| | This is a discussion a few of us have been having about the character of Greg Preston. It began with us discussing his actions during Law and Order, but has since expanded to become a more general discussion about the man - and his motives! It was a bit difficult to make the discussion sound coherent,
so I've had to do some editing - I hope the participants don't feel I've misquoted them! Greg Preston: The Man and His Motives Gladys I think it was the character of Greg Preston that first caught my attention in Survivors. Abby's yuppie
persona in the first episode irritated me so greatly, I fast forwarded the tape through much of it. Then Greg walked into his house and spoke to his dead wife saying he though she would have stayed alive just to spite him. Ah, I thought, now there's an insufficiently ingratiating grump who believes in speaking his mind. A man after my own heart, (since speaking plainly frequently lands me in barnyard substances).There were things about Greg's
personality that were far more explicit in Terry Nation's novel - looking back on it, I can see that they tried to get elements of that across in Ian MCulloch's performance, but the things that really fleshed out Greg's personality and explained some of his behavior were left out of the tv scripts. In the novel, it's brought out that Greg had tried hard to "play the game", getting awards in school and Uni, striving for a good job, making
a "good" marriage. He was by nature a responsible person who was beginning to wonder about the constraints and ties that society had put on his life, becoming increasingly disillusioned with the "glittering prizes". Had the plague not come along, he would have become increasingly stressed out, possibly depressed, alcoholic, substance abuser or something like that. Definitely on prozac before 40! After the plague, he found
himself free to remake his life however he wished - and one thing he seemed sure about was not getting tied down again - hence the reluctance to committ to Abby's group at first. Despite that, his basic sense of responsibility remained. I always felt his attitude towards Jenny was not initially a grand passion, but more an acceptance of responsibility, and an affection which deepened over time. There was another incident in the book that
supports the view of Greg as a fundamentally "responsible" person. He leaves the community for a short trip but doesn't return when expected. Jenny is sure he's balking at committment of many kinds while the truth is he found a large number of unburied bodies where he was going and took the time to hunt up a backhoe to use to bury them. Which you can read either as a compassionate or a purely practical act. Phil In the episode Law and Order, Greg's excuse for sparing Price from being executed seems inconsistent (the community couldn't afford to lose any more people) . Had his reason been that there had been too much death already, or that he didn't want to go through executing another person, I'd have found it more believable than just saying that Price was too useful.
Greig As you say, Greg's arguments for sparing Price don't make sense. They could also be seen to show a rather dark side to his personality. He makes remarks about how Barney should be "put down like a sick animal". Along with his sparing of Price - a lazy, deceitful, murderer with the excuse that he is too usefuel - Greg's attitude to
the disabled seems none too healthy! Surely if the community needed all able-bodied people, it should never have been an option that Barney would be executed. If it was right that Barney was executed, Price should have been executed too! Gladys Without disputing that there is a dark side to Greg's character (as there is to all of us), I don't think
it relates to the handicapped, vis a vis Barney being more expendable than Tom Price. In Spoils of War it's Price who wants to take all Vic Thatcher's supplies at the quarry. Just taking the goodies doesn't seem to have occurred to either Paul or Greg, and it's Greg who asks Vic if he wants to join the group. When Vic says he wouldn't be much use, it's Greg who says he's certainly done alright for himself at the quarry. Later, in
Revenge, it's Greg and Paul who risk a trip to town for, among other things, a proper wheelchair for Vic.Frankly, I just accepted the non-killing of Tom Price at face value because the reasoning seemed perfectly logical to me. There's a point in most communes, particularly rural agricultural ones, where there's a lot of sheer physical work needed. We've given up our garden because it required to much time and effort here, so the amount of
physical labor in a place like the Grange, where the garden is for sustenance, rather than supplementary veggies, must be staggaring. The other reason for not killing Price came to be later - a very smart sort of executive decision on Abby's part. With survival still so marginal, could the community have dealt with the emotional blow of knowing they had made a mistake? To me it seems a reasonable decision not to reveal the truth about Price at
once. Based strictly on the canon, we know the rest of the community eventually finds out: in A Friend in Need, Jenny makes reference to the fact that executing Barney was a mistake. She does this quite publicly, so you can assume its no surprise to Arthur Russell, the only one left from the Grange besides Jenny, Greg and the kids (And Daisy, the cow with the sore tits). Hah, maybe I've been watching too many X-Files, but the
decision to let Price lived and keep the truth secret reminds me of all the crapola the U.S.government has kept from us in the name of national security over the years. And only told us if forced to, because they thought it would be better if we didn't know...At least at the Grange, the truth eventually came out! If you want to get into Greg's dark side, how about "Long Live the King"? Of course, it's arguable infinitely whether what
resulted was Greg's ideas, or Agnes'.My vote goes to Agnes, but that whole discussion will have to wait for another time! Greig I suppose your point about Vic is fair enough - I'd forgotton about that - but I would question whether Greg sees Vic's physical handicap in the same way as Barney's mental handicap. Greg probably can empathasize with Vic
- and it's likely he feels a responsibility towards him, as it was Greg who saved him, set his legs and left him to die (albeit accidentally). Whereas with Barney, he can't relate to his condition, and Barney's difficulty in understanding things probably strikes at the same chord as Greg's fustration over the lack of "common sense" and "practicality" shown by the rest of the group! Barney is the embodiment of Greg's
fustration! It is now obvious that Greg's execution of Barney was an unconscious act of murder!I like your conspiracy theory idea about why they didn't kill Price - the best explanation so far! Phil The Future Hour
probably confuses Greg's character even more, as he reverts to type in trying to get rid of the newcomers "for the sake of survival", even though Norman would almost certainly be killed, but when given the chance of solving the problem once and for all by killing Huxley in the dawn raid, he insists that there is to be no shooting. In reality there were only two possible final outcomes to the problem - Laura returning to Huxley, or Huxley's death.
Maybe Greg feels the responsibility of command demands tough words from him, but hopes that the others make a softer decision whose consequences he can't then be held responsible for. The episode does show Abby's naivety though - although she makes the 'right' decisions, she'd rather not think of the consequences and it is up to Greg to deal with the problems and realities that are the result of those decisions. Greig I think your comments about Abby apply equally well to Greg. They seem, in effect, to be the traditional male and female version of the same character. As you say, Greg pretends he's the practical, "for the sake of survival" guy, yet as is shown in his reluctance to kill Huxley, he naively tries to achieve a soft solution. He sums up the traditional male role:
acting tough and hiding his emotions. Abby on the other hand lets the world know how she is feeling and the problems with different courses of action, but when it comes down to it, she is the one who makes the often brutal decisions (eg. deciding to execute Barney). Phil I take your point about the two playing out the traditional male / female
roles, in fact that was extended in the last episode with all of the women sharing Abby's disbelief that Huxley would resort to violence to save his pride, whereas the men all agreed with Greg. Greig It was a shame that Carolyn Seymour was fired, and I know it caused some scandal over whether it was because the writers/producers didn't want a
woman as head of the community. Exit Abby, enter Charles... Gladys I was particularly fascinated by Greg's relationship with Charles. It was emotionally wrenching at times to watch the White Cross community go through many of the problems/issues I saw in communes in the 60's. Greg and Charles were archetypes of the two main threads/strains of
communical life: the practical engineer vs. the artistic dreamer. The fact that the two actors were such physical opposites highlighted this and was totally brilliant casting (I hope it wasn't just an accident!). Ironically, for any commune to be successful, you had to find a balance between the head and the heart - you lose big time if you don't have both. | |