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Bob Knight Era Players, Where are they now? By Mike Pegram Special to Indiana's GameEditor's Note: Mike Pegram writes a bi-weekly column about Indiana University basketball recruiting. Additional information can be seen at Peegs' IU Hoop News. Houli Note: The following information was gathered by Indianapolis Star News writer, Mike Pegram. This has been reformatted in spots for display purposes. In no manner am I trying to steal his work, merely trying to further broadcast his message. Please link to Mike Pegram at www.peegs.com for more information regarding Indiana Basketball. I will soon try to find all the ex-assistant coaches now serving as head coaches. INDIANAPOLIS (Feb. 10, 1999) -- Where are they now? Where have they been? Players NBA Players (5): Calbert Cheaney Washington Dean Garrett Minnesota Alan Henderson Atlanta Brian Evans New Jersey Andrae Patterson Minnesota CBA/AIA Players (4):Greg Graham Ft. Wayne Robbie Eggers Athletes in Action Damon Bailey Ft. Wayne Todd Lindeman Connecticut Bailey and Lindeman were recently cut by the NBA clubs; Cleveland and Indiana. Overseas Players (9): Daryl Thomas England Steve Eyl Australia Mike D'Aloiso Italy Todd Jadlow Argentina Mark Robinson England Matt Nover Japan Haris Mujezinovic Italy Charlie Miller Finland Richard Mandeville at last word was expecting to play in Europe.
Coaches NBA Coaches (4): Butch Carter Toronto Head Coach Randy Wittman Cleveland Head Coach (7-99) Jim Thomas Toronto Assistant Mike Woodson Cleveland Assistant (7-99) College Head Coaches (4): Jim Crews Evansville Steve Alford Iowa (4-99) Dan Dakich Bowling Green Cam Cameron Indiana Football College Assistant Coaches (2): Jamal Meeks Bowling Green Patrick Knight Indiana
Other Capacities: CBA League Owner (1): Isaih Thomas Owner of the entire league (8-99) NBA Offices (2): Glen Grunwald VP Basketball Operations, Toronto Raptors Courtney Witte Video Coordinator, Philadelphia 76ers TV Commentators (4): Isiah Thomas NBC Quinn Buckner CBS/ESPN John Laskowski IU Television Network and IU Alumni Association Ted Kitchel IU Television Network and a representative for Foot Joy, Cincinnati
Outside of basketball Practicing Physicians Dr. Frank Wilson Orthopedic Surgeon in northern Indianapolis Dr. Steve Ahlfeld Orthopedic Surgeon, Ahlfeld Sports Medicine Orthopedic Center, Indianapolis Dr. Steve Green Dentist, practicing in Indianapolis Dr. Brian Sloan practices in Indianapolis. Law Degrees Glenn Grunwald, see NBA Toronto Raptors VP Operations above Phil Isenbarger, who is a partner in an Indianapolis law firm Chris Reynolds, who works in the athletic academic office at Western Michigan Jeff Oliphant, is working in Indianapolis Cook Inc., Bloomington medical device manufacturing company (6):John Kamstra, Wayne Radford, Scott Eells, Lyndon Jones, Chuck Franz and Stew Robinson
Other players from the best IU teams 1976 Undefeated Team Bobby Wilkerson now works with Northwest High School in Indianapolis Kent Benson lives in Bloomington and works for Diversified Benefit Services Tom Abernethy, owns The Abernethy Company, Indianapolis, Industrial Real Estate and Property Management. 1981 National Champs Steve Risley, Pfizer Pharmaceuticals, Indianapolis, Sales Rep. Steve Bouchie works in his family's agricultural business in Washington, Indiana. Tony Brown, President, Fuci Metals, one of the largest metals companies in the world. Ray Tolbert Minister Eric Kirchner, CF Freight, Terminal Manager, Cincinnati Landon Turner, Motivational Speaker, Indianapolis. Turner received the 1989 Coors Light US Basketball Writers Association's Most Courageous award after returning to the court with a wheelchair basketball team.
1987 National Champs Todd Meier, Oshkosh, Wisconsin, Management with an outboard motor company Joe Hillman, Indianapolis, Regional Supervisor Magnus Pelkowski lives in Germany Kreigh Smith resides in San Francisco. 1992 and 1993 teams Eric Anderson recently retired from basketball, Indianapolis, Auto Dealership. Pat Graham, Evansville, Marketing, Progressive Health Rehabilitation. Todd Leary, Indianapolis, Commercial Real Estate, Premier Properties. Getting that degree All 76 Bob Knight era players have received their degree except: Daryl Thomas and Kreigh Smith This fact is one of the key selling points for the IU staff when they recruit new players. A complete list of the whereabouts of former players under the Knight era is available at the Peegs.Com and it follows. Houli note: an additional study done in January, 1999 for Basketball America shows that all players recruited by Indiana, for NCAA graduation years 98, 97. 96, and 95 are staying with Indiana and graduating at an 87% rate. Only Stanford (100%) of the currently ranked teams outperforms Indiana in this statistic. Most teams in the study perform below 50%! 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98
Rick Ford B.S. in Physical Education, Master's Rick went into coaching and is a teacher at Cascade High School west of Indianapolis. Joby Wright B.S. in Physical Education, Master's Joby played in the NBA for Seattle and San Diego and the ABA for Memphis and Virginia. He then played in Europe. He returned to IU in 1978 and completed undergraduate requirements. He went on to complete a master's while serving as an assistant coach to Bob Knight for nine years. Joby spent four years as head coach at Wyoming after spending three years as the head coach at Miami (Ohio). He now lives in Laramie, Wyoming.
Steve Downing The Boston Celtics' No. 1 pick in 1973, Steve played for two years including the 1974 NBA championship season. He then returned to work at Indiana University-Purdue University at Indianapolis where he earned his master's in counseling. He joined IU's Department of Intercollegiate Athletics in 1979 and is now an associate athletic director. Jerry Memering B.S. in Business Following graduation, he returned to his hometown of Vincennes, Ind., to head up his business, Memering Construction Co. John Ritter B.S. in Business John worked several years at Eli Lilly before working as a TV color commentator and as an assistant under Bob Weitlich at Ole Miss. He now lives near Indianapolis and sells insurance. Frank Wilson B.A. in Zoology, M.D. It's now Dr. Frank Wilson, orthopedic surgeon, and he specializes in sports related injuries from his north side Indianapolis practice.
Steve Ahlfeld B.A. in Biological Sciences, M.D. An orthopedic surgeon, Steve owns Ahlfeld Sports Medicine Orthopedic Center in Indianapolis. He was chief medical officer for basketball during the 10th Pan American Games in Indianapolis in 1987 Doug Allen B.S. in Business, Master's Doug has been with Yellow Freight since graduation. He now serves as the company's Vice President. Steve Green B.A. in Biological Sciences, D.D.S. Dr. Green is a dentist practicing in Indianapolis. He pinch hits for John Laskowski as basketball color commentator on the IU Television Network. Green played four seasons in the ABA and a year in Italy before going to dental school. John Kamstra B.S. in Accounting, C.P.A. Kamstra works as an accountant with the Cook Group in Bloomington. John Laskowski B.S. in Business Laz played two years with the Chicago Bulls, then spent many years in the business world. Laskowski now works for the IU Alumni Association. He is in his 21st year on the IU Television Network.
Tom Abernethy B.S. in Business Tom played with Los Angeles, Golden State and Indiana before playing in Italy. He owns his own company The Abernethy Company in Indianapolis which deals in industrial real estate, development and property management. He also owns the Indianapolis Basketball Academy, a training facility for the sport. Quinn Buckner B.S. in Administration The Milwaukee Bucks No. 1 selection, Quinn played for 10 years in the NBA with Milwaukee, Boston and Indiana. He is now a network television analyst. He was inducted into the IU Athletic Hall of Fame in 1986. Jim Crews B.S. in Business Jim served eight years as an assistant coach under IU coach Bob Knight. He is in his 14th year as the head coach at Evansville. Scott May B.S. in Education The Chicago Bulls' No. 1 draft pick. Scott played with Chicago, Milwaukee and Detroit before playing several years in Italy. He now lives in Bloomington where he owns his own company, Scott May, Inc. Like teammate Quinn Buckner, he also has been inducted into the IU Athletic Hall of Fame. Don Noort B.S. in Management Don concentrated on his degree his senior year and is now with a paper company in Lexington, Ky. Bob Wilkerson B.S. in Physical Education He was drafted in the first round by Seattle and played with the Sonics, Denver, Chicago and Cleveland during his NBA career. He finished his degree through Indiana at the University of Colorado. He now works for Northwest High School in Indianapolis.
Kent Benson B.S. in Recreation The Milwaukee Bucks took Kent as the No. 1 pick in the 1977 draft. He played for them, Detroit, Utah and Cleveland before playing in Europe. A 1989 IU Athletic Hall of Fame inductee, he now resides in Bloomington where he works with Diversified Benefit Services. Wayne Radford B.S. in Business Wayne played one year for the Indiana Pacers. He now works at the Cook Group in Bloomington. Jim Wisman B.S. in Business Jim spent four years with Cummins Engine Co. in Columbus, Ind. and is now a vice president with Leo Burnett Advertising in Chicago Scott Eells B.S. in Recreation Scott is a part of the Cook Group in Bloomington.
Butch Carter B.S. in Business After serving as the interim head coach of the Toronto Raptors at the end of last season, Butch was named the permanent head coach of the team. He played with Los Angeles, Indiana, New York and Philadelphia during his NBA career. Mike Woodson B.S. in Recreation The New York Knicks' No. 1 pick. Woodson played for the Knicks, New Jersey, Sacramento, the Los Angeles Clippers and Houston during his 13 year career. He is now an assistant coach with the Cleveland Cavaliers.
Glen Grunwald B.S. in Business, J.D. Glen completed his law degree at Northwestern and practiced law for several years with the firm of Winston & Strawn in Chicago. He is now the Vice President of Basketball Operations with the NBA's Toronto Raptors. He has also worked as a legal console for the Denver Nuggets. Phil lsenbarger B.S. in Business, J.D. Phil completed his law degree at the IU School of Law in Indianapolis and is a partner in the Indianapolis firm of Bingham, Summers, Welsh and Spilman. Eric Kirchner B.A. in Journalism Eric has been with CF Freight since graduation. He's now in Cincinnati, Ohio, where he is terminal manager. Steve Risley B.S. in Business Steve is completing his ninth year as a sales representative with Pfizer Pharmaceuticals after serving as a public affairs assistant for Dan Quayle, then a Republican junior senator from Indiana. Ray Tolbert B.S. in Recreation New Jersey's No. 1 draft pick. Played for the Nets, Seattle and Detroit during his NBA career before playing in Italy. He then played one year in the CBA before returning to the NBA with the Lakers and Atlanta. He is now a minister.
Landon Turner B.S. in Physical Education A tragic car accident ended Landon's playing career. He now lives in Indianapolis where he is a motivational speaker. Turner received the 1989 Coors Light U.S Basketball Writers Association's Most Courageous award after returning to the court with a wheelchair basketball team. Class of 1983 Steve Bouchie B.S. in Education Steve is part of his family's agricultural business in Washington, Ind. Tony Brown B.S. in Business Tony lives in Chicago and is president of Fuci Metals, one of the largest international metals companies in the world. He completed his degree work in 1995. Ted Kitchel B.S. in Mgmt. & Admin. After working in insurance in Kokomo and Indianapolis, Ted is now employed as a representative for Foot Joy in Cincinnati. He handles the color play by play for the Indiana men's basketball television broadcasts. Isiah Thomas B.A. in Criminal Justice Isiah played 13 years for the Detroit Pistons and helped lead them to two World Championships. As his professional career permitted, Isiah completed class work for his degree in 1988. After serving as the Vice President for Basketball Operations and part-owner of the NBA's Toronto Raptors he now works for NBC on the network's NBA telecasts. Jim Thomas B.S. in Forensic Studies Jim spent three years with the Indiana Pacers and then played in the CBA. He is now an assistant coach for the NBA's Toronto Raptors. Randy Wittman B.S. in Mgmt. & Admin. Atlanta's No. 1 draft pick, Randy played with the Hawks for five years before finishing his NBA career with Sacramento and Indiana. He is currently the head coach with the Cleveland Cavaliers (7-99).
Cam Cameron B.S. in Mgmt & Admin. Cam is in his second year as head coach of the Indiana Football program. Prior to returning to Bloomington, he was assistant football coach at Michigan and with the Washington Redskins. He has completed his master's in athletic administration. Chuck Franz B.S. in Computer Science Chuck is associated with the Cook Group in Bloomington.
Dan Dakich B.A. Telecommunications After his playing days, Dan spent 11 years as an assistant under Bob Knight. He is in his second year as the head coach at Bowling Green. Uwe Blab B.A. in Computer Science and Mathematics Uwe was drafted by the NBA's Dallas Mavericks and then played for Golden State. He was selected Phi Beta Kappa his senior year. He played for Germany in the 1992 Barcelona Olympics. He now works as a computer consultant in Dallas.
Winston Morgan B.S. in Public Recreation Winston worked for Yellow Freight in Indianapolis before playing with professional basketball teams in Argentina, Sweden and Portugal. He is now a Production Account Executive at GES Exposition Services in Las Vegas, Nevada. Stew Robinson B.S. in General Studies Stew lives in Bloomington, where he is currently employed by Cook, Inc. He completed his degree requirements in December of 1993. Courtney Witte B.S. in Public Affairs Courtney worked for 11 years with the Indiana Pacers as the team's Basketball Video Coordinator and as a regional scout. He now works for the Philadelphia 76ers as a Video Coordinator.
Steve Alford B.S. in Marketing After being taken in the second round of the NBA draft, Steve spent two years with the Dallas Mavericks before playing for Golden State. He is now the head coach at Iowa (4-99). Todd Meier B.S. in Marketing Todd has returned to his home state of Wisconsin. He is in management with an outboard motor company in Oskosh. Daryl Thomas Daryl is playing professional basketball in England where he's been chosen England's Player of the Year. He plans on playing in Europe this year. Daryl does not have his degree yet.
Steve Eyl B.A. in Marketing After working for three years as a sales representative with Baxter International Pharmaceutical and Hospital Supplies, Steve moved to Australia where he is currently working and playing basketball. Dean Garrett Completing Degree Requirements He was drafted in the second round by Phoenix. Dean played in Europe for nine years before returning to the United States two years ago and joining the Minnesota Timberwolves. Before the 1997-98 season began he signed a five year deal with the Denver Nuggets of the NBA with whom he played last year. Keith Smart B.S. General Studies Keith was drafted by the Golden State Warriors in the second round of the NBA draft. He played professionally in the NBA, CBA and overseas. He is in his second season as the head coach of the Ft. Wayne Fury of the CBA.
Mike D'Aloisio B.A. in Arts and Sciences. He now lives and plays in Italy. Joe Hillman B.S. in Business Joe earned his degree in finance and real estate before playing basketball in Australia. He is now a regional supervisor in Indianapolis. Todd Jadlow B.S. in Public Affairs After receiving his degree in management, Todd played in Europe. He now plays in Argentina. Magnus Pelkowski B.S. in Business, B.A. in Arts and Sciences Magnus earned a business degree in finance and a liberal arts degree in Germanic studies with a minor in studio art. He now lives in Germany Brian Sloan B.A. in Arts and Sciences Brian completed medical school and is now a doctor living in Indianapolis. Kreigh Smith Kreigh is living in San Francisco where he is in business. Kreigh is not yet degreed.
Jeff Oliphant B.A. in Arts and Sciences With a double major in telecommunications and psychology, Jeff completed law school and is working in Indianapolis. Mark Robinson B.G.S. in Continuing Studies. After completing his degree in general studies, Mark worked as a counselor in a Houston drug rehabilitation center and is now living and playing in Manchester, England.
Lyndon Jones B.G.S. in General Studies Lyndon's employed by Cook, Inc. in Detroit.
Eric Anderson B.S. in Sociology Eric played for two seasons with the New York Knicks. He has also played in Europe. He now works for an auto dealership in Indianapolis. Jamal Meeks B.S. in Criminal Justice Jamal is an assistant basketball coach at Bowling Green.
Calbert Cheaney B.A. in Arts and Sciences After earning a degree in criminal justice, Calbert was selected with the sixth pick of the first round of the NBA Draft by the Washington Wizards. Calbert has been a regular member of the team's rotation for the past five seasons. Greg Graham B.A. in Health, Physical Education and Recreation. He earned his degree in sports management. Greg was selected with the 17th pick of the first round by the Charlotte Hornets. His rights were traded to the Philadelphia 76ers. He has also played with New Jersey and Seattle before finishing last season in the CBA. Matt Nover B.A. in Business After playing a major role in the movie "Blue Chips", Matt has played in Japan, Switzerland, Portugal and Australia. He plans on playing in Japan again this year. Chris Reynolds B.A. in Arts and Sciences After earning a degree in criminal justice and Afro-American studies, Chris earned a law degree from IU. He has worked in the compliance office at Michigan State and is now in the athletic academic office at Western Michigan.
Damon Bailey B.A. in Education Bailey was a second round draft pick of the Indiana Pacers. He plays with Ft. Wayne in the CBA. Pat Graham B.A. in Criminal Justice Pat works for ProgressiveHealth Rehabilitation in marketing/sales in Evansville, Ind. Todd Leary B.A. in Sports Management After earning his degree in sports management, he played in Europe but now lives in Indianapolis where he is in commercial real estate with Premier Properties.
Alan Henderson B.A. in Biology Alan was picked in the first round by the Atlanta Hawks and is now in his fourth year with team. Pat Knight B.A. in Health, Physical Education and Recreation Pat worked with the NBA's Phoenix Suns and was an assistant coach with the CBA's Connecticut Pride. Last year he was the head coach of the IBA's Wisconsin Blast. This is his first season as an assistant coach at IU.
Brian Evans B.A. in Sports Management Brian was the 27th selection in the NBA Draft by the Orlando Magic and spent one and a half seasons with them before being traded to New Jersey in the middle of last season. Todd Lindeman B.A. in Resource Management Todd played in the CBA last season and plans on playing with that league or the NBA this year. Kevin Lemme B.S. in Education After playing his senior year as a walk on, Kevin is a high school teacher and coach. Class of 1997 Haris Mujezinovic B.A. in General Studies Haris played for his native country in the European Championships during the summer of 1997 and played in Croatia last year. This season, he is playing in Italy.
Robbie Eggers B.A. in Sports Management. Robbie plans on playing in Europe or with Athletes in Action this season. Richard Mandeville B.A. in Sports Management. Richard plans on playing in Europe. Charlie Miller B.A. in Criminal Justice Charlie was selected in the USBL draft over the summer but remained in school to complete his degree requirements. After graduating this past summer, he now is playing in Finland. Andrae Patterson B.A. in Criminal Justice Andrae was the 46th pick in the NBA Draft by the Minnesota Timberwolves.
Transfers and Departures
Players that enrolled, then left Indiana prior to completing their eligibility during Knight's tenure.
1999: Luke Recker
(Arizona)
-All players leaving for the NBA have subsequently graduated.
Comparing Knight's Indiana departure rate and graduation rate with other programs will show favorable results. Coach Knight states while addressing the student body 9-99, "We've given 117 scholarships since I've been at Indiana for 28 years, and of that 117, 37 kids for one reason or another have left. Eighty have stayed and played all four years. That's about 30 percent that we've lost.
"The national average is about 38 percent. That is never mentioned when somebody talks about a kid leaving Indiana. Not only are we not near the bottom, we are well into the upper half of schools relative to retaining scholarship players."
Finally, my effort is to provide an objective, fact filled analysis. In review of the 1999 departures and transfers, schools like Kentucky, Duke and Ohio State are each losing multiple underclassmen. Coaches continually tend to offers from other schools at the major college level, often departing for a better pesonal circumstance, leaving the kids they recruited with empty promises.
At Indiana under Knight, the promise and commitment made, is the promise and commitment kept. This promise is to the player, his parent(s), the falculty, the administration, and the fan. The promise is not in agreement with all the media (as the promise is not to the media), thus the slanted and opiniated stone throwing at the Indiana program by some members of the media. Lay all the facts on the table, and let the fans decide for themselves. And to think that the stones are often being thrown by supposed devote Christians? -- Houli
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