Zak Sitter: I am talking now via direct phone satellite interface with 'B'sau-Sau' of the band 'Caroliner Rainbow', and first of all I'd like to get on the table who is currently in the band.

B'sau-Sau: OK. Well, there's six to eight members. We have two 'here & there' types that'll show up to shows, show up to practices, and whatever, and usually don't end up on an album because they're not very reliable, and that's BulkCue and Elk-Possum, and Elk is probably going to do our next show coming up here, which none of you are going to see (Ha Ha!) because it's out here. But currently in the band is: Thunder Sun Dung, Grub Caliber, Puppy Who Wounds, Spider Compass, Trustal ... Trusted Knuckleman ... uh, who else, let's see that's what, five? There's one other person...eh ...oh, The Knowledge Breadboxer is playing the bass with us now.

[This was the band lineup at the time of the interview. -ed.]

ZS: OK. Can you tell me the background. I know you've probably related it many times, but the story of Caroliner the Singing Bull?

BS: Well the original Singing Bull was from back in the 1800's, and the whole trip was uh ... let's see. To start off, this gal had a singing bull on a ranch. She took it around, it sang all these songs, it could pick up songs, you'd relay these songs to it and then it would get it back to you, it would sing it back to you ... like a tape deck... right? And then, uh, so what she did is, she took it around, took it to all these mine camps, made a small little amount of money, you know, and entertained people. and took a [ ? ] took it back to the ranch [ ? ] damn it, can you hold on?

[please deposit 60 cents]

[thank you]

BS: OK. Anyway she goes back to the ranch, there's nothin' to eat, everything's gone to hell, there's no food, nothin', so she cuts up Caroliner and eats it, wraps it in its own skin and it keeps on singin'.

ZS: Mm hm.

BS: And then all the songs are whatever, passed down, and I got 'em. They all got copywritten in 1983 when the band first formed, and we're crankin' out the albums as soon is everybody has the time to get together and throw 'em together. It's really hard workin' with a lot of people. The eighth record is not gonna be that big of a deal because it's only like one or two people per song, workin' on a song, you know, the most being four people per song. So that should be coming out soon hopefully. And uh ... anyway. What was your question?

ZS: Just the Caroliner story, the Caroliner songs.

BS: Well. that's it. All the songs tie in with America and whatever was goin' on back then.

ZS: What size are the pressings of the albums?

BS: They're twelve inch records.

ZS: OK, but how many copies do you print?

BS: Oh, uh, well, we do about a thousand, and followed by, you know, 500 after that, followed by another 500, followed by another 500. That's like the lowest common denominator without going up to 1000 to get a good price at.

ZS: Right.

[Interview shortened for the webpage. On the second day of this interview, Caroliner played a song over the telephone. The tune appears on the split single with Culturcide. -ed.]