Orgy barrels into the future with their dark and melodic "death pop" in this week's News Feature.
Orgy might be new to you, but they're hardly new.
Sure, the band's first live gigs ever came just last year on the Family Values tour, and sure the band's first video recently landed in MTV's buzz bin, but the men of Orgy are not new to the music biz. The members of Orgy have been plying their trade for years behind the scenes, co-writing songs with Korn and producing albums for the likes of Coal Chamber (who recorded "Amir of the Desert" for Orgy guitarist Amir Derakh).
What is new is the group's unique music hybrid, fusing the drive of metal with the sleek, futuristic flourishes of new wave and techno-dance. The band's debut album, "Candyass" (the first release from Korn's Elementree Records), prompted one critic to call them "Duran Duran on an acid trip," and their live show prompted another to call them "the Cure on coke."
MTV News' Robert Mancini recently caught up with frontman Jay Gordon and guitarists Ryan Shuck and Derakh to found out what else is new with Orgy. What he found were declarations of love for their future tourmates Love And Rockets, tales of dressing room rampages with past tourmates Rammstein, and why all along they knew that Orgy would be a good idea. You can peruse those thoughts, and many more, right here in our MTV News Online feature, which also features a RealVideo package that captures the sights and sounds of Orgy.
Enjoy...
MTV: So is the Love And Rockets tour happening?
Jay Gordon (frontman): Yes.
Amir Derakh (guitars): Yes, it's confirmed for March.
Jay: Very, very, very much looking forward to being on tour with Love And Rockets and think it's gonna be a good thing. What do you think?
Ryan Shuck (guitars): Yeah, definitely. God, that's like a band that we all grew up with and, you know, and is responsible for probably a lot of the way we think and view music and everything. So it's gonna be an honor and a pleasure, you know.
MTV: So how do you imagine that tour differing from the Family Values Tour?
Amir: It's gonna be a lot different.
Jay: It's gonna be a lot different because, I mean, it's smaller venues and whatnot. And it's not like, you know, like, Jonathan (Davis, Korn vocalist) and Munky (Korn guitarist), and Fieldy (Korn bassist) and those guys are like, you know, and Fred (Durst) from Limp and those guys are like, those are like your next door neighbors, like your friends, your buddies, you know? And you know... we know who Daniel Ash is, but he has no idea who we are. You know what I mean?
Amir: Well, we didn't know Rammstein.
Jay: We didn't know Rammstein either. We got along with them. We destroyed quite a few dressing rooms, actually, together so... (laughs)
Ryan: I think we'll, it'll still be the same Orgy on tour, but...
Jay: We're gonna have a good time, either way, you know. We're going out to have fun and, you know, destroy your town.
Ryan: I think it will be funner to play more small places too. You know, playing big places is fun, but I think smaller places will be really cool too, you know, it's a different vibe.
MTV: I imagine it will be a very different crowd too, maybe on that's more in tune with what you guys are doing musically. How do you guys think you were received on the Family Values Tour?
Jay: I think, uh, overall it was, it was a success, you know. There were some areas that were just not ready for us yet, but I think even there, we gained a lot of fans. By the end of the show people were like, you know, "Cool man."
Amir: That was cool, people were really, like, respectful. They were there to check it out. I mean, our record had just come out so nobody really knew what to expect, so they were really just watching us and they would get into it. You could feel them kinda warm up as the set went along. By the end of the set we could generally feel them coming with us or they just were, you know, maybe didn't get it at that point.
Jay: And I think Korn fans are generally... I think that they're one of the more open, you know, fan bases, so to speak, and thank God. You know what I mean? It's just that, you know, you're going on tour with like two of the largest rock bands, in Korn and Limp's case, around right now. Like, those are like the two biggest bands out there, and thank God that they're friends of ours. (laughs) So, they pulled us on this tour, you know, and we didn't know what to expect, and it came out really good. In the long run, it was cool.
MTV: I've read that in describing your music, you seem to keep coming back to the phrase "death pop."
Jay: Yeah, that one doesn't bother me so much. "Death pop" is kinda like, you know, that's cool. That's something I came up with in the shower one day, like, "Oh, yeah, you know, death pop." I don't know...
Amir: We're dark and melodic, so it kind of fit.
Jay: Yeah, you have those tendencies to... It just seemed like an easy thing to say at the time.
MTV: In reading about you guys, I keep coming across the verb "conceptualized" in reference to your origin. What does that mean in terms of how you guys got together?
Jay: He (gestures to Amir) was doing a record, you know, out and away in Canada, I think. Was it Canada? (Amir nods) And, uh, I had put together the Orgy thing with Ryan, and we were just thinking of ideas. I didn't want to be like another... every band that comes out is like, sounds like Korn and whatnot, so I definitely wanted to do something different. I ran it by him (gestures to Ryan) to see what he thought of it, and I kind of played him some of my ideas that I was thinking of doing, you know, and he seemed to be really into that, you know what I mean? It was like his chance to, you know, kinda go for it too in a different light so to speak. So, we got together and talked a lot about all the things we were just talking about, you know, the aesthetics, the visual stuff and how we wanted the band to come off live and what our sounds should sound like and, you know?
Ryan: Yeah, yeah, I totally jumped at the opportunity to be with someone one as like-minded as Jay and as the rest of the band is.
Jay: Right, so then it was like, just putting together the other like-minded individuals, and we thought of Amir and we were like, "We gotta call Amir because he'll definitely be into this."
Amir: And I was like, "I don't wanna play guitar anymore," remember?
Jay: I was like, "That's fine with me, just figure out something to do on that thing, you know? If you don't want it to sound like a guitar, that's fine with me." So, that's another thing about Orgy, is we don't want our guitars to sound like guitars because, I mean you can only play the same E chord or same A chord, F sharp. You know what I mean? You can only play that so many different ways before you're just like, "Ok, enough already, you know, I'm done." So, I don't know. We try to make them sound like weird machines and grimy sounding tonal colored things.
Ryan: The same with drums, and with his voice... it's all new.