Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:40 1997
From: Neil <N.Brown@lboro.ac.uk>
Subject: well thats me for the day

may your groins be smeared with lucozade


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:40 1997
From: Neil <N.Brown@lboro.ac.uk>
Subject: Message from The Mark

Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 09:54:43 +0100 () From: M Hibbett Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 09:54:43 +0100 () From: M Hibbett To: Neil <N.Brown@lboro.ac.uk> Subject: In the Melody To: Neil <N.Brown@lboro.ac.uk> Subject: In the Melody Maker!!!!

Noing! Buy the Melody Maker!!!!

In their Indie Singles Tiny Section, it describes "Work is a 4 Letter Word" as both "find of the week" and "poptastic." Everett True goes on to say that John Sims are like Arab Strap with a girl singing, and that "Mark Hibbett sings sweetly about the joys of working 9-5."

SINGS SWEETLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm so excited i can barely type!

I love everett true and always have. he is my favourite journalist.

Did you get the Mercury on monday, btw? Did it say owt about abbey Park?

Noing! Everett True spelt my name RIGHT! I LOVE HIM!!!

Home tomorrow! Zing! and also NOING!


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:40 1997
From: Paul_Clarke@ipc.co.uk
Subject: Re[2]: Ta Ta

Last night ruled... not sure what I did, but it involved eating mushy peas with my fingers on the way home... ON THE BUS! ON MY OWN!

Had a luffly lunch yesterday, herb baked vegetables with a garlic crust or something, with roast potatoes and sweetcorn... and for tea it was my own special recipe Pasta n Sauce with extra herbs.

Yummy yummy yummy I got love in my tummy


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:40 1997
From: Nigel Turner <nigelt@uk.uu.net>
Subject: RE: Re[2]: Ta Ta

Pauly wrote:

>Had a luffly lunch yesterday, herb baked vegetables with a garlic crust or >something, with roast potatoes and sweetcorn... and for tea it was my own >special recipe Pasta n Sauce with extra herbs.

We're talking HERBS, right?


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:40 1997
From: Neil <N.Brown@lboro.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: Re[2]: Ta Ta

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re: mondays emailings::

>> > Fine until you starting having a go at me again. >

>>Thought you'd be glad of the attention!

>>I SEE! just realised why aforementioned recipie had a twist to it. you >>were using HERBS rather than herbs.

Ha ha! I just scared the shit out of Mike the Christian.

'whats that then Neil?'

'I'm typing my THESIS'

'so you've started it already?'

'YEP'

'oh'

Mike runs out the room to have a chat with GOD. 'ere GOD - any chance of STOPPING TIME for 6 months?'

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!

My nose is bunged up - too much pollution and pollen in the air. I finally found my watch this morning, and the batterys gone flat. how much are watch batteries these days??

LUNCH!!

Flapjack (already eaten) 45p
Cheese and pickle long roll (1.30) with STRONG cheese. You have to know karate to take on cheese like this.

Shit! wheres the cheese gone? Oh it's ok - it just popped out to mug an old lady. Back now. Cool! She just cashed her pension!

and 15 gallons of lime juice cordial which will mysteriously dissappear without needing to go for a pee.


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:40 1997
From: Jo McGowan <onlntmp1@uk.uu.net>
Subject: RE: Re[2]: Ta Ta

Pauly wrote:

>Had a luffly lunch yesterday, herb baked vegetables with a garlic crust = or=20
>something, with roast potatoes and sweetcorn... and for tea it was my = own=20
>special recipe Pasta n Sauce with extra herbs.

Nigel wondered:
>We're talking HERBS, right?

I had a loverly tea last night, although it was a bit late.=20 I cooked pasta with swiftly constructed tomato, onion and courgette = sauce seasoned with completely innocent herbs like basil topped with = swedish meatballs stuffed with COCAINE.

except for the cocaine bit, it's all true,and my mum had left some mmmmm = rhubarb fool in the freezer. very nice too ta.

I got woken up by the thunderstorm at 4.30am this morning and realised = that my bedroom windows were wide open and my bed was now floating two = inches of the ground. I'd left my washing out on the line and the car = window open.
And I had to go out into the pitch black to find the cat who was hiding = under the car and wasn't very happy.

Jo


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:40 1997
From: Jo McGowan <onlntmp1@uk.uu.net>
Subject: RE: Ta Ta

>> I had a loverly tea last night, although it was a bit late. >> I cooked pasta with swiftly constructed tomato, onion and courgette = >>sauce seasoned with completely innocent herbs like basil topped with = >>swedish meatballs stuffed with COCAINE.

>since when has basil been INNOCENT? Basil is the raper and pillager of >herbs.

Basil is well weedy compared to the likes of DILL or THYME, Rosemary and Marjoram are not to be trusted either.

>whats rhubarb fool? don't you think it's odd how you say roo-barb and >not ra-hoo-barb?

who are you calling fool?
it's a lovely puddingy type thing - little bit yoghurty, little bit = moussy,
you get tons of stewed rudebob and mix it with custard and cream and = sugar and then stick it in the fridge until it sets and then eat it all = up yum yum yum.


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:40 1997
From: Paul_Clarke@ipc.co.uk
Subject: Re[4]: Ta Ta

     We're talking HERBS... clearly Nigey Nige you are no Joey like Neil
     is... how can anyone mistake HERBS for herbs...

     From now on I'll say MICHAELANGELO instead.

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Subject: RE: Re[2]: Ta Ta
Author: Nigel Turner <nigelt@uk.uu.net> at internet Date: 13/08/97 11:05

Pauly wrote:

>Had a luffly lunch yesterday, herb baked vegetables with a garlic crust or >something, with roast potatoes and sweetcorn... and for tea it was my own >special recipe Pasta n Sauce with extra herbs.

We're talking HERBS, right?


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:40 1997
From: Jo McGowan <onlntmp1@uk.uu.net>
Subject: RE: Re[4]: Ta Ta

look this is the reply with matt in -=20 leave him out pauly!!!!!!


Jo McGowan - Marketing Assistant

UUNET Consulting
332 Science Park =20
Cambridge
CB4 4BZ

T:01223 250949 - F:01223 250132 - E:onlntmp1@uk.uu.net



From: Paul_Clarke@ipc.co.uk[SMTP:Paul_Clarke@ipc.co.uk] From: Paul_Clarke@ipc.co.uk[SMTP:Paul_Clarke@ipc.co.uk] Sent: 13 August 1997 15:48
To: Gary Hawes; Nic Pillinger
Cc: MB Moore; Neil; Nigel Turner; 'Jo McGowan'; pkn@cs.nott.ac.uk; = sean.price@service.britgas.co.uk; lunch@kosso.com; = 'Adrian_Harris@Sonymusic.Com'; 'Gary Gilchrist +44 116 2561561 ext 4295' Subject: Re[4]: Ta Ta
Subject: Re[4]: Ta Ta

We're talking HERBS... clearly Nigey Nige you are no Joey like Neil =

is... how can anyone mistake HERBS for herbs... =20
From now on I'll say MICHAELANGELO instead.

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Subject: RE: Re[2]: Ta Ta
Subject: RE: Re[2]: Ta Ta
Author: Nigel Turner <nigelt@uk.uu.net> at internet Date: 13/08/97 11:05=20

=20
Pauly wrote:
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>Had a luffly lunch yesterday, herb baked vegetables with a garlic crust = or=20
>something, with roast potatoes and sweetcorn... and for tea it was my = own=20
>special recipe Pasta n Sauce with extra herbs. =20
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We're talking HERBS, right?
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Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:40 1997
From: Neil <N.Brown@lboro.ac.uk>
Subject: CATS

Fucking useless animals. One good thing about cats. Flat ribs. Easy to get the meat off.


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:40 1997
From: MB Moore <M.B.Moore-96@student.lut.ac.uk> Subject: Re: CATS

> Fucking useless animals. One good thing about cats. Flat ribs. Easy to > get the meat off.

Cats only taste nice if you stuff them with 'natural' herbs such as opium, lysergic acid, or oregano.

STOP SENDING ME MESSAGES!!!!!!

I am NO LONGER on the lunch list.
Or is there some omerta-style deal that I can only leave if I die.

I am: M.B.Moore-96@student.lboro.ac.uk

Please, please, leave me ALONE!!!!

yours stressfully,
Matt


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:41 1997
From: Neil <N.Brown@lboro.ac.uk>
Subject: remove MATT!

>Or is there some omerta-style deal that I can only leave if I die. >
>I am: M.B.Moore-96@student.lboro.ac.uk >
>Please, please, leave me ALONE!!!!
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>Matt
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what spastic hasnt taken matt off thier list? do it now you retarded mong smelling of gin and furniture polish and living in an old lorry container made of wool.


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:41 1997
From: Nigel Turner <nigelt@uk.uu.net>
Subject: RE: remove MATT!

Neil wrote:

>what spastic hasnt taken matt off thier list? do it now you retarded mong >smelling of gin and furniture polish and living in an old lorry container >made of wool.

It was YOU, Neil


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:41 1997
From: Neil <N.Brown@lboro.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: remove MATT!

>Neil wrote:
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I took matt off all my lists yesterday you spastic. some other cunt must have posted an old list with his name on it since then. i canrt be bothered checking through all my lists every day just because some fucking sod cant be fucking well bothered to take matts name off when he asks them to. My message that got to matt was a group reply to one that came this morning so dont fucking well blame me. I took his name off wjhen he asked me to. YESTERDAY. Any list I reply to ought to be clean.

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Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:41 1997
From: Neil <N.Brown@lboro.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: remove MATT!

to be honest am not bothered - i dont think wiping off a few emails from time to time makes you fail an MA. all that swearing and crossness on that last one was a wind up.

HA HA HA HA!

. personally i think ppl should stay on for life.

repeat the question::: how much are watch batteries? anyone know??

am off to search for some later.


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:41 1997
From: Neil <N.Brown@lboro.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: remove MATT!

>Oh... I see. One rule for you, Neil, different rule for everyone else. >
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No, if thats your reply then clearly you dont even remotely see at all. Whe matt posted a take me off message yesterday I naturally assumed everyone would take his email off thier lists. I took him off mine. This is why I didnt check today that I wasnt posting to him. Because I thought by now ppl might finally get the point and take ppl off when they get the message asking them to. Like yesterday.

OK hand on heart I cocked up this mornign when I replied to a list that turned out to have Matt on it. Maybe I should have checked it. Do you check through the list everytime you do a group reply?

I think it's easier just to take someones name off as and when they ask us to.

My message this morning was a reply to Jo. I dont know who Jo was replying to when she did hers, but that was an old list. there are at least 3 others going about. Some with Alan on and he asked to come off the list weeks ago!

Theres a lot of old lists still flying about. Its not a problem really. I do get a hell of a lot of 'take me off the list' messages directed at me, and it's not really that much of a bother. It pisses me off somewhat when I get angry messages from peopel asking ME to take them off a list I have no control over, yet I'm the one thas made to feel guilty when thier email gets fucked up.

I dont want to have to scrutinise lists everytime I post a message, and neither does anyone else. All we have to do is take someones name off when they ask us to.

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Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:41 1997
From: Nigel Turner <nigelt@uk.uu.net>
Subject: RE: remove MATT!

>I took matt off all my lists yesterday you spastic. some other cunt must >have posted an old list with his name on it since then. i canrt be >bothered checking through all my lists every day just because some fucking >sod cant be fucking well bothered to take matts name off when he asks them >to. My message that got to matt was a group reply to one that came this >morning so dont fucking well blame me. I took his name off wjhen he asked >me to. YESTERDAY. Any list I reply to ought to be clean.

Oh... I see. One rule for you, Neil, different rule for everyone else.

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Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:41 1997
From: Nigel Turner <nigelt@uk.uu.net>
Subject: RE: remove MATT!

NO!! You are missing the point here Neil. Because there is no single = list, you cannot assume that Matt's name has been removed from every = list. It's very easy to respond to an old list. The person who's mail = you were responding to (Jo?) was no more and no less responsible for = checking that Matt's name had been removed than you were. We all share = the responsibility here. You cannot say "well, I removed his name from = MY list, so it's not MY fault", because there is no "MY" list, or = anybody's list. NOBODY owns a list. If you felt no responsibility for = checking the list to which you replied, then why should the person who = posted that message before you be any more responsible? Unless we have = a centrally administered list, then the responsibility lies with the = person posting the message to remove any reluctant recipients. And Matt = received YOUR posting about eating cat flesh. And notice how I never = called anyone a cunt once.

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Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:41 1997
From: Gary Hawes <Gary.Hawes@brunel.ac.uk> Subject: DRUGS!

I posted this on uk-indie, but thought I'd copy it here. Anyone else watch that very frustrating 'debate' last night?

RANT ALERT!!!
Anyone watch that 'You Decide' debate last night? Jaysus, aren't some people pious, conceited, self-righteous, ignorant, out-of-touch, hypocritical bits of boring toss? There *is* NO perfect solution to the drug 'problem' (although I have no problems with them, ta), BUT PROHIBITION IS NOT working!!!! It's just criminalising hundreds of thousands of otherwise law-abiding citizens and placing control of drug supply and quality into the hands of criminals, just like the situation with alcohol in the US in the 1930s, one of the darkest and most gratuitously violent periods of
American history. Surely noone is so out of touch to seriously believe that the majority of drug users in this country are pallid, emaciated crime-happy
wasters squatting in disused flats on council estates in need of serious rehabilitation?
I've said this before and I'll say it again, BY FAR AND AWAY the worst drugs healthwise and socially are Alcohol and Tobacco. Both legal, both liberally and unconscionably advertised in the media, both highly addictive and both responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths and wrecked lives each year. However, getting drunk out of your skull is lauded and applauded in this country. Yet simply proposing a sensible discussion about drug use and possible alternatives to the failed prohibitive measures is "sending out the wrong message"??????????? What the fuck?! People are fucking INSANE!

Well, sooner or later something is going to have to be done. In the meantime, I'll continue to exercise my PREROGATIVE as a free-thinking individual to take into my body whatever substance i bloody well choose thank you very much. Drugs are NOT bad or evil. Drug ABUSE is bad and evil. We should be spending money educating and informing people about sensible drug use and combatting this instead of hopelessly attempting to stamp out the demand for drugs which has existed since time immemorial and will continue to do so. Some bloke made the point last night that prohibition is an American thing (my, my, my don't all the best things come from America?) which was introduced in this country in the 1920s. Before then in Victorian times, drug use was prevalent and acceptable (Queen Victoria took cannabis for her period pains for
fuck's sake!) The vast majority of fellow recreational drug users I know are educated, responsible users with social consciences. Society and interferring
do-gooders can go fuck themselves as far as I am concerned.

And then if that wasn't enough I turn over to Channel 4's nightwatch to see Mr Threechinnedmoralfascist from the Daily Express
blubbering on and pontificating about "moral decline" and "reestabslishing the moral backbone of this country." Oh yes mate, of course the Daily Express is contributing most effectively to this isn't it?! Any more pictures or four page spreads featuring Di in the buff? I wouldn't even wrap my chips in your rag, mate. Most unbelievable statement (and he ACTUALLY said this in response to the question of whether he thought drug abuse compared to alcohol abuse!) "Yes but people don't drink to get smashed" (!?) Yes, I laughed as well.
PHEW! IT'S GONE NOW.....RANT OVER!

Sorry, but I got very pissed off at people's idiocy and short-sightedness last night. Being able to think for yourself is such an important thing. Dogma is *evil*.

Um, right yes, well! Congrats to Mark and Neil for their mentions in the MM, which incidentally has one of those heinous spice girls (um i think it's which-one-is-she spice. Or is it getting-podgy-old-slapper-spice?
Pauly, you've got their pictures all over your wall. Help us out...) on the cover this week. Doing that badly, eh?

Cool, I thought it was over as far as album releases for the rest of the year go, but we still have PORTISHEAD, MASSIVE ATTACK and THE VERVE to come. Honestly Richard, what do you mean the drugs don't work? Sort your dealer out maaaaan, for crissakes! You see with a coffee
shop system, this wouldn't be a problem.......

Gary


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:41 1997
From: Gary Hawes <Gary.Hawes@brunel.ac.uk> Subject: RE: remove MATT!

At 13:46 13/08/97 +0100, Neil wrote:
>well thats where youre wrong because i deleted my entire inbox yesterday >night apart from 2 messages from Pauly

A-ha! Secret love liasions, I bet. Do you have a special folder set up called 'Pauly - Love Letters'? I thought I caught you two looking at each other a bit too long on Saturday. And you were both dancing very provocatively during the Village People's 'YMCA'.......

>You are an absolutely perfect angel who has never ever done a bad thing. >Anyway. Matt's off the list now.

Do some angels do bad things then? Oh yeah, I suppose SATAN did which is why he was banished from heaven, apparently. Here's a thought: what if SATAN (ie the naughty angel) had of been called something like WILLOWBLOSSOM or something? It just wouldn't have worked would it? I mean, BE GONE WILLOWBLOSSOM AND ALL YOUR FOWL DEMONS OF HADES!! just doesn't have the same ring, does it?

Buddha on a mountain bike, it's hot and stuffy in here.....

Gary


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:41 1997
From: Neil <N.Brown@lboro.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: remove MATT!

>NO!! You are missing the point here Neil. Because there is no single >list, you cannot assume that Matt's name has been removed from every >list. It's very easy to respond to an old list. The person who's mail >you were responding to (Jo?) was no more and no less responsible for >checking that Matt's name had been removed than you were. We all share >the responsibility here.

which is why we should all delete someones name when we are asked to rather than a day or two later. then we wont get any accidental extra postings to the person who wanted to be taken off. agreed?

You cannot say "well, I removed his name from >MY list, so it's not MY fault", because there is no "MY" list, or >anybody's list. NOBODY owns a list.

Granted. when I mean MY lists I mean the lists that are sitting in my inbox. I appreciate that no one owns a list.

If you felt no responsibility for
>checking the list to which you replied,

Oh for goodness sake BECAUSE I DID SOMETHING ABOUT IT YESTERDAY WHEN I WAS ASKED TO

then why should the person who
>posted that message before you be any more responsible?

well thats where youre wrong because i deleted my entire inbox yesterday night apart from 2 messages from Pauly adn 2 from mark and 1 from my boss, none of which cc'd MAtt.

Unless we have a
>centrally administered list, then the responsibility lies with the person >posting the message to remove any reluctant recipients.

Look - I'm getting loads of messages from people who think I'm a listserv. I'm being made to feel responsible when ppls emails get trashed. Pleas read my postings rather than just ramming the same point home.

And Matt
>received YOUR posting about eating cat flesh. And notice how I never >called anyone a cunt once.
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You are an absolutely perfect angel who has never ever done a bad thing. Anyway. Matt's off the list now.


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:41 1997
From: Jo McGowan <onlntmp1@uk.uu.net>
Subject: RE: remove MATT!

>Do some angels do bad things then? Oh yeah, I suppose SATAN did >which is why he was banished from heaven, apparently. >Here's a thought: what if SATAN (ie the naughty angel) had of been >called something like WILLOWBLOSSOM or something? It just wouldn't >have worked would it? I mean, BE GONE WILLOWBLOSSOM AND ALL >YOUR FOWL DEMONS OF HADES!! just doesn't have the same ring, >does it?

And the Prodigy song would have sounded very silly.

(has a moment of doubt and wonders if it wasn't the Chemical Brothers after all???)


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:41 1997
From: Neil <N.Brown@lboro.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: remove MATT!

>At 13:46 13/08/97 +0100, Neil wrote:
>>well thats where youre wrong because i deleted my entire inbox yesterday >>night apart from 2 messages from Pauly >
>A-ha! Secret love liasions, I bet. Do you have a special folder >set up called 'Pauly - Love Letters'? I thought I caught you two >looking at each other a bit too long on Saturday. And you were both >dancing very provocatively during the Village People's 'YMCA'.......

Cool. They think I fancy Pauly. Looks like we've managed to put them off the scent. Nigel, Lets have another heated debate and it ought to stop all the rumours circulating about us!

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>>You are an absolutely perfect angel who has never ever done a bad thing. >>Anyway. Matt's off the list now.
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>Do some angels do bad things then?

Angel tube was crap after it's refit. it lost all the atmosphere.

Oh yeah, I suppose SATAN did
>which is why he was banished from heaven, apparently. >Here's a thought: what if SATAN (ie the naughty angel) had of been >called something like WILLOWBLOSSOM or something? It just wouldn't >have worked would it? I mean, BE GONE WILLOWBLOSSOM AND ALL >YOUR FOWL DEMONS OF HADES!! just doesn't have the same ring, does it? >
>Buddha on a mountain bike, it's hot and stuffy in here..... >
>Gary
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Off now to help James move house in the hot wet rain. Who wants to help me?


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:41 1997
From: Neil <N.Brown@lboro.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: remove MATT!

On Wed, 13 Aug 1997, Nic Pillinger wrote:

>Jo McGowan wrote:
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>> (has a moment of doubt and wonders if it wasn't the Chemical Brothers after all???) >
>has a moment of clarity and realises it was in fact Orbital >
>hey ho - it's hot here - wheres all that RAIN you promised us Neil?

er. theres been a slight technical hitch. The rain machine has decided by the looks of things to dump all of its contents on Loughborough and Leicester. Sorry kiddo!

The thunder tape sounds very convincing.

>Couldn't you bung it in the back of yer car and drive it down here? >Please?
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It is hot wet rain. It seems merely to make things hot and wet rather than hot and dry.

You want vanilla flavour or strawberry?


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:41 1997
From: Neil <N.Brown@lboro.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: remove MATT!

On Wed, 13 Aug 1997, Nigel Turner wrote:

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>>Cool. They think I fancy Pauly. Looks like we've managed to put them off >>the scent. Nigel, Lets have another heated debate and it ought to stop >all >the rumours circulating about us! >
>It's no use, Neil......I love you, and I want the whole world to know. >Pauly.... he's mine, so hands off.
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>That's very true. It used to be GRAYT standing there on that narrow old >platform, trains rushing past on both sides, as you tried to take down >two sets of numbers at once. Now it's just another soulless, modern pile >of doggy do's.

I liked it because no matter how you try not to, you always take a step back slightly when a train comes in. Now with a platform only 12 feet wide nd another dirty big train thundering in from behind it was nice and scary.

Camden Town Tube I was in once (does it still smell of fried onions?) and I was on mushrooms. The platform became 2 feet wide and about a mile long and I could see the electricity running down the tracks.

Funny how camden town tube always smells of fried onions. I remember it before it got flourescent light. Those filament lamps were pretty innefective. It really felt like you were going into the bowels of the earth on the escalator.

Anyone else remember those nice red trains which were all varnished wood inside? Made in Derby I think, the last ones ran on the Bakerloo line till about 1984. I'm not being trainspotty - it's Green Transport. Honest. Nah. I admit it. I like trains. trains are cuddly.

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Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:41 1997
From: Jo McGowan <onlntmp1@uk.uu.net>
Subject: RE: remove MATT!

>Do you find when
>you type banana that you're unsure when to stop?

>banananananananananananananananananananananananananana

I get carried away with
remememememememembermermermermer


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:41 1997
From: Nigel Turner <nigelt@uk.uu.net>
Subject: RE: remove MATT!

>Cool. They think I fancy Pauly. Looks like we've managed to put them = off
>the scent. Nigel, Lets have another heated debate and it ought to stop = all
>the rumours circulating about us!=20

It's no use, Neil......I love you, and I want the whole world to know. = Pauly.... he's mine, so hands off.

>Angel tube was crap after it's refit. it lost all the atmosphere.

That's very true. It used to be GRAYT standing there on that narrow old = platform, trains rushing past on both sides, as you tried to take down = two sets of numbers at once. Now it's just another soulless, modern = pile of doggy do's.


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:41 1997
From: Jo McGowan <onlntmp1@uk.uu.net>
Subject: RE: remove MATT!

>> (has a moment of doubt and wonders if it wasn't the Chemical Brothers after all???) >
>has a moment of clarity and realises it was in fact Orbital

Doh! oh yeah, well they all sound the same, can't understand the words, etc. etc, etc,

>hey ho - it's hot here - wheres all that RAIN you promised us Neil?

>It is hot wet rain. It seems merely to make things hot and wet rather than >hot and dry.

how about Crisp and Dry?
or Shake and Vac?

It also means I don't have to spend an hour this evening watering the garden. Bonus!


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:41 1997
From: Sean Price <sean.price@service.britgas.co.uk> Subject: RE: remove MATT!

At 15:45 13/08/97 +0100, Jo McGowan wrote: >I get carried away with
>remememememememembermermermermer

what a womble-womble-womble you are?


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:41 1997
From: Paul_Clarke@ipc.co.uk
Subject: Re[2]: remove MATT!

It's my fault, smack my arse and send me upstairs...

I used an old message from Pills as my template for sending stuff...

     Mmmmm, salad and an onion bhajia and GARLIC BREAD! No, not my special
     recipe, I bought it from the canteen... it's bread with garlic in it,
     rather than bread with garlic butter.


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:41 1997
From: Sean Price <sean.price@service.britgas.co.uk> Subject: He is a Legend!

The 'Work is a four letter word' ep got reviewed today in the Melody Maker in the 'Suited and Booted' section of Maker Breakers for very small labels/bands written by dear Everett True (see Luce, when I pointed to the strange man at Belle and Sebastian and said 'I sent that man the record').

It said (for the benefit of Gary):

'Find of the week is the 'Work is a Four Letter Word'EP on Fortuna Pop!. Leicester quartet John Sims are like a girl-fronted Arab Strap. Cee Bee Beaumont off-shoot Go-Kart 800 play cool Billy Childish-style distorto shouty garage music. Mark Hibbett sings sweetly of the joys of working 9-5, while the Family Way's Sweet Little Nothings is a Sonny and Cher for the generation for the generation who never learned to sing. {-er, that's you Delia!}. Poptastic to the max.'

Cool!

So, when's the gig Delia?

Sean.

At 10:20 13/08/97 +0100, Neil wrote:
>
>Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 09:54:43 +0100 () From: M Hibbett >Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 09:54:43 +0100 () From: M Hibbett > To: Neil <N.Brown@lboro.ac.uk> Subject: In the Melody > To: Neil <N.Brown@lboro.ac.uk> Subject: In the Melody >Maker!!!!
>
>Noing! Buy the Melody Maker!!!!
>
>In their Indie Singles Tiny Section, it describes "Work is a 4 Letter >Word" as both "find of the week" and "poptastic." Everett True goes on to >say that John Sims are like Arab Strap with a girl singing, and that "Mark >Hibbett sings sweetly about the joys of working 9-5." >
>SINGS SWEETLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>I'm so excited i can barely type!
>
>I love everett true and always have. he is my favourite journalist. >
>Did you get the Mercury on monday, btw? Did it say owt about abbey Park? >
>Noing! Everett True spelt my name RIGHT! I LOVE HIM!!! >
>Home tomorrow! Zing! and also NOING!
>
>
>
>
>
>


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:41 1997
From: Neil <N.Brown@lboro.ac.uk>
Subject: F I S H!!

G R O I N!!

Stream of consciousness? Stream?, I have a veritable RIVER of consciousness flowing between the lumpy lobes of my brain! Swimming like a mad thing isn't enough to keep up! they sell BOATS at the edge of my consciousness, digging quarries with wee camel tracks up the jillsides and overhead we see a small aeroflot and the mist rolls in from the sea.

geocities still down??


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:41 1997
From: Neil <N.Brown@lboro.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: car valeting today

>
>Bob from Autosheen is here this afternoon. If you are interested in >having your car valeted today please mail me. >
>

God - I park my car under a tree full of pidgeons, it badly bneeds a wash.

You can grow spuds in the layer of dirt on the bonnet.

I think I have squirrels living in mine! Does he charge extra for woodland creatures?

>
>Alison
>
>
>
>
>good old Bob eh.
>
>


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:42 1997
From: Jo McGowan <onlntmp1@uk.uu.net>
Subject: car valeting today

Bob from Autosheen is here this afternoon. If you are interested in having your car valeted today please mail me.

Alison

good old Bob eh.


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:42 1997
From: Jo McGowan <onlntmp1@uk.uu.net>
Subject: RE: car valeting today

>Bob from Autosheen is here this afternoon. If you are interested in >having your car valeted today please mail me.=20

>God - I park my car under a tree full of pidgeons, it badly bneeds a = wash.
>You can grow spuds in the layer of dirt on the bonnet.

You can grow roodbarrb in the layer of dirt inside my car. The outside = has just got completely cleaned by the rain.

A very poncy client has just come to visit in our department, he drove = his ford cabriolet into the best parking space and then didn't put the = roof up. The heavens have just opened here and his car is full of water = and has apparently short circuted hahahaha.

I just left my lights on all morning.=20

>I think I have squirrels living in mine! Does he charge extra for = woodland
>creatures?

Do they get to choose the tapes while you're driving? He doesn't charge extra, as long as they promise not to eat the chamois = leather.

>
>Alison
>
>
>
>
>good old Bob eh.
>
>


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:42 1997
From: Jo McGowan <onlntmp1@uk.uu.net>
Subject: flapjacks

hmmmm, a lovely lunch in the canteen, sorry, restaurant accompanied by the ever lovely Nigel (he lent me 60p).

I had Peppered ham and mayonnaise sandwich and a grated carrot and = crunchy peanut butter sandwich and a mini can of fanta.

In a brief moment of frivolous excess, I persued Nigel to lend me 60p = for the pudding of the day which was:

Warm flapjacks with plum compote with hot custard 60p

I had cream, not custard and it was very nice, except for maybe the = binding agent in the flapjacks appearing to actually taste like petrol. Still, can't win 'em all eh?


Jo McGowan - Marketing Assistant

UUNET Consulting
332 Science Park =20
Cambridge
CB4 4BZ

T:01223 250949 - F:01223 250132 - E:onlntmp1@uk.uu.net



Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:42 1997
From: Jo McGowan <onlntmp1@uk.uu.net>
Subject: RE: remove MATT!...eh! eh! Cyalm down....

It was the ta ta(2) message that started it this morning - sent by = Pauly, before that we'd managed to refrain from including Matt on = anything.

As long as we just reply to messages from this afternoon onwards, we = should all be happy merry and bright.

oh, the farmer's in his den, the farmer's in his den, eee iiiii adddio the frmers in his den. ithankyou

> My message this morning was a reply to Jo. I dont know who Jo was > replying to when she did hers, but that was an old list. there are at > least 3 others going about. Some with Alan on and he asked to come off > the
> list weeks ago!


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:42 1997
From: Kosso <kosso@kosso.com>
Subject: remove MATT!...eh! eh! Cyalm down....

now look kids, I know it hot today... but just calm down....

Neil wrote:

> >Oh... I see. One rule for you, Neil, different rule for everyone > else.
> >
> >
>
>
>
> OK hand on heart I cocked up this mornign when I replied to a list > that
> turned out to have Matt on it. Maybe I should have checked it. Do you > check through the list everytime you do a group reply?

Eat your own balls. NOW BOY!!

>
>
> I think it's easier just to take someones name off as and when they > ask us
> to.
>
> My message this morning was a reply to Jo. I dont know who Jo was > replying to when she did hers, but that was an old list. there are at > least 3 others going about. Some with Alan on and he asked to come off > the
> list weeks ago!

blah blahblah blahblah blahblah blahblah blahblah blahblah blahblah blahblah blah

>
>
> Theres a lot of old lists still flying about. Its not a problem > really. I
> do get a hell of a lot of 'take me off the list' messages directed at > me,
> and it's not really that much of a bother. It pisses me off somewhat > when
> I get angry messages from peopel asking ME to take them off a list I > have
> no control over, yet I'm the one thas made to feel guilty when thier > email
> gets fucked up.
>
> I dont want to have to scrutinise lists everytime I post a message, > and
> neither does anyone else. All we have to do is take someones name off > when
> they ask us to.
>

Stick your head down the toilet.


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:42 1997
From: Neil <N.Brown@lboro.ac.uk>
Subject: toilets and fortuna pop!

>Stick your head down the toilet.
>
>

I did. It was lovely and refreshing. Thanks for that.

Any mention of fortuna pop ep in the NME then? or is that out tomorrow?


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:42 1997
From: Adrian_Harris@sonymusic.com
Subject: Re: todays lunch

look neilypoos - lunch_list@sonymusic.com doesnt work ok :)

here for everyones delectation is neil the wombat's reply

the cooking salad thing was in reference to this (cto) Nicoise Salad (1.60)

its gorge & sunny here at the moment....

ade

pauly - i think im in with that fanzine gurly - although i think she's a bit young ;)

To:       Adrian Harris
cc:       lunch_list @ sonymusic.com
From:     N.Brown @ lboro.ac.uk @ WORLDCOM
From:     N.Brown @ lboro.ac.uk @ WORLDCOM
Date:     13/08/97 14:47:31 CET

Subject: Re: todays lunch
Subject: Re: todays lunch

>
>was CRAP..
>
>ham & cheese omelette whch was soggy and crap and everything and what were >supposed to be well done chips turned out to be half cooked and fuckin >awful - a waste of 2 quid 10 pence...

did it get caught in the rain? it's going bananas overe here

>
>im tempted to go to burger king now.... >
>how the fuck do you cook a salad? (cto obviously means cooked to order) >

????

>Ploughmans Lunch - Cheddar or Brie with freshly baked baguette, Branston >Pickle, Gerkins and Salad ( 1.50 )
>Olive Ciabatta toasted with home made Pesto, sliced Tomatoes and Mozzerella
>( 1.60 )
>Potato skins with sour Cream and Chives ( 1.60 ) >-o0o-
>Thai Chicken Curry (1.90 )
>Ratatouille (1.60)
>(cto) Nicoise Salad (1.60)
>* Chicken Drumsticks cooked in spicy Soy Sauce (1.80) >
watch out! if its not there already then BIG RAIN is heading your way!!

>
>
>
>


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:42 1997
From: Adrian_Harris@sonymusic.com
Subject: todays lunch

was CRAP..

ham & cheese omelette whch was soggy and crap and everything and what were supposed to be well done chips turned out to be half cooked and fuckin awful - a waste of 2 quid 10 pence...

im tempted to go to burger king now....

how the fuck do you cook a salad? (cto obviously means cooked to order)

Ploughmans Lunch - Cheddar or Brie with freshly baked baguette, Branston Pickle, Gerkins and Salad ( 1.50 )
Olive Ciabatta toasted with home made Pesto, sliced Tomatoes and Mozzerella ( 1.60 )
Potato skins with sour Cream and Chives ( 1.60 ) -o0o-
Thai Chicken Curry (1.90 )
Ratatouille (1.60)
(cto) Nicoise Salad (1.60)


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:42 1997
From: Kosso <kosso@kosso.com>
Subject: Hmmm....Vessel...ADE IS A STAR!!!!!!!!!!

just what WAS the VESSEL doing around the corner from my workplace, stood outside a sandwich shop in white slip-ons?

Hmmm.... I fear I am being stalked.

BTW he don't half look funny without the wig and makeup.

Almost human.

Oh, and STAR OF THE YEAR AWARD GOES TO ...

ADRIAN HARRIS for getting hold of a ticket for The Verve tomorrow night...

Hmmm..... I fell I must ply him full of alcohol for such a super deed.

WOO HOO!!! indeed..

and NOING!!

and GRATE!


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:42 1997
From: Neil <N.Brown@lboro.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: DRUGS!

>I posted this on uk-indie, but thought I'd copy it here. Anyone else >watch that very frustrating 'debate' last night?

<rant which i totally agree with>

>
>Sorry, but I got very pissed off at people's idiocy and short-sightedness >last night.

Exactly - my posting to Angst (which I'll leave on there as a precis will do) was saying how keeping it illegal disallows control over theh drug market which could make it physically safer for all concerned if it was legalised. After all an awful lot of violence is caused by people inthe drug market, much of which sadly involves innocent people. People who never even look at drugs can still wind up being caught in the cross fire. If money was freed up by legalising such drugs as cannabis then maybe we could use the extra resources to help people get off drugs like crack and go after the dealers and the mobs which push hard drugs.

OK soft drugs might lead onto hard drugs. Cannabis is widely regarded to be a 'softer' drug than alchohol is it not? Most of the ppl anti legalisation on TV last night seemed just a tad puritanical.

Maybe that's one reason why society is anti cannabis? Puritanism. because you don't get the hangover and the guilt the next day. Theres no retribution and in what is a basically christian society the underlying thought is that if a drug involves no immediate penalty, then all hell will break loose if it becomes legal.

Perhaps one thing those middle class oiks on the TV forgot is that most people that smoke pot have nothing like the spending power that they do and would consequently have an awfully hard job smoking enough pot to cause any real problems? Or perhaps not.

Being able to think for yourself is such an important thing. >Dogma is *evil*.
>
>Um, right yes, well! Congrats to Mark and Neil for their mentions in >the MM, which incidentally has one of those heinous spice girls (um >i think it's which-one-is-she spice. Or is it

cheers baby!

and Gary! he's in John simms too you know!

>getting-podgy-old-slapper-spice?
>Pauly, you've got their pictures all over your wall. Help us out...) on >the cover this week. Doing that badly, eh? >
>Cool, I thought it was over as far as album releases for the rest of >the year go, but we still have PORTISHEAD, MASSIVE ATTACK and >THE VERVE to come. Honestly Richard, what do you mean the drugs >don't work? Sort your dealer out maaaaan, for crissakes! You see with a >coffee
>shop system, this wouldn't be a problem....... >
>Gary
>


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:42 1997
From: Adrian_Harris@sonymusic.com
Subject: Re: DRUGS!

gary the top bloke said:
>I posted this on uk-indie, but thought I'd copy it here. Anyone else >watch that very frustrating 'debate' last night?

"snip"
>the MM, which incidentally has one of those heinous spice girls (um >i think it's which-one-is-she spice. Or is it getting-podgy-old-slapper-spice?

i read the interview - i thought she's quite cool and i'd be her boyfriend ;)

>Honestly Richard, what do you mean the drugs don't work? >Sort your dealer out maaaaan, for crissakes!

absolutely - bleedin hopeless if you ask me....

ive just been sent an invite to a
"You are invited to attend Stress Management For Women - a one day seminar"

huh?

do they know something i dont?

weirdos....

oh and after introducing the chumba discussion on angst - melody maker do a whole page on the topic - HA - am i ahead of the music press? - i think so....

ade


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:42 1997
From: Gary Hawes <Gary.Hawes@brunel.ac.uk> Subject: Re: DRUGS!

At 15:17 13/08/97 +0100, Neil wrote:
>
>Exactly - my posting to Angst (which I'll leave on there as a precis will >do) was saying how keeping it illegal disallows control over theh drug >market which could make it physically safer for all concerned if it was >legalised. After all an awful lot of violence is caused by people inthe >drug market, much of which sadly involves innocent people. People who >never even look at drugs can still wind up being caught in the cross fire. >If money was freed up by legalising such drugs as cannabis then maybe we >could use the extra resources to help people get off drugs like crack and >go after the dealers and the mobs which push hard drugs.

100% sense!

>OK soft drugs might lead onto hard drugs. Cannabis is widely regarded to >be a 'softer' drug than alchohol is it not? Most of the ppl anti >legalisation on TV last night seemed just a tad puritanical.

Tell me about it! Did you see that AWFUL, PALE, SANCTIMONIOUS, ALTAR-HUGGING, JESUS IS THE ONLY MAN FOR ME BINT who quoted from St Paul (something about maintaining strength of character??) and then passionately proclaimed that she was ashamed of her drug-taking friends? She scared me, she really did. Most people who are vehemently anti-drugs are ignorant hypocrites anyway. My ex-girlfriend used to chide me for smoking the good herb because she was worried about it affecting my health. Incidentally, since I took up smoking pretty much habitually 2 years ago I've hardly been ill at all and most colds are chased off in a couple of days. There is some research in fact to suggest that cannabis actually ENHANCES your immune system. Anyway, my ex-girly smiked 20+ fags a day, which tell you on the packet that they KILL you. She wouldn't have it though that she was being a bit of a patronising, hypocritical OLD SLAPPER!!!! (sorry, just venting spleen)

>Maybe that's one reason why society is anti cannabis? Puritanism. because >you don't get the hangover and the guilt the next day. Theres no >retribution and in what is a basically christian society the underlying >thought is that if a drug involves no immediate penalty, then all hell >will break loose if it becomes legal.

Interesting point Neil. Indeed, there is NO HANGOVER with cannabis. Sometimes just a slightly wooly headed feeling, that's all, but at the weekends I love to wake up, open my eyes and then think "JOINT!!!!!", skin up, lay in bed, listen to some choons............ahhhhhhhhh, now *that's* lufferly.

>Perhaps one thing those middle class oiks on the TV forgot is that most >people that smoke pot have nothing like the spending power that they do >and would consequently have an awfully hard job smoking enough pot to >cause any real problems? Or perhaps not.

Well, presumably, if legalised, price would come down to about 50quid an ounce (from about 90 round my way at the mo). Now, I smoke about an ounce a month, so it would be considerably cheaper for me, and yes, maybe I would smoke more, but then I've never considered it a problem. Winging "ooooooooo I can't do anything once I've had a smoke" is pretty crap and pathetic if you ask me. Of course you fucking can!
There's nothing better IMO than partaking of a spliff and then going out and DOING SOMETHING! It should be used to enhance, not procrastinate.

>>Um, right yes, well! Congrats to Mark and Neil for their mentions in >>the MM, which incidentally has one of those heinous spice girls (um >>i think it's which-one-is-she spice. Or is it >
>cheers baby!
>
>and Gary! he's in John simms too you know!

Sorry! Well done Gary too!

Gary

WE THE FREED!!!


Date: Wed Aug 13 17:48:42 1997
From: Adrian_Harris@sonymusic.com
Subject: smokin on ver tube

>Anyone else remember those nice red trains which were all varnished wood inside? Made in >Derby I think, the last ones ran on the Bakerloo line till about 1984.

i do - god was it that long ago - i used love the smoking carriages and the fact that if you dropped your fag wrong it got stuck in the ruts in the floor and you had to twist yer foot to put the fag out - thats a lie actually - smoking on the tube always tasted orrible - but you always had one and you always knew it would taste orrible... 1