Biography
Bruce Ide is manager at J.E.M Orchids in Delray Beach, Florida. He helped set up the AOS OrchidWeb, later moving on to co-host The OrchidReSource
He has been a gardener for more than 40 years and has been growing orchids continuously for more than 20 years. He has a masters degree in horticulture (specializing in orchids) from the University of Hawaii and has grown orchids in a number of areas and in a wide variety of conditions (Hawaii, Georgia, New York, Alabama and now in Florida). He has some experience in growing orchids under artificial lights.
He is a retired Air Force officer with 20 years service. His assignments included northern Maine, Okinawa, Georgia, New York and Alabama. His jobs included; Navigator, instructor navigator, Assistant professor of Aerospace Studies and staff planner. His most previous job was Information Services Manager at the American Orchid Society. His duties included answering orchid related questions (4,500 per year), constructing and maintaining various orchid databases and assisting with the AOS website.
Transcript, Wed, Oct 1, 1997 An Evening with Bruce Ide
Present 21:
orchidnut
Bruceide
Carol Holdren (Boca Raton, FL)
Bruceide
PaphioDePaphio
Bruceide
121133ellen
PaphioDePaphio
marilyninOttawa
Bruceide
Evlyn
Bruceide
arilyninOttawa
Evlyn
Bruceide
marilyninOttawa
Bruceide
marilyninOttawa
121133ellen
bmtorchids (Barbara from California)
JCY8S (John in Arcadia CA)
Evlyn
121133ellen
drroot
Bruceide
drroot
marylois
Bruceide
prankster d (Susan from Oregon)
bmtorchids (Barbara from California)
prankster d (Susan from Oregon)
graphicgreg (photog in WPB)
runnerRick (Rick in Dayton, Ohio (Brrr) Diablo View OS, AOS)
prankster d (Susan from Oregon)
graphicgreg (photog in WPB)
prankster d (Susan from Oregon)
graphicgreg (photog in WPB)
Bruceide
marylois
Bruceide
JCY8S (John in Arcadia CA)
marylois
Bruceide
121133ellen
Bruceide
121133ellen
Bruceide
Evlyn
Bruceide
runnerRick (Rick in Dayton, Ohio (Brrr) Diablo View OS, AOS)
Evlyn
JCY8S (John in Arcadia CA)
runnerRick (Rick in Dayton, Ohio (Brrr) Diablo View OS, AOS)
graphicgreg (photog in WPB)
Bruceide
runnerRick (Rick in Dayton, Ohio (Brrr) Diablo View OS, AOS)
121133ellen
AJHicks (Seedbank Dude, Socorro, NM)
Bruceide
drroot
AJHicks (Seedbank Dude, Socorro, NM)
prankster d (Susan from the Northern edge of the Great Basin)
bmtorchids (Barbara from California)
AJHicks (Seedbank Dude, Socorro, NM)
Bruceide
marylois
AJHicks (Seedbank Dude, Socorro, NM)
Fleur
Bruceide
prankster d (Susan from the Northern edge of the Great Basin)
marylois
Bruceide
Open Chat, 1 Oct 97
ellen
Carol Holdren (Boca Raton, FL)
Richard in West Palm Beach
Carol Holdren (Boca Raton, FL)
Richard in West Palm Beach
Carol Holdren (Boca Raton, FL)
Josh319 (The hosta, pond, and orchid guy!!)
Richard in West Palm Beach
Josh319 (The hosta, pond, and orchid guy!!)
Richard in West Palm Beach
Carol Holdren (Boca Raton, FL)
Richard in West Palm Beach
Carol Holdren (Boca Raton, FL)
Richard in West Palm Beach
Carol Holdren (Boca Raton, FL)
peterlin
sparky-steve (from Boca Raton, Florida.)
AJHicks (Seedbank Dude, Socorro, NM)
peterlin
AJHicks (Seedbank Dude, Socorro, NM)
peterlin
bmtorchids (Barbara from California)
peterlin
marylois
peterlin
marylois
marilyninOttawa
sparky-steve (from Boca Raton, Florida.)
marylois
AJHicks (Seedbank Dude, Socorro, NM)
gaillevy (Boca Raton, FL.)
bmtorchids
marilyninOttawa
Evlyn
marylois
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Ann12
marylois
JCY8S
marilyninOttawa
Bruceide
ChuckMyr
EquitantMan
sibby jean
drroot
PaphioDePaphio
121133ellen
AJHicks
Carol Holdren
prankster d
Fleur
bmtorchids
runnerrick
graphicgreg
Richard in West Palm Beach
harold6820
Carol, I'm here at 9EST. Probably should have made it 8 Eastern, wouldn't keep me up as late! [You were here as early as possible, Bruce -- 8CDT/9EDT...mlg]
Same goes for me, Bruce, but the west coast people wouldn't like it. I saw you out at J.E.M. a few weeks ago but didn't know you were the new manager, congratulations!
Carol, I have been there for about 6 months, but will be leaving shortly to take a position with Palm Beach County.
Bruce: I wrote an Email to JEM last night... asking about the parents of Phrag. Grandiflora... but have not gotten the reply yet.. maybe you can help me...Phrag. Grandiflora is one of the plants listed on J.E.M.'s catalog on the web site.
PaphDePaphio, a check of the RHS CD did not turn up a Phrag. Grandiflora.
I have a Cycnodes Wine Delight from JEM which is the envy of my orchid society.
[Cycd. Wine Delight 'J.E.M.', FCC/AOS...mlg]
ellen: I have seen that plant with an FCC... it was so pretty...
Bruce. Could you tell us something about trends in Catasetum hybridization?
marilyn, that appears to be going in the direction of dark colors along the lines of Wine Delight and another dark cross that is now available. Also crossing with Cycnoches and others to try and increase the flower life, by getting rid of the triggers from the catasetum parents.
When the trigger is released--does the flower die?
marilyn, there are several fairly new species from South America that have recently become available, they are being worked into the breeding also for the features they offer.
Bruce, if one uses the Cycnoches as the seed parent, does this stifle the trigger mechanism even in the first generation?
What features do they offer?
Evlyn, I'm not fully versed on all the new species but I gather they are quite large and are nicely colored. We have just taken several out of compots and are growing them on.
Bruce, what is your opinion of the minimum temperature that Catasetums should be exposed to?
Marilyn, in the nursery they are grown with the cattleyas and exposed to about the same temperatures. I don't think I'd go much below 50F to be safe.
Bruce, I agree with 50F (10C). That seems to be the point at which leaf damage results in those black/brown spots.
Bruce, what can I do to protect my leaves on the Wine Delight and others. They seem to get black spots so easily.
Bruce, I use RO water for misting every day, I think that's where my black spots on my plants leaves came from.
Bruce - what causes male then female flowers to form? Is it the amount of light at a particular time?
I missed any response on the trigger question.
Bruce, how about some info on how to keep them after they bloom.
Hello all. Had to make an effort to get here knowing the speaker had Maine connections. Bruce I assume you were stationed at Loring? Did you have any experience growing in Maine? I am finding that I can grow more types than I thought I would.
drroot, I didn't try growing orchids while I was at Loring, but I would think that you would have a fairly wide selection you can grow, particularly with lights.
Bruce I have been growing for about 3 years now and have had success even with vandas and dendrobiums. I am on the coast near New Brunswick border but have a daughter in school in Limestone.
Bruce, tell us about The Orchid ReSource.
Lois, The Orchid ReSource is the website I am co-running. It was designed for beginners and has culture information, a glossary, a list of all the registered genera (Current to the last issue of Orchids with a list in it). The picture book features pictures of orchid species, with where they are found and culture information.
http://www.botana.com/tors.html The Orchid ReSource.
Bruce, Do you know about Paphinias? Any tips for me? I've got a P. cristata and I don't want to do it harm.
Susan, where did you get your Paphinia?
Barb, I got Paphinia from World of Orchids (Miami). It was one of their August specials!
Susan, Paphinia are low altituide plants hence prefer temps on the warm side, consistent moisture, lower light.
Susan, bet you have the perfect place for those Paphinias, even some snow...
Greg, thanks. I've managed to keep a Stanhope fairly happy. Does a Paphinia want more water? Less light than my Stanhope?
Susan, I would think Stanhopea conditions should be just about right. Have you flowered it yet? If not, you are in for a treat.
Greg, only had it a short time. Can't wait for bloom! Was attracted to Paphinia when I saw the pic in Prigeon's encyclopedia.
What time a year does Paphinia cristata usually make bloom?
Spring, Susan.
Paphinia's are great, large flowers on small plants.
Think I missed the response on the male/female Ctsm flowers?????
Lois, I think I missed the question, sorry.
Bruce, I asked: ...what causes male then female flowers to form? Is it the amount of light at a particular time?
Yes, it was asked - what causes the male or female flowers to appear? Is there any way to treat the plant to predespose it to one kind of flowering or the other? Evlyn - please restate the triggering question - wasn't it a question whether mating with Cyc overcame the trigger effect in progeny????
JCY8S, That's what I had always heard and read, but in the greenhouse we have some plants with male flowers and some with female right next to each other. (Different species, so still maybe light).
Bruce, living in NY makes growing them more difficult because of the heat. What is the minimum required temp?
Ellen, minimum temperatures for which orchids? Some can easily take mid 40's F. Most, I would say, around 50F.
I was talking about temps for Cynodes, Ctsm. and Mormodes.
ellen, minimum temps for that group is about 50F winter nights.
When the trigger is released--does the flower die?
Evlyn, Yes, releasing the trigger shoots out the pollen and the flower fairly quickly fades.
Ellen, if you are referring to the catesetums when you ask if the flower dies, the answer is yes. I have a tenebrossum in bloom right now and it will only last a short time. If it shoots its pollenia, the time will be even shorter.
About how long would the flower stay open it I didn't release the trigger?? I had fun showing it off to non orchid growers last year--bad idea.
Evyln - my flowers vary as to staying power. It depends on your conditions, I think.
Evlyn, mine only lasted about 10 days last year, but that was in the house. This year in the GH, I'm hoping for more, (maybe 14, 18 days)
Evlyn, the idea is to HOLD the Catasetum for the non-orchid grower to smell, then move it just enough so the trigger contacts the unsuspecting nose...the Pinocchio effect!
Evlyn, probably not more than a few days to a week. We had one open at the nursery in a protected location and it was still gone in a week or so.
Evlyn, Bruce is probably more correct. It may have been shorter than 10 days. All that I remember is that it was SHORT, and somewhere in the week or thereabouts timeframe.
Can I get some tips on blooming stanhopeas. Mine grow like crazy in their baskets but no flowers.
Hey, Bruce, there was a question in the OLD about orchids that will take heinous heat and desiccating conditions. Any suggestions?
AJHicks, Maybe the Variegata Oncidiums (not oncidiums any more though) Tolumnia, I think. They like lots of light and need to dry well.
Bruce are those the 'Equitant' Oncidiums? [Yes, aka variegata oncidiums. See Ed Wright's discourse on "equitant" oncidiums...mlg]
We have a fellow just outside of Albuquerque who raises cool-growing odontoglossum-group orchids and miltonias; he has an entire WALL filled with HCC's and AM's, and one FCC to his name (first I've ever seen in a home, I admit). Two greenhouses, both about 1/4 the size of my home (which is tiny enough!). Humidity is fixed with evaporative coolers in the summer.
AJH. Boy, Id like to swap war stories with THAT guy!
AJ, his electric bill must be sky high.
Judging by his house, he can afford it. :-)
I visited a fellow in FT. Worth who had converted a wet bar into a cool room for his orchids, grew wonderful masdevallia, etc., right in his living room.
Bruce - you must have visited Henry (Hank) Horton. Horton's is a first-class cool room all right.
In fact, you might be invited, if you can make the orchid show in November. Heh?
Bruce, have you had any Australian growers ask to sell plants? Did I hear Masdevallias? now you are talking my language.
Fleur, I'm not aware of any Australian growers asking to sell our plants or asking us to sell theirs. We can't grow most masdevallias here, too warm, but I have seen a few that can survive here. Lois, I did, when I gave a presentation out there
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I really need to get along also, It's late here in the east.
Bruce, hope to see you here again!
Thanks for coming by, Bruce!
Thanks for the warm welcome, will be back soon. Sparky-steve, come up Jog road and visit me at JEM orchids. Night all.
Anybody home at OrchidSafari?
Hi Ellen, Carol here checking in.
Hi, Carol, Ellen -- I'm here, too. Carol, what did you think of the Dendrobium I brought Saturday? Steve has posted the first seven of the dens that have flowered at geocities: http://geocities.datacellar.net/RainForest/Vines/5955/Kd1.jpg
You can get all of them by changing the number before the .jpg from 1 through 8a. #5 is the nicest one so far
Hi Richard, I thought it was great! How big can a dendrobium get? How many flowers do you expect it to have when it's full grown?
I expect they will have anywhere from 8-12 flowers on a stem. Each flower will have a 4"+ natural spread on the best of them.
Those giant dens were great in person. I'll dream of two spikes of those on a plant!
What type is that den? It is BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!! Is it a nobile?
That's my cross of Den. King Dragon X Den Queen Dragon -- Now officially named King Dragon's Pride var. Ruby Prince, it's a Phalaenopsis type, but King Dragon is a mutation.
You don't happen to have any keikis, do you? I like #7, too.
They are just beginning to flower -- not big enough to keiki yet. However, I do have about 3,000 plants. I had the cross advertised in Orchids (AOS mag.) for last May or June. The best three are #5, #7 and #8 and #8a. These plants are flowering only 14 months out of flask!
Richard, how many different crosses have you made?
I registered about a dozen crosses back in the 60's and 70's. Now I have a couple of dozen in flasks and as seedlings. This is the latest one to flower -- the others are at least a year or so away from flowering. Tomorrow I am planning to cross #5 with #7 and #8. THAT should result in some spectacular progeny!
Have you always worked with Dendrobiums?
No, I started off with mule-ear Oncidiums and trying to get colors other than brown and yellow. Onc. Mary Saporita (Onc. stramineum X lanceanum) is spectacular -- I wish I could find some somewhere. But the best is Onc. Ruby Rains. (Onc. stramineum X Gene West [I think!])
Thanks Richard, I wondered how you got to those beautiful Dendrobiums!
Hi all
There's the Phal man!!!!
I'm not sure you remember me, Peter, but once when you had Phal. gigantea seedlings, I bought one. Remember sending one to Macallister, Montana? *grins*
But, of course, Aaron. Over the years, I also enjoy reading your humorous replies on the OLD...
What do you mean, humor? I'm drop-dead serious when I tell people that stuff. ;-)
I just receive my plants from my NC shopping trip.. I'm going to have fun potting them up.. I got some phal Mok Chow Yew (gigantea x violacea)..these are huge plants.
Peter, are the flowers huge too?
Barbara - No...not really...but exotic due to gigantea and fragrant due to violacea.. everything were sent bare root so unfortunately I can't take any pictures to share...at least not until these bloom again in a few weeks.
Let's discuss ICS. I've been putting off going back til we know it's working well again...'web tag' ain't my cuppa tea. We first need to get all these new folks registred at ICS before we go over there. I'm really tied up til November 1st...think I'll start telling all to register this month, then post the ICS instructions to our HOW TO JOIN pages and we'll start going back over there for the second half in November - the 15th??? Another reason for delay is I've scheduled speakers and didn't want to get them mixed up on ICS...
Well, I miss ICS..because somehow WBS works well ONLY with Netscape. I really don't like Netscape...IE from Microsoft is much better (GRIN).
How about telling folks to register at ICS in October and going over in November??? Remember, the conservation folks specifically asked for the early hour at WBS on their night. Sometimes a speaker prefers the earlier hour, and we must comply.
I am using Netscape 4.0. How many of you are using Netscape?
I have Netscape 4.03
I'm Netscape 3.x. Won't change til my ISP makes the next version available. They send out the one they are geared for.
Netscape here. Kicks butt.
I'm on Netscape 4.0, I think and haven't had many problems. Today they couldn't find any of the URLs I tried. I was trying to find electronic greeting cards. Couldn't access one site.
Before I go, try out 100,000 free cool graphics
Sounds like things are winding down for the night. I am looking forward to next week's session about reintroduction of orchids.
Night all.
Nite, Evie - me too!
See you fellas next Wed nite - I'm in Corpus Christi this coming Sat nite. Have a good one!
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