Babble v1 197

babble-digest Thursday, February 12 1998 Volume 01 : Number 197

In this issue:
stinking towel heads
Here's a question.
QUASI-ADMIN: End of thread (was RE: stinking towel heads)
Re: Site critique

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 16:24:13 +1000
From: Caleb Fuller <email@calebfuller.com>
Subject: stinking towel heads

John Shelley made many 'sage' comments, among them:

>>Please use your creativity for something else, not for killing people.

>like what? get over it, hanan

along with references to stinking towel headed Arabs and insults at
pacifism...I normally don't respond to this sort of drivel, but John's comment
left me feeling rather sick in the stomach. The racist references and insults
throughout the body of the message were laughable enough to ignore, but in the
final plea to use your creativity for something worthwhile, he responds with
the pseudo-posturing ignorance of 'like what...get over it'...

JOHN SHELLEY, IF YOU CANNOT THINK OF ANYTHING BETTER TO USE YOUR MIND FOR THAN
KILLING AND DESTRUCTION, AND MOCKING THOSE WHO THINK OF HIGHER AND MORE HUMAN
IDEALS, GET THE HELL OFF THIS LIST AND STOP PRETENDING TO BE ANY SORT OF
DESIGNER. I AM SURE THAT I SPEAK FOR EVERYONE HERE WHEN I SAY THAT YOU AND
YOUR THOUGHTS ARE NOT WANTED!

Thank you, and apologies to other list member for needing to raise my voice.
Caleb Fuller
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 15:53:13 +1000
From: Antony Richards <antony@mcmann-tate.com.au>
Subject: Here's a question.

Why is it that 95% of online web portfolios I see aren't linked to the
actual sites? It's baffling to me as it seems to bypass a major function of
this medium. I want to check out the work people are promoting, but alot of
the time I can't even see what the URL is from the screen capture. Is there
something I'm missing?

Antony.

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 02:04:27 -0800
From: Christopher <chris@christopher.org>
Subject: QUASI-ADMIN: End of thread (was RE: stinking towel heads)

This thread stops here.

Reminder: this community is centered around advanced (knock on wood) web design.

Christopher Schmitt
new media designer
http://www.christopher.org/
Flash2 Animation FAQ Site
http://www.flashfaq.com/ - Coming Soon!

PS Where is the current list moderator anyway?

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:13:51 +0200
From: Hanan Cohen <hananc@bashan.co.il>
Subject: Re: Site critique

Jorge Hurtado wrote:
> here's the site that Ii worked on:
> http://exo.com/~hurtado/1.html
> Just wondering if I could get some advice form the best...
> just an overall critique..

I will try to be kind ...
The background of the main window is an "attribute" to HighFive.
(and then in the Drawings section you write :All images in this page are
private property.
Please do not use the images for any comercial purpose.)

I am not clear on why the scroll bar of the main window should be inside
the frameset and not the the edge.

Text on the balck background should be more visible.

I don't understand the numbers at the top frame.

I don't understand the drawing at the left frame and it's purpose.

Good luck in you designs.

- --
Hanan Cohen
Bashan systems - Jerusalem

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