How to maintain and repair a boat engine. |
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This page updated: July 2007 |
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Your boat may have more fuel filters than you suspect; don't overlook:
If your engine has a cartridge-type fuel filter, you may be able to buy an adapter (such as from ABC Precision Machining) to make it take a spin-on filter (better). |
Your boat may have more oil filters than you suspect; don't overlook:
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Your boat may have more air filters and screens than you suspect; don't overlook:
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Adjusting the valve clearances (maybe every 2 years or so)
can improve performance ? From John Dunsmoor:
From Gary Elder:
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BoatDiesel - Tony Athens' "What is white smoke?" Smoke at startup is normal; cold engine can't burn fuel completely. |
Starter solenoid does two things: acts as relay (activated by low current from ignition switch) to send high current from battery into starter, and pushes gear up starter's shaft to engage flywheel. If no click when ignition switch is turned, ignition switch circuit is bad or solenoid is stuck or failed. If one solid click but no cranking, solenoid probably is okay, but current is weak or starter is bad or engine is seized. If rapid clicking when ignition switch is turned, there is insufficient voltage at the starter (low battery or bad connection). From The Marine Doctor's Forum:
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From Thomas Theisen on SailNet's Gulfstar mailing list:
From Brian Armstrong on SailNet's Gulfstar mailing list:
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"What's Making Your Engine Vibrate?" article by Harry Swieca in 9/2001 issue of Sail magazine |
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Don't run engine with much diesel in the oil; it thins the oil a lot and can damage the bearings. |
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Reading results of engine oil analysis:
Tips:
Also can test coolant, hydraulic fluid, transmission fluid. |
I have a Perkins 6-354 with compression at 320 psi, 420, 415, 270, 380, and 400 for cylinders one thru six respectively. The mechanic suggests that a valve job be conducted at a cost of approximately $1500. If that fails to address the compression problem, they further recommend removing the block and repairing as necessary. They suggested that the cost of this venture could exceed $15,000. |
The compression problem is going to be either the valves or blow-by at the rings. Try this: squirt a little lube oil into each cylinder (I find that 80 weight gear oil works the best). Repeat the compression test. The oil will substantially help seal the rings, so if your compression improves a lot then your problem is the expensive rebuild. If the compression only improves a little, then you're looking at the valve job. |
[When replacing fuel injection pump on my Perkins 6.354, I asked if
getting the timing wrong could damage the engine, injectors, fuel lines
or injector pump.]
If your pump timing is out it will not damage your engine. Depending on how far it is out, it will either not start at all, or if just out the engine will have no power and be hard to start. Might smoke as well, but you can not damage the engine; it is only if you get the valve timing out that you can damage the engine. |
Summarized from Steve Wolfe in 4/2005 issue of Sail magazine:
From TTollef552 on the Morgan mailing list:
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From John / Truelove on the live-aboard mailing list:
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My experience has been that rebuilds on old diesels are pretty much a waste of money and time - unless you do all the labor yourself (and know what you're doing). The cost and trouble of getting the old engine out and putting it back in again, plus the labor and parts on the rebuild, in my experience, are usually a very large percentage (70% ?) of the cost of a new engine. |
One gallon of diesel fuel will produce around 16 HP for 1 hour. So the average load on a diesel engine can be estimated by multiplying fuel consumption (in gallons per hour) by 16. |
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From Lew Hodgett on The Live-Aboard List:
From Roger Rippy on The Live-Aboard List:
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One of the biggest risks is breaking a head bolt or a
head stud (I don't know which you have). If that happens, removing the
'remains' can be a bit intimidating. I've had it happen to me, and I had to
drill out the broken portion of the bolts - with a hand-held electric drill,
without damaging the female threads in the block.
Another consideration is cleanliness. All the crud that can fall into the cylinders when you remove the head and gasket must be removed before you install the new gasket and head. Sometimes small pieces of 'carbon', or even gasket material, will fall between the piston and cylinder wall, above the top ring - ya gotta remove that crud before the head goes back on. Don't let any seawater get into the cylinders either. Also, you will need a torque wrench, probably in the range of 75 - 150 ft lbs. They can be rented from the better equipment rental companies. You will need to find out what the actual torque specs are, and the tightening sequence for YOUR engine. |
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From Arild Jensen on The Live-Aboard List:
From Mark Mech on The Live-Aboard List:
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I've been a mechanic for 40+ years and any first-rate mechanic should be able
to tell you whether your problem is a valve job or a complete rebuild. A
previous writer suggested using a heavy gear oil to test your compression and
this usually produces a pretty good result. Expect to smoke up the yard/marina a
lot when your fire the engine back up. As previously stated, if the
compression improves dramatically with the oil in the cylinder, you need a
ring job.
I have a Ford 120 in my Gulfstar 43 MS and we rebuilt her bottom to top without removing the engine from the boat. We removed the head and had it reworked at a local machine shop. This included replacing all valve springs, valve guides, milling the head, and grinding and reseating the valves. Total cost, $750. New injectors, $420. I purchased a new crankshaft, main and rod bearings, new compression and wiper rings, and honed all cylinders. Total cost $680. We reused all pistons, pins, and connecting rods. Water pump $65. Gasget set, $125. Misc clamps and hoses, $25. Of course we did all the labor, which is the main cost associated with this undertaking, but she now purrs like a kitten and at a fraction of the cost of a new engine or having to pay outrageous labor charges. Not to mention ripping out the cockpit floor. If you've got as much room around your engine as I have around mine, I would suggest you entertain bids from local diesel mechanics to rebuild her where she sits, if that's what is needed. Be sure and put plenty of absorbent in your bilge and change it regularly, seal off the engine room as much as possible to prevent smelling up your cabin and vent, vent, vent. We did the project over the winter and even with the cold outside, it got pretty steamy in the confines of the engine room at times. |
We have a Gulfstar 50 MkII. I had the Perkins
removed by means of
a cable lowered into the engine room which is attached to the engine lifting
lugs using a lifting bar.
This is done via the round access plate put there for that purpose just forward of the steering pedestal. The engine/transmission are unhooked from everything, then lifted and slid forward into the companionway using timbers placed under the mounts and a come-along. The engine is removed from the boat straight up by a crane and that's it. Personally, after having gone through all of this - I think an in-boat rebuild is the way to go. |
Re: hoisting engine: A word of caution.
Slinging any load from the boom which is supported by a halyard to the masthead will create an effect similar to having that same weight suspended from the mast top. This will cause a lot of heeling. Because you have removed the engine from the hull you no longer have that ballast effect to assist with righting moment. Therefore the heeling amount will greatly increase. My recommendation would be to use a gin pole crane or else a tractor with a bucket or similar to lift the engine from boat to shore. The last thing you need is a stability issue dropping the engine overboard at the last moment. How much can it cost to have the yard guy help with the tractor for half an hour? |
Re: Repowering a Cruising Sailboat:
One caution for replacing an Atomic 4, it is important to keep the same prop rotation direction. Many boats have the prop shaft at an angle to counteract prop steer; if you reverse the the rotation with a new engine and transmission the boat may not want to steer properly under power. |
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