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Photo from Willamette Week in Portland, Or.

This article is taken from the Willamette Week
in Portland, Oregon.

FOLK PREVIEW
Man of Action

Thirty years into a career that quietly influenced and shaped American music, Michael Hurley unrepentantly looks to the future.

BY RICHARD MARTIN martin@wweek.com

Michael Hurley
St. Johns Pub
8203 N Ivanhoe St., 283-8520
9 pm Friday, Nov. 13
$10 advance, $12 at the door

When Townes Van Zandt died last year, Michael Hurley suddenly stood alone as the last great unsung hero of American folk music. He hadn't managed to fly under the cultural radar completely unnoticed astute critics seized upon his few performances to laud him as a lost master of incomparable songwriting skills. But to this day, there's no tribute album, no major-label reissue program and no groundswell of popular recognition for the man also known as Doc Snock.

So who is Michael Hurley? Since recording his debut for Folkways in 1965, the twisted troubadour has released about a dozen albums of unwavering quality, sauntering through a distinctive pastiche of blues, country and folk styles and singing undiluted odes to Southern cookin', lovely ladies and animated critters.

Hurley's first West Coast tour in memory and his recent recording sessions for the forthcoming album Weatherhole beg a question about his reasons for returning to action.

"It's no return of involvement at all," Hurley says from a friend's home in Vermont, one of the many states he's resided in during his 50-plus years. "It wasn't a decision on my part. It's just that the opportunities are more open now. Maybe all my past efforts have paid off."

The compounded interest alone on Hurley's musical contributions to the Americana canon would amount to more than the modest returns he's experiencing of late. Have Moicy!, his 1976 collaboration with the Unholy Modal Rounders and Jeffrey Frederick & the Clamtones, stands as a classic and a prototype of the modern alt-country format. (The musicians first met in Portland two years earlier, during one of Hurley's two sojourns here.) Two of his mid-period solo records for Rounder, Long Journey (1976) and Snockgrass (1980)-- both of which were reissued on the folk label last year -- teemed with spirited numbers constructed from twangy guitars, colorful mandolin and banjo runs, homespun fiddle solos, barroom piano vamps and backwoods narratives.

He could do it all: settle into a relaxed sway in somber songs like "No Home" or "O My Stars"; croon like a country great in "Long Journey" and "Whiskey Willey"; stir up a laugh with "You Gonna Look Like a Monkey" or "I Heard the Voice of a Porkchop"; and express longing and tenderness in lighthearted romps like "Portland Water" and "Tia Marie." Besides singing and playing guitar, piano, fiddle and banjo, Hurley also painted watercolors that served as album covers, with cartoon creatures sprung directly from his lyrics.

More remarkable still, his talents never faded. Hurley's 1994 album Wolfways (released in the United States on Koch in 1996) seamlessly posited rerecorded versions of cult favorites like "Portland Water" and "Werewolf" alongside new material. His latest album, due out early next year on an upstart New York label called Field Recordings, beckons with promise. Hurley recorded Weatherhole in Virginia and Brooklyn, with help from ex-Holy Modal Rounder and Golden Delicious bassist David Reisch; Sparklehorse's Paul Watson; ex-Cracker drummer Johnny Hott; sometime Dylan mandolin and pedal steel player David Mansfield; and Kevin Maul, the pedal steel player from the folk duo Robin and Linda Williams.

Perhaps with the forthcoming release, Hurley will merit the type of hoopla bestowed upon other forgotten masters like John Prine and John Fahey in recent years. He's certainly poised; a newer generation musicians like Lucinda Williams and Vic Chesnutt have praised Hurley of late, and Son Volt tapped him as an opener for some Midwest dates a few years back.

But Hurley maintains that he's unaware of any influence he's had on the thriving alt-country movement and jokes that any newfound acclaim may be detrimental.

"I always believed in my music, and a few friends encouraged me," he says. "When the Rounder records were reissued [in early '97], they made no splash. Now, almost 20 years after they were originally released, they are. Sometimes the time is right, or something may have been ahead of its time."

As for his new record, Hurley says, "The times may be catching up with me. I think my music is pretty much the same. Maybe if I'm recognized now, it also means that I'm finished. Washed up."

Whatever happens, he'll maintain a copyright on what he long ago dubbed "Snockgrass," that is, the type of bluegrass played by his alter ego, Doc Snock. "I play my bluegrass with a stomp, you see," he explains. "Snockgrass just means that it would be bluegrass, but Snock got a hold of it."

Ever pioneering and with his offbeat humor resolutely intact, Hurley insists that his recent activities are in no way meant to instigate a career-wide appraisal. Asked what type of reaction he'd like from West Coast audiences, he launches into a good-natured monologue.

"I'm playing for the nice night-life type," he says, slyly quoting his 1980 song "Midnight Rounder." "If you're with your girl and you feel romantic, maybe you wanna drink some wine and light a candle, I wanna appeal to you. I'll play your requests. I'm not playing for the museum crowd that just wants to make an anthropological report on the sociological impact of Doc Snock. It's for the action crowd."

Willamette Week | originally published November 11, 1998


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By Peter Margasak
June 21, 1996
Folk Heart

MICHAEL HURLEY

"1963 was the last time a great car was built in America & these Belvederes have it & they have it all." So reads part of outsider folkster Michael Hurley's most recent newsletter, in which he's hawking a couple of Plymouths for $400 each. If it seems like a strange item to find in a musician's newsletter, well, Michael Hurley is a strange guy.

The 56-year-old troubadour is one of America's most distinctive if invisible fonts of folk--of his nine records only a pair are currently in-print--but he also paints and "fools around with old electronic stuff." Although he's spent significant stretches of time living in Vermont and Virginia, Hurley's a modern-day hobo, stopping for short spells in Mexico, Oregon, Kentucky, Texas, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and New Orleans, among other locales.

In 1964--prior to spending six months in a New York hospital with tuberculosis and a threatening liver condition--he recorded an album for the legendary Folkways label. For the next 15 years he sporadically teamed up with Peter Stampfel, the loopy mind behind the Holy Modal Rounders. In the early 70s he recorded a couple of albums for a Warner Brothers subsidiary run by Jesse Colin Young of the Youngbloods, but Hurley made his mark on a 1976 collaboration with the Rounders called Have Moicy!, a bona fide modern folk classic that revealed a thorough knowledge and appreciation of folk roots while stressing a healthy irreverence for the scene's increasing rigidity and seriousness.

Hurley never aimed to be a professional musician. "I didn't think it was a practical way to make a living," he says. "I always wanted some quick money more than I wanted some stupid fly-by-night gig in a coffee shop." But by the mid-80s his fortunes changed, if ever so subtly. "I framed up a bunch of my paintings and took them down to a gig I had at Folk City, and I hung up 11 of them onstage. I sold 7. That was the beginning of the end for me doing other jobs--selling Christmas trees, house painting, working at a barbecue stand."

While Hurley's been able to support himself through his music and paintings--mostly wild, cartoonish renderings of folkies like Hurley as wolves--he's anything but a household name. A few years ago he was approached by the German label Veracity, and the fruit of their negotiations was last year's Wolf Ways, a collection of rerecorded Hurley favorites intended to introduce him to the German marketplace. The album was subsequently licensed to Koch in the U.S. "I've concluded that I needed to be introduced in my own nation as well," Hurley says dryly.

"I could give up performing and just paint if I wanted to, but I guess I like performing. It's something I have to do every so often." His homespun gigs are legendary. Never using a set list, the often crotchety Hurley rambles through a performance guided only by his own idiosyncratic impulses. At a Chicago gig a few years back he pounded out barrelhouse versions of numerous pop standards and boogie-woogie classics on a nearby piano, but for the most part he sticks to playing his own songs on guitar, banjo, and fiddle.

Hurley's music is a delirious blend of old-timey country, early blues, and classic pop melodies. Performed and sung with back-porch casualness, his tunes, when you can penetrate their oddball poesy, are actually simple, though poignant. His classic "Werewolf" is a lycanthropic parable of human lust. "I Paint a Design" offers a personal monologue--"I paint a white horse or a fire-breathing dragon / I paint a design on your wagon"--while "Somebody to Say Bye Bye To" provides an aching meditation on loneliness.

In addition to his musical and artistic proclivities, Hurley is a natural tinkerer. "I'm one of the best eight-track tape repairmen in Richmond," he says with little irony. "There's another guy there named Pop with a big bushy white beard. We had a conversation about some of our tricks. Pop said, 'When they're really bad and you have to throw all the tape off the reel, the best thing to do is walk around your yard a couple of times and just lay the tape in the grass as you walk around so it won't get all tangled up, and then it's easy to rewind.' I tried it once but there was a high wind and the tape balled up like a plate of spaghetti."

At this year's South by Southwest conference Hurley played with Giant Sand and formed a bond with the group's offshoot, Friends of Dean Martinez, who are backing Hurley on his next Koch release. He tours Ireland in July, and Veracity wants him to tour again in Germany this fall, but Hurley's not so sure. "I don't get time to do my own projects anymore," he complains. "My van needs its engine overhauled, and I have a 1944 Chevrolet that needs to be fixed up. The summer months are my busiest time for music, but it's also the best time to work on cars."


Snock Fan-zine info

Here's the skinny on 'Blue Navigator'. a Snock Fanzine from Ireland

Subject: snock & the boyds
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 18:08:08 +0100 (BST)
From: Public Comunications Centre (pcc@iol.ie)
To: barndance@geocities.com

I produce 'Blue Navigator', the world's only fanzine devoted to documenting
the world of snock. It's "one hell of a 'zine", according to Peter
Stampfel. Printed in limited editions. Not many copies left of Issues 1 and 2.

Issue one (40 pages) has articles/live reviews/album reviews from '64 to
'84 plus photographs; a fully illustrated discography which includes most
Bellemeade Phonics cassette releases; a doc snock comic strip; plus some
other stuff.

Issue two (48 pages) has 16 pages devoted to Have Moicy! 20th Anniversary
with interviews of many involved (Peter Stampfel, Michael Hurley, Dave
Reisch, Bill Nowlin and - the last known interview before his death - the
late, great Jeffrey Frederick). 17 pages on Hurley's two German tours -
with translations of interviews, reviews, articles. A review of his
Veracity vinyl LP 'Parsnip Snips'. Reports on the Holy Modal Rounders
Re-union in New York last summer. Plus some other stuff.

Issue Three (available from April 21st) (48 pages) has 20 pages devoted to
the late Jeffrey Frederick - stories and tributes from his friends -
contributers include; Teddy Deane, Dave Reisch, Curtis Chamberlain, Chris
Lindsay, Michael Hurley, Kathryn Frederick - with rare photographs. 15
pages on Michael Hurley July '96 Irish Tour - reviews, photos etc. Tribute
to Townes Van Zandt, includes Hurley/Van Zandt conversation from '94 German
tour. And more of that other stuff.

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Other Snock Links

Have Moicy page at Rounder Records.
All Music Guide for Michael Hurley.


Michael Hurley performed at the
Capital City Barn Dance


on April 18, 1997 and at the Oct. 10, 1997 shows at the Floodzone.
As well as sitting in with a bunch of other performers from time to time!


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