Organisation for the sites :
November 14th 98 : Some forums have been created on different subjects we are muling about at the moment , so you can insert your mails directly in them : see the page :
http://geocities.datacellar.net/Athens/Crete/9445/forums.html
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De : chiki <
Bye now, chiki (from japan)
Raw Information network URL:
http://www.abstractmt.com/raw-info/rawinfo.html
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À : Grugier Maxence <mxzone@yahoo.com>
Date : samedi 29 août 1998 08:29
Objet : Re: Sexy pages
>Il faudrait contacter le site de David Bowie, il propose des
>abonnements en communications locales pour 6$ et un abonement (frais
>de dossier etc...) pour 20$.
>Il heberge aussi !!! Bowie provider, on aura tout vu !
>C'est à http://www.davidbowie.com/, vu son adoration pour Burroughs ce
>serait marrant de le mettre dans le coup !
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bowie is cool
i was a big fan of Ziggy
let us try to contact him
i finally got to his site
impressive art work
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Hi David and all,
About one year ago Bill Burroughs passed and then Malcolm Humes
made a Memorial in his site "The Wil;liam Burroughs' Files" you sent a mail to.On August the 10th I began to send mails to
people who wrote in this Memorial to propose them plans of the dreamachine I had made , for free : see http://www.interpc.fr/mapage/westernlands/Dreamachine.htmlA part of them replied and sent their own productions in
return. We decided to gather and made Interzone, which now has about 380 members.You can see our sites at :
http://www.interpc.fr/mapage/westernlands/Interzone-links.html in The Western Lands:You will find a summing up of our present activities in the latest report :
http://www.interpc.fr/mapage/westernlands/report-august-98.html and http://www.interpc.fr/mapage/westernlands/Academy.htmlA friend just sent your URL address
http://www.davidbowie.com/ which I added in the Links page : http://www.interpc.fr/mapage/westernlands/Links.htmlWe are looking for some web space for a common site for the Zone
and an open-minded provider (one of us, Foe, just got fired from Xoom for a pic judged as "offensive" http://www.interpc.fr/mapage/westernlands/foe.html )Knowing your interest for Burroughs, we thought you might
provide us one. As far as we are concerned, we would be delighted to be hosted by you. :)I am planing to add more pages of Victor Bockris
writings and got a document on you and Burroughs from his book "With William Burroughs" which I translated in French then. Would you allow me to put it in a web page in the site with other texts by him ?
I see in your site that you are a publisher as well :
we have been gathering writings since one year, in a book of several tomes called "le Temps des Naguals", which contains writings by and on Burroughs and Gysin, or on themes which are related to them. We are looking for a publisher for this book, as well as for our personal witings, and the whole lot is now thick enough to start a collection.You can consult a part of them in the menu "Le Temps des Naguals"
http://www.interpc.fr/mapage/westernlands/menu.html and the page Work : http://www.interpc.fr/mapage/westernlands/Work.htmlWe also got a department of Alfred Korzybski's general semantics,
a logic of thinking based upon quantic physics and Einstein's theory of relativity : http://www.interpc.fr/mapage/westernlands/GS.html http://www.interpc.fr/mapage/westernlands/s&s6.html , http://www.interpc.fr/mapage/westernlands/ADK.html , http://www.interpc.fr/mapage/westernlands/intro-sg.html http://www.interpc.fr/mapage/westernlands/intro-sg2.htmlDue to the quantity of the writings to publish, printing them on hard copy for a formal publisher in
France or US becomes a huge enterprise !!! So you might have a look on what's on the net, which will give you an idea of the content.We are also prepairing a CD gathering the translation of
"The Last Words of Hassan Sabbah" in several languages, mixed with our musics : http://campus.ensba.fr/belouin/lastwor/last.html and http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/foe4foe/In case you would be interested in any of the directions we are into at the
moment , ,just let us know. For sending a mail to Burroughs' Memorial, you are a legitimate member of the Zone.All the best.
Izzy
The Western Lands
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An art that bites and more stuff :
De :
MrVaranasi@aol.com <MrVaranasi@aol.com>In a message dated 98-07-23 02:30:43 EDT, you write:
<< Your page is on the net...Hope you like it >>
Dear Iz:
i love it!
i would be interested in how the collages are received, especially the one for "Another january". on that one i was influenced by a comment from the "guerilla grrls"-i.e. that there is more frontal nudes of women in 'art' than
of men, as well as the whole Viagra rage across America.
I was thinking this morning of a comment made in the July 98 report about creating an "art that bites". In a media saturated world, it's tough to create something that would grab the participant/viewer. Even Burrough's idea of literally an explosive painting (from an essay in The Adding Machine) is one that would not be so unique. I remember an article in Art News where a Japanese artist sculpted a real size automobile out of razor sharp bamboo.
From what I've seen in the media, the most controversial might be the least dangerous. I don't know how much coverage it received in France, but in the states, the "Joe Camel" phenomenon was one that inspired a sense of moral outrage where one, really, should not exist. Here is a cartoonish camel (with quite a wardrobe) smoking a cigarette, doing the most routine things (playing pool, riding a motorcycle, etc). And the public denouncement drove this ad campaign off the market, with the use of cartoons more or less banned from advertising cigarettes. It was said the sole reason for this "Joe Camel" was to entice children to smoke cigarettes.
Personally, I don't think the Camel cigarette people are that smart. As you are aware, in other parts of the world (especially in Japan) , cartoons are used for advertising-it's part and parcel of the culture.
Am I saying that "we" should be international ad men? No, but the reaction to it has to be perceived as a potential "art that bites". Consider a media event consisting of a cartoon character who is adult in behavior selling a non-commercial message (political, literary, etc.). Granted, the "alternative comics" industry has been doing this for decades now, but as they are limited in public exposure, they are "safe".
Just a thought.
Thanks for reading my rant. And thank you again for the page.
Warm regards,
garrison
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De : MrVaranasi@aol.com <MrVaranasi@aol.com>
À : baudron@interpc.fr <baudron@interpc.fr>
Date : jeudi 23 juillet 1998 18:40
Objet : More thoughts/July98 report
Dear Iz:
More thoughts on "art that bites".
Another avenue of thought re "Art that bites" could be found with Survival Research Laboratories in San Francisco, California. They take suplus "junk" and create dynamic metaphors (e.g. A jet fighter's engine becomes the world's
loudest tin whistle or giant robots who battle it out-"good vs evil")
An "art bite" can be sensual as well as confrontational. Art can be made with a scalpel as well as a brush. I predict that in the field of figurative art, within the next few years the two will merge as the pre-surgical transsexual (male to female in particular) will become the primary 21ts century visual metaphor of self-perception.
Art that extolls violence should be left buried with the other 20th century dreck ( as in the return of academic (representational) art).
Just some personal opinions on a cloudy Thursday morning.
Thanks again, and as always, with warmest regards,
garrison
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De : FRANK BLANK <
DEADJOE@webtv.net>wrote this little ditty to the local paper. thought you folks might
enjoy it. i'm close to possitive the the chickie doodles down there will
not print it, even though they should.
i've been biting my tongue until it is little more than a bloody stump. alas, i must speak and get if out. a few months back i read an article about Kenny Wayne Brobst's (nee Sheephead, sorry that's sheperd) new ad for some kind of pants. i saw the ad and puked immediately. the little heshe played a totaly derivative and ripped off blues lick and said now
that's original. puuuulease. and as if that weren't bad enough. Tuesday the sixteenth you ran a multi column story on another white wannabe who is riding all the way to the bank on the tails of old bluesmen. it is a time honored and disgusting tradition for white people to use the old masters to further their own derivitave ideas. if you but check out yr
history you will find that many of the greatest bluesmen (and women) died penniless and alone. i recognize the contribution these fine folks made to our musical heritage. but it makes more sense to re release the originals than to have copy artists feed updated versions to us. jimi, jesse and leadbelly were here but they disappeared and neither Kenny Wayne nor any other can replace him. sorry to take up your sweet time with a letter you probably won't print any way.
yrs for truth, justice and life
dead joe