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Badger



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Admin can you step in here and remind us all of the forum protacol please.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But you are aware of the concept and general themes and ideas behind Scooby Doo?
Then your aware that they spend a lot of time "chasing ghosts" (the subject of this forum).

Kudos for the kiddies watching Scooby Doo!

And on another note...

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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 5:18 pm    Post subject:
Stop bickering now.


AGREED
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wot is the protacol Badger??

Badger wrote:
Admin can you step in here and remind us all of the forum protacol please.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the protocol is i'm right and you're wrong
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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oooh badger your gonna get it tonight!

Michael wasn't happy.
Lets us no when your world turns upside down.
(Hide your staplers!)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mooksta wrote:
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oooh badger your gonna get it tonight!

Michael wasn't happy.
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What!!! Nobody was having a go at Badger.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okedocky then your right im wrong in your opinion.

I have said my piece im not a child and dont expect to be treated as one
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Emily2
from page 123.
Michaels last post in this forum.
Remember the recap, Michael said someone would betray him. (My money was on Micah personally)

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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 2:44 am    Post subject: Michael Pennington

The lightning flashes, the thunder and feeling of earth tremors under your seat as you sit by your PC are for you Badger. I will not tell, not I he says. Jack was correct. Pumpkin was the culprit. "


Don't worry thought I think Bagder can take care of himself. He's probably sitting in a bucket of Holy Waterv as we type.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Allright I own up it was me all along!!!javascript:emoticon('icon_lol.gif')

(please note thye above statement was intended as humourous, I cannot be held responsible if you don't laugh)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oooh, just been catching up, I love a good slanging match..... icon_lol.gif

Anyway, here are my feelings.

Mooksta, you're a funny guy, although I can understand why some may get upset over some of your posts. The same I feel for Micah. Personally I have a warped sense of humour and enjoy all the posts on here. My advice for those whomay be offended by anything posted on here, is simply not to read anything not posted by 'The Main Attraction' thus, giving those who wish to have a laugh/dig at others the oppotunity to do so without offending anyone.

Just my opinions, now, I hope I haven't offended anyway.

* Waits patiently for the backlash * icon_redface.gif

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi everyone.

I've been working really hard today and couldn't be on here all day but I have logged in a few times at work to catch up. All I've seen so far is bitching. I came on here last night and felt deliberatly provoked into an argument and I reacted - badly I admit!

Shall we all call a truce now and get back to what we're here for - to talk to and wait to talk to Michael.

I think you are all great people and I am proud to have met you all. I haven't and won't ever forget the concern that was shown towards me on Sunday night when I was given the message from Ghost.

Lets all be friends and enjoy talking to each other like we did before.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hurrah.

Some sense!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

consider it done ebjeebe

at one point i thought maybe ghost and you were the same person!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

icon_lol.gif no!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lianne - "Mooksta, you're a funny guy, although I can understand why some may get upset over some of your posts. The same I feel for Micah. Personally I have a warped sense of humour and enjoy all the posts on here. My advice for those whomay be offended by anything posted on here, is simply not to read anything not posted by 'The Main Attraction' thus, giving those who wish to have a laugh/dig at others the oppotunity to do so without offending anyone. "

Thank you for that. Here's the deal if you see the Red Baron at the side, I've written it. Don't read it if you don't want to!!

eebs - "I think you are all great people and I am proud to have met you all."

Well said that girl!!! RU ok?

Now...

together into the night!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm fine thanks hun. I was a little fired up last night (bad, bad day at work didn't help) but I'm fine now.
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Eebs have you considered a career with the U.N. icon_question.gif icon_lol.gif
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

icon_lol.gif I'm not always this diplomatic - can be a right cow when I get going!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ebjeebe...obviously i have been a sceptic of ghost....although he did seems to pinpoint some things for you..i simply want to offer an alternative to him contacting spirits...

you can take it or leave it....

if you believe in Biblical things.......the Bible makes it clear that this type of activity can be accomplished with the greatest of ease through demons...it is possible that ghost communicates with demons and thats where he gets his info....

not that i believe that, but i suppose it's possible...just wanted to give another alternative...take it or leave it
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 6:27 pm    Post subject: Michael Pennington Reply with quote

My Dear friends

I feel that I have somewhat let you down whilst I have been busy. I have not had the time to dedicate myself to your enquiries and the interest that you have been taking in my predicament. There are reasons behind my absence. This weekend my body or what remains of it were exhumed. I will explain this in more detail later. First however, I shall make a few comments based on my interesting conversation with some of you last night and details from what I have gleaned from the Message Forum.

It would appear that some of you are causing friction and animosity toward others. The purpose of my memoirs is to provide you with an insight into life after death as it is observed by some of us in the spirit world. Life is too short for arguments and derision of persons who are merely trying to express their point of view.

I read with concern that our friend Ghost is being tormented by criticism. I also was a little sharp and impatient with him on my last visit. Perhaps Ghost it was unwise to claim that you were a spirit but I feel that your postings and expression of goodwill and willingness to share and try and help people is based on the best of intentions. It would be sad indeed if we have driven you from this Message Board.

My impish behaviour in meddling once again with the logo was not a sign that I had picked up any supernatural transgression of thoughts or thought processes. I wish I had the power to do such things and my task would be much easier if this were the case. It was simply that I read your postings on the Message Forum.

I have also failed some of you by not replying with a sense of immediacy with regard to your postings and private messages. This I will do. It is just that there has been so much happening in recent days and the new turn of events has taken up much of my time. My email address is now visible for you to email me any personal questions that you may have. If you cannot access the Yahoo Groups then please ask a friend to retrieve the address for you so that you can contact me directly. Please DO NOT post it here in this forum or I fear I shall have approaches from those that have not actively been following my progress. It is private for you and for your use only. If you do wish to send me an email I would request that you put your Forum nickname in the header and introduce yourselves under your real name. I do abhor communicating with the unknown with respect to human contact.

There are some things which remain unclear and which I fear is a cause for confusion for some of you. I am not a medium and cannot claim to have powers of communication with other spirits by thought process. If you are desperate to make contact and you are trying too hard then I fear that contact may not transpire. If you are a genuine medium then you will know that it is only correct to discuss your findings in private with the individuals concerned. If I were to pass a message on to someone at the request of a spirit I would do this with the utmost care and confidentiality.


I do have some ability whether psychic or otherwise. This is perhaps not the correct term and should remain in the domain of humans but our electrical energy is beyond the comprehension of many. The very idea that a spirit is communicating with you by a Message Forum and by a chat program is more than a little unbelievable.

With regard to your interest in contacting others. There are many of you that I feel do have an ability in this field and I understand that you are keen and willing to explore the process of making contact with others from the after life. I can only relay to you my own experience of how this works, the nature of which is contained within my past and current writings.

If you are in the presence of spirits or the unknown and you strongly sense their being then I would urge you to act with a degree of constraint. Your contacts are most probably glad to have your company and take an active interest in your person and your well being. If you are experiencing these feelings then you are indeed a special person. I have merely passed on to you my own method of communication and how it works for me. There may be some very valid reasons why you are unable to make contact with others.

Let us take a look at what may be happening and the underlying reasons why contact is not as simple as it may seem. As an example. Once contact had been established with Janet it still took me some time to discover that I could communicate with her through a computer. I had already been observing people using computers for some weeks prior to this chance and yet amazing discovery. Despite this, I still have to communicate via a particular laptop with a wireless connection. I cannot operate a standard PC and keyboard. Please do not all rush out and purchase such items as this would be an expensive exercise. I do know that there are others like me that communicate on normal PC equipment.

If you have left a clear messages to a presence or spirits that you believe are with you, and following the same procedure as Janet you have made attempts to contact your ‘friends’, then do not be disheartened if the results are not forthcoming. It may be that those present cannot operate your equipment or cannot sense that you feel they are present. If they do feel that you sense their being this may be enough for them and they may have no wish to contact the living.

For my part I continue to endeavour to establish contact with the lost souls that are around us. I am making considerable progress in this field. One day you will happen upon an article on the internet or a forum somewhere and recognise my style of approach. The story may be similar to my own but in different circumstances or on a different continent, but the aim will be the same. You will smile and understand. I hope you will have fond memories of me. Regardless of what happens to me this message will be passed on to others and my efforts will not be in vain. Others have now joined me and the message is spreading.

Some day in the not too distant future and during most of your lifetimes the whole subject of spirits and ghosts and the paranormal will be explained. The human race has made great progress in this arena and it will not be long before our network announces its existence to the living. There will be a most eventful and historic day that will come to pass and history will be re written. Governments and nations will unite in a way that would be impossible in today’s climate. You will have been part of that. You will think back and remember Michael. It will all make sense to you. My mission will have been worthwhile. For the time being let us consider that this account of my life and death are the ramblings of a fool. No matter. I do not take offence at this suggestion. It is of no relevance.

When my E Book has been passed on to you I will leave these forums. I hope that the admin will suffer their continued existence as a testament to my being and as a means by which other humans and spirits can establish contact. Once I am gone you can pass the details of my writings on this forum to who ever you wish but the book is only personally gifted to my friends. I have no fear of press or media coverage once I am gone. I respectfully request that you do not pass on my email details or the details of the Yahoo Group which will be closed to new members once this chapter in my existence has passed. My email and the Yahoo Group will continue to provide me with the means of communication with my new found friends. This is assuming that I do not move on or find myself in some other environment, heavenly or otherwise after my burial.

And to you. What of you. The sceptic, the believer, the spirit and the interested souls just passing by. Spare a moment to think about what I have said. Treasure your new found friends that this forum has blessed you with. You have gained more than you can imagine from this experience. Use it to your advantage. Drop by once in a while but do not let it become an addiction. Hug your loved ones and devote more time to them. This is what matters. You are most fortunate in this respect.

One thing that you may find strange and that death has taught me. If I were to live my time again as a human being, would I change anything? I most certainly would. The stupidity of my selfish existence as a human is easily observed with hindsight. Such a pity that I was not privy to what I know now. Worldly possessions and the quest for material goods are a poor substitute for love. Embrace your loved ones. Money cannot buy you happiness. It may seem to help misery more easy to cope with but that is a false delusion. Some of the happiest people in the world are poor.

To the evil of this world I serve warning. The mad mullahs of the Islam world hiding behind a wall of conceit and self opinionated prophecies. The fanatics of the Catholic and Protestant religions with their fire and brimstone speeches. Religion, in history, has caused more strife and premature death than any World War. I make a sweeping statement in that I can confidently say that I am more religious than many of you who use religion for political gain and advantage even though I embrace no particular Church or religious creed. If you abuse your religion there is little hope, empathy or understanding waiting for you in the after life. Islam, Christianity, Jewish, Sikh or Buddhist. Which is the chosen religion? Does it matter? Embrace them all if it pleases you but do not use them for devious and incorrect interpretations of their meaning and the love that they can inspire.

I am beginning to sound like a prophet of doom. This was not my intention. Perhaps brought on about concerns I have for my own future. I do not know what the future holds for me. I still seek to find old and ancient spirits who have experiences of times long gone in the hope that they might provide me with more substantial evidence of the meaning of life and death.

At this point I feel it is wise to continue with the details of my own situation.

With Jack having provided us with the details of my eventful passing, we were now in a dilemma as to what course of action to take. We know that one of the perpetrators of my demise from my human form has conveniently left us with a locket and a name. The fact that this lies somewhere in the shifting silt of the canal waters was a matter of some concern but if it were a gold locket or necklace there was every possibility that the murderers could be brought to justice.

While you were all enjoying your Christmas break our beloved Janet was spending her time back and forth from libraries and registrar offices compiling information that would be needed to trace our targets. Janet compiled a detailed and accurate document for the police and managed to find the current address of one of the two men that had killed me all those years ago. One of them has died. I have more than a few words I would like to convey to this individual if I ever come across him in my journey around the spiritual world. I am not a vindictive personality by nature and I would not wish to torment his soul but I do have spirit friends on the look out for him.

It transpired that the remaining and living character now lives in Newtown in Birmingham. A much older man now. With amazement and awe we collated the information and went about our investigations. Janet, much to our concern at the time, even paid the street a visit and observed the individual concerned walking to the post office. Armed with a digital camera and sitting in her car with the window open she took several photographs of him for our perusal. Jack was able to confirm that whilst the years had taken their toll, this was one of the men that had been responsible for my death.

The scene was set but we were now in a quandary. How would we actually approach the police? How would Janet explain how she had come about the evidence? This would obviously draw attention to the company and would not go without notice. There was no concern that Janet would be arrested for my disappearance as she was but a mere child at the time of my passing. However, the nature and the circumstance by which this evidence had come to light would be the most difficult of problems to overcome. It would not be possible to just ring up the police and call them round. You cannot expect the police to act on such scant evidence and supposition let alone expect them to embark upon digging into a buildings foundations and dredging a canal. This was obviously something that required much skill and delicate handling.

The truth had to be revealed but it was no simple matter. Jack was now becoming very concerned with the turn of events. At best he might lose his closest spirit friend and at worst he might be faced with exorcists and misguided attempts to assist him in moving on. We had major concerns which we discussed and debated considerably in advance of our provision of this information to the police.

And what of me? I had my own concerns. Just what is heaven and hell. What actually happens to us if we move on? There is no guidebook and nothing conclusive that has been written or proven with regard to this. It is all based on supposition. It was a very harrowing time and I am sure Janet did not have a very enjoyable Christmas as a result. Dear Janet, she always puts such a brave face on these matters.

Whilst Jack and I struggled to come to terms with the possibilities and outcomes of our quest, Janet reasoned that we would need more assistance and some tactful negotiation from another trusted human who had no ability or gift with respect to the supernatural.

Janet’s boss is a pleasant and jovial individual of middle age. David is a practical man and a no nonsense businessman. He has been successful though he does not flaunt his success. We know he has a great respect for Janet and he is always careful to treat his employees with kindness, whilst maintaining a firm grip on the day to day running of his enterprising and profitable organisation. Most importantly, he is approachable and is a great listener. This would make our task a little easier. It all depended on David now. Janet would approach him with a view to discussing our predicament. This was also the most honourable thing that we could do considering we were his guests residing at his premises and about to cause a major disruption to his business.

After the Christmas break and after much debate and conversation between Jack and I, the office staff returned to work. Janet had of course spent most of Christmas and the New Year with us, rushing off for Christmas dinner and time with her family in between long days at the office and investigating.

Janet wasted no time in approaching David. She explained that she had a very delicate matter that required his confidential attention and that it was something that would require his full understanding and co operation. She is not normally an assertive person and both Jack and I admired the way she captured his attention. It was agreed that David would discuss this with her after work when the other staff had gone home.

Jack spent most of the day hovering around David to see if he would discuss this with anyone or breach Janet’s confidence by asking questions of others. One of the senior managers had noticed Janet close the door to speak to David and was inquisitive as to the nature of Janet’s enquiry. David’s only acknowledgement was that it was a personal matter that he would be discussing with Janet after work. “ I hope she isn’t going to leave us” was his only comment to the manager.

A day can pass slowly for a spirit too. With so many things to observe and view during a day at a busy office, this was not normally a problem, but this particular day dragged on and on and made me impatient. The time came and Janet was summoned to David’s office. With great curiosity and nervousness Jack and I stood side by side with Janet so that our presence and our support could be felt by her. This was no easy task for Janet. Everything relied on Janet and David’s reaction now.

What you are about to hear are the exact words from the conversation that took place.

David: “Come in Janet, grab a seat, no need to stand on ceremony”.

Janet: Thank you David, I know this is a little unusual but I have something to tell you and I don’t know where to begin”

David: “ At the beginning would be good then. Just fire away and let me know what is on your mind. I have an idea what you are about to tell me anyway but I hope I’m wrong”

Janet: David, I don’t think so, I don’t think you could possibly know what I am about to tell you and what worries me is what you will think of me afterwards”

David looked worried

David: “ I hope it’s not a personal thing or a women thing Janet. I’m not good at that type of thing, are you sure that I am the right person you should be speaking to?”

At this point Janet could take it no longer and burst into tears. This took both Jack and I by surprise and David shuffled nervously in his chair and struggled to work out what to do. Janet regained her composure and continued.

Janet: “In some ways what I am about to tell you is very personal. I have two friends whose very existence may depend on what you decide to do as a result of what I have to say. I don’t know how to begin because if someone were to tell me what I am about to tell you then I would be worried about them. The only reason I am telling you is that I have to. I have no option. I can also prove that what I am saying is based on fact although this in itself will give you reasons for being very concerned.

I have never lied to you and I like to think that I have done a good job whilst I have been working for you and I would hate to lose your friendship and have you dismiss me as a lunatic or someone who should seek therapy. If you can just bring yourself to consider that what I am about to tell you is justified and take the necessary action then I will be indebted to you for the rest of my life. This is how serious I am about the subject and yet I still do not know where to begin”.

David had listened intently to Janet’s words. He looked nervous but at the same time we could tell that he was receptive. Would this change as the story unfolded.

David: “Janet, I have known you for some time now and I want you to know that I am honoured that you have chosen to tell me whatever it is you are about to explain. I like to think of myself as an open minded and approachable person so whatever it is you want to say just spit it out girl and lets discuss it”

Janet: “What worries me David is just how open minded are you and how good are you at keeping a secret and taking action on my findings”

David: “Lets get one thing straight Janet, the fact that you have approached me in this way and are obviously very worried about something leads me to assure you that nothing you tell me will go outside these four walls unless you want it to”

Jack and I listened and waited for Janet’s skilful and tactful explanation and did not expect her to come out with the truth in quite the way that she did. It was so direct and straight to the point. So unlike Janet. She was obviously in distress.

Janet: David, this place is the scene of a murder that took place in 1971. The body is in the basement or cellar area of the building that has been bricked up. There is a necklace and a locket with the murderers name on it in the canal. I have two spirits or ghosts that I am in contact with who are with me right now and I have the name of the person who committed the murder all those years ago and I desperately need you to believe me and help me”

David sat in disbelief and stunned silence. Not a word was spoken for what seemed like an age. This was not going to plan. Janet was sobbing uncontrollably and not handling the situation as well as we had expected. It had all been too much for her. David coughed nervously and was the first to speak

David: “Janet, I really don’t know what to say. I never expected you to come out with something like this. Lets calm down. I need to think about this”.

David swivelled round on his office chair and opened the lower drawer of the filing cabinet. He produced a bottle of brandy and two glasses. Slowly he poured both himself and Janet a double brandy and placed the glasses on the desk. He was trembling and obviously shaken by what he had just heard.

Janet:”I knew you wouldn’t believe me. I knew it. I’m so sorry”

David: “Janet, have you any proof of this?”

Janet: “Yes it can be proved but I don’t know if you are ready for it”

David:”Well, apart from the fact that this has to be the most extra ordinary thing anyone has ever told me in my entire life I am all ears”

Janet stood up. Jack and I nervously careered into each other and felt the electricity of our contact. She rushed out of the office leaving David sat in amazement and returned clutching the laptop. Instantly Jack and I knew what she was doing. If nothing else this could save the day. Janet placed the laptop on David’s desk. She opened up a word document and typed a simple statement.

Boys it is up to you now – help me

To which I typed

David, this is Michael. I am pleased to communicate with you.

If ever a man could have died of fright then this was the time. Instead David stared horrified at the screen with disbelief. He grabbed his glass and in one huge gulp he swallowed its contents and topped it up again. Not a word was spoken between Janet and David for several minutes.

David took charge of the laptop. He turned if off and then back on again. He checked for any new or unusual programs in the start menu and opened up a new word document. He typed the following message.

If this is a joke then it is the best prank I have ever seen

To which I replied

Well no one could have known what your manager was asking you about Janet this morning unless they were in your room. You thought she was going to leave didn’t you. What proof do you need? How can I convince you?

David sank back in his chair. He looked tired and withdrawn. He turned to Janet and spoke slowly and with deliberation.

David: “Janet, I have to get my head round this. This is messing with my mind. Start from the very beginning and tell me everything you know. Let me just ring home and tell them I am going to be late. You have my undivided attention”

That was how it was. I mean how else could we have explained it. Janet filled in the intricate details of how we had met, how Jack had arrived, who we were and what we thought. Throughout all of this David sat intently like a child hearing a fairy tale. And who could blame him. After all, it was the most important and mind blowing experience of his life. Think how you would feel.

David has become our close friend. In some ways he is a changed man. His attention to detail and his love of life has become a passion. David is still running the company effectively but his aspiration for wealth and riches has dwindled. He still takes his responsibility seriously and understands that he is providing work for his employees.

Both David and Janet now plotted and planned their approach to the authorities. David knows a senior police officer at West Midlands Police. It would be far better to use his friend to explain the circumstances behind this strange tale than make a more conventional approach and have PC Plod running amock around his office asking embarrassing questions and ripping the building apart. We had every faith in David. It was not going to be an easy task as you will see. We had however made the right decision.

David made the necessary arrangements for his friend from the police to call round on the following Saturday morning. He contacted his brother who owns a small building contractor firm. He hired a dredger barge for the following weekend. The wheels were in motion. I am approaching the conclusion of the discovery of my death and the trauma and frustrations of the enquiry that followed.

The rest of my account is for issue within the E Book. There are reasons behind why I choose to reveal the final chapter this way. The serving of a D Notice and my subsequent recording on a dossier by the Government has led to certain parts of my account being classified under the Offical Secrets Act. I do not believe that what I have to say is of national concern nor indeed any threat to the security of this or any other country. However, the powers that be have made certain assumptions and do not regard my case as something that is best discussed with the general public. Apparently it is not in the public interest to reveal my accounts or to allow for general distribution.

It is not possible for this or any government to hide what I or other spirits have to say. However, it does not suit my cause to spread panic or any form of disruption at all. This serves no purpose. I will ensure that the conclusion is made available to you this week. Please register your interest at the designated Yahoo Group or forward your email to the admin people at Birmingham UK Com. They have already left you specific instructions on the forum.

I have made many friends here. I will now finish my final chapter and then devote some time to replying and contacting some of the individuals here that have expressed an interest in what I have to say. You may leave messages here for me. I will endeavour to reply via Janet or directly to you if I have your contact details. You know where to find me.

I wish you a long and pleasant life. You will always be in my thoughts. I remain your constant friend.

Michael Pennington ( Deceased )
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evenin' everyone icon_biggrin.gif . Evening Michael icon_biggrin.gif Hope you've all had a better day than I have icon_sad.gif ah well, 'tis over now icon_smile.gif
Mooksta, you said something in an earlier post about being in a band? sorry if I'm being a tad nosey icon_redface.gif
Most haunted tonight ... anyone watching?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Michael.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers (((michael))) Whatever happens, whatever the outcome I just wish you happiness and peace.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 6:48 pm    Post subject: sorry - can I stop rolling round of the floor laughing now Reply with quote

A few comments on Michaels latest posting:

"He contacted his brother who owns a small building contractor firm. He hired a dredger barge for the following weekend."

Ha-ha-ha. Really - you just went out and hired a dregder barge? Who from? Who obtained your permits for dredging? The Birmingham canals are so polluted with heavy metals that the sludge is classed as "toxic" and cannot be dredged without permission... I can easily check up on dredger "barge" companies within a reasonable cruising distance of Oldbury and see if anyone recalls ANY dredging on any of the Oldbury canals over a Weekend - in fact I have already placed a request for information on a specific newsgroup and I expect the answer within a few hours.

"The serving of a D Notice and my subsequent recording on a dossier by the Government has led to certain parts of my account being classified under the Offical Secrets Act."

Sorry - No such thing as a D notice anymore. The modern equivalent is a DA notice which is a "voluntary" code - it is not associated with the OSA.


" Apparently it is not in the public interest to reveal my accounts or to allow for general distribution."

Err so just what do you think this is?

Please Michael if you are going to make statements about things you really should make sure that you know your facts. This is not the first time that you have done it.

Steve
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the message Michael.

Some one check Badger's still alive!!

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