JJJ: David Sayer at LIVID with Veruca Salt, hello Nina , hello Louise.
Post:Hello, this is my scratch from today, I have war wounds.
JJJ: I can stand,sort of, witness to this - she's got an abrasian on her knee.
Post: And my pants ripped, my new pants from Japan.
JJJ: That was a pretty adventurous little stage dive there, will you be doing
that again in a hurry, do you think?
Post: As soon as possible, Um ,No.
JJJ: How was the crowd out there?
Post: They were pretty cool, except they were kinda groping, but the guy who was
groping kinda paid the price for it.
JJJ: How so?
Post: Uh, one of my friends kicked his ass... knocked him out cold.
JJJ: Well there you go, there's a lesson learnt for all of us.
Post: At the end of our show at LIVID we got a note from this girl in our
dressing room from, ostensibly, from a woman who cares about these things. She
scolded us for taking our clothes off, although we didn't actually strip, we
sometimes show up wearing lingerie and such. And I would just like to say to
that woman and any women who are concerned, that women need to take their own
image into their own hands. If these women aren't comfortable with wearing scant
clothing then they shouldn't, and they should start their own bands and make a
point of it. I spent my whole life being ashamed of my body, and I'm not going
to stop celebrating it. And other women need to take it into consideration that
their body is their own choice and that's the way that all women should feel
about their own bodies, Triple J, Veruca Salt - in the house..... Nina do you
have anything to add?
Gordon: Two plus two equals four
Post: Nina's the spacey dumb one of the group
Gordon: OK Louise, since I'm the spacey dumb one, what are you?
Post: I'm the slutty sick one.
Gordon: How do you define a slut?
Post:Um
JJJ: Why can't i ask these questions?
Post: Because you couldn't think of them
[ Laughter]
Gordon: How do you define a slut?
Post: I think a slut is an icredibly demeaning word to describe a woman from
someone else's perspective who sleeps around or offers her body to others. And
it's traditionally associated with girls who have a lot of sex, and it's really
only used by people who disapprove or who are speculating on someone's
sexuality. But the word slut itself an incredibly derogatory term that women
should re-appropriate for themselves. If they want to exploit themselves in
their own way, then it's their individual choice.
Gordon: That's why we're renanimg our band Veruca Slut. We're reclaiming the
word SLUT. It's ours now, you can't have it anymore. Do you have a question for
me?
Post: Yes. How do you feel about stains on your clothing?
Gordon: I hate stains. Especially when I'm wearing white, which I tend to do.
A stain can ruin a day. Just a tiny little spot on my pants or on my shirt can
ruin an entire day, I will become obsessed. But luckily I have Mother, who knows
how to get every stain out, every stain possible. So you just call my mom,
anyone can call her, you just call her up and ask how do I get chocolate out of
denim and she'll tell you, or how do I get wine out of silk, OK. Let me ask you,
what was the best thing about playing at the LIVID festival today?
Post: The best thing...
JJJ: I was actually going to get to that actually. Here's a question I actually
can ask. What was the best thing about playing at LIVID today?
Post: I think the best thing about playing at LIVID today was when Nina fell on
me at the end of playing `Shimmer like a girl' because whenever we have contact
on stage I get happy.
Gordon: She gets turned on.
[Pause from interview to play `Seether'. Returns to final part of interview]
JJJ: Well I hope you're all happy out there, I'm presently sitting here watching Veruca Salt smirk and laugh in my direction................
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Some comments after interview was broadcast:
David Sayer(interviewer): I sort of felt like David Attenborough doing a documentary with the volume down.
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(I missed the start of the interview)
Gordon: ... chocolate, like the rest of us
Post: and cute clothes
JJJ: So you are experienced Princesses both of you?
Post: I'm an extremely experienced princess, as bratty as they come
JJJ: I think thats fabulous
Gordon: As bratty as they want to be
JJJ: I'm really into princess pride myself
Post: Oh good - I like your hair
JJJ: Thank you, its actually real
Post: I know
JJJ: It is
Post: I can tell
JJJ: Thank you
Post: It's really cool
JJJ: Thank you so much - Veruca Salt said my hair's cool so NERR !
Sorry, I'm very grown up as you can see. You're going to do a tuney woon?
Post: Yeah
Gordon: A tuney woon ?
Post: This is a track, we call this a track
JJJ: Sorry in America you call it - Princesses in America call it a track
Post: Yeah, actually - not really - we hate the word...
Gordon: We hate it when people refer to songs as tracks because it makes it
sound like - thats what record company people do, like, "OH THATS A GREAT TRACK!"
Post: Yeah, Lay down a track !
Gordon: Right, lay down a track; so we just call it a song
JJJ: a song, a lovely tune
Post: What did you call it before?
JJJ: A tuney woon
Post: A tuney woon
JJJ: I was just trying to, I was just trying to evoke princess speak
Post: I'm out of deodorant do you have any ?
JJJ: Um, you smell very nice
Gordon: Thats me, not Louise
Post: Thats Nina - I lost mine....
JJJ: [I've got some perfume] it's volupte'
Post: Volupte'
JJJ: What are you wearing ?
Gordon: This is called " Voyage ", and you can only get it in one place in
America [ Los Angeles ]
JJJ: Oh nerr nerr nerr nerr nerr, well you can get mine, well I'm very common,
you know, you can get mine everywhere. Would you like to try some ?
Post: Yeah
JJJ: It's very nice
Post: Thanks
JJJ: It's a, it's a, Ahh, see this is, I've dreamt of this,
Gordon: Don't spray too much, Don't Spray too much !!
JJJ: exchanging perfume with Veruca Salt
Gordon: You're gonna put it in your armpits !!
Post: Yeah
Gordon: She's putting it under her arms !!
JJJ: I did the very same thing, it's a, um, crisp, crisp floral oriental with
fruity notes
Post: Um, OH GOD
Gordon: "eww", don't we like it, I haven't smelt it yet, it hasn't wafted my
way yet
Post: Oh it will
JJJ: What would you normally wear ?
Post: My scent naturel, [is] Egyptian Musk
JJJ: I don't know that one
Post: It is my favorite scent in the world, and the problem is a lot people
make versions of Egyptian Musk that aren't the greatest, that aren't the one,
that I need, so badly - and I'm running out
JJJ: That [you] have to have !!
Post: I do, and i actually, i called this woman in Hawaii and she gets it -
that was where I bought it at first - and she gets it from this guy in, I
don't know, India or someting, and she was going to ship it to me in Chicago.
I'm really desperate for it
JJJ: You're so naughty, you're so very bad
Post: I know
JJJ: How do you, how do you - just bfore you sing - how do you reconcile the two
sides of Veruca Salt, the one that wants to be, or the one that truly is
autonomous and rockin' and stuff like that, and then the other one who just has
to have her lip gloss. No problem at all ?
Gordon: We just write songs about it and how we reconcile it. I think that is
what all our songs are about
Post: Yeah
Gordon: Rconciling the what and the what ?
JJJ: Don't listen to me I'm full of shit
Gordon: No it's good
JJJ: Lets play a song
Post: {with a comical lisp} We have some feminist theories that we'd like to
share with you
Gordon: {with lisp} We'd like to make some feminist references, would you like
hard-boiled eggs with your feminist references
JJJ: YES - a song
Post: So, speaking about feminist references, lets play Seether - what did you
think it was about ?
JJJ: Feminine fluidity
Post: Does that mean feminine fluid
Gordon: I'm thinking of marketing a new product for women who go through
menopause, called Seether, its like, a lubricant called Seether. Don't you
think that's a good idea?
Post: Oh !
JJJ: Theres always hormone replacement therapy
Post: Ouch !
Gordon: Yeah, thats true, but I thought Seether could help out
Post: The cat's out of the bag Nina, everyone knows what it is
Gordon: SEETHER trademark
JJJ: I'm looking forward to menopause frankly
[Guitar starts playing softly]
Gordon: Howard Stern thought [Seether] was about anal sex
JJJ: Howard Stern would
Gordon: Yeah we went on his show and he asked us
Post: Nina anytime now you can start singing
[They sing the slow version of Seether]
[Song ends]
Gordon: Alright !
JJJ: Almost unreasonably sultry you Veruca Salters you
Gordon: Isn't it gross when you play it like that, its like, the words become
so foul
JJJ: Oh its great
Gordon: Its like this oozing song
JJJ: I know, exactly, its about feminine specificity that refuses the
boundaries of male rigidity. ROCK AND ROLL
Post: I need a tissue ...
[End of first part of interview]
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