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Does anyone have any ghost stories of Birmingham
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bluelotus92



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goodnight Michael if you are still watching this forum.
I hope you can return and tell us the rest of your story ..


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must have a ghost in the machine!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:01 am    Post subject: Ozzy did you see it too? Reply with quote

Spooky or what. It wasnt like that for more than a few minutes im sure. Someone messin about. Good job you saw it too or id be questioning my state of mind LOL
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was upside down the whole time I was looking ... icon_eek.gif
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was upside down for only a few mins
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:12 am    Post subject: This is affecting my life Reply with quote

I never stay up this late. I even left my PC on last night with a word document open. I think Im going to get some medication. I need help.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think he's going to make an appearance, must have been scared off by press interest. Which proves this hoax has got out of hand...or indeed he has attracted to much interest. Can't wait to see what FT makes of it all.

I too must adjourn but I did think of leaving the Mac on overnight to see if I get anything.

Michael, wherever and whatever you are...goodnight.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ooo it took me longer than a few mins to read this thread ... it was upside down the whole time
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mooksta wrote:
Can't wait to see what FT makes of it all.


<makes note> Nothing to report as of 2.30 am GMT.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lobelia Overhill wrote:
Mooksta wrote:
Can't wait to see what FT makes of it all.


<makes note> Nothing to report as of 2.30 am GMT.


Actually check your Forums index. "Ghost" was logged in for 5 minutes after I logged out. So I thought I'd log back on quickly as he's back.

(Just to prove it aint me)
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

<makes note>

2.45am GMT someone saw something ...


Ach, I'm of to the pub ... night all icon_biggrin.gif

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mooksta wrote:
I don't think he's going to make an appearance, must have been scared off by press interest. Which proves this hoax has got out of hand...or indeed he has attracted to much interest. Can't wait to see what FT makes of it all.


we don't actully write for the mag, we just post on its MB (alot icon_eek.gif )
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:59 am    Post subject: Michael Pennington Reply with quote

Hello again my friends,

Thank you all for your comments.

Adelfaya, your scepticism is not unfounded. It is a trait of human nature and also present in the spirit world. I am sceptical about aliens. This is because I have experienced nothing to prove that they exist. That of course in itself confirms nothing. There may, or may not, be aliens. I have no idea.

I was not aware that my writing style had changed in any way. Badger has been perceptive and correct. It was a little rushed I confess.

Indeed Badger, has also picked up on the fact that things have moved to a different level. Do not be concerned though I have much more to say. It may just require a different strategy of delivery. The dilemma I have is the amount of interest that your postings are creating. I particularly avoided supernatural websites and settled for a quieter forum in my home city. There are reasons why. They will be divulged. I think the time has come to provide some reasons for my course of action.

I can obtain all kinds of information. Almost anything in fact, so long as I have a spirit contact in the right location. If I do not there is always another presence that will know of a spirit that can assist. This is a well organised network that spans the globe. I am heavily criticised by my peers for my actions, which are now becoming a source of discomfort to me. I have however proved them wrong and there are others that are supporting me in this cause. It is fortunate that the majority of you are sceptical and that it is assumed that I will not be believed or this program would have been shut down long ago. As mentioned previously, this could all be a hoax.

Perhaps the most useful contribution that the spirit world can provide to the human race is one of historic interest. Just because a spirit inhabits a lab does not mean that he or she can carry out effective research. I would hate to try picking up a test tube. Jack would fare better at this I feel. Many spirits marvel at the advances of technology and are in awe of the clever minds behind new discoveries. Badger, you ask sensible and intelligent questions.

My dear admin. I must be causing you chaos. I hope that you do not object to my hijacking your Message Forum. I am once again in your debt for you kind assistance. You have certainly been a most hospitable host. If you owned a hotel I would haunt it with pleasure.

And Pat, my dear Pat. Your request for a medium. The object of my pursuit. I will come back to this remark further on. People are discovering the reasons that lie behind my unconventional approach to the living. You are certainly doing your utmost to promote our fine and modern city Pat. I wish I could see it in its full glory for myself. It has changed so. And a note to others - Please refrain from any questions asking how I would know what it looks like today, and take a look at the photographs on this fine web site and that of http://www.virtual-brum.co.uk/ and http://www.bplphoto.co.uk/

My Dear Claire, how possessive of you. I have visited Most Haunted and the links of forums that people have been kind enough to provide here on these threads. I am always interested to see what people are up to. I have visited a few similar sites and some of these before, but this is not where I would choose to frequent normally. There is more scepticism on the dedicated sites than anywhere else, and can you blame them. Of course not. The supernatural is their interest and they have seen charlatans come and go on many occasions.

For me, it is difficult to locate what I seek on those sites. This does not mean that I am against them or the people that frequent them at all. Moreover, I admire them. But, this is my home. This is my city. This is where I start.

Pat, I would consider holding a party for the 800 if I didn’t already know the 2 spirits that frequent the Bull Ring. There an additional 4 in New Street Station if this is of interest. There are no others that we are aware of in that vicinity.

Brendan. I almost bowed and paid you homage. I thought that you were the answer to my dreams with your opening message;

Hi, my name is Brendan and I run the supernatural world.

I would be interested to see some of your publications and shall make a point of visiting your website now that you have mentioned it. Thank you for this information. This certainly is a tall but far fetched story and I thank you for your compliments and for taking the trouble to visit us. Just one little piece of advice if I may, and I really do hope that you will not take this the wrong way, but are you not supposed to have a more open mind than most if you are experienced in the paranormal? Now, having said that, I seek advice from you. Just what exactly lies behind my spirit mind? I would like to know this from as many sources as possible please. Perhaps I should seek help. Could it be that I am seeking help? Perhaps I am insane Pat. Perhaps I am not. To create speculation and theory I will change my font tonight. Will that help? It was kind of you to offer us the opportunity of going for a drink one night. I fear beer passes right through me and spirits give me flashing lights and strange feelings. I am glad you are with us Pat. You are a shining star.

Dippysea. You are checking up on the known laws of physics. Parts of what you ask are easy to answer and will conform to what you would expect. The light does not. Let us take a look at the keyboard. I feel as if I am pushing the keys, if you can call it a feeling. I believe it to be more of an electrical charge. I am aware of a slight movement in the keys but not a firm pressing down of the keys on their pad. However, each time it works perfectly, and there is no apparent problem with them making a contact. In Jack’s case the keys are depressed fully and the effect is the same as that of a human, except of course that all you see are the keys being depressed. Jack has to be more careful than I do as he is a noisy typist. There is no sound when I type. Whilst Jack’s actions seem physical, there is nothing physical about him. Therefore I can only deduce that we must be using some form of electrical energy. Almost every spirit will confer that this is the easiest way of describing our existence, actions, and operations.

The switch does not move when the light goes on. I agree with what you are saying, and a good storyteller would probably tell you that the switch moved in order to comply. However, it does not move.

The mouse is very easily explained and is easier than the keys to operate. It is a touch pad built into the laptop. You are indeed lucky to have a mind that enquires about such things.

Badger you have been fishing around in the canal backwaters and Pat, I do not show up on TV and I never shall.

Bam bam. Why does the professor swear and use the word dude? I have no idea. Why are you called bam bam? Well noted Claire, and more importantly, not a long time since his death either, well, compared with say my own circumstances. He is not American Anna.

Ah, fellow ghost. You amuse me. I shall have to seek a meeting with you so that you can educate me in the ways of shouting and the use of vocal chords that I miss so much. I am sure you were just dreaming. When the affect of the alcohol wears off, the numbness will disappear, and you can shake yourself again and take an aspirin.

Who is this? Press_office. If you are really from the press you should endeavour to read a little more carefully. After all, is this not your trade? You annoy me. How can you represent a quality newspaper if you cannot read properly yourself and pay attention to content and my expression of wishes so clearly documented here. I fear you seize an opportunity for your own personal interests and I have no interest in such matters.

This concerns me. I knew this would happen. I think some re structuring and a more sensible method of delivery of my memoirs is now required. The usefulness of this forum has ended. I will not desert you my friends. I feel I cannot do that. I may however need to rethink the way I am going about my quest.

I must say the level of questions and observations has increased considerably. When I last visited I was let off lightly.

And now a special message for Chris.Wain. Thank you Chris for being in the minority and yet still having the conviction to stand up for your beliefs. You are indeed a brave man. There are many that will snigger and deride you for your point of view, as they do mine. I do not praise you just because you believe in my story. I have said before that it is not relevant to me what people think. I praise you for being honest. I notice that Anna supports your view. You are not alone. Anna you are rather a sweetie aren’t you.

Thank you Ambient Breeze. That was interesting. I have seen a very similar article. This is the type of article that people should be reading. For those that have no wish to look it up, although I would suggest that you do, the article clearly deals with computers and the fact that this is not a new discovery as some of you may think. Reading this may help you understand, and, ask me less questions on the technical aspects of the communication.

http://www.sacbee.com/content/business/story/5011823p-6019855c.html

I would particularly draw your attention to the part that states “ ITC believers say contacts are possible because teams of spirits are committed to opening channels of communication between both worlds. Such teams, they say, require harmony and cooperation among their living contacts for successful ITC to occur”. I would place great emphasis on the harmony and cooperation among their living contacts.

This web site also shows a link to an organisation that is trying its best to provide important research with a complete lack of sufficient funding. I know this and similar web sites and organisations very well. Whilst millions of pounds of your taxes are spent in armaments to provide cannon fodder for the after life, organisations like this that could help bond the ties between the spirit world and the living are laid waste and discarded as insignificant entities of no merit.

http://www.worlditc.org/

Where are you from Ambient Breeze? It mentions Suffolk on your web site. Are you a medium? Can you please respond by PM in the formal way of identification or if you are not aware of this can you perhaps give me an idea of your abilities with regard to ITC. Are you another Janet?

Ebjeebe – Thank You. I did not expect such a level of attention. It is most unwelcome with regard to publicity hounds, despite what many may think. I imagine by now that some of you are beginning to understand the reason behind why I have made contact in this way on a message forum. Am I mistaken?.

Denski I do like your photo but I would imagine you are a little young to be in here.

Mooksta – Thank you for the warning. You have confirmed my worst fears. I do not know what the Fortean site is but I have no wish for commercial mediums to try and establish contact. There is now far too much talk of Press and Media involvement. You are most definitely right. It is time to withdraw.

Now, before everyone is up in arms and disagrees with Mooksta will you please let me continue because there is so much more that I really want to tell you and I have no wish to leave you in any suspense. Mooksta is not saying this as someone from the media. He is being helpful and we all know that he is right. So I have a proposal.

I have no wish to leave you without completing my memoirs. However, the situation at present is such that I spend most of my time answering your questions and trying to provide you with pointers. I am constantly asked to prove that ghosts exist. To reveal myself and come forward. Many of you are missing the point. If you think about what has been said and discussed, you will have already started to work out what this is all about.

I reiterate that I have no intention of changing my existence or my environment before I am ready. We are happy here. I have not been completely honest with you in more than one respect. Firstly, embarrassed though I am, I have to admit that my memoirs were just a hook. The real meaning behind this communication is much more important than what happened to me. I am gratified that you found it of interest all the same.

As a result of this experiment, I have now established contact with 3 more lost spirits and two very helpful humans with abilities beyond the norm. In essence, this short exercise of a few days has produced some spectacular results. Two human visitors to this message board who have ‘the special gift’ are now communicating with us and helping our new found spirit friends. This is a truly spectacular achievement of which we should all be proud.

There are rules and established methods and lines of contact between the spirit world and the living. We have not broken any rules. We have just edged a little towards the outer circle of what is deemed to be the acceptable barrier between our worlds.

Alas, I did not find my genuine and experienced medium. Perhaps I should have provided more signals so that they would have understood. No matter. I have found two wonderful human beings to join Janet in our crusade. This kind of matching between human and spirit is happening all over the country. You should be aware of it. Not only this country, but all round the globe. This is an organised and orchestrated mission that will change the course of history. Of that you should have no doubt.

So, where do we go from here? This mission has ended for me. However, I now have a problem that I had not envisaged. I have enjoyed being with you so much. I have relished your enthusiasm and your searching questions and now I must go and let you down by leaving? If it were me I would feel used and conned. I obviously cannot do this but I also cannot risk putting my situation and that of others in jeopardy.

The solution would appear to be to put a halt on my memoirs in here. I cannot answer all your questions and provide you with my memoirs at the same time. The account becomes fragmented this way, separated and interrupted by text, leaving the reader to become confused and uncertain as to the previous content when the next chapter arrives.

Here is what we will do. I will collate and re organise my memoirs. I will add in the content that I have not included so far, and I will bring my account up to the present day. I will include what I know about the spirit world and pass you information that I have gleaned from others. You must promise me that you will use this for your own personal use. It is for you and you only. Every member of this message board who has been involved will be entitled to it. It is NOT for anyone else and for general distribution or re sale. I will make sure that this is prepared and delivered to you.

You must give me some time to prepare this. It will take more than a week. You must be patient. In the meantime I will continue to provide any information that I can, and answer your questions, but I do not bend forks, cannot guess your name, and I do not know how to communicate with your dog.

It has been a pleasure. I must now sneak away to find some quiet corner of the web with which to repeat this exercise away from the prying eyes of the media. It is time for me to become Martin Farringdon from Utah or Texas. A cowboy who died a violent death in a stampede. Or something along those lines. You get the idea. The process works. It is tried and tested.

We need more recruits. Our network is growing fast. There are so many more souls to save. I will be back. I will not abandon you. I think too highly of you for that, and, after all, this is my home city. Most importantly, you met the real Michael Pennington with a real story to tell.

Until soon my friends.

Lobelia, Spanglo and Shearluck – Get to bed this is madness.
Goodnight Mooksta – another 5 and I would have been able to chat with you. Did you not see my smiling at you on your Mac screen? This also works when the appliance is off. Goodnight everyone. Time for my chat channels.

Michael
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goodnight Mike.

look forward to hearing from you.

Mooksta
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry if you thought i was involved with the press in anyway, Lobelia and I are not.

I really have enjoyed your memoirs michael, even if this is a hoax you rarely get such origional and gripping ghost storys thease days and even rarer from the ghosts own perspective. thanks for taking the time to write them icon_cool.gif

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I would have thought there were a lot of ghosts in the coach station in birmingham... A lot of people get a very opressive fealing in tnat place (includeing mysel)f
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could weep. Those of us who have followed this quietly from the beginning won't be included in the final telling of the story. I was only trying to be polite and not clog the board with posts. Now I'll never hear the end. icon_cry.gif
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ekaterina wrote:
I could weep. Those of us who have followed this quietly from the beginning won't be included in the final telling of the story. I was only trying to be polite and not clog the board with posts. Now I'll never hear the end. icon_cry.gif


me too!! michael please send me one ... i just finished reading it all!!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good Morning all... puts a brave face on icon_smile.gif
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michael

I too was baffled by the language of your "professor".

I have done some checking - the Current security alert level for GCHQ is clearly visable from the main road along with a board listing the other security states. The system used at GCHQ is widely used in other government departments.

The departmental names the "professor" used have not been used for a few years now - so your professor isn't keeping upto date.

Facts apart its a very entertaining yarn.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 8:08 am    Post subject: Me Too Reply with quote

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I could weep. Those of us who have followed this quietly from the beginning won't be included in the final telling of the story. I was only trying to be polite and not clog the board with posts. Now I'll never hear the end.


Me too Ekaterina, me too icon_sad.gif
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 8:41 am    Post subject: Michael! Reply with quote

We all understand that you have to go but we will miss you! The ribbing I have taken from my boyfriend about this is unbelievable, but many others and I dared to keep coming back and we dared to post, in a world where we can be ridiculed. We didn't take the Pish, we questioned things, quite rightly so according to Michael, but we stayed open minded to him and thats what counts.

Michael, we are all going to miss you but thank you for being loyal to us and ensuring we all receive copies of you story.

I am a believer in the spirit world and am even in the early stages of development as a medium, but this is my most remarkable paranormal experience to date. You captured my imagination Michael and made me think. So much to the point that when I left the office last night, I whispered to whoever is there (I have felt a presense before just like Janet) to use my machine to write me a message. I left an open word document and a message on the front saying 'do not turn off'. My theory is that everyone would think I was in the middle of down loading something.

I got in this morning and nothing was typed and I felt a little dissappointed until I noticed that the scroll bar at the bottom of the document had been moved completly to the right side. I did not leave it like this. Before you say, could it be the cleaners, trust me on that they don't even touch the desks and would think better of it, given the state of mine LOL

So, maybe that was my little bit of contact. Michael did say that moving the mouse is easier and that is what would've happened in my case.

Thank you Michael, for making the last three/four days memorable in our life time. Thank you for opening our minds and our hearts.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So only a selected few will get to hear the end?
The cheek!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 9:05 am    Post subject: This is amazing! Reply with quote

Hiya all

Its Pat here.

I cannot believe how this has taken off!

People are coming on the site from all over the world now. Shed a new light on Birmingham, now everone is talking about it.

What does admin think?

This is great fun and I really wish I know who did it. Maybe someone like Colin Fry or Derek Acorah should get involved. I'm interested in Spiritulisum by the way. Has out friend been on other web-sites too?

Come on MIchael own up? Please - who the hell are you?

Everyone please keep in touch and if anyone wants to go ghost hunting with me then I'll be happy. Please leave me a message. Hope to meet you all soon at some point.

Lots of love Pat
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I must be quick. Janet has arrived and the others will be here between 9.00 and 9.30.

Shearluck, Do not be concerned. I did not think this. Also, my comments with regard to Bull Ring were for Janet ,as she had mentioned 800 people being buried under its structure. The coach station is further away. There are indeed spirits in the coach station. I prefer to call them spirits rather than ghosts.

Ekaterina, Just Me and micah. Oh, and of course frankee. There are many who have not contributed and that have just followed the story. Do not worry. You have made yourself known now. Therefore you are part of our family of friends. Simply by making yourselves known you have ensured that you will be kept informed and receive your copy of the book when it is ready, and it will not take long for it to be ready.

Stephen – I question your need to ask such an obvious question if this information can be seen by many from the road. I also note that someone has removed part of what the professor said from the posting. Others may remember that he said a little more than is documented there now. How very odd. Anyway, Stephen. That is what he said and for my part I have no doubt that he is there. I certainly will not annoy him again on this matter.

Finally to ebjeebe. Thank you for your understanding. What you did when you left the office last night was the single most important factor in your efforts to become a good medium, particularly if you have felt a presence there before. This is how our two human friends established contact with us and other spirits.

You mention that there was no type but you are certain that there had been movement of the document. You simply must continue with this experiment if this is the case. It may take a couple of days for the spirit to understand what is going on. He or she will know if you are receptive. If you are they will try and make contact but you may have to lead them. You left a note saying do not turn off and yet you left no explanation for the spirit. Use something similar to Janet’s note shown in one of my previous posts. You need to provide some guidance. Whatever you leave, if a presence is there it will be read and understood. I hope this helps. I must go, Janet is getting concerned as the place if filling up.

I will answer any questions or concerns you have. I will be back.

Michael
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michael - I never asked the question about security levels in the first place. I have not looked at the "edited" version of what the "professor" said. If its been edited then it must have been done by someone with admin rights (or someone has found a nice hole in the phpBB software!).

I have now looked at it and I see that the stuff on departments names has been removed.

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