"Just before we got together as the group BlackHawk, Henry Gross, myself and Jonathan Edwards, the three of us had a trio called the Vereens. And we were of course named after Ben Vereen the entertainer, dancer, singer... Ben did it all. We sort of fancied our self as entertainers along the same cut of cloth.... Not really. No one can live up to Ben's prowess and professionalism in the entertainment business. At any rate it was a sensational trio vocally. Jonathan Edwards is one of my all time favorite singers. Henry Gross is an incredible singer. I was window dressing. I could sing, I sang the low harmony. Jonathon was the hockey coach and the lead singer. Henry sang the high harmony. It was sensational. And I think you can find a Vereens record on the Internet if people want, I'll give them a web site at one point in the not to distant future. I swear that you that this is not just bull. These records are sensational. It's a 16 song collection, it was 90-91."