HIT Digest #75

This digest contains the following messages:

1. Re: Used Nautilus Equipment
by: DrewBaye <DrewBaye@aol.com>
2. Re: Heavy Duty Precision
by: reptile <reptile@blast.net>
3. Re: Heavy Duty Precision
by: DrewBaye <DrewBaye@aol.com>
4. Heavy Duty maintenance
by: Erkki Turunen <eraturu@mail.dlc.fi>
5. Re: HIT Digest, digest #74
by: WILLI6767 <WILLI6767@aol.com>
6. Re: Volume Training
by: Brad Collins <bcollins@hotmail.com>
7. Abs and HIT
by: Mark Vidor <markvidor@email.msn.com>

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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 11:26:43 EST
From: DrewBaye <DrewBaye@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Used Nautilus Equipment

Jon Ziegler, and anyone else interested

<< Does ANYONE know where the graveyard for old Nautilus machines is located. Preferably A spot in Northern California/Northern Nevada. I would be interested in purchasing a used pullover machine, the old plate loading kind is fine. >>

Used Nautilus equipment can be purchased at relatively low prices directly from Nautilus (800) 628-8458. For refurbished Nautilus equipment retrofitted for SuperSlow (brass bushings, sprockets and chains replaced with bearings and kevlar to reduce friction, and cams replaced by newer ones with far more accurate resistance curves) call SuperSlow Systems, Inc, at 407-260-6204

I do not know anyone in Northern CA or NV who deals in used Nautilus Equipment. I do have the number of a person in Seattle who has a large number of used Nautilus pieces, including the plateloaded pullover. Email me at drewbaye@aol.com for more information.

Andrew M. Baye

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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 11:37:56 -0500
From: "reptile" <reptile@blast.net>
Subject: Re: Heavy Duty Precision

Kevin,

> I have used Heavy Duty virtually all my training life [nearly 20 years],
> yet I still have trouble determining the 'precise' amount of exrcise &
> frequency required.

Regardless of what "specific" type of training you are using (i.e. Heavy Duty,
Mentzer, etc.), don't you think that your training stimulus required to gain the
most mass might "change" over the course of 20 years?? Maybe it doesn't change
in the least for you - but maybe it does. I have clients who train very similar to the way they
did years ago - but their schedule for training allows less time for workouts, their attitude
towards training is different, their diet has changed, their body shapes and recovery period differs. It seems you are trying to trying to find a magic formula - go with what works for "you" personally, at each stage of your life and don't be afraid to change it and try new activites. Keep track
of your progress and stick with what gets results.

> I totally believe in Mike Mentzer's concepts as they are scientifically
> sound and have more rational behind them than any other system I have
ever
> heard about. But the issue remains; what is the 'exact' [minimal] amount

If one scientist could determine the "exact" amount for "every" person - male or female, at any age -
he/she would be rich by now and relaxing on the gulf of Mexico somewhere. You answered your
own question Kevin - "But the issue remains." Of course it does. (Ever hear of individual differences or genetics, illegal drugs or poor research??) What the research gives us is guidelines - great guidelines - to follow and change to suit our needs. My personal opinion is: determine your goals, structure a safe workout, plan a schedule that works for you (days/time per week), keep track of your progress, follow the scientific guidelines and change them as you need to in order to find an effective routine.

Happy 1998 Everyone!!
Ms. Rachael E. Picone
= )

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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 11:39:37 EST
From: DrewBaye <DrewBaye@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Heavy Duty Precision

Regarding the determination of the precise volume and frequency of training you require, you might wish to read the articles Dose/Response, parts 1 and 2 by M. Doug McGuff, MD on Mentzer's web site, www.mikementzer.com

Andrew M. Baye

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Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 19:54:34 +0200
From: Erkki Turunen <eraturu@mail.dlc.fi>
Subject: Heavy Duty maintenance

Mike Mentzer promises one to attain his or her potential in one year or less with his system. Thus after that no improvement would be possible. So I'm asking what's Mike Mentzer's recommendations in maintaining what you've got?

Erkki Turunen

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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 14:36:05 EST
From: WILLI6767 <WILLI6767@aol.com>
Subject: Re: HIT Digest, digest #74

Advice anyone. I just turned thirty and have worked out all my life. I have a MS in muscle physiology and have always been reluctant on asking advice. But I've been following your HIT homepage for about a year and have really been impressed with what you have to say (especially those Weider commentary's).
Through college and while training for football I thought I had tried all the routines there was, but of course I was wrong. I followed the HIT principles for about six months and was impressed with the results. I got results quickly and spent less time in the weight room. I even introduced two of my friends to the principles and at first they were tough to convert. "How can I get stronger and bigger by spending less time in the weight room, your nuts." was their first response. However they are now semi converted hitters.

Now to my question. I have moved and have been getting reestablished for the past 6 months. In that time I have negelected my body (6'3", 230 #'s at15% BF now, I was 220 @ 11%). I have never gone this long with out a steady program, and it's has definately influenced my moods and waistline. I sure could use some advice on a good program after such a long layoff. My goals are simple, 225 at 10% BF in six months and I'd like to learn to play the piano. Any ideas?

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Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 13:17:36 PST
From: "Brad Collins" <bcollins@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Volume Training

>Using a machine press I am failing in my 8th set. I have
>continued on for 10 sets going to failure with each, with diminishing
>number of reps in each succeeding set. I'm wondering if this is
>incorrect. Should I just quit when I fail and decrease the weight the
>next time or... what?

What is going to failure here? In my definition, for true failure one would (and likely could not) not want to do more than 1-3 sets. I also think there is some "learning" to being able to push yourself to your true limits. People don't realize that they PACE themselves when they know they have in this "volume training" a bunch of forthcoming sets. There is enough variation using HIT where one should not have to resort to such "waste of time" measures for continued gains. HIT is not simple by any means. Let's see there's rep speed, negative only training, rest between sets, switching exercises, changing rep schemes. And variation within those I listed. There is no reason to resort to such nonsense routines.

Do you need to go to failure to make gains? No, of course not. Especially the newer you are to training with weights. But, don't be surprised to find out that the more advanced you get the more INTENSE you must work out to continue to eek out gains.

Brad

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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 20:27:32 -0800
From: "Mark Vidor" <markvidor@email.msn.com>
Subject: Abs and HIT

Happy New Year,

I've been using HIT for a month now....can't say if it's working, but
it makes sense. I have a few questions regarding Ab work:

1) Will doing side bends with 70 lb plates give me love handles? 2) Does HIT work for Ab development or should I be doing more reps and sets than with the rest of my body parts?

Thanks in advance and thanks to Rob for a great education.

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