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emily2
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes....why are we wating, why are we wating...... (humms to herself) icon_biggrin.gif
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Thank you for all your enquiries and questions. I don’t know where to begin. When I left off I was going to tell you all about Jack’s experience and his witness account of my death. I will still do this of course but first I will attempt to answer your questions.

Guest – I do have that term. You should not sit here most of the day waiting for a reply. I am seldom able to reply in the daytime and in any event this is such a waste of your time.

Wattie – Purgatory? You have an interest in the supernatural. Why should we not have an interest in the living? In your modern world you should be more aware of equal opportunities.

Thank you Anna and Emma. Jack does have some unresolved issues as indeed most of us in the spirit world do. A human trait carried forward into the afterlife maybe? Everyone talks about moving on but moving on to where?
Whilst your fear of the unknown and what happens after your death may be something that you think about, the same logic applies to each and every presence in the after life. At least the contacts that I have made. I have no way of communicating with heaven or hell if indeed it exists.

Emma – You are correct in your assumption that I will not answer your question. I fear things are getting a little too close for comfort already. To our Guest and Steve I maintain my silence on my location.

I do not know about E.V.P but I have an interesting account to share with you about using voice. More on this follows but as far as we have been able to establish it is not possible to record our voices. We have no voice to record. Converting text into a voice program is possible though as you will see by the example provided . You asked if I was at work. The answer is well, sort of. If you read my previous posts you will see why I tend not to respond during the day.

Pat is female and this is very easy to find out without asking any questions. The answer is hidden in these very same forums. And to Smeg, if I knew everything would I even be here? If you seek proof would it convince you if I phoned all of you at exactly 8pm tonight and gave you a ghostly wailing sound as proof of my existence? I am sure it would. However, I am incapable of such feats. If I knew everything I would be a God. A God I am not. You may have been watching too many movies.

There is much talk of moving on. Perhaps this is a human urge or an attempt to find security or a reason for everything that happens. Look how my existence has changed. I might actually have more chance of coming into contact with deceased loved ones by trying to find them online. Has anyone considered this. Jack spends much of his time searching. He may end up finding what he is looking for without moving on anywhere. Like me, he has no sense of urgency or ambition to move on. Why should we move on.

Emily – Your brain is most definitely working overtime. I have read some of Pat’s postings. I have read all the postings on this message board. It clearly shows that she is female. The only other explanation would be that Pat is male and gay. I am positive that she does not fall under this category.

Badger – Thank you for your reply. The hard evidence does lie under rather a large amount of concrete. I have no wish to provide any hard evidence. Not until the final chapter of my investigations and provision of proof of my murder is complete at least. Even then, this will be handed over to the relevant authorities to carry out the necessary actions. Why would I wish to provide proof to everyone? It would be easy to give you Janet’s name, her address and telephone number or her email, but she does not wish this. How would you like it? She could get callers and investigators and people accusing her of fabricating a story. She might even lose her job. She could of course request that I type a message while a hoard of onlookers stare in amazement at the computer screen. She could end up becoming the next Uri Geller of computers and obtain instant fame. It is not in her nature. She does not wish this. What of me. People arriving with sophisticated electrical devices and ghost watchers disturbing my existence. I would feel like a monkey in a cage.
I am not an exhibit at a zoo.

Guest – You have raised a very important issue. This could indeed be a way of marketing a new product. Perhaps it is. But it is free. It costs you nothing and I have nothing to gain. This could of course all be just a story. It might already exist on the internet and I could be just cutting and pasting the details from an existing book. However, if the TV or newspapers get hold of this then I can confirm that my writings will cease on this message board and I will devote my attentions to more important matters than the provision of your entertainment, if that is what this means to you.

Perhaps I am not Michael Pennington. Perhaps there is no Michael Pennington, a spirit from Oldbury. I could have taken any name. I could be Thomas Smith from Dudley. Perhaps this is a prank. I worry that some of you are a little concerned about this. To devote such time to discovering my whereabouts and the tracking down of information and records is not the purpose for which my memoirs are written. This is folly. It is irrelevant. It is certainly of no consequence to me and is not in my best interests for you to do so. I have no wish for you to do this or to cause any disruption in our current environment.

Please do not be concerned. There are many good writings that fall under fiction and non fiction that make use of the dead. There are many stories that are concerned with ghosts and spirits and that name them with dates, buildings and information that perhaps should not be revealed. How would the dead react to this if they were alive and could speak for themselves.

If it suits you, treat this as just a story. Put your mind at rest and read it for personal enjoyment or as a means by which to explore more constructive investigation of the supernatural. As I mentioned at the start, I have nothing to gain and nothing to lose by writing this. I do this out of the goodness of my spirit and with all goodwill and the best of intentions. If it excites your mind, questions your theories, encourages you to search and enquire, and most of all, if it pleases you, I will continue. Only on that basis will I devote my efforts to your enquiring minds. If any of you are feeling frightened or intimidated by my writings I should stop. I have no wish to cause harm.

I fully understand the scepticism with regard to my predicament. Let me first dispel a few myths. A spirit or ghost is not faultless in any accounting or recording of events or documentation although it is very unlikely that you will find any discrepancies in my records as my memory is excellent. I do not have to clutter my thoughts with worrying about a career, family or the payment of bills and such like. Therefore it is much easier for me to concentrate on issues that are of relevant to my existence.

I can make spelling mistakes and sometimes, though rarely, mix up dates. After all, I think in the same way that you think. I have no idea how I think. I have yet to find anyone, living or dead, who can explain how or why we are even able to function. A spirit can be misguided as in the case of poltergeists. You need to be aware that the supernatural has its limitations too.

Before I continue with Jack’s account, I feel I should point out that whilst I find your questions interesting and admire your tenacity in trying to establish the facts, I am somewhat puzzled as to why no one has brought up the issue of GCHQ and MI5. I made reference to this earlier. How would a mere spirit know of such things. What I am about to reveal has far wider implications and more things for you to consider than my own situation which is significant in comparison. It may surprise you to learn that spirits have a much wider access to information that is available to most humans.

Consider how I have found this method of communication. Now think about the number of companies and government departments that have access to much more powerful technology. Of the many people that I am in contact with, perhaps two of the most interesting are spiritual inhabitants of the enormous and sprawling government organisation called GCHQ, based in Cheltenham. Another contact is in the building at MI5 in London. People die in these buildings too you know. A heart attack at work, a construction worker from an existing or previous building on the same site. It happens.

Many of you will find this very far fetched indeed but it is really no different to my own situation. These spirits however have access to some really useful information that we are able to utilise and pass around to others in our community. It is useful when we need to find out about a particular paranormal case or in tracing someone or understanding what the government view is on our strange form of existence.

I am no longer providing real names of my contacts as I fear that this is a breach of confidence and as mentioned earlier, it is up to each individual spirit to decide on what level of publicity they accept. After all, they are perfectly capable of making themselves known to selected persons or human contacts of their own, and indeed do so. Janet is not alone in this respect.

Let us look at a little of what is known about GCHQ. If I breach National Security here, and I have no wish to do so, then I apologise, although I hardly think that the information I am providing is a national threat. In any event, sue me. That would be interesting.

In the archives of GCHQ and many other secretive government organisations and the military, there are countless files and dossiers on the paranormal. Many of these relate to UFO sightings but there are also many unexplained, and what you would term, ghostly happenings. If several people were to sight a ghost, or over a period of time a number of people reported seeing the same ghostly phenomena, then it attracts the attention of the authorities. A police officer or member of the armed forces might be asked to log an account and keep quiet about revealing any information to members of the general public. The government will tell you that this is to avoid spreading panic among the population. The truth of the matter is, that all this information is collated and stored. Much of the information sent in from around the country is easily explained. Sightings of UFO and strange noises and transmissions are often near military establishments that are testing new technologies. Often at night. Unsuspecting members of the general public are regularly convinced that they have seen a UFO, an alien, or a ghost. This we must accept.

Once this information reaches GCHQ it is categorised and labelled according to its importance. My friendly spirit at GCHQ communicates via the organisations main frame computer. This is how we communicate. He was a Professor and worked there a number of years before his untimely death. He sees everything. He has access to everything. There are no secrets for him. He has to wait until a human reads or writes a report but by looking over someone’s shoulder all the time he has no problem in gleaning the information. Government’s would be paranoid about this if they took it seriously. Be thankful that spirits have no concerns with money or personal gain or the results could have far wider implications for national security.

The only time I would ever be concerned for the human race being in danger from the supernatural, would be in the event that an evil spirit is present at a nuclear establishment, and finds a way of setting off the countries nuclear devices. After all, he would have access to everything. To put your minds at rest, this is very unlikely to happen due to the fact that without computers and humans there would be no communication between our kind. Not even an evil spirit would wish to terminate their only means of communication and wander around in a wasteland for eternity. There is also doubt as to whether a spirit could actually instigate the arming, the codes, and the physical side of starting a nuclear strike.

There is an outstanding amount of information available that can be accessed. It is in most government’s interest to keep this information secret. The NSA in the United States and other U.S. departments have enormous resources and data on the subject.

For those that are interested in more exploration on this subject there is an excellent site at :

http://www.meta-religion.com/Secret_societies/Conspiracies/Echelon/exposing_the_global.htm

Take a look at the paranormal section too. This will give you some indication on how to establish whether what you see is the result of a spirit or ghost or just electrical disturbances or sound waves. There, I have bored you enough. The point I wish to get across is that we do have extraordinary access to information.

There is one more thing that you should know. Ghosts, spirits, a presence or whatever you wish to call us, and I like the fact that you are kind enough to call me Michael and not ghost or spirit, are much more useful than you may think. How many times have you read in the newspaper about an anonymous caller providing information to the police that has resulted in the conviction or solution of a crime? It happens a lot doesn’t it. Many of these are based on the actions of humans but some are not.

There is a recent instance in Birmingham where a spirit witnessed a violent mugging. No information was available to the police. That is until our friend provided the description and car registration number of the culprit to the police. Jack, Janet and I were absolutely amazed at the ingenious method that he used to report the crime. This particular spirit has no access to any receptive human contact but is able to operate a computer. He is not known to those in the building he is trapped. He has no wish to be known to the living.

The secretary at this company uses a voice program where text is turned into voice. The office set up uses wireless equipment although I do know that this is not essential for communication as other spirits are able to access non wireless systems and micro wave as a means of communication. In my case the laptop only works with wirelesss switched on, although the connection is broadband. A technical issue I am sure. I am not a technician.

Instead of communication by normal text he opened up her voice program and typed in the following message before converting it to voice and leaving the open program for her to find. Imagine her shock and what she must have thought when she listened to her message.

Dear Pauline,

Good morning. I do not wish to alarm you by the fact that you are arriving at your computer to find that it has been tampered with, or rather, used by someone while you have been away but I have some very important information for you.

The fact that someone has been in your office and witnessed a crime should not be a reason for concern as I have no wish to steal or access your premises for any personal motives. Let us just say that I was passing by.

Last night a car parked on the pavement outside your office and one of the occupants, a white youth, around 5’ 6”, black medium length hair and with a goatee beard, wearing jeans, adidas trainers and a bobble hat, walked about 50 yards down the adjoining side street to the alleyway by the Pub that you can see from your managers office. He was also wearing a distinctive orange and black anorak. He waited there for about five minutes. A bald gentleman, rather portly and carrying a briefcase was walking towards him. As the person drew level the youth, without warning struck out at the gentleman and produced a knife. It was a sickening scene and totally uncalled for. The victim handed over his briefcase and what looked like a mobile phone and a wallet.

The youth then sprinted back up the road, around the corner, and jumped into the waiting car which sped off immediately. The car was a black Metro. The registration number was ( I omit this in this report for obvious reasons although it was given ).

Your first action should be to report this to your manager and then ring the police. After all, your office has also been entered so you must report this crime. If you believe that this is not a truthful account of what happened then you should satisfy your curiosity and still ring the police to ask them if anyone was mugged here last night.

Thank you for your attention.

You can imagine the reaction on the police officers face when he finally called round to view the evidence. Our friend gives a hilarious account of finger print taking of the computer and inspections by the police to find out how the information was given. Misguided, the manager of the office still thinks to this day that someone hacked into the computer system in order to leave the message. Hardly unreasonable since the buildings internal CCTV recorded no intruders.

Suffice to say that the police did apprehend the villains and justice was served. You never really know who is watching do you. Does that worry you? I hope not. We mean you no ill. There are many instances like this. I will tell you next time of our very own experience when Jack and I came face to face with a real live burglar. The advantage of being a spirit is the absence of fear of injury. I cannot say the same for the burglar.

I still have not managed to tell you about the account of Jack in the witnessing of my death and the burglary that led to my discovery that I could manipulate certain electrical items. I am more conscious of time these days. There never seems to be enough time and I have much more time on my hands than any of you. Oh dear, more questions. Too many questions. I will call back soon, in between my research and my chatterings. Bless all of you, sceptic, believer, human or spirit.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:38 pm    Post subject: Michael Pennington Reply with quote

Hiya all

I can't believe it!

We must be the only website with a resident ghost! Unless of course you know different.

This will be the talking point in the pubs of Britian tonight!

Love Pat ---x----
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well can you belive it!!!

Michael,

You still didnt answer my question about the link that i found on Most Haunted regarding your daughter ? waiting for next chat with you

Claire xx(Was Emily)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wespacetwospacearespaceamongspaceyou
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:47 pm    Post subject: ghosts Reply with quote

Hiya it Pat here again

Can we get Tony Stockwell of 'Street Physic', to investigate this. He is really lovely and dishy too.

I'd like to run into him at any time. Do you think he's read this board?

Regards Pat

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Listern guys as our friend said, lets not get to involved at the mo, for one, it would be nasty if his writings stopped. two, this forum would be over come with hundreds of people looking and posting, it would be murder to write.
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Claire 30
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Michael its Claire again !!

I am finding this really hard to belive !!

The normal office hours are 9-5.30
it must have taken you at least half an hour to type that last post, how did you manage it without being spotted????
If there was a problem with the computors all day surely Janet would have been very behind with her work and couldnt have let you use her computor!!

Please explain

Claire xx
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:55 pm    Post subject: hi Claire Reply with quote

hi Claire 30

Michael already answered that question a few days ago, he siad it is his daughter.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry i dont remember that, he said he had a daughter and she lived in Wales but i dont remember him saying that that the website was his daughter.

Wot page is it on ill have a little look,

Thanks

Claire
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As said before, i think Michael has hit the nail on the head, when i said people where looking in here with great interest, not just us posters. This link with the government records is very interesting, it also makes me think that a communication link could be set up with Micheal and any one of us, if it was needed. I mean these guys have records on all of us, so our names addresses and everything could be accessed by Michael,
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well thanks, ill sleep better tonite knowing that lol icon_lol.gif
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michael - the GCHQ mention was picked up - nice that the only other organisation that seems to have ghosts using computers is one that people can't check up on.

Give my regards to the Professor - make the most of your time chatting with him via computer as he only has a few weeks left.

Steve
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michael

How does someone on a disconnected computer system talk to you. The GCHQ network isn't connected to the internet.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 5:21 pm    Post subject: stressed lady Reply with quote

Can we just get on with the story.. dont frighten him away



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colin
Do you really believe that there is no internet link within GCHQ.It certainly would be separate to the mainframe system but I can't believe that there would be no use for internet access.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Janet

He specifically states that the Professor communicates via the mainframe computer - not from a standalone PC connected to the internet.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you need to finish the story, or i have a feeling you will not get to the end of it, as hype of this site will get to a phase where i think some one in admin will close the link.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can we have a link and start up another forum to chat about this. As i think the story may get lost.
Can some one also please state if they have more of an interest on this topic than just us posters.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 5:39 pm    Post subject: Janet - re: Michael Reply with quote

Hi,

I have a vested interest in this topic. I think everyone is getting a little too concerned. Michael is worried about attracting too much attention to himself. Could you please try and keep this to yourselves as much as possible.

Thanks
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I must say I am really glued to these events and the story in hand.

Maybe this is getting too popular for michael -so maybe we could back off a little.
Just a suggestion.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What kind of vested interest??? If you dont mind me asking. icon_wink.gif
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would Michael be worried he started it up himself, Im sorry but if he had wanted to keep it quiet he should never have come to a public chat forum where people are going to be very interested!!
We obviously dont want to blab it everywhere but we are trying to understand all of this and the only way is by asking Michael questions!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Backs off - do continue your story Michael please please please


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 5:54 pm    Post subject: Message for Janet Reply with quote

Hi,

Janet, I notice you have two dots by each side of your name. Does this mean that you are the Janet in the story or are you just another poster that is interested. We will not hand out details of your IP address which I notice is from a Birmingham based firm. I give you our word on this. Can you drop us an email if you the 'real Janet'. I know this is asking a lot but there are just a couple of questions we would like to ask in private if that is ok with you. Many thanks.

PS: Don't worry we are hardly going to close down the forum. It is as of much interest to us as everyone else reading it!
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