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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 12:05 pm    Post subject: Posting: Logo and Binary Reply with quote

Hi again,

Micah you say you recorded the binary messages. Can you please post them here for us to see as no one else seems to have made a record of them.

Right, there are two Michaels. I thought they were the same but one has 14 dots and the other has 15. It is either the same user or one or more users using both of these accounts. The same strange IP addresses from a lot of different sources.

I am more concerned with the logo. Now I know that this is someone being crafty and if it really is you Michael, and you have admitted that it was the last time then can you tell Janet how you do it or get her to email me. You seem like a nice guy and encourage people to learn and find out things and I would like to learn about this as much as everyone else.

If you are a hacker then please refrain from these pranks because you are spoiling the fun and ruining it for everyone else. It is also illegal by the way. I have backed up the forums.

If anyone has any more info on this or wants to contact me privately to admit to whats happened that would be great and I really wouldnt be intetrested in getting anyone into trouble.

Thanks

Off to talk with the team. Paranoid and wondering if anyone here is having a laugh myself LOL
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My argument is not with the clothes being available at the time but the fact that a forty yr old bloke would wear them. I've asked around a few people who's memories of the early 70's are better than mine and none think a guy of his age would wear those things. Hell he would have probably been to old to jump on the skiffle craze of the 50's. People of his generation would have worn slacks/old dress suit trousers and a collared shirt.

The point is I think this has been a wonderfully crafted hoax and I've enjoyed it. However I"m getting a little concerned at Mr Pennington's "Ghost-Guru"- like status. Anyone seen the South Park episode where the kids unmask that American medium who "reunites" people with family who have "passed over"? That vagueness is very evident in Michaeal's posts as is his concealment of facts as to protect his family and the building he "haunts". Its been an old trick of rip-off mediums for years.

I can understand that Michael superficially is providing comfort for people in attempting to prove that there is life after death. However it stops the grief process and limits people's ability to move on after the loss of a loved one. I just don't want to see a return of the early part of the twentieth century when people's whole lives were taken up in trying to get in touch with loved ones who had died. It also continues this current Western trend of sanitising death and its removal of being a fact of life and part of the cycle of life. Its ok Aunt Maud may have been run over by a lorry last week but don't worry as soon as she gets hooked-up to a lap-top we will be able to talk to her.

OK guys anyone got any e-mails recently from people you know who have died?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michael,
Please explain the Admin find about your posts being from 2 diffrent people!! i am soooo confused with it all icon_confused.gif

Claire xx
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

can anyone shed some light on this ..when michael first joined the forum he has ...............15 dots and last night he had only 14

on page 17 it says he has 10 posts on page 24 still only 10 posts
page 25 he has 7 posts ?? , icon_eek.gif
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 12:20 pm    Post subject: Posting: hobbes Reply with quote

Well said hobbes

If Michael turns out to be a medium I reckon we would all be well upset.

If I get an email from someone who has died I think I will be off seeking a career as a lumberjack and avoid the net altogether.

Must get some work done.

All the best

Get back to work everyone!!!!!

PS: Our Michael must be very trendy for his age. I did know a teacher though who wore jeans in the seventies when I was at school. Im 43 so can remember this stuff too. Im alive though hobbes. You never confirmed Spanglos comment. Please dont send me an email explaining how you died. I really dont want to know LOL
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 12:23 pm    Post subject: Upside down? Reply with quote

Hiya all

I'm not too sure - what was up-side down?

Can a ghost influence a computer? I did see a similar thing on tv ages ago about a medievil ghost that was communicating through the computer.

Has anyone had experience of this?

Spiritualist believe that you go on learning after death - is this proof of that.

all my love to everyone

Pat ----x----
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 12:27 pm    Post subject: Michael a medium Reply with quote

HIya

I hope Michael is not a medium. If he his, what is he/she doing?

Plying for trade!

If Michael is not genuine ( which I am seriously begining to think he is for real) he is a very clever writer indeed!

Love Pat
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hobbes23, i have to agree with you, The story tellers are indeed in my eyes telling us a more glamed up version of the after life. I just hope it doesnt make it to apealing to anyone who has been reading these pages. Could i just mention to you all to enable your firwalls etc if you havnt already done so.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope just checked the pulse I'm not the spirit of Bongo the clown. Well and truly breathing.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that Firewall is on !!

Badger wrote:
hobbes23, i have to agree with you, The story tellers are indeed in my eyes telling us a more glamed up version of the after life. I just hope it doesnt make it to apealing to anyone who has been reading these pages. Could i just mention to you all to enable your firwalls etc if you havnt already done so.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
"It has been a pleasure. I must now sneak away to find some quiet corner of the web with which to repeat this exercise away from the prying eyes of the media. It is time for me to become Martin Farringdon from Utah or Texas. A cowboy who died a violent death in a stampede. Or something along those lines. You get the idea. The process works. It is tried and tested. "...


...
Does this not pretty much sound like "Michael" admitting to a hoax?

-well, it does to me...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes my firewall is on .. we had 2 warnings last night from something called (wewin) and i was only on here reading ..it is probably nothing to do with me being on here ,but i dont know to much about pc's so maybe im just paranoid !!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Annthax,
I agree, he could have been lets say for the sake of it eeeerrrrr,
Mr Michael Pennington from Birmingham who died after a beating by the union canal in brum. Why change, there is no need to, its one big hoax by someone who has the know how to change forums send messages in binary etc. To be able to post from two location with differant ip addresses ( IP-Spooffing ) bla bla bla. To be able to all this is a very clever programer/s who operates not from a lap top but an advanced pc, with loads of hardwear on it, with probibly alot of softwear and maybe some little gadgets to go with it. I feel we should not feel conned about this but use it what ever way we like.
My sorces of information to which i was able to post this message are very very good indeed.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 12:58 pm    Post subject: Jeez, turn your back for a moment Reply with quote

Hello peeps,

I've been away and as a result missed all the recent logo flipping and binary bursts. Decided to stay away because of Michael's final comment from the previous posting saying he was smiling at me from my Mac. Even when its off.

Miccah. You said you captured the mail. Please post the Emails you saved. Lobeheliah Overhill you never answered my question about you seeing the whole page upside down?

Re: "saying something that does not fit in with his time of death"
Michael has made a point about his one of his fears being a "evil spirit" in "nuclear bunker" pressing launch buttons.
Isn't this just a bit past the 1971 era? Okay, Cuba etc in the sixties but I always thought the fear of nuclear annihilation to be a very 80's fear?

Also if he is who he says he is, a benevolent spirit who has amazing information for us, surely by the typing of the above nuclear annihilation scenario above he giving some spirits ideas. Michael reckons an evil spirit wouldn't do this because they'd lose their only way to communicate with the living. If I were an evil spirit who had just spent the last 30 years wandering around a nuclear bunker being ignored by the living I'd imagine I'd be pretty angry with the living. What better way to exact revenge than concentrate all my engeries into pushing one button or tripping one alarm circuit or whatever? If you haven't thought about doing it before then I'd definetly have the thought in my head now, thanks to our benevolent spirit Michael.

It still leaves the flipping logo and the edited postings. Which we haven't yet explained but could very possibly be a hacker. I urge everyone to contact the people they know to ask if its possible to alter a site with out leaving evidence of the visit. Could the logs be re-written by the hacker? Are the Admin boys having a laugh? If this was a Scooby Doo episode the BirminghamUK Website would be about to close down hence Old Mr Stingley, the Janitor, dawning a mask and going ahauntin'. And he would have got away with it, if it wasn't for us pesky kids.

Eeny, meeny, miney, mo...indeed (Can you finish that ryhme, or at least give us the next line). I'm not choosing Michael...and I don't feel I should be asked to choose.
I'd rather just watch taking on both sides of the argument before deciding if your real or not. However what you are claiming to be is quite fantastic and therefore very difficult to believe. I've seen nothing to support these claims. And I could quite easily say that I work for the Government and we're desperatley trying to trace you...who believes me.

This is the first time I've asked Michael for proof of what he claims to be, infact I've tried to remain as polite as possible. Nor have I wanted the answer to any personal questions regarding any experiences I've had. So with your permission, Michael I'd like to ask you a question, tonight, after you've posted. If I may?
Regarding your final comment to me the other night. Would you allow me?

Mooksta
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 1:01 pm    Post subject: Posting: Missing Posting Reply with quote

Help. I was about to declare my belief in the supernatural having just posted a message to find that it didnt appear. I refreshed the page and checked again. Something very creepy has happened.

Then I find I have created a new thread by mistake. Phew. Here is the message.

These message forums will be offline from 1500 hours for a short period of maintenance work. We apologise for any inconvenience caused.

This is a scheduled maintenance.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No Pat I'm not saying he is a medium but he is employing old medium techniques.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Expain what this means?

And while your at it what wa your conversation with "Janet" about?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well i supose i will have to go back to work then at 3 oclock!! icon_cry.gif
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 1:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Posting: Missing Posting Reply with quote

Hiya Admin

Sob Sob! I hope that we haven't broken your system. I imagine you have had more hits in the last week than you have had for a long time. You have such a good site I hope everyone visits the rest of it too.

I'm not too sure what HLTM is, hope you are all well. Have you had any comments about my poem yet?

See Ya

Pat-------x-------



[quote="admin"]Help. I was about to declare my belief in the supernatural having just posted a message to find that it didnt appear. I refreshed the page and checked again. Something very creepy has happened.

Then I find I have created a new thread by mistake. Phew. Here is the message.

[color=red][size=18]These message forums will be offline from 1500 hours for a short period of maintenance work. We apologise for any inconvenience caused.

This is a scheduled maintenance. [/size][/color][/quote]
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm not too sure what HLTM is, hope you are all well. ( quote pat )
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And also he has done a top notch job of putting the wind up people. Yep first rate writer.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

okay im back, any more flips of the logo?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what a crazy day icon_smile.gif icon_smile.gif icon_smile.gif
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is this the twiglet zone .??
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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is this the twiglet zone .??
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