slogans of the 90's * 1. save the world kill a dragon angrywhitemale -- * 2. save the world kill a liberal angrywhitemale -- * 3. jerry is dead, phish sucks, get a job angrywhitemale -- * 4. impeach clinton angrywhitemale -- * 5. meat is murder, murder tastes good medium rare, smothered with mushrooms and onions angrywhitemale -- * 6. kill gay whales for jesus angrywhitemale -- thewhitehouse.com * 7. aids is the cure for fags angrywhitemale -- thewhitehouse.com * 8. Promote the foodchain, eat a vegetarian today. ChAoS -- Hate Kathylee? Sure we all do. Go to the link trader, go to ground zero and vote for Martha Stuart to beat Kathylee, keven Kelley will thank you. * 9. #6 As much as I hate you right now, that's funny as hell. I want a bumper sticker that says that. Heather Angel -- A1000Leavs@aol.com * 10. #7 That, on the other hand, is disgusting. Heather Ang -- rabbit where'd you put the keys girl? * 11. #9, Heather, don't take angrywhitemale seriously...its all just an act. No matter how much he denies it...he's not REALLY that much of a bigoted asshole. DragonLady -- www.dragonladysdesign.com * 12. Women rule and men drool! DragonLady -- Drool a little lower darling... * 13. A picture is worth a thousand words. Take one and shut up. Just Me -- * 14. It's not how you play the game--- it's whether you win or lose. Janet Nero -- * 15. Proud Sponsor of Murray the Rabbit Boy Heather Angel -- murray@halfhuman.com * 16. Kill Celebrities Heather Angel -- murray@halfhuman.com * 17. #1 Now, now dear. Proper punctuation is a must! That statement should be "Save the world, kill a dragon" See? A little comma isn't that hard to put in! Aunt Spelling Bea -- look@your.dictionary * 18. You know, Mr. Angrywhitemale, capitalization do so much for any bit of writing! You should try it sometime! Aunt Spelling Bea -- look@your.dictionary * 19. #9 Goodness dear, and just how funny is hell? Aunt Spelling Bea -- look@your.dictionary * 20. #19 Maybe it's just me, but the thought of almost every single politician, celebrity, public servant, and mormon I've ever met burning in an eternal pit of fiery magma as goat-legged monstrosities whip and torment them seems funnier than anything I've ever thought of before.... l0de -- l0de@hotmail.com * 21. Thank God For Abortion. l0de -- l0de@hotmail.com * 22. "Fuck the Boomers!" George Carlin. l0de -- l0de@hotmail.com * 23. "Who needs a soul or ethics when you too can attain the highest executive office in the country, solicit millions in illegal campaign contributions, smoke hemp, have sexual relations with dozens of women, and still have time left over to voice your support for public school uniforms? God Bless America" l0de -- l0de@hotmail.com * 24. "31337 d00d! VV}{0 N33DZ 84NDVV|DH VV}{3N 4 20$ A M0N7H |7 73115 Y0U VV}{3N U 607 M4|L??????!?!!!!!!!!" Hark the clarion of AOL. l0de -- l0de@hotmail.com * 25. #7: You sure about that? I thought you got cancer from fags. And they make your clothes smell and your breath stink. Dangerman -- * 26. #4: Yes, what the hell is it with Clinton and this peach? I thought it was just cigars he had a thing for. Dangerman -- * 27. #17 "Capitalization DOES so much" Betterthanyou.com -- * 28. Da gloves don't fit, you MUST acquit! OyJe! -- * 29. "Scully don't count." Oral sex is not having an affair. Shazam! -- * 30. #29 Um......maybe oral sex doesn't count, but didn't you read the rest of the Starr report? Heather Angel -- * 31. Be free, Be wild, Be blessed, Be beguiled. Jinxster -- witch, pagan and liberal * 32. Solve the population problem: castrate a man today. Jinxster -- witch, pagan and liberal * 33. OK, hands up if that one made you wince and\or cover your genitalia nervously. Jinxster -- witch, pagan and liberal * 34. Have you forgotten about Jesus? Isn't it about time you did? Jinxster -- witch, pagan and liberal * 35. #19: Very entertaining, if you ask me. The whole thing reminds me of a supernatural S&M bar. Jinxster -- witch, pagan and liberal * 36. #5: You're sick! I mean, ONIONS??? How could anyone like them? Jinxster -- Open up in the name of Freya * 37. Tastebuds, dear. Tastebuds. Aunt Spelling Bea -- look@your.dictionary * 38. #31 Um...I'm guessing you're pagan. Not to incite a riot here, but isn't paganism just as hypocritical as Christianity, as they are BOTH organized religions? Yes, yes, I hate Jesus as much as you do, but I also have absolutely no respect for the nature gods, such as Pan and Freya, who are now being embraced by my generation and all those who have been raised by the Moral Majority... Heather Angel -- God is dead. * 39. Anyway, it's not like I never went through my own Faerie Wicca phase. Maybe it's just another female rite of passage. I'm glad, though, that I dropped my studies of magick after I finished my junior year of high school. Heather Angel -- Attn: Jinxster. God is dead. * 40. Feminazis of the whirrled--- scramble your eggs! It's my therapist's fault. ;-D -- * 41. Do it the right way, dont go to any religion. ReedMan -- Attn. Heather: God never existed * 42. #38: Paganism's not that organised. No authoritative text to adhere to slavishly. No central authority (there's a few organising bodies, but they don't issue doctrines). There's as many different belief systems under the pagan label as there are pagans. Do what you will shall be the whole of the law. That's the nearest thing it's got to dogma. I don't think you could really say it's "organised"... Jinxster -- Attn: Heather and ReedMan - the religion may be true or not, the magic works most of the time. * 43. #37: It's not the taste, it's the texture. Hate 'em. Jinxster -- Attn: Heather and ReedMan - the religion may be true or not, the magic works most of the time. * 44. #42 Still, it's entrenched in the kind of ritualism that makes christianity so loathsome. Also, pagans, like christians, live under the notion that SOMEONE UP THERE (be it God or Freya) has got to be appeased. (Threefolds Law? Very similar to priests telling their flock to be good or they'll go to hell.) As far as religious doctrine goes, a pagan bible has yet to be created, but I don't know one neo-Gaelic girl who'll part with her precious Book of Shadows. Heather Angel -- Attn: everyone- God sucks. * 45. #44 Very well said. ReedMan -- Jinx: Magic Shmagic. * 46. #44: Ritualism - Some may go in for that, I don't. If it requires much more than candles, joss sticks and a bit of concentration, forget it. Jinxster -- * 47. Threefold Law gubbins: It's not about appeasing the gods; there's no pagan hell. It's about not hurting your fellow humans unnecessarily and about being a better human yourself. Basic psychology: if you're the sort of person who wants only to hurt others, you'll end up a very maladjusted individual. If you act responsibly to others, chances are they'll reciprocate and your life will be the better for it. I've never worshipped a pagan god or done magick to save myself from eternal damnation, I've done it to improve myself and my life. By and large, it's working. Jinxster -- * 48. Book of Shadows: Ever read one? They're not doctrinal works, they're spellbooks. Just as you don't set out to program a computer or study a degree without textbooks and maunals, so you need your main spells written down, especially if they're long complicated ones. However, I have to say, the ones I do rarely fall into that category. Jinxster -- * 49. Those are my views on paganism. Others may differ. But don't go thinking I'll fit your preconceived notions of paganism, because I probably don't. I'm way too individualistic. Jinxster -- * 50. #46 You're still resorting to symbols and worthless inanimate objects to do your bidding. I fail to see the difference between lighting christian church candles and lighting pagan altar candles. It's the same thing, sweetie. Heather Angel -- do you know where i am? i really want you to i'm here in outer space * 51. #47 The basic tenets of the religion have nothing to do with the point I'm trying to make here. It is my personal belief that, in essence, all religions are the same. You have no right to criticize another person's faith when you yourself subscribe to a faith that is not without its own flaws and hypocrisies. Heather Angel -- do you know where i am? i really want you to i'm here in outer space * 52. #49 [laughing out loud] That's what every pagan has ever said to me. Heather Angel -- do you know where i am? i really want you to i'm here in outer space * 53. #45 Thank you. :) Heather Angel -- do you know where i am? i really want you to i'm here in outer space * 54. Recover your "memories" and make a fat therapist fatter. Sigmund Fraud -- nuthouse@vienna.at * 55. Once you pop, the fun don't stop. ēģ° -- * 56. Farkels of the world, Unite! SmElymouse -- * 57. #50: But I don't actually *need* the candles. I could do any of it in a bare room if I had to. And I have done before now. That's partly the point, to get so good you don't need the props. The best witches don't need to do magic anymore, they just need to articulate their desire, think about it and it'll happen. But I've only been doing this for two years. And most pagans you'll meet are probably not much more experienced. You don't see novice ice skaters doing pirouettes, leaps, etc, do you? If you can prise them off the edge, you're lucky. Same with the craft. Jinxster -- not antichrist, just antichristian * 58. #52: I see. And were they dressed in goth gear with a Book of Shadows under one arm and an Inkubus Sukkubus CD under the other? I own one pentagram. Just one. That's all. I don't even wear it all the time. My hair is it's natural colour. I have considered dying it black but didn't bother. I don't wear black continuously. I've even been known to wear pink. No piercings or tattoos either. No black make up other than nail varnish. But I also have the cherry red stuff. I don't have a Book of Shadows. I do have an occult library, but most is practical not theory. I do like Inkubus Sukkubus, but then I also like Fleetwood Mac and Madonna. I can read pagan literature and disagree, no matter how respected the author. Ever thought the reason why pagans claim to be different is because it's true? Jinxster -- not antichrist, just antichristian * 59. #51: All religions are true, deep down. The mystical, esoteric strands of any religion agree with each other. But the exoteric fronts are as different as can be. I have no problem with Christ, despite all appearances to the contrary. ;) Just a lot of his "followers". The ones that claim to be doing the Lord's work, but who are in fact the ones who Jesus will say to at the end "I never knew you". These are my targets, and they are the reason I diss Christinsanity (my pet name for the fundamentalist version). It pisses them off something chronic! Jinxster -- not antichrist, just antichristian * 60. #58 I just find it immensely grating that most (not all, of course, but most) Wiccans think that somehow they are "different" and "special" for being part of such a religion. The adolescent "nobody understands me" mentality seems to go along with being pagan. Heather Angel -- * 61. #51 Well, even if I don't entirely agree with it, I can see your point. I still don't quite comprehend how anyone would want to belong to any religion or craft whatsoever, but I can't tell you what to worship and what not to worship. (Christinsanity...that's hysterical. I love it.) Heather Angel -- * 62. I'll weigh in here. #48 No offence Jinx, but the idea that you can use spells to improve your life, or do anything for that matter, is quite rediculous. Check that, they can do at least one thing. They can change your own mindset, how you think and dea ReedMan -- rpearce@reed.edu * 63. If you believe that a particular spell will help you in a particular situation, then you will be more likely to act as if what you want to happen will happen. With such a positive attitude and a belief that something will happen, it usually will. ReedMan -- rpearce@reed.edu * 64. Once you realize that all the good stuff that happens is entirely up to you, you should realize that the spells and incantations are merely a catalyst to your own actions. ReedMan -- rpearce@reed.edu * 65. #31. Ahem. Possesing a set of said genetalia, I must make a serious reprimand to you for such a comment. Eventually you see, I hope that the world will realize that it's problems of overpopulation and the consequential starvation of that surplus can solve each other. My solution? Canabalism. For those of you who've not tried it, human flesh is by far the tastiest of meats, surpassing even the choicest beefs and porks. I say, if we are going to go about killing animals for food, why not extend that to all animals? It seems foolish and wasteful to me that we should be so pretentious as to have disgust at the thought of consuming another of our species. Hmmmm.... Don't all dial up the nursing home at once now. l0de -- l0de@hotmail.com * 66. Before I start in on this one, I'd just like to commend everyone here who has participated in this psuedo-debate. So far as I can see, pepole have put logic and reasoning, however contrived, before childish name calling and flames and all that rubbish. Kudos to you all. l0de -- l0de@hotmail.com * 67. Looking over the entries on this list, it somewhat saddens me that so few people believe in God anymore. I was of course aware of this, but was doping myself away from the truth, God has little appeal to the youth of the world. I'm not talking christianity of course, as I happen to be an old school god man, I was never quite sold on the aspect of that fisherman. But regardless of what I believe, it is a shame that so many years of tradition must eventually die. Ahh well, let the moslems have it for a while, then we'll see what develops. Where was I....? Ah. You see, God happens to exist. It defies all logic, I realize this, but He's there, and very much alive. I was as shocked as you when I found out, and am still adjusting to the fact, but it seems that He's there no matter what I want to believe. Yes, this is firsthand knowledge. He's there, but I don't think anyone's quite figured out exactly what He is, or what He wants. See, this is the problem with religion. It is designed, one way or another(Disregarding Daoism, ect) to please a supernatural entity. Now, even if this supernatural entity exists, and did in fact create the universe as we know it, how are we to understand him? Ours is the position of the ant placing a grain of sugar at the foot of a man, we make ourselves large by pretending that the man could care at all for the actions of the ant. So I imagine. l0de -- l0de@hotmail.com * 68. Yeah, I'm gonna take some flak on that "Firsthand knowledge" Thing, but what care I for what others think of me? (Great, try to convince them of your sanity after proposing canabalism as an alternative to world hunger. Good thinking Old one.) When the book comes out, maybe you will see. Maybe not. I want your ideas, not your trust. l0de -- l0de@hotmail.com * 69. Barreling right along this "Dope-addled geriatric" path to ruination, I must say that I am quite disappointed in you, man of Reed. Ajh. To think that you would be so quick to jump on the back of anything outside of logic is rather booring, but logic is convienience, and people are lazy. Of course I'm not going to tell you that magic is real, and that "Witches Fyre" or some other such bullshit is in any way part of reality. I do not believe that these so called "pagans" can perform miracles any more than I believe in papal infalibility, but the smugness of logic in defying all that it cannot define is it's undoing. There is more on this orb of rock then the labcoats of the world can explain today or ever will. This is only this planet, I shudder to think of the vast reaches of space and their possibilities. Science is a tool. It has many applications, and strengths, but to assume for even a moment that it has domain over all is laughable. Mayhap some "Witch" cannot bestride the world with a fistful of guano and some gibberish, but there is power in the mind beyond the most preposterous claims of Magicians. Power that science has nothing to do with, power that springs from something other than a collection of synapses and cells. Live long enough, and do it with open eyes, and anyone will see this. l0de -- l0de@hotmail.com * 70. And since I did not offer any specific example for the above statement, as I am told is an often bad habit of mine, I will offer the little tidbit that evolution (NOT natural selection) simply does not work. Feel free to debate this with me, I am quite well read on the topic. It does not, and cannot be proven to work. Simple as that. So where then, does such biodiversity as cannot be explained by natural selection spring from? The answer is beyond science, and what man currently knows. l0de -- l0de@hotmail.com * 71. Feel free to e-mail me to express any vulgar opinions you may have as to what I've said. Heh, here dns dns dns..... l0de -- l0de@hotmail.com * 72. And as far as those of you who have chosen not to believe in a religion go, enjoy it while it lasts. But remember, as the phrase goes, "You gotta believe in something" l0de -- l0de@hotmail.com * 73. #69 Ah, thank you for adding your insightful, if somewhat longwinded remarks. I feel I should probably rephrase myself. ReedMan -- Somewhere in portlan,d ORegon * 74. My denial of magic was pointed for the most part at the sorts of magic such as the good Jinx was espousing. However, I fully agree with you. There are things in this world that science has not and probably will not explain. I tend to err on the side of ReedMan -- Somewhere in portlan,d ORegon * 75. Now, I firmly believe that the personified deity espoused by most religions does not exist. However, I think there may be some...thing behind it all. Not necessarily an entity that created everything...but rather some life force. ReedMan -- Somewhere in portlan,d ORegon * 76. I dont know quite how to explain it, but I feel that there is some force (Shut up Hillsdalers, I'm not talking about The Force). Something primordial that we can get in touch with. ReedMan -- Somewhere in portlan,d ORegon * 77. This force has been felt throughout mankind and man, with his mind has sought to understand this. He has given it the name of God and given it supreme awareness. ReedMan -- Somewhere in portlan,d ORegon * 78. Now, I admit I'm schizophrenic on this point. I sense the lifeforce in some way, and yet I deny the spiritual. Why? I dont know, perhaps because facing this primordial force, raw life power is frightening. We deal with this in different ways. Some giv ReedMan -- Somewhere in the Universe * 79. Now, I am naturally skeptical of your "first hand experience" of God. If what you say is true, then you may have found some method of coming in closer contact with the raw life force than usual. If this force is god, I dont think it created the universe ReedMan -- Somewhere in the Universe * 80. Arrrgh! Words are a prophylactic in the transmission of ideas. ReedMan -- Somewhere in the Universe * 81. GENERIC SPIRITUAL COMMENT GENERIC TOP-X USER -- * 82. #62- #64: You think you're telling me anything new here? OF COURSE I KNOW THAT, THAT'S HOW THEY WORK !!!! As one progresses further with it, you stop needing the paraphernalia and the rituals. Because your subconscious mind has adjusted to the point where your mindset is completely geared towards providing your every need. That is the general idea behind it all. Novices may be impressed by the idea of magickal forces and entities, but those of us who enjoy thinking know rather better. -- * 83. #61: Probably the sense of specialness you mentioned in #60. Plus if your independently arrived at conclusions about life happen to harmonise with it, why not sign up? -- * 84. #60: It is slightly annoying, but common to all religions. Most Christians display it to a marked degree. As do many Jews. Not so common with others. -- * 85. I'm sorry that I've missed out on this list for so long, and I'm sure that Jinxster is sorry now that I've found it. But please allow me to add my comments. No harm in a little discussion, eh? Lord Kalhoun I -- * 86. #67: Carpenter, actually. And "Taoism" is the correct transliteration, although it does sound like a D. Lord Kalhoun I -- * 87. Now, perhaps I am an unusual Christian, but rituals have never been a part of my experience beyond childhood bedtime prayers -- no candles, no crossing myself, etc. Lord Kalhoun I -- * 88. It astonishes me how much most people, and indeed (sadly) most Christians themselves, misunderstand Christ and His religion. He came not to bind and accuse, but to heal and love. Lord Kalhoun I -- * 89. But above all, He came to set us free. "The truth shall set you free," He said, and till my last breath I will seek truth. Lord Kalhoun I -- * 90. I'm glad to see, however, the discussion (however heated it may become at times) on this list, because that means that all of you are also seeking for the truth -- and I love you for it. Lord Kalhoun I -- lordkalhoun@usa.net * 91. Now, from what I've seen on this list, l0de, Heather Angel, ReedMan, and Jinxster are all from differing viewpoints, but none professes Christian beliefs. I am here, therefore, as His representative. Lord Kalhoun I -- lordkalhoun@usa.net * 92. #70: Not only will evolution not work without God's influence, neither can the creation of the universe be explained without Him. How, to ask a simple question, can something come from nothing? Lord Kalhoun I -- lordkalhoun@usa.net * 93. Entropy, in time, will claim all organized energy from the universe; it will become a cold, desolate, uniform sludge. No matter that it may take quadrillions of years, it will happen. Lord Kalhoun I -- lordkalhoun@usa.net * 94. That being a rational truism, then (matter is not eternal), the universe must be of finite age -- if it were infinitely old, this would have happened long ago. An infinity ago, to be precise. Lord Kalhoun I -- lordkalhoun@usa.net * 95. If the universe is of finite age, therefore, there must have been a time when the universe did not exist -- when nothing existed. Something cannot come from nothing, therefore, something must have existed "before". Lord Kalhoun I -- lordkalhoun@usa.net * 96. This something must be eternal, or else created in turn by something eternal. There must be a beginning in eternity, for a thing is either eternal or not eternal, and if something is not eternal then it must have been created. Lord Kalhoun I -- lordkalhoun@usa.net * 97. So the origin of all things is eternal; timeless, if you will. Forgive me if I'm being a little wordy. Lord Kalhoun I -- lordkalhoun@usa.net * 98. Perhaps you are thinking that my argument is eternal? Lord Kalhoun I -- lordkalhoun@usa.net * 99. Anyway, what is this eternal "thing", which must, by definition, exist, and which has created the universe? I put it to you. Lord Kalhoun I -- lordkalhoun@usa.net * 100. Obviously this "thing" need not be God by any definition, but I would like to hear your responses. Lord Kalhoun I -- lordkalhoun@usa.net * 101. Zzzzzzz...Oh, you're done? Well I...um...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. -- * 102. #87: I think that aspect of it is restricted to Catholics. I have no idea of your specific denomination but I think you're Protestant, yes? Jinxster -- * 103. #93: From death comes rebirth. How do you know the entire process of creation/life will not restart after? I think the possibility should be kept in mind. Jinxster -- * 104. #100 (or whatever Kalhoun's last entry was; I'm not scrolling all the way back down there again): Yes, there is a creator god or Great Spirit. Where else would the universe come from, and more importantly why? Out of all the theories on the universe's existence I've heard, all those not involving a creator don't even begin to fill the gaps. I don't disagree with some sort of intelligence behind the world, just the various forms it takes with regards to us. Jinxster -- * 105. #102: Neither, actually; I'm from the Brethren in Christ, which is a small Anabaptist denomination (related to Mennonites and Amish, if you can believe it). But it's as close to Protestantism as Orthodoxy is to Roman Catholicism, say. Lord Kalhoun I -- * 106. #103: A new source of energy and organization will be needed for that to occur. According to the second law of thermodynamics, entropy increases in the aggregate (that is, universe-wide) over time. Lord Kalhoun I -- * 107. Because the universe, defined simply as "all that is", is a closed system by definition, no possible outside source of energy can exist. For life to come from death requires a new source of life to begin with. Lord Kalhoun I -- * 108. #104: "The various forms it takes"... you mean the various conceptions of God or the life force that people have? I disagree with most of them too, including a lot held by many Christians. Lord Kalhoun I -- * 109. As pagan and lurker I was going to weigh in to the whole debate that has been raging above when I realized one very scary thing... -- * 110. #80 Has got to be one of the funniest things I have ever seen in my life, esp. coming from Mandeer and a perfect slogan for the 90's!! -- * 111. That said : yer all wrong, I have proof, but I'm not going to show you ... besides, I'm late to go home from work -- * 112. Oh 'eck there I go not signing things again Bozo the Clown -- bozodclown@ring.ling.bros.com Started by: angrywhitemale () Started on: Tue Sep 15 16:35:50 1998