Saturday January 30th 99 : "THE INTERZONE COFFEE HOUSE"
(it starts here : see for the next mails below)
Hi Zoners,
1. You are invited by Grovetta : Grape2061
February 1st 99 : Koulin's new address
salut,
juste pour dire que j'ai une nouvelle adresse e-mail mahkoulin@francemel.com vous pouvez me joindre a cette adresse sans probleme.
amities.
koulin.
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February 2nd 99 : Printing and house
Hi Zoners,
Two subjects which require your attention and
advises :
1. Printing
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I have been writing to a list of printers for the book, and asked them about a price for our anthology, with a short description of the diffferent tomes.I'm beguinning to receive answers, some are interested and are gonna call me about it. But I cannot deal with them alone, an am requiring your assistance in this.
As I'm getting several anwsers, we shall have to compair prices, see if it's worth it, and also how many to have printed,
according to the numbers of Zoners wanting to get involved in it.
The aim of having the book printed is to sell it in the frame of the Zone, what we can do without any commercial society nor putting anything official.
We have to see then about the formula to adopt : 1. if it's worth it, let's say if we can have books of 100 pages for
about 1 $ each, then we can buy ten and sell them 10 $, which is a reasonnable price. this leads then to personnal
benefit for the individuals who make it. then the benefit would be: 10 $ X 10 = 100 $ -
As we got 7 tomes already of 100 pages each , this makes 7 dollars for a whole book, which we can sell then 70 $.
If we do this with 10 books, we get then 700 $. less the price we invested (70 $) and the fees of the mail to get the books.
This is just an example for the moment, we have then to confront it with the real prices of the printers, but this is
just to give you an idea of the way I see it.
2. We can also use it as an opportunity to constitute a capital : on the money we earn with it, we give 1 /10 to Interzone :
if 100 zoners do this and, from the money they earn, give 50 $ to the Zone, then we got 5 000 $ we can put in a bigger project.
Some of you might have other ideas, this is only one but there must have other possibilities.
If you are aware of printing , publishing, etc, and can help me here, thanks for letting me know in the following days.
If you want to be part of this and have the book printed for you, let me know as well, with the numbers of copies you would like.
I'm gonna see the first prices the printers offer, and will let you know the result. Then we shall have a more solid base to evaluate what is worth here, and if we decide to have it printed, which printer to choose.
2. House project :
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After a visit to Poitiers yesterday, it comes out houses with more than 4 rooms are not easy to find, and rarely less than 5000 fr (1000 $ ) and people rather sell them than rent them.
I'm gonna put an advert on the web of the region to ask for such a place : we might find something this way, allowing to put up what we planned for the hotel, but out of the commercial circuit.
I'd go to work there, Poitiers is just half an hour drive, and would officially open it as a psychotherapist, which would allow then the other activities in a place of conviviality, a "lieu de vie" openned to the population, through an association.
I'd rent the place with other people here : artists wanting to share a space with others, or students to rent the rooms, or Zoners wanting to have a place to come here, etc.
This would also be a good formula for the apomorphine cures in future if they reveal themselves possible with doctors in Poitiers, specially in the frame of non-profit and non-governmental doctors associations (the "French doctors", who now work here as well and give free cares in the frame of home-hopitalisation as well).
I'm waiting for complementary information on the cure itself which I'll forward to you.
This sounds the easiest and best formula, as it keeps us out of the business and immigration problems we had with the hotel, and allows a completely free frame : we shall be in our place, a private one, and free to make all the activities we want.
The aim is to put up with the people relations which are similar to the structure of human organism (see Korzybski's general semantics and Henri Laborit's books , the French biologist, about this) , and offering them things which answer their needs, which the world we live in does not provide.
Substitute relations based upon money by relations based upon the needs and structure of human organism, which
are a priori fittable to any human organism :) For experimenting it previously and in the frame of the Zone
as well, I can say it works far beyond my expectations. :)))))))))
So the money we need to start is limited to the minimum : share the rent of the place and charges, and the money we earn is in the frame of an association. This money will have 2 sources :
a) artistic activities : every artist gets the money he earns from his gigs, lectures, Burroughs' museum, etc...
b) the place of conviviality with lectures, groups, etc..., talks, etc..., which won't have fixed prices but will work on donations, exchanges, etc..., so can be accessible to anybody.
Let me know what you think about this home project. In case you like it and want to rent the place as well,
let me know .
In case it would be a flop after 3 months, I'd stop then, but I do not start with this expectation, as I have done such a work before and got enough documentation and work done to start right now.
After the association is created and the job started, we can then get support from culture and health , but we shall ask
for it when they can state the results.
We can exchange directly about all these subjects in the Interzone Coffee House Grovetta openned this week-end :
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Mail to Interzone Coffee House
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Death Dwarf, Nova Mob, Smash the Control Bagel |
elGORGO |
Feb 3 1999 |
hola folks... i was on my way to create a WSB club, when to my surprise i saw there was one! great!
i may still use the nova mob for something though, perhaps research discussion or essay posting. in any case, it's a companion piece to my site...
the site is called Death Dwarf. right now, it's only a collection of detailed links to all of our WSB sites and their contents. it's meant to aid people researching WSB, or to help any new to WSB find the answers to specific questions located in all of the resources online.
i tried to add this to my member comments, but at the time yahoo! clubs were acting up (they do this QUITE A LOT *g*)... so here's the URL
nova mob club: [use undetermined as of yet]
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De : Joshua Berlow <
cordwainer@yahoo.com>Date : vendredi 5 février 1999 05:09
Objet : Casa Blanca Carne Seca Beef Jerky Web Page Up
The Casa Blanca Carne Seca Beef Jerky Web Page is at:
De :
Grape2061@yahoo.com <Grape2061@yahoo.com>Hello Everyone,
Because of all of the members we have gotten in this club, Yahoo! has made William S. Burroughs a CATEGORY. Before THE INTERZONE COFFEE HOUSE, he was just listed as someone in the Author section. Aren't you all proud of yourselves? Just look at the top left hand side of the screen....it used to be: Category: Author. Now it is: Category: William S. Burroughs. :)
Love,
Grovetta
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Protocole of cure and post-cure : February 21th
Here is a mail I sento to the soros Institute some days ago :
Hi,
This mail about a protocole of cure and post-cure of desintoxication on which I am working at presently in the frame of Interzone, a group of Burroughsian readers, which I coordinate, in collaboration with our doc, Jim, who put up a service of free-councelling for the Zoners who were asking for assistance.
This protocole is based upon the research we have been making on desintoxication. It's aim is to provide a place where addicts from the group can come and first physicly kick as quickly and comfortably and as possible, (from heroin, alcohol , psychotrop and substitutes as methadone) and then in a second time, help them to restructurate psychicly while earning their life in the frame of a physical academy.
The cure would consist in the protocole of the apomorphine cure William Burroughs got from Dr Dent in London .
We have gathered infos on this cure and are waiting for more , but the results coming from Denmark and Sweden where this cure is still applied have been positive until now and confirm Burroughs' assertions about it. see http://geocities.datacellar.net/Athens/Crete/9445/apo.html and following pages.
Physical cares can be added to bring a maximum of comfort during the cure : massages, accupunture, etc..., according to the patient's choice.
The cares would be given in the frame of home hospitalisation, prescripted by a doc from the city, with the help of
a liberal nurse and the other residents of the place. So they would be taken in charge by social security, while
being much less expensive than a cure in a hospital .
Once the cure is finished , then people can join the academy for the time they want to, so they are not confronted to loneliness, nor to problems of money, work, nor of promiscuity with the dope surrounding.
Now the academies would not be centres of care for addicts : just places where Zoners can meet, work together, make researches, etc. , and find a shelter when they need it. Some have problems for kicking and ask for advises and help, so they could come for this, and be with other people who are not into dope and work with them on other subjects of
interest. So this it would be a transitory activity, not a permanent one, in function of the request of the people,
and the academy could welcome as well people needing other cares taken in charge in home hospitalisation
(depressions, AIDS, cancer, etc.)
The post-cure would consist in being part of the activities of the academy, of different kinds :
- trainings and courses on domains allowing to restructurate personnality,
- artistic activities of the Zone openned to the public : expos, concerts, lectures, selling musical and litterary productions,
etc., see : http://www.interpc.fr/mapage/westernlands/Interzone-links.html
- homework for the commune : prepair food, cleaning, etc...
- a place of conviviality openned to the public , like a bar, but without alcohol nor any fixed price, where people can come and have a chat and a drink, feel at home, and give what they want to when they leave.
If they got no money, they can provide a service.
The aim is to quit relationships based upon money, to restaure relationships based upon human needs, and a the aim of the academy is to offer a place answering the needs of human organism. I am a psychiatric nurse, 15 years experience in hospital in France, and have already put up a similar group in the past , applying the biologist Henri Laborit's data on
the structure of living organisms, with great results on the therapeutic level, so this is not only a theorical assertion.
We would make it through an association, which is easy to put up without much money.
I thought you might be interested in such a project as a
possible perspective.
Best
Isabelle Baudron
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