I wanted
to prove to myself I could do. But it wasn't something
that I was desperate for. My wife and I have this theory
that the leading man will always need a best friend so,
if I'm smart, I can continue working just fine.
Did you bone up for
the role by watching things like Fail Safe
and Seven Days in May?
I'm not real big on research, and I certainly didn't want
to base him on anyone. I just feel a responsibility to
the written material. If I'm going to portray a
policeman, the idea of driving around with cops for six
weeks has just no bearing whatsoever on the policeman
that the story is about. This was a fascinating story
that has a lot of reveals and twists, and my
responsibility was to win the audience over in the first
20 minutes to get them to somehow care about this guy.
And maybe if I could get a few doves to question,
"Well, maybe he is doing the right thing"--if I
could just get them to slip on the ice until the drive
home when they said, "Wait a minute; he was an
insane man," that would be great.
Now that you've
played the President, what qualities do you think are
most important for the job?
I don't get the whole thing. I don't get that whole
epiphany. "I'm going to be the single most powerful
man in the free world. That's gonna happen for me."
Excuse me? I thought you had to have an insane ego to
even want to portray the President of the United States
in a movie. That is insane to me. That is legitimately
nuts. Like, "I'm going to marry a Martian"
nuts.
And then Clinton, of
course, just opened it wide up. By saying, "Its good
to be king. Bring her on. Line 'em up. This is
great." I imagine him sitting in the White House
those first couple of years saying, "Okay, alright.
This is good. I'm President
there has got to be a
way to make this whole deal just a little bit
sweeter."
Were you tempted to
go for more laughs with this character?
I don't have this comedic desperation. In A Few Good
Men or, certainly, in The Usual Suspects there
are opportunities for me to turn a phrase to have a bit
more volume on the sarcasm, but it just didn't make sense
with this guy.
Do most people
expect that from you? Is it hard to break out of that
funny-guy persona?
You know, it's a strange thing with my career. I only
wanted to be an actor, and I got sidetracked into
comedy--of which I was a huge fan and student without
realizing it--and I spent 20 years in the trenches of it.
And then Avalon, overnight, established me as a
legitimate actor because I was guilty through
association. All the other actors in the film were
tremendous film and stage actors. So, everyone was asking
my wife, "Where did he train in New York?" And
we just laughed. So, somehow, I have to convince
directors that I know funny now. It's really weird.
If this nuclear
thing was going to go down for real, who would you want
in charge--McCain, Bush, Bradley or Gore?
Not to be coy, but I wouldn't want any President in this
situation. If you're going to put a gun to my head, it
would be arbitrary. I would have no choice but to fall
back on my party and my candidate, which is Al Gore. But
I pray to God, as we all should, that no President ever
finds himself in this situation. That would suck in a big
way.
You talk about
wanting to play funny again. Do you ever sneak into the
clubs and do your stand-up act anymore?
I continued doing stand-up until just over a year ago,
and it wasn't a decision to stop--that was just the last
time I did it. I've now gone the longest time in the last
25 years of not doing it. And I keep waiting to miss it.
I quit doing nightclubs about seven or eight years ago,
but I continued doing one-nighters and college
engagements to keep my toe in it.
Maybe the reason I
don't miss it is that every three or four months I have a
movie coming out and so I do talk shows. I have a writer
friend, and we write material to perform from the couch,
so that might be feeding that monster. But the plan is to
never, ever stop.
After more than ten
years of feature films, you're finally a leading man. Did
you feel the added pressure?
Because of the low budget, because most people were
working for coffee and donuts, there wasn't too much
pressure. Maybe to my benefit, I had to wait
thirty-something films for this. I've been in the on-deck
circle in my mind and was well prepared. Like Rob Reiner
puts it, "Learn while you earn." And I've
learned from a lot of masters.
Can you share some
of that wisdom with us?
I remember being on the set of Avalon. It was my
birthday, and Barry Levinson pulled me aside and said
(Pollak does a dead-on imitation of the director),
"So how old are you? When I turned that age I was a
writer on the Carol Burnett Show. So I'd say
you're doing pretty good. I'll tell ya, after this movie
I think you're going to be very happy. Maybe you should
not do anything wacky. Try to avoid hijinx after this
film."
So I did a little math
and figured out he was saying, you have an investment to
protect now," and I learned a lot from that.
There's little bits
from everyone.
I learned something
from an awful film I did called Ricochet. Denzel
Washington and I played best friends. We were heading
toward production and about two weeks beforehand I get a
call, "Hi, it's Denzel. Listen, we're playing best
friends in this movie. You want to go out and get a
bite?" It was a small, little gesture, but it spoke
volumes.
From Tom Cruise I
learned generosity and discipline.
From Jack Nicholson I
learned you can absolutely have a tremendous amount of
fun while working on a movie and turn it on when the
cameras roll. And then turn it off and be a huge
screw-off.
My whole career has
been based on taking from others.