1. Re: Dorian Yates and HITting
by: Kdragon9 <Kdragon9@aol.com>
2. Re: HIT Digest, digest #62
by: Sandeep De <sde@golden.net>
3. (HIT digest ) Do Slow Reps decrease sports performance ?
by: UDONNOJACK <UDONNOJACK@aol.com>
4. Rest between sets
by: Kalle Karppinen <k24567@kyyppari.hkkk.fi>
5. HIT #62
by: Gary Bennett <74663.2777@compuserve.com>
6. Help, please.
by: Alan D. Smith <cf051@cleveland.Freenet.Edu>
7. Difference between HIT2 and HIT?
by: Jon Parry-McCulloch <jm@public.antipope.org>
8. Special Populations
by: Amtmann John <JAMTMANN@po1.mtech.edu>
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 15:00:22 EST
From: Kdragon9 <Kdragon9@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Dorian Yates and HITting
What do Arthur Jones, Mike Mentzer, Ray Mentzer, Dr(s) Ellington Darden,
Ralph Carpenelli, Ken Huchins and last but not least Dorian Yates have in
common? Everyone of the afforementioned inviduals without exception utilize
the HIT philosophy in their training and clearly state the HIT philosophy in
their writings. All of those individuals adhere to the basic HIT principal
that exercise must be Intense, Brief and Infrequent to be productive. In this
context I am referring to strength training. This concept seems to be harder
to grasp than the Theory of Relativity and Nuclear Physics all wrapped up in
one. Whatever name you decide to call this type of training be it Heavy Duty,
Super Slow, Blood and Guts etc. all refer time and time again back to the
ABC's of HIT (Intense, Brief and Infrequent).
As Far as BLOOD AND GUTS the video Dorian uses 1 WORK set to failure on
all exercises. All the sets preceeding his 1 set (as stated in the beginning
of the video by the heavily accented British narrator) are used as warm-ups.
And if Dorian worked out for more than an hour during his workouts the tape
should have been over 4hrs long not 90 mins. Another desperate attempt to
point out HIT isnt used by "Elite athletes". By the way Bill u want to see
pictures of people who use HIT check out the Rose Bowl. Michigan and their
second Heisman winner Charles Woodson utilize HIT (oh yeah I forgot only old
people training on machines use 1 set) as well as 40 % of the NFL, and UFC
champ Ken Shamrock.
Se
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 23:08:10 -0500
From: Sandeep De <sde@golden.net>
Subject: Re: HIT Digest, digest #62
> From: SAILOR@webtv.net (Ken Roberts)
> Subject: Chins
>
> Right on Andrew Bay! If someone is having trouble doing one chin up then
> the answer is for that person to do machine assisted chins or (supinated
> grip) pulldowns until he/she aproaches a weight equalling their own.
> Worked for me.
> Ken
But not necessarily for everyone. Doing a chinup on two metal guide rods is not the same as functionally moving your body through space. I'm sure if someone cared enough the EMG activity of the muscles of the upper back and upper arm would be far more active in the free chinup. The muscles neglected in the machine chinup would therefore be a weakness in the kinetic chain of the free chinup - consequently, your strength is limited (i.e. strength of prime movers is always limited by stabilizers). In my own experience, machine chins overload my biceps and rear delts more than my lats and upper back muscles. My chin up strength improved by doing chins, not machine chins. Furthermore, a female friend of mine who could not perform a single body weight chinup subsisted regularly on machine chinups - but when we started doing negative only chins with her body weight with significant time under tension, after only 2 weeks of training, she could perform 2 full repetitions with her body weight during free chins. This was after she had plodded away for 3 months on end with the machine chins with no visible progress at all. I think specificity has to be considered, in that one has to address whether or not their inability to perform a free chin is due to a lack of stabilizer strength, a lack of prime mover strength, or a combination of both. All three, imho, are improved most effectively with unstable, compound movements where stabilizer involvement is maximized.
Sandeep De
The Power Factory - http://geocities.datacellar.net/HotSprings/4039/
"Pain is weakness leaving the body." - Unknown
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 03:41:55 EST
From: UDONNOJACK <UDONNOJACK@aol.com>
Subject: (HIT digest ) Do Slow Reps decrease sports performance ?
Has anyone read the latest Poliquin article in muscle media? He states using slow rep training is good for gaining muscle but it only stimulates the type 2a twitch fibers and not enough of the 2b fibers . Because of this he states this will slow you down in explosive sports . Is this scientifically correct ? Would`nt more muscle mean a stronger and faster contracting muscle ?
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 10:41:36 +0200
From: Kalle Karppinen <k24567@kyyppari.hkkk.fi>
Subject: Rest between sets
I know that HIT advocates short (30-90 secs) rest between sets. Now
why do you think is that. I don't think I can go all out on a set (as
required by HIT) if I don't take at least 3 minutes off. What are the
disadvantages in a program like mine? Of course, it doesn't develop my
endurance but that's not why I'm in the gym.
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 08:41:35 -0500
From: Gary Bennett <74663.2777@compuserve.com>
Subject: HIT #62
Response to "Mr. Negativity", HIT Digest #62.
Hey, have you checked out the Zone web page (www.enterthezone.com)? There
is a section in there called Zone Central where people exchange info about
the Zone and their experiences with it. There are two sections in ZC that
deal with bodybuilding. These aren't necessarily people who use HIT, of
course.
As for me, I used to be 157 lbs with 21% body fat. Today, I'm 156 lbs with 13.5% body fat. I'm not where I want to be, but I don't look anything nearly as pathetic as I used to. I've used a cyclical approach to gaining muscle and loosing fat: while bulking, I loosely follow the zone with more starchy carbs; while cutting, I follow the zone closely. It's the only method for losing fat I've ever tried in which I didn't feel lousy and wasn't losing too much muscle. I believe a person could just follow the zone and gain muscle while losing fat, but it would be a very slow process. This may actually be what you want, because you'll feel great all the time.
Best wishes,
Gary
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 12:52:55 -0500 (EST)
From: cf051@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alan D. Smith)
Subject: Help, please.
Hi, All,
I have been getting the digest for about 3 weeks and really
appreciate all the great information. Now, more than ever,
I need the help of our list experts. This may be a tad long,
so I apologize in advance.
A little background: I will be 50 in April, started lifting July,
1994, and have only regretted not starting many, many years ago.
I have gravitated towards the HIT/HD ideas because they work
better for me than anything else I've tried.
Hurt my right shoulder in August doing Medx laterals. I eased
up but didn't stop using my right shoulder and things, of course,
got worse. I went to the Doc who said it was the dreaded
rotator cuff and got me started in PT. That was in early
October. Twice I got the shoulder almost pain-free, and the PT
added a new exercise which almost immediately put me back 2-3
weeks; very frustrating.
Got an MRI last week and the results today: 1) partial tear of the
supraspinatus 2) AC arthritis 3) "stenosed coracoacromial (sp?)
arch. On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being the worst, he rated the
tear a 4-5.
His plan: Stop all PT and do nothing but very light stretching for the rest of this month. January 1 start PT program again and proceed very slowly. I have an appt with him 1/21, and if no major improvement, he suggests going under the scope.
For the record, I did rehab my left shoulder using the "7 Minute
Rotator Cuff Solution," an excellent book, IMHO.
What I am looking for is thoughts/ideas from anyone who has faced
something similar; comments from PT's, MD's, Ph.d's, MBA's, EE's,
AFL-CIO's, whatever are appreciated. There is a tremendous data
base in this group and all comments welcom.
Thanks,
Alan
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 13:16:47 +0000
From: Jon Parry-McCulloch <jm@public.antipope.org>
Subject: Difference between HIT2 and HIT?
Greetings,
What is the difference between HIT2 and plain old vanilla HIT?
Jon
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 97 14:13:00 M
From: Amtmann John <JAMTMANN@po1.mtech.edu>
Subject: Special Populations
Hello! This is my first interaction with the HIT Mailing Digest. My topics
of discussion would include:
1. Women and HIT:
I've been recommending to women the same HIT methods suggested for men.
Some of the women i've been working with are 40-50 years of age and have
been cleared by their Doctors for exercise. Are there any recommendations
or specific workouts any of you would like to share?
2. HIT and the elderly:
Has there been any research concerning the elderly and HIT? I'm aware of
numerous studies which support improved strength, balance, bone mineral
density, cardiovascular changes. However, i don't know of any research done
on HIT specifically (one set to failure, 4-8 exercises). Any suggestions?