1. Chins
by: Ken Roberts <SAILOR@webtv.net>
2. Re: HIT Digest, digest #61
by: Daniel Streett <daniel.streett@stu2.hillsdale.edu>
3. Re: HIT Video
by: DrewBaye <DrewBaye@aol.com>
4. Re: HIT Digest #43 - Heavy Duty bulletin
by: David Atkinson <datkinson@picknowl.com.au>
5. New program + diet
by: Mr. Negativity <zoo@seanet.com>
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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 19:33:43 -0800
From: SAILOR@webtv.net (Ken Roberts)
Subject: Chins
Right on Andrew Bay! If someone is having trouble doing one chin up then
the answer is for that person to do machine assisted chins or (supinated
grip) pulldowns until he/she aproaches a weight equalling their own.
Worked for me.
Ken
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Date: 13 Dec 1997 18:47:03 -0500
From: "Daniel Streett" <daniel.streett@stu2.hillsdale.edu>
Subject: Re: HIT Digest, digest #61
RE>HIT Digest, digest #61 12/13/97
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>D>ate: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:24:15 -0500
>From: bszymanski@minolta.com
>Subject: Dorian Yates
>
> Hi.
> It has been written on a couple of favored well-known websites that
> Dorian Yates uses HIT. Well, I have Dorian's Blood & Guts video,
> showing him work out for an hour or so. One thing I can say is, he
> ain't HITting! He's pumping through a grueling workout of multiple
> sets, multiple exercises, and normal rep speeds.
> Which brings me to my point. I would like to see a video offered
> showing REAL HIT training as described in this digest, in Cyberpump,
> and by Mike Mentzer. Throw in some Super-Slow stuff, too.
> I'd like to see some real people with real results which they really
> got from HIT.
> I wonder if anyone else on this digest would be interested in a video
> like this?
> Whaddaya think?
>
> Bill
Bill,
You raise a good question about Dorian yates. As far as I know (and from
articles in FLEX), he is no longer trained by Mike Mentzer and is certainly
not using Mentzer's new HD2. If this is incorrect, please somebody correct me.
I love your idea about a HIT video. I believe Arthur Jones put some of Mike &
Ray Mentzer's, and Boyer Coe's workouts on video. I wonder if they're still
around?
BTW, I am in college and started using HD2 about 2 months ago after being out
of lifting for about a year and a half. Since I started back, I have gone from
230 to 255, my leg extensions from 150 to 225, my Nautilus Curls from 70 to
120, just to name a few. All this in 2 months, or 15 workouts of approximately
20 min. each!
Dan
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 00:35:45 EST
From: DrewBaye <DrewBaye@aol.com>
Subject: Re: HIT Video
Mike Mentzer, M. Doug McGuff, MD, and SuperSlow instructor Greg Anderson are
currently planning to do a series of seminars across the US. I have suggested
to them that they videotape these seminars, and eventually put out a video.
While nothing is for sure yet, it sounds like a good possibility. Also, there
are definite plans for a SuperSlow instructional video, although we are not
sure when it will be produced. As of this time, I am not aware of any other
HIT instructional videos available.
Nautilus (the old Nautilus, during Arthur's reign) had a large number of
videos of seminars, clinics, and research on tape, but they are extremely hard
to get a hold of. I contacted Arthur to try and locate footage of the Nautilus
study at West Point: Project Total Conditioning, but he does not know where
any of it is, or if it even exists anymore.
You might try contacting Nautilus 1-800-682-8458, as they may have some of
this in their archives.
Last year, we were visited in Orlando by a videographer doing a documentary on
HIT. He plans to marked the video in the muscle comics when it is produced,
although I have no idea when this will be.
Andrew M. Baye
www.superslow.com
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 17:39:03 +1030
From: "David Atkinson" <datkinson@picknowl.com.au>
Subject: Re: HIT Digest #43 - Heavy Duty bulletin
>Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 06:57:29 +1300
>To: "cyberpump@geocities.com"; <cyberpump@geocities.com>
>From: Paul.Englert@vuw.ac.nz
>Subject: The Heavy Duty Bulletin
>
>
>Has anyone subscribed to Mike Mentzers Heavy Duty Bulletin? Is the magazine
>worth its weight in gold or does it merely repeat his current writings?
>
>Paul.
>
Yes I have subscribed to it. I received my first copy about 6 weeks ago.
It's 30 pages long and contains: editorials (2 pages), articles (14 pages),
book reviews (6 pages), inspirational quotes (2 pages), adverts (5+ pages)
and of course the cover page. The articles were:
[1] Emotional Development, Fitness & Health. Part I. by MM. I've already
read this article on his web site. ( 3 pages)
[2] Strength Testing: Part 1. By Arthur Jones. I like reading his articles
and this one was reasonably interesting but I thought it was a bit too long
for a bulletin of only 30 pages and I don't think it had anything in it that
could be directly applied to my training. I get the feeling I've read this
before but I've read a lot of his articles of so I can't be too sure (8
pages)
[3] Program Evaluation. By Brian Johnston. Tells you how to
evaluate various workout programs from the point of view of intensity,
volume, duration and frequency. (3 pages)
Several of the quotes in the quotes section have already appeared in either
Mike Mentzer's books or his web site.
The bulletin was reasonable interesting but I would have to say I was slightly disappointed. I think I was expecting to see some more training advice and no repetition of material I could find elsewhere.
I'm not sure if I'll renew my subscription next year. I'll wait and see
what's in the other issues.
David Atkinson
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 14:55:38 -0800 (PST)
From: "Mr. Negativity" <zoo@seanet.com>
Subject: New program + diet
First off, I'd like to say that I have really enjoyed this digest, so much
that I've stopped reading misc.fitness.weights (Which is basically crap
anyways unless you're stalking Rob Schuh), there's a lot of useful
information on here. Anyways, I have a couple questions, one regarding a
split program, and another regarding diet. And I'm warning you, this is
friggin long :)
First, here's the routine I've been doing for the last 2 months or so, one set to failure with 30-60 seconds rest in between sets. I also pace myself between workouts until I'm fully recovered from the last, usually 3-4 days:
Day 1: Squats, Bench, Chins, Leg Curls, Calf Raises, Standing Curls, Laying
Tricep Extension, Reverse Curls
Day 2: Deadlifts, Military (On a Nautilus Smith machine), Straight Leg Deadlifts, Rows, Dips, Nautilus Curls (IMO the best machine besides the pullover), Leg Extensions (Which I've recently dropped), Calf Raises
I've gotten good results from this program (Usually go up at least 3 reps every time), but I've been thinking about going to a split routine with 2-3 days between workouts (Which I know I can handle easily without overtraining). I'm thinking of doing this for a upper body routine:
Bench
Chins
Deadlifts (I know they work your legs but for me it doesn't seem to work
them so much that I couldn't recover within a couple of days)
Rows
Laying Tricep Extensions alternated with dips every other workout
Standing Curls alternated with Nautilus curls
Preacher Bench Reverse Curls
And here's my idea for a lower body:
Squats (2 sets)
Straight Leg Deadlifts
Leg Extensions (If I'm just working legs I don't think they'd be that bad)
Calf Raises
Military (Just because when I do military and bench on the same day I
usually end up doing one half assed)
Here's my dilemna. I love both kinds of deadlifts (SLD's work my hamstrings
better than anything else), and I know that the lower back takes about a
week to recover (from research and experience), so what should I do about
balancing them? I was thinking of trying to alternate the straight leg
deadlift with Nautilus leg curls every other workout, just doing one a week
(And replacing regular deadlifts with shrugs or something for my traps when
I'm doing S.L.D.s). Does this sound like a plan? Any other suggestions would
be appreciated.
Okay, my second question. I've been following the zone diet for a while and it's done wonders. But while following Sears recomendations of eating 18 blocks (I'm about 155), I did lose fat (11% to 8%) but I have that wonderful genetic disposition that lets me store all of that 8% on my stomach. Also, eating only 18 blocks (Keep in mind besides lifting, I also run 3 miles 2x a week, kickbox, and walk my pit bull and springer spaniel about 2 miles a day) worked at first, but after a while I started feeling lethargic. I upped my blocks up to 20-22 (Which equals 1 gram protein per pound of lbm for me) and felt a lot better. I started the ECA stack about a week ago to try to lose that annoying bit of fat (My upper abs and obliques show real good but the rest....), so I'm wondering if I should keep my calories where they are or drop them? I've heard ECA burns fat without losing muscle regardless of how you change your diet and I'm wondering if that's B.S., i.e; it would be possible for me to gain some muscle while I'm losing fat (And I know otherwise that is basically impossible). thanks in advance.