QUESTION: When parents give the child an unreal, or perhaps real, feeling of rejection, the child feels unworthy of love and therefore establishes a pattern of self-rejection. How does one work through this, even if one sees one's parents in reality?
ANSWER: It happens naturally and by itself. The moment you understand your parents, then the sense of rejection will disappear, even if they were cruel to you. In understanding what made them cruel, you will see it as their own problem and you will, perhaps for the first time in truth and reality, know that this had nothing to do with your own unworthiness. So far you know this in your intellect, but emotionally you will feel unworthy as long as a) you feel that your parents rejected you due to your unworthiness, and b) due to this sense of unworthiness, you are unable to establish constructive patterns that will give you reason to feel secure in yourself now. These patterns constantly confirm your unworthiness. Thus you are unable to get out of them until and unless this basic understanding exists.
QUESTION: I understand, but still when a child is set in this pattern of self-rejection and has lived his life in this way, the child is twisted and distorted and loves the rejection, rather than the love. The mere fact of recognizing one's parents will not resolve this kind of conflict.
ANSWER: I am not saying that this is the only answer. There is never just one cure-all. You have learned many other aspects of this Pathwork that are of equal importance, and they all have to be experienced. If self-rejection can be cured by other insights and the change of destructive patterns into constructive ones, then so much the better. I still say that the distortion of truth must affect you, and therefore ought to be remedied. However, just for the very problem you cite, the topic is a most essential one.
QUESTION: Would you elaborate on the psychological background of the fourth commandment?
ANSWER: Yes. As usual, there are many levels of interpretation. I assume you brought this up in connection with our topic, did you not? (Yes, I also wanted to ask about the psychological background about the Seven Mortal Sins. But I assume we can't go into that now.) No, let us wait with that for some other time. For that we might need an entire lecture, and it may be a good topic indeed. We can also do it when we have a question and answer session, and you may then present each mortal sin as one question. I will go into detail about each one separately.
QUESTION; How long will it take for humanity to derive the real meaning of the Fourth Commandment? We usually have to learn for a whole lifetime in order to correct such mistakes, such distortions?
ANSWER: How long will it take for humanity to correct all the distortions of truth? Not only about this particular Commandment, but of any other divine truth that has reached mankind. Any truth can be distorted. When mankind has progressed sufficiently in its development, then this will no longer happen. In order to get to this development, the error has to be gone through and dissolved. Self-awareness has to be raised -- and then, little by little, these distortions will vanish. Often you seem to believe that the distortions have to disappear before you can develop. The truth is just the opposite. The distortions exist because of your relatively low level of awareness of reality. As such, the distortions themselves are the remedy, for without them you could not come to perceive the truth. I have said this so often, and I say it again.
QUESTION: Just a comment in connection with our friend's question of how long it will take. It happens that I have lived with children in neighborhoods where I saw delinquent parents, parents who were fallen, or drunkards, yet the children had reverence for them through their acceptance and understanding. And I have seen children from well-kept homes who were pampered, yet did not know the meaning of it.
ANSWER: Of course this is possible. An otherwise delinquent person may have a special quality for the child and give up something he needs. Also, the child may have been born free in this respect, so that organically and naturally truth is perceived in this respect. No distortion exists here. But it is also possible that such reverence is unhealthy and false. If it comes out of fear, out of guilt, and out of appeasement so as to be protected, then it has nothing to do with the real understanding we are talking about.
QUESTION: I have a question from a friend who is absent. The need for pseudo-protections originates in the creation of an image. Can this need still persist after the image has been dissolved and thereby contribute to the creation of a new image?
ANSWER: Of course this can happen. Unfortunately this is what often happens in faulty or insufficient psychological treatment. Certain levels are reached, certain patterns are dissolved, but one does not go deeper. One stops half way. Therefore, since the root remains imbedded, it may create another destructive pattern, or another image. So it is always a question of the right procedure, and that is to slowly but surely get to the level where the root is. Then this process will be stopped and prevented altogether. Only then can a constructive, realistic pattern be established. Then the love channel is open. Then there is no more need for defenses. As a result, the individual is open to life, open to living, and open to loving.
QUESTION: Could you comment on the Lord's Prayer, particularly about the word, "Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven?" Could you tell us what "on earth" and "in heaven" mean?
ANSWER: A long time ago I presented an interpretation on the Lord's Prayer, but since this was not done in the English language, and also since my friends have progressed considerably since that time, I may come back to it some time and give a whole interpretation of it on a deeper level now that your understanding is a deeper one.
QUESTION: In this connection, is it not rather significant that the in Hebrew first seven words of Genesis contain the words heaven and earth just as in the Lord's Prayer. An interpretation is given of the word heaven, Hashomayim, as being composed of the words which mean fire and water. Can you tie this together?
ANSWER: Yes. Primitive humanity always took, and still takes, everything literally. Only through development will you see the deeper meaning, which will then make much more sense to you. The symbols of fire are: the fire of life, living, loving, enthusiasm, healthy activity, spiritual endeavor, courage, convictions that one stands up for, and strength that makes life a meaningful adventure. Water represents the emotions -- the flow, the state of being, a healthy passivity. Both healthy activity, fire, and healthy passivity, water, are processes of purification. Both fire and water can be cleansing processes, and both kinds are needed for an integrated, healthy life. Both are forces in the universe which you can tap if you tune yourself into them by establishing truth in your soul. The combination of these two forces brings you into harmony with the state of being, which would mean heaven.
QUESTION: Could you talk about so-called masochism?
ANSWER: A lot of this has been discussed in all the lectures, in all our work. If the entirety of these lectures is understood and the method of the work is gone through, then you will automatically gain understanding about so-called masochism, this tendency of self-rejection. In order to recapitulate briefly, I would say that the self-rejection we discussed here, and many times before, may, in some personality structures, create a more active process of masochism. Self-rejection in itself is masochistic. But here it is a question of degree. As I have said before, if the sense of one's own unworthiness is stronger than the corresponding healthy forces, then the only pleasure derived from living is found in pain. I still do not mean physical masochism; the same may hold true on a psychic level, and may never manifest physically at all. When it does manifest physically, then it is in a very advanced state. Since this seems the only certain thing that one can rely on -- pain through rejection -- then one hugs it, one does not want to give it up. Healthy pleasure seems hopelessly unattainable. In other words, masochism is a giving up. It is a resignation to the worst, which one tries to make the best of. If the ego is too weak to prove the world wrong -- to assert the person's right to live, the person's right to love, and the person's right to have pleasure -- then masochism is the result. The world seems to deny your right to selfhood, and you give in, agreeing with the world, and making a pleasure out of the pain -- but in a wrong, unhealthy, self-defeating, and life-defeating way. Both giving in and going with the stream, as well as fighting, are healthy processes. And both can be distorted.
QUESTION: In connection with this, I have found that I have always shied away from sex. And I have discovered that it is a crime in my emotions. As I thought further, in reality sex is pleasure. So I found that pleasure is a crime. And so, all along the line I have sabotaged pleasure and joy. Now, although I see this, I know this, but I don't know what to do about it. Can you give me a hint?
ANSWER: Yes, my dear. I believe the next step will lead you to the answer as to why you have rejected pleasure. Then you will find that you reject pleasure because you reject yourself. Again I repeat that the words will never suffice. This has to be experienced in your emotions, and the continuation of this work will finally bring you this awareness. Now, why do you reject pleasure? The answer to this will derive partly from the recognitions you have already made and which you will then tie up with this, and partly from new recognitions. Your rejection of happiness, of joy, of pleasure, of life, and of love in reality is nothing but a rejection of yourself. The understanding of this factor will be found exactly in what I discussed here. Begin to investigate what kind of human beings your parents were, as well as others in your family.
QUESTION: In seeking to communicate we must resort to words, and unless we get to the meaning of them, they are lost. The word masochism is used. Along with it comes the opposite term of sadism. Modern schools of psychology prefer to use the word "algalania" to refer to both sadism and masochism, calling one positive, the other negative. How do you regard this?
ANSWER: This is perfectly true. There cannot be the one without the other. Both are one current of inflicting pain. The so-called sadistic person inflicts pain on others as a protection against the self -- a pseudo-protection of course. While at times the very same person may find it against his interest to do so. Then he may come into conflict with his surroundings; or he may find it to his disadvantage because he fears losing the person he needs whose love and protection he wants. So he will invert this force that exists in him due to unresolved negative forces. He cannot simply dispense with it at will, something has to happen with it -- either it goes out to another person, or he directs it to himself. Only the dissolution of this force will stop either the sadistic current or the masochistic current -- or both.
Match 2, 1962
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