*** Log file opened: 8/1/97 7:38:59 PM DrillMstr [~rill.mast@230.dallas-010.tx.dial-access.att.net] has joined #martial DrillMstr bows deeply to Master X, keeper of the sacred channel DrillMstr bows into the #martial dojo DrillMstr studies Dai Ni-Gojuryu Karate and TKD DrillMstr: hello! No one in your notify list is on IRC X: AUTHENTICATION SUCCESSFUL ON #martial! X sets mode: +o DrillMstr Kaze: You have 2 notes waiting on Kaze. Kaze: For a list, /MSG Kaze NOTES [pass] INDEX <_Tas_> Hey there4 DrillMstr 1:) ugh.. _Tas_ = Taekwondo, 9 years <_Tas_> ugh? <_Tas_> ant, where are u and what is your style? um? what is with the topic?? bbiab i am in pa... northern shaolin kung fu... Martman [~jgrey@pm120.spots.ab.ca] has quit IRC (Write error to Martman[pm120.spots.ab.ca], closing link) <_Tas_> pa? <_Tas_> ? <_Tas_> huh? pennsylvania Gauzzer [Gauz@sl86.tznet.com] has joined #martial Gauz [Gauz@206.31.5.119] has quit IRC (Write error to Gauz[206.31.5.119], closing link) Gauzzer is now known as Gauz <_Tas_> wb gauz ISP dumped me someone wanna tell me about the topic or not?? <_Tas_> topic needs to be changed.... <_Tas_> 20 mins <_Tas_> :) <_Tas_> ant, at 8pm cdt i think <_Tas_> = 1 pm for me :) cdt??? <_Tas_> we are to discuss how to make the channel better, any ideas etc ant a meeting in here about the channel and what people think of it or ideas they have oh ok:) <_Tas_> in 20 mins, okay? DrillMstr changes topic to "Meeting for all #martial users (1 Aug 97 at 8 pm Central)" <_Tas_> u figure your own time :) <_Tas_> lol _Tas_ has the time as 3 12:40:066,3 Saturday6,3 02/08/97 BAD` [~badboy@tserver2-9.durham.net] has joined #martial hello <_Tas_> Hey there4 BAD` 1:) Kaze sets mode: +o Gauz it helps ME remember when it is :) Gauz changes topic to "Meeting for all #martial users (1 Aug 97 at 8 pm Central) ......20 minutes" <_Tas_> :) even better Wolfen_ [electra@client82bc.globalnet.co.uk] has joined #martial Hi guys :) BAD` [~badboy@tserver2-9.durham.net] has left #martial <_Tas_> welcome wolf :) hi Tas _Tas_ runs over and hugs Wolfen_ Mascotte is on IRC 1,8:) <_Tas_> 4,8:) _Tas_ runs around the room causing general havoc, pulling hair, poking ribs, teasing, sneezing on, tripping, etc, because Bloodmane said to :) 1,9:) how do you do that? so anyhow i was watching ufc for the first time this afternoon, and um... grapplers make for um... strange long sort of boring mtaches... matches <_Tas_> do what? <_Tas_> colour? yeah <_Tas_> ctrl k, then a number 1-15, then type <_Tas_> 1one 2two 3three 4four 5five 6six 7seven 8eight 9nine 10ten 11eleven 12twelve 13thirteen 14fourteen 15fifteen 8:) <_Tas_> 4like this was ctrl k 4 hrue <_Tas_> 10and ten i cant get colours <_Tas_> y not ant? 1,8:) 8,8 Wolfen Loves Colour :)! 3,8 Wolfen Loves Colour :) 1,1! 8,8 Wolfen Loves Colour :) 1,1! 0,0 1,1 Wolfen Loves Colour :)! i dont know... all i see is numbers Mascotte [sharonv@engine8p10.maltanet.net] has joined #martial Mascotte bows in hooray for mascotte my favorite. :) 3cool! hello ant :) DrillMstr sets mode: +o Mascotte hello hello!!! how goes the win tsun? Hi Mascotte wot no Blood?? hmm WT's great heheheheh cool! it's the training before which gets me every time ;)- hello wolf :) great... mas have you learned any forms yet? Gauz changes topic to "Meeting for all #martial users (1 Aug 97 at 8 pm Central) ......15 minutes" Mascotte changes topic to "Meeting for all #martial users Friday Aug 1st at 8 pm CDT. please attend. (http://www.martial.net)" Mascotte: -#martial- 7tH §p|-|ê®é Topic Protection! <_Tas_> brb (10 mins....) _Tas_ [mheeney@port84.ham.ihug.co.nz] has left #martial let's see....we did 4 or 5 blocks, front kick, and the wrist lock pak, guan, fuk, tan sao nice, the one where your thumbs go on the back of the hand??? bong next time not the thumbs, the oputer edge of the palm outer, even wow, we use the thumbs , maybe it is a different lock.... locks are great Martman [~jgrey@pm130.spots.ab.ca] has joined #martial TimOPod [Bendric@user-38lc382.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #martial what are you talking about? TimOPod [Bendric@user-38lc382.dialup.mindspring.com] has quit IRC (Leaving) it's one of the self protection bits....where someone grabs you from your wrist Hi Martman Hi Tim sour, wing tchun Bendrik [Bendric@user-38lc382.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #martial joint locks..... mascotte you do chin na jointlocking right?? oh ok mascotte i was thinking of another one... Bendrik is now known as TimOPod do you sort of trap there hand and then with the arm they have a hold of bring the ouside of your hand over there wrist and press sorta down?? inchworming will get you out of a bearhug reach around grab. ant:sounds liek a jujuitsu hold i do yup you either press down till they release, or hold their arm, and go for jab Dragonfst [~pirch@t1-124.EbiCom.Net] has joined #martial Mascotte sets mode: +v Dragonfst sorry, don't know that Dragonfst soars into the room and roars a mighty TANSU greeting to all !!! Hi Dragonfst brb hi wolfen Wolfen_ is now known as WolfenAFK hey drill TimOPod [Bendric@user-38lc382.dialup.mindspring.com] has quit IRC (Leaving) hey mascotte :0 hi Dragon :) TimOPod [palace@user-38lc382.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #martial mascotte i like that one but i am not so good at it... and all the rest :) DrillMstr sets mode: +v WolfenAFK helo dragn, heard you were in a good bit of sparring ;) DrillMstr sets mode: -v WolfenAFK yep :) i should have gone to class tonight.... it was free time and i could have gotten help with my chin na.... quite intense u musta been talkin to blood :) yup, same ol'd ;) hehe - what my tansu brother say behind my back ? Taran [jrams@war-mi12-01.ix.netcom.com] has joined #martial ant:our chin-na in trouble, sounds personal Meetin today, eh? heheheh TimOPod is now known as doPOmiT and where is he EVEN !!!!!!! _Tas_ [mheeney@port84.ham.ihug.co.nz] has joined #martial <_Tas_> Yo!!4 Taran 1buddy! Dragonfst roars a mighty TANSU welcome to _Tas_ Dragonfst roars a mighty TANSU welcome to Taran Hey Kiwi :) <_Tas_> dragon! <_Tas_> long time no see yo tas ! Sabumnim wanted me to pass this along [18:18] please pass on that I was inquiring and I think that this channel is very important and like the way alot of info is passed around,,,and some fun oops sorry ppl yep ant-egg roars a mighty TANSU welcome to himself:( ant:tansudo? <_Tas_> lol ant _Tas_ runs over and hugs ant-egg Dragonfst roars a mighty TANSU welcome to ant-egg no.. i just felt left out. BlakEagle [Somewhere@p9-inv.es.co.nz] has joined #martial ant-egg hugs back thats the way its done :) <_Tas_> there u are blak :) HAPPY B'DAY TAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WolfenAFK is now known as Wofen _Tas_ is now known as Fizban lol u were already here when i got here - ant :) happy birfday to you so did i miss the meeting Yet?????????? I'm not catching a lot of htis happy birfday to you :) Dragonfst roars a mighty TANSU welcome to BlakEagle Wofen is now known as Wolfen_ happy _birf_day dear TAS oh how busy for our meeting! happy birfday to you :) ant-egg is now known as brainold back again... god it's late Fizban is now known as _Tas_ it is ur b/d - tas ? <_Tas_> :) <_Tas_> thanks dude :) doPOmiT is now known as TimOPod _Tas_ = 24 in 1 hr 5 minutes lol X sets mode: +o TimOPod No one is counting i see tee heee hee funny hehe - HAPPY BIRTHDAY TAS !!!!!!!!!!! 4,4 Happy Birthday Tas :)! 0,4 Happy Birthday Tas :) 1,1! 4,4 Happy Birthday Tas :) 1,1! 0,0 1,1 Happy Birthday Tas :)! <_Tas_> :) Must be a Ops for his present guys Happy birthday Kiwi :) _Tas_ hugs Dragonfst _Tas_ runs over and hugs Wolfen_ :) _Tas_ runs around the room, giving everyone a quick hug Kaze has kicked _Tas_ from #martial (flood) who has birth day ops _Tas_ [mheeney@port84.ham.ihug.co.nz] has joined #martial <_Tas_> back! <_Tas_> :) its bad to get kicked for hugging - huh ? <_Tas_> man, that kaze is tough.... <_Tas_> 10 Kiss my Bear 1BUTT10 Kaze 10:P~~~ <_Tas_> 5 ___ <_Tas_> 5 {' 5 `) <_Tas_> 5 ( 5 ) <_Tas_> 5 (/ 5 \) <_Tas_> 5 (__u__) Welcome back Kiwi :) <_Tas_> lol Its bad to flood like a f)(#king lamer. I like mine better: 0.5{'0...5`}0..12Kiss my 0..5(0...5)0.....12bear butt Err 0.5{'0...5`}0..12Kiss my 0..5(0...5)0.....12bear butt 0.5(/0...5\)0......12 Kiwi 0.5(__1u5__) <_Tas_> o, not the lamer thing again.... foo king lamer - some kinda chinese dish ? taran:naughty naughty thought that was a no no we had a resturant near her calle dfoo king resturant right is it game on time? <_Tas_> mart, you = lamer stuff before? o boy _Tas_ has the time as 3 13:05:286,3 Saturday6,3 02/08/97 <_Tas_> we are late :) <_Tas_> k, discuss my clock says the same tas where is Bloodmane ?!?! <_Tas_> 1st idea.... no calling Tas a lamer :) <_Tas_> motion passed by me time for meeting DrillMstr: *x* status <_Tas_> anyone wanna second it? X: Channel: #martial has 17 users (6 operators) X: Mode is: +tn X: MassDeopPro: 3 NickFloodPro: 5 FloodPro: 7 X: NoOp: OFF AlwaysOp: ON OpOnly: OFF StrictOp: OFF AutoTopic: OFF X: Default language is: english X: Channel has been idle for 239 seconds irc offical tile 9:03 ok LMAO!!!!!!! <_Tas_> anyone? econd me and Tas Are now Ops!!! <_Tas_> taran buddy? seconded U need good kiwi Oops!! err time cant rule out any possibilities tas :) U need good kiwi Ops!! <_Tas_> lol blak lol since we don't have that many. we will stay unmoderated unless we get more ppl here. Yep Tas? <_Tas_> i would be happy with a + hallo? <_Tas_> taran, say u second no calling me a lamer :) chill tas - da man is talking :) same here!! Errr, isn't it 8:00? BlakEagle Loves a Voice mar:not east coast No callin Tas a lamer, that's an order <_Tas_> :) _Tas_ runs over and hugs Taran no callign anyone a name <_Tas_> lol bye! <_Tas_> bye sour _Tas_ waves bye-bye bye sour martial artest should be able to atleast not revert to childish name calling (you lamers) Taran hugs Tas back, anytime buddy ok. is everyone ready? <_Tas_> lol TimOpod: what time is it east coast? _Tas_ is ready!!! <_Tas_> :) DrillMstr: *x* status yep X: Channel: #martial has 17 users (6 operators) X: Mode is: +tn X: MassDeopPro: 3 NickFloodPro: 5 FloodPro: 7 X: NoOp: OFF AlwaysOp: ON OpOnly: OFF StrictOp: OFF AutoTopic: OFF X: Default language is: english X: Channel has been idle for 439 seconds lol 9:07 hmm nice meeting <_Tas_> lol brain if you wanan know time, type /time <_Tas_> come on ppl.... organize! <_Tas_> :) it'll tell you your local irc time course it;s the 24 hour clock ok. please let's get under way Drill, may I suggest that you begin your meeting? TimOPod: ok how much longer then? brainold is so hungfry wait we have had complaints that there is not enough martial arts talk in the channel... theres no rush it will start when it starts no sooner, no later i would like to know what you all think as to how we are running the channel Tim, let Drill run his meeting. taran:sure sure, just trying to be helpful:> how can we make it better ? Change prioritys drill - for the most part i enjoy #martial very much its not going to happen. drill:i think the problem is, some times the channel has soo ew people in it, thats martial talk isn't really all that fun You can't force people to talk about something. i think you run the channel fine, but i am not on all that often anymore... i think, that if someone is complaining about there not being enough martial arts talk, all they have to do is mention a topic, or whatever, and everyone is happy to talk about it... the only thing i dont like is when someone seriously disrespects others - and i dont mean just jokin around Sour [traveler@207.241.60.252] has quit IRC (Chicago-R.IL.US.Undernet.org Chicago.IL.US.Undernet.org) _Tas_ tries not to disrespect, just havin' fun.... well Dragon that is what the ops are for to deal with that sort of thing Dragon, the ops are supposed to try and keep that kind of behavior to a minimum yeah sometimes people do act pretty crappy, mostly towards people with styl;es that the other might not think is so good... Not true. There was a time in #Martial when even if there were 5 ppl in channel there was good conversation. We almost never have fewer than 8 i could name some names....hehehe:) i'm on here basicly al the time Taran so your saying MA talk all the time??? alot of the time hteres only me and 1 or 2 others dont get me wrong - i dont want dictatorship - or even ppl kicked - just some warnings on occasion maybe heheh, create a new channel. F0CUS [Cyclon@nyc-ny29-16.ix.netcom.com] has joined #martial #nonmartialchat :-) Nimue [~stinger@orem-pm3-1-1.inquo.net] has joined #martial X sets mode: +o Nimue r hi hello sis meet;s in session I'm saying this channel was made for the free exchange of MA information and it has turned into this "MA Social Club" i think that if people have topics to talk about in martial arts, they will be talked about, otherwize... if no-one is instigating martial conversations, what do people expect? did I miss the meeting? why tiger hello. I'm saying this channel was more popular and more enjoyable when it had a purpose and a future i think the gatheing of martial artest with common inturest is more important then the actualy talk of the arts all the time _Tas_ cheers for brain _Tas_ cheers for timO Nimue is now known as whitiger Heya whitiger!!!!!! this is (after all irc) you can't force anyone too doo anything, but if handled correctly, you can do some wonderful things what is wrong with a ma social club hello everyone.......... Gauz walks up to Tim and shakes his hand :) Mascotte: your the personnel person, how have the numbers been recently compared to 6 months or a year ago? _Tas_ likes ma social, and the topic discussions X changes topic to "Meeting for #martial users : in session" That isn't what this channel is founded for, that isn't what this channel is about. This is #Martial. This is not #MAsocialclub. This is the Virtual Dojo. The respect shown to each other here should be the respect you would show in a Dojo we get instruction at our classes - and if someone asks a direct question - it is usually answered - if there is not a topic concerning martial arts that put forth for conversation, people arent just gonna sit here and say like: "punch, kick, jointlock", just so they can be talking all martial all the time Taran you saying everyone should be forced to talk MA or get out??? Maybe the problem is that the channel is getting too big and too commercial. ppl have increased uite abit they find it fun to talk in here, and can talk MA when they feel like i dont' think the founding of something should always dictate the future uite = quite ? how can the channel get too commercial? as you all know, i'm not a fan of confusious thought anyway Gauz shakes Tims hand again :) yew - that is true mascotte ys yes - i mean hehe... Gauz, I'm saying that if you're here you should be trying to participate in the conversation. What other reason do you join a chanel but to participate in the conversation? First of all, you should get rid of those annoying automated greetings. Second you should stop the flooding. I think the point of a channel such as this should be pretty clear ... it is a place where people interested in or actively participating in MA , for however long be it 6 months or 16 years can come together and learn from each other I mean, who wants to read the same "blah blha blah bows to blah blah blah" as often as anything good. It sometimes seems like there are more greets and useless crap than actual conversation. it is a unique opportunity, to be able to gain access to such a wide and diverse mixture of MA backgrounds you know, the monks in japan have a saying "he stinks of zen", the greek said to much of a god thing is bad BlakEagle scrolls i think these both apply right, wolfen, .... also, if you go into a channel, say, um #teenchat, you dont expect them to be talking about being a teen all the time, they are there because they have a common bond... taz [Taz014@clw233055.gte.net] has joined #martial err good thing bbl taran - when ppl come on they do participate in the convo - and if they have a question not pertaining to the present convo - they ask - F0CUS [Cyclon@nyc-ny29-16.ix.netcom.com] has quit IRC (As one I'll meet the mortal memories reliving seeking silence.) no problem _Tas_ is now known as Tas hi tiger AGAIN~!!!!! absolutely the wisdom that is imparted through the learning process of MA is usefull in everyday life Mystress [horner@slip129-37-208-68.oh.us.ibm.net] has joined #martial Mas: There are alot LESS users here now than a year ago. A year ago you could come into this channel every night and have 15 ppl talking MA in channel. rite - brainold - about the bond - !!!!!!! Dragonfst roars a mighty TANSU welcome to Mystress Mystress bows to 3 all Martman: we are not supposed to be using auto greets anymore. Mystress has practiced aikijutsu for 2 years, and kenpo for 1 year...beware the bokken! MYSTRESS !!!!! Hi Mystress LONG TIME NO SEEE ! hey DrAG!!! Wolfen_ bows to mystress (see I remembered) ;) hey wolf!!! hello Mystress ;) does it mater how many people are here, as long as thoese here are enjoying it okay...down to business... yeah - mart - whats the diff in an outo greet - and sayin hello ? good point tim ! Tas cheers for timO Dragonfst: one is highly annoying. brb to whom - it doesnt bother me ! please don't greet during the meeting. i will moderate it if need be Dragonfst: thats because YOU are highly annoying:) The difference is, now you can come in here anytime and find a few ppl here talking about nothing related to MA greet ppl personally, the whole room with an alias no big deal understood Dragonfst roars a mighty TANSU welcome to _Tas_ lemme put it in terms befitting the channel I do feel however that there is alot of "My styles better than your style" biccering goes on and that does get in the way of reasonable conversation Dragonfst roars a mighty TANSU welcome to Taran I mean, what is that shit? the more people the better, the wider "library" of martial arts styles becomes that everyone can access, if some one has a serious question, no one is gonna deny them the answer, or if they have a serious topic, the same applies... I call that annoying. do you wish d do 100 katas once, or one kata 100 times? it is the same as hello ! wax on, tim But yet .... Styles Bickering Does Start Great Convo what is the diff. in that and - so and so bows to whomever mys:waxin away ;) which MANY do I agree With brain not really Black Every night, a year ago, there was good, interesting conversation Dragonfst: exactly, both are annoying. No, it doesn't matter how many ppl are here as long as they are discussion MA i too agree with brain taran:things change, thats ho the universe works brainold [~nine@204.171.126.125] has quit IRC (Leaving) taran...believe it or not...i was on here when it first got started 2 years ago...with Kyoshi Dragonfist: if you want to say high to someone, just say hi, don't make everyone suffer by having to watch your lame greeting. it doesnt' mattter if they are talkign amrtrial arts, as long as there is always a williness to disscus the arts Tas is still pondering the 100 katas bit.... it was my first time on IRC and #martial was still strugglin for ppl lol Tas you can't moniter the channel 24/7 lame - is ur opinion - which u have the rite to - as i do mine Pungent [pungent@anp-as5s20.erols.com] has joined #martial Tim is Right U cant tim: Kaze can!! ;) a dojo is more then a school were one learns fighting, rght? DrillMstr sets mode: +m ok my:kaze isn;t sentient, he no count now we have some comments out there again ur opinion mart :) Pungent [pungent@anp-as5s20.erols.com] has left #martial DrillMstr sets mode: -v Dragonfst so we have several ppl saying ... that it doesn't matter as long as we meet here in the spirit of M A MA ok so how many of you feel it needs to be all MA (other than Taran)? oss DrillMstr sets mode: -m Gwydion [jrams@war-mi12-01.ix.netcom.com] has joined #martial DrillMstr *Gwydion* we will be in moderated mode for the meeting. Only text entered by people with @ or + by their name will be seen. /msg op if you have a comment and it will be posted in the order it was received. sprry taran :) sorry even i do not nor i But can we agree on what the true spirit of MA is? that's a toughie mart i think it's yes or no now Dont Get into that MartMan it is different to diff ppl and i vote the spirit counts, not the talk Martman: i doubt it. everyone has different beliefs of it BlakEagle: why not? to not disrespect, to openly discuss topics/ideas/questions if they are there.... IMHO it's knowing that nobody's art is better/worse than anybody else's Cause it is a Age Old Debate !!! that hasnt Stopped not i or if you really think so...keep it to yourself!!! ;) tim has a good poing point Mystress: what if you don't believe that though? No i dont agree then pick a fight via msging lol LOL hang on or calmly support your art in the main channel...whatever i wanna join in that fight!!! um, lets ge this vote, then move on I think Tas has the best option lol um me? so how many of you feel it needs to be all MA (other than Taran)? I agree With Tas !!! I do It should be all MA. me? :) not me!!! nor i not me it's an MA channel, anyway... Bottom line: In my opinion we need to go back to our "roots" as it were. Go back to what made this channel great. If you want an MA social club, find a new channel. isn' isn't that good enuff? Gwydion nods, yep, most ppl don't agree with me on that anymore. so this is not #masocial, nor is it#strictlyMAtalkonlynothingelse :) lol happy medium!!! Pungent [pungent@anp-as5s20.erols.com] has joined #martial DrillMstr *Pungent* we will be in moderated mode for the meeting. Only text entered by people with @ or + by their name will be seen. /msg op if you have a comment and it will be posted in the order it was received. Taran pings the channel! so Taran, when you go to train, you do not talk to the other students ? Gwydion: I agree with you. so it is social have certain time slots for dead serious MA discussion...other random times for random talk If you want to talk non-ma why not take it private? you just go in there, only MA is done and talked about and you get out? Unless people here don't know how to /msg or /dcc chat look how many ppl met here tonight for THIS discussion So, drill, when you go to train, do you JUST talk to the other students? we all forgetting something here I think that this should be a place where ppl can come and ask questions... get oppinions.... talk about the arts... but i dont think it should be strictly MA... This Use to be a place fun to come too... a place where anyone was welcome... whether they studied or not.... I have NO idea what happend Pungent [pungent@anp-as5s20.erols.com] has left #martial DrillMstr: do you talk loud enough for everyone in your class to hear when you socialize at your school? to not disrespect, to openly discuss topics/ideas/questions if they are there....? MA is Part of Everything in Our Lives!! amen, whitiger no i don't. i believe there is a time for serious ma talk and a time for friendship i think there needs to be shades of grey, not black and white DrillMstr: what it comes down to is that people not involved in a social conversation shouldnt' have to put up with listenting to others discuss their sex life:) thank you Mystress!!!! if someone wants to talk ma now all they have to do is begin the conversation Mystress has no sex life, so she's excused!!! ;) sex has no place in the arts and others will follow (snicke snicker) [magnum} [cuvas@dialup38.cbnet.ns.ca] has joined #martial DrillMstr *[magnum}* we will be in moderated mode for the meeting. Only text entered by people with @ or + by their name will be seen. /msg op if you have a comment and it will be posted in the order it was received. poor myst :) drill:right! I mean, most conversations here aren't too enlightening to most people in the way of MA. Drill: But how often is the conversation here like it was in the Glory Days of #Martial? Tas cheers for drill Most conversation isn't even relevant to most people on the channel. X sets mode: +o [magnum} Gwydion: how far back are you thinking? Mystress was here in the "glory days" of #martial gwy:what glory days, wy onyl look to the past mmmm, Mikes Hard Lemonade. heheh. 2 years ago...we still had light-hearted talk, too Mystress: I was on #kungfu back then:) Mystress: efnet #kungfu. Yes, but now we are luck to still have MA talk Taran [jrams@war-mi12-01.ix.netcom.com] has quit IRC (Ping timeout for Taran[war-mi12-01.ix.netcom.com]) when we have a lot of ppl here that have been here for a long time ma talk will be down because there is only so much of anything that anyone can talk about continuously isnt MA a way of life????? gotcha...#aikido is another haunt o' mine Gwydion: no doubt..If I want to hear how some stranger's day has been I'll go join #chat. so does that mean all i do is MA all day long all life??? if you want ma talk all the time then we have to start kicking out oldtimers and getting fresh blood in here gauz:in a way, i supose and i don't think that is what anyone wants what about sharing stories about MA? like "A funny thing happened on the way to the dojo...?" is that too unserious??? I agree Drill....... i said that beofore Gauz!!!!!!!!!!!1 Yes it is!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mystress: if its related to MA, fine. Mystress: but I see no need for irrelevant useless chatter. Drill, not so, I'm an "Old Timer" and it seems to me some of the new blood needs to be kicked out if you want Serious MA talk when someone new comes in I for one try to talk ma with them who's to decide what's irrelevant and useless? I feel this has reached a conclusion ... anyone got a topic / question Great Point Mys!!! Gwydion: YEAH! All I'm saying is if you are here, you should want to talk about something at least REMOTELY related to MA do we need to establish definite ma talk periods? <[magnum}> We have to be open to talk of our lives, it will always come around to MA, MA is not hockey it is a way of life. when someone new - to me - comes on i always ask what ma they are into no Drill Gwydion: yep, you've got it. i think that talking about blisters on my feet from the rug at the dojo is relevant sometimes...whaddya think about THAT? It is !!! if ma conversation insues there after - great !!! no drill my:i goot terrible blisters when i ffirst started Mag and Gauz and me are the only ones with our heads screwed on right now :P no laws taran we should all be here because of that but there is more to it than MA MA MA seee....convo starter!!! ;) this is a place where contacts can be made no mater what you say, you can't always moderate this channel no definite times, we can't cos of time zones Drill, sure there is more than MA, but for that you have MSG windows and other channels. If this is a MA channel, it should be about MA chat. right on Tim hehehe thanc blak This is a channel about Martial Arts, if you don't want to discuss that, no one is telling you to be here but we can try to keep talk re MA in peak times MA IS A WAY OF LIFE THOU err.thanx taran, then if we only talk ma... I don't come here to hear or chat about non-MA stuff. Theres a thousand other channels I can go to for that. if the only thing we say in channel is MA... taz [Taz014@clw233055.gte.net] has left #martial i dont; get kciked out of the dojo once class is over What's this talk about times? "All day everyday..#Martial" as I recall <[magnum}> Gwn what is MA chat, how do you narrow it down, I see MA as a way of life, all I do is around MA. do you think all they talk about in the white house is government??? no sometimes they talk about sports, love, etc...or else they would go CRAZY... then nothing will be said after a while because ppl will be in other channels being friendly i though martial arts wa a way to expand your horizns, not dwel on one thing agreed mystr !!! true drill Exactly Mag! BlakEagle Nods at Magnum!! yes drill and if nothing is said for long periods then ppl will begin to leave i agree hmmmmmmmmmm.........isnt the internet one of the last safe havens of freedom of speech????? hey mag ... we are bringing them to our side!! <[magnum}> Gauz, way to go..... mag...MA is a high priority in my life, too...just b/c sometimes i talk about other things doesn't mean i take it less seriously than you i note in the afternoon, me and one other might be hee, the talk is what ever we decid yes it is gauz right on GAuz!!!!! your side blak?.... which was that again? Who said you can't be friendly? Are we not friendly and respectful in the Dojo? DOn't you make friends there and 99% of the time involved in MA lol tas i make freinds everywhere, dojo or not good for you tim! the one that says Ma is a Way of Life! Tas cheers for timO good lord you take away peoples freedom to speak about whatever they want and you've screwed one of your greatest god given freedoms i also have other inturest other then karate, i'm not an otau of martial arts Wahhoooo wow, Gauz...you sound like a made-for-TV movie!!! Gauz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and ppl will leave the channel - for more democratic waters otaku i mean <[magnum}> this is why we can not limit our talk to just forms or any one aspect of MA, there are so many things that involve MA, my job is involved in MA. :P and that will be sad...don't wanna do that if everyone is away in msg land then newcomers come in - are ignored - then leave, never to return :-) true drill GAUZ - u are correct !! good point Drill if they see comeraderie happening then they will want to be a part of it nod drill, good point absolutely Drill This is a good chance to vent frustrations. yep Thats about it, I don't think anything will come of this meeting. nothing worse than a silent channel also, if all you talk is martial arts, that could turn some people of to the arts, thinking all artest ae compulsicve and egotisitcal Tas cheers for drill :) why don't we make an effort to stay on topic (with helpful hints from ops) and see how it goes from there? I have invited friends from other servers to the channel.... and have been sorely dissapointed when they are ignored when I am not around... and critisized for what they study..... Martman: sometimes it is good to vent. this is the first time we have tried this openness if everyone in the channel happens to me easy-going..the mood can do the same..and vice versa Tas cheers for myst All I'm saying is that if you come into channel and you're seeing ppl talk about nothing it's bullsh|t. You come into channel and you see talk about ANYTHING even remotely related to MA it's on the right track I agree With Mys!!!! <[magnum}> As for new comers, often they will feel more like asking questions if weare open to all talk, so they learn, we don't stiffel them..... go mag :) lol The channel is TOO easy going as it is today. There is a HUGE lack of respect compared to a year ago. gee wiz that's why we try to include newcomers into the convo by asking what style and such Mystress stiffens her upper lip i respect you Gwydion :) there is a saying "LIVE IN THE NOW!!!!!!!" Gwydion: indeed!! why is the past such a big thing, it's gone look to the future <[magnum}> maybe they feel a little shy about asking something, if we are so uptight they will never ask, and then never know. Tas: Ditto :) where is this huge lack of respect? and NEVER IN THE PAST Gwydion: I think only users more than 1 or 2 years old can understand these things. lack of respect for whom? confusious was wrong, ok, move on DrillMstr sets mode: +m ok so here is what i see the MAJORITY saying... keep it the way it is but try to talk more about MA but not ALL MA the major lack of respect I've seen isn't in fooling around, but in style bashing, which isn;t always clear to a newcomer whether it's all in joke or not here's what i have to say about the opposing side of that... <[magnum}> Mascotte, well done. if you aren't happy with the way the conversation is going... Gauz thinks Drill needs a gavel wav to play :P then turn the convo back towards M a MA now Pyron [WarHawk@m255-08.warwick.net] has joined #martial DrillMstr *Pyron* we will be in moderated mode for the meeting. Only text entered by people with @ or + by their name will be seen. /msg op if you have a comment and it will be posted in the order it was received. i would like to see everyone who comes here find what they are looking for in #martial but... you get out of it what you put into it if you put MA in you get MA out if you put friendliness in you get friendliness out if you put both in you get both out next subject is management the former owner of the channel who founded the channel left in February. He turned it over to me. He now wants it back. what is everyone' everyone's thoughts on this? <[magnum}> I stand with Drill. are we doing a good job for the most part? how can we make it better ? am i doing a poor job and do i need to turn it back to him or to someone else? X sets mode: +o Gwydion (going unmoderated) DrillMstr sets mode: -m Who was the former owner? I thin the cannel belongs to everyone who is here, no one persn "owns it", cause it's a virtual place, but managment wise, yes, we've donefine, and i think the people high up in managment are doing fine to Drill you're doing fine Gwydion sets mode: -o Gwydion Kyoshi i think u are doing a good jop drill - no one can please all Kyoshi, Guro, Kaijin Kyoshi...hmmm. we here at the Triad Cult Think that It should be given to the Flame God Oh yeah! I remember him:) he Goes by the Aliases Fire_Hawk and Flamesaw Well, I really don't care about it. I think DrillMstr does as good a job as anyone. But we Need a Reg Owner Guys ... undernet Demands it he is also the Sexiest man Alive I dont Know the Old One ... Hail Fire Hawk Hail Fire Hawk!!!!! Personally, I feel the channel has changed tremendously since Guro left. For the worse, imho Sooooo I say Stick with DrillMstr!!!!!!!!! ... U have done a Good Job Mate ... Congrads! pur:silliness is not called for yeet he is my god you must give him Ops when he apears why can't Drill and Rick run the channel??? is this america or what??? my Sister is Madly In Love with FlameSaw Gydion: hmmm.. no it isn't clariol [~Mountie@pm010.specent.com] has joined #martial DrillMstr *clariol* we will be in moderated mode for the meeting. Only text entered by people with @ or + by their name will be seen. /msg op if you have a comment and it will be posted in the order it was received. I don't htink the problem is with DrillMstr, its with the other new ops. THe wrong people have gotten ops. Myst:I think Flamesaw should be given ops in this since he is a God He is my Leader This was Guro's channel, aways has been, aways will be. If he wants to come back there should be no arguement Heya clariol!!!!!!!!! he has shown me the Path of El Oscuro pyron:umm, try to be serious please he has helped me and many people through times of darkness hey clariol ! !! That isnt the question he is putting at us thou Martman!!! :) we need a Reg Owner!! when was the last time tis guru was here clariol!!! hey!! And I say Leave it as it is!! Hi all :) Tim: Last weekend hands up for drill.... make the old one a high level Op and thats it gwyd:has he been doing as much work as drill i'd rather not see this channel split...like some civil war...we're better than that Tas raises both hands and a foot DrillMstr: *x* modinfo #martial access Taran 100 X: New ACCESS for taran is 100 BlakEagle: well if its his responsibility that these people received ops, so therefore if thats the case maybe we should have Guro back. Tim: Actually, I think he's been doing more work than Drill To true Mys! what about compromise?? gwy:lately? FlameSaw [FlameGod@m255-08.warwick.net] has joined #martial DrillMstr *FlameSaw* we will be in moderated mode for the meeting. Only text entered by people with @ or + by their name will be seen. /msg op if you have a comment and it will be posted in the order it was received. i have neever seen him on Along with other things, I think I would rather have Guro back. Flame Saw is here This channel ran very, very well with Rick running it. It seems to have backed up since then Yes Tim ITS Flame saw Hello GOD Then you really don't know what you're talking about do you Tim? Pyron:Your too kind no you are my God gwy:no, i do, and i don't remebr insulting you ether really your a little to kind yes...he is too kind I think he should be given ops Now your Talking High Priest no offense Flame...it's just that you're not an ...um ...god...;) He's Promoted me!!!! <[magnum}> Gwndion, I belive Tim does, and Drill is doing a very good job, if not we would have such a good MA channel. As soon as you start handing out ops to people who kiss ass, the channel goes down the tubes. i think i need to use a four leter word, stop Rick always did well by this channel. He founded it, he ran it well. Since he left, alot of ppl that should have not been given Opz have been given Opz and the channel is falling apart. oh I salute thee I'm not worthy I'm not Worthy gwyd:it's doign fine, i'm here everyday, no problems so that means your not accepting the position I'm going to kick pyron, ok folks? no of course not Mag: We had a far better MA channel before Rick left. This is just a shell of the channel it was. I Gladdly accept gwyd - and u are all knowing about who should be an op !?!? okay Tim!!! I liek this channel go tim I think drill (altho i admitt i dunno what he does) is doing great I say it stays as it Is!!! TimOPod has kicked Pyron from #martial (to much is to much) i again stand with drill Pyron [WarHawk@m255-08.warwick.net] has joined #martial DrillMstr *Pyron* we will be in moderated mode for the meeting. Only text entered by people with @ or + by their name will be seen. /msg op if you have a comment and it will be posted in the order it was received. Tas cheers for drill to stay :) Dragon, I'm stating my opinions Gwydion is your problem the fact that you don't have ops? JuShin [hss@dal43-12.ppp.iadfw.net] has joined #martial DrillMstr *JuShin* we will be in moderated mode for the meeting. Only text entered by people with @ or + by their name will be seen. /msg op if you have a comment and it will be posted in the order it was received. <[magnum}> why do you call it a shell, explain? heya ju 2 HOwdy all Ju!!! Mascotte sets mode: +v JuShin Hi Jushin Dragonfst: stop kissing ass so you can get ops. Mascotte sets mode: -v JuShin Wolfen, I am an Op, alright? i dont want ops i thnk somepeopel look to the past, i prefer the future Dragonfst: its because of individuals like you that this channel is like shit. if kissing ass is how you get ops i'll never get em!! :) so whats the big deal about i also dont want a dictatorship Martman: I agree this isn't a dictatorship again - ur opinion martman mart...i thought there was a language rule on this channel...and an attitude guidE!!!1 no it is not tim - Dragonfst: is that all you can say? Pyron [WarHawk@m255-08.warwick.net] has quit IRC (I'm Not Worthy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) thats why i like it as is :) Mystress: yeah, another problem ist that this channel has become so ANAL. Tim: I'll tell you one thing, this channel ran alot better as a Monarchy That was my Own Person Gwydion, if you haven't been happy with things then why the hell haven't you done anything about it? I've put you in a position to make a difference so i don't think you have anything to complain about FlameSaw was Pyron Its called Self Worship :) oh man - the king of anal - is calling some else that gwy:monarchy are inherintly flawed, so i dout it Mystress: That's one of the things that have changed. Swearing is allowed if he doens't like it here, then why is he her now? FlameSaw [FlameGod@m255-08.warwick.net] has quit IRC (Bye Bye Cruel World) DrillMstr sets mode: +m ok here rather as far as our rules go... X sets mode: +o Gwydion Drill: I've tryed to make changes and have been fought the whole way ok Gwydion DrillMstr: *x* modinfo access Taran 5 X: New ACCESS for taran is 5 DrillMstr: *x* modinfo autoop Taran off X: AUTOOP for taran is OFF DrillMstr: *x* deop Gwydion X sets mode: -o Gwydion now back to the rules i have instructed the ops to allow some of what goes on here.... because ppl felt things were too strict before we were losing ppl because of it so the one rule we have is to not show anyone or any style any disrespect Mystress [horner@slip129-37-208-68.oh.us.ibm.net] has quit IRC (Ping timeout for Mystress[slip129-37-208-68.oh.us.ibm.net]) MsDill [~picklej@slip166-72-91-242.va.us.ibm.net] has joined #martial DrillMstr *MsDill* we will be in moderated mode for the meeting. Only text entered by people with @ or + by their name will be seen. /msg op if you have a comment and it will be posted in the order it was received. if language is in a convo but is not attacking anyone then why break up the conversation because of it? TimOPod [palace@user-38lc382.dialup.mindspring.com] has quit IRC (Leaving) sometimes lately it has gotten out of hand some of the ops have made poor decisions TimOPod [palace@user-38lc382.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #martial DrillMstr *TimOPod* we will be in moderated mode for the meeting. Only text entered by people with @ or + by their name will be seen. /msg op if you have a comment and it will be posted in the order it was received. that's what i'm here for... to try and keep things running smooth if I or anyone of the ops are not doing a good job then I need to know about it Wolfen_ is now known as Wolfen if any of you are not happy with the rules then let me know X sets mode: +o TimOPod i will go by what the majority of the users say within reason of course (going unmoderated) DrillMstr sets mode: -m You don't have to disrupt conversation for language or any other problems. All problems should be handled in MSG thoughts? Nimue [stinger@orem-pm3-1-1.inquo.net] has joined #martial DrillMstr *Nimue* we will be in moderated mode for the meeting. Only text entered by people with @ or + by their name will be seen. /msg op if you have a comment and it will be posted in the order it was received. X sets mode: +o Nimue Anyway, I'm no longer an Op here, and just so everyone knows, I will, most likely not be returning to the channel. wb Num!! sorry wb Nim!! <[magnum}> Gwydion, sorry to hear that. This blows. Gwydion bows respectfully to all. if done unintentionally, swearing is usu stopped by warning in msg <[magnum}> I have enjoyed talking to you. thata rather fowl thing to do Gwydion bows out of the former Virtual Dojo. if it gets rough, that's disrespect, so a kick is necessary ok Gwydion we accept your resignation Enjoyed talking to you too mag :) Take care everyone. sorry you feel that way Hehe, accept it, and then some on top of it, eh Dougie? Gwydion [jrams@war-mi12-01.ix.netcom.com] has left #martial whitiger [~stinger@orem-pm3-1-1.inquo.net] has quit IRC (Ping timeout for whitiger[orem-pm3-1-1.inquo.net]) nodakvato [~george@srt-62.dialup.ndak.net] has joined #martial DrillMstr *nodakvato* we will be in moderated mode for the meeting. Only text entered by people with @ or + by their name will be seen. /msg op if you have a comment and it will be posted in the order it was received. that wa a cop out Fool!! well your the one that op'd only to be able to say your piece very un martial arrts like I agree Yes it was!! <[magnum}> no, he has a right to his thoughts..... but, maybe he has other reasons he cant handle the No Ops thing mag:maybe, but he should have sayed to mak changes <[magnum}> I do not like the way he handled it, but he has that right. if he flt so much for it like he sounded err felt mag:oss, surre sure it seems like it eh! he does have a right but i was trying to have a meeting better for him to be happy Well His LOSS! I know what the problem is. and partly ours if he had something to offer he could have waited like everyone else to say his piece But that is life!! The problem is that all the good users have gotten sick and pissed off at this channel and left. drill:please continue So all thats left is the crap. mart:we have? TimOPod: indeed, they have. Tas runs over and hugs Gwydion Tas waves bye-bye mart:i am offended by that i value my self above crap TimOPod: do you think I care? are u in the middle of PMS Mart? mart:and if what you say is ture, why are you here then TimOPod: I don't remember 90% of you from the good days. folk might just take that personally Martman mart:always the past is it TimOPod: I'm here because I decided to be. Wolfen: awe, so sorry. well.... mart:then stop sayign whats wrong, and think about how to make things right don't patronise me you're getting out of your depth There is no way to make things right. i like everyone here Mart, why not help make it better instead of quitting then ? As far as I see it, its too late. I can't help. Its beyond help. mart:then you'v already lost mart:nothing ios so bad Good then Bugger off U have a Attitude Prob mate BlakEagle: bugger me off. mart:just don't defeat yourself befor you start so basically everyone is "crap" and wouldnt that include you??? blak:uncalled for pls stop well, i gotta go TimOPod: Its not about me, the channel has already lost. U havent Said One Good thing about this Channel never discourage soemoen if yuo can help it DrillMstr sets mode: +m after seeing all the comments Mart, I was, always helped Rick I stay cos of the channel what good comes from quitting ? Nimue sighs heavily. Mas pls i think most want things to continue as is except maybe try improve things. Mart, if all tried, no, it would change, as all things DrillMstr: *x* deop Mascotte X sets mode: -o Mascotte Tas [mheeney@port84.ham.ihug.co.nz] has quit IRC (Tas runs off down the road, topknot swinging happily from side to side....) Kaze sets mode: +o Mascotte (going unmoderated) is this correct? oss well put drill nstynwild [nstynwild@dam-as7s12.erols.com] has joined #martial DrillMstr *nstynwild* we will be in moderated mode for the meeting. Only text entered by people with @ or + by their name will be seen. /msg op if you have a comment and it will be posted in the order it was received. nstynwild [nstynwild@dam-as7s12.erols.com] has left #martial ok so do we need more rules? no, rules oonly casue trouble, the only way this will wrk i think, is self governing, let it run it's self nodakvato [~george@srt-62.dialup.ndak.net] has left #martial ok thanks timopod. anyone else? i think that the ops should be the ones to keep a sense of order here. <[magnum}> There has to be some order, tim and we have to keep it. drill:it's still moderated... oops sorry but for heaven sake.... everyone has be willing to work on it or its NOT going to work. DrillMstr sets mode: -m 1) Quitting is often done with the intention of waking up the channel to reality, obviously it hasn't worked. 2) I cant' think of anything good to say about the channel thats why I haven't. 3) In the past things would never have gotten so far out of hand. 4) People here have no sense of true martial arts anymore. Its about UFC and other BS now. I want to say that I belive that inthe evenings that I am here that there is alot of respect for ppl that enter and widh for it to continue. Keep the ops and let them keep the room in order THE problem is that people in today's society have *lost* the essence of MA. good clariol I just realized that this is the problem. Its a natural change, the channel merely reflects the users. mart:i'm not japanese, so how can i have it? heheheh -m may help :P In time the users who had a good sense of the true essence have left, and now the others are here. What is the True MA then Mart? <[magnum}> I live true MA,. Nimue is now known as whitiger BlakEagle: its something you get from practicing traditional ma. Welcome tiger Now there is nothing wrong with having users without the essence, as it is our responsiblity to help them find the way. thnx clariol. I Know about that mate ... that is the Question i asked thou But to have ops and people in power who have no clue what MA is about is BS. DAMN mart - ma means diff things to diff ppl - u are not the ma god to decide what is the essence of ma ! that ISNT the question i asked thou mate mart:why do you asume no one knows wahtmartial arrts is I train traditional Well whatever. Gauz sets mode: -o Gauz I think you all take this way to seriously:) That may be the other big problem. to tell u the Truth ... I know and U should Know ... that no-one knows what a true MA is anymore I mean, its only IRC. Martman: I have worked with MA folks for the last 2 years and understand things are different with different styles mart:true ture, but what does it matter, it's onyl money, same arument Clariol: and its the uprising of all these commercial arts that have perverted the true way. err argument Martman: who says that we don't do the true way? No-one Knows anymore what the TRUE way is!!! DrillMstr sets mode: +m look ppl. if you like things -great!!! if you're unhappy with things - either leave or try to change it. I am open to any and all comments. If you have criticism of me then let me know so i can try to correct it. if we have no feed back then things will stay the same or get worse this channel is for all of you i want to make it the best that it can be Gauz [Gauz@sl86.tznet.com] has quit IRC (Chicago-R.IL.US.Undernet.org StLouis.MO.US.UnderNet.org) Mascotte [sharonv@engine8p10.maltanet.net] has quit IRC (Chicago-R.IL.US.Undernet.org StLouis.MO.US.UnderNet.org) Mascotte has left IRC but we can not do it without feedback now to bring this thing to a close i would like to conclude by saying... that I think we have a fine channel i have learned much from it blak:true is relavent, it changes with tim, what was true is not anymore drill:nod mayeb we need an easier way to get suggestions to ops, lliek a suggestion mail on the bot ok timopod rroy1 [jtvn@ppp0192.africaonline.co.ci] has joined #martial DrillMstr *rroy1* we will be in moderated mode for the meeting. Only text entered by people with @ or + by their name will be seen. /msg op if you have a comment and it will be posted in the order it was received. anyway i plan to offer the former owner a position with us at this time i personally feel he is not ready to be owner again Gauz [Gauz@sl86.tznet.com] has joined #martial DrillMstr *Gauz* we will be in moderated mode for the meeting. Only text entered by people with @ or + by their name will be seen. /msg op if you have a comment and it will be posted in the order it was received. if he does not want that then i'm sorry but we will decline his offer he wanted us to merge with him but he also said he wanted to be owner he has a martial society he has started i think it would be ok to offer to let him merge with us if he doesn't like it then may we both go on our own ways in peace i want only what's best for this channel qigong [qimaster@sar-fl4-08.ix.netcom.com] has joined #martial DrillMstr *qigong* we will be in moderated mode for the meeting. Only text entered by people with @ or + by their name will be seen. /msg op if you have a comment and it will be posted in the order it was received. this is the first time we have come together to discuss these issues yes it seems it was only a gripe session WaRlocK [PRoToTyPe@ws-207-105-213-134.gvo.net] has joined #martial DrillMstr *WaRlocK* we will be in moderated mode for the meeting. Only text entered by people with @ or + by their name will be seen. /msg op if you have a comment and it will be posted in the order it was received. VeuxDeux [adonis@port174.jxn.netdoor.com] has joined #martial DrillMstr *VeuxDeux* we will be in moderated mode for the meeting. Only text entered by people with @ or + by their name will be seen. /msg op if you have a comment and it will be posted in the order it was received. but i feel it was productive to see what the majority feel thank you all for attending please feel free to let me know of any other questions or comments you can e-mail me at drill.master@worldnet.att.net have a good night DrillMstr sets mode: -m Gauz [Gauz@sl86.tznet.com] has quit IRC (OPv2-jb) Mascotte [sharonv@engine8p10.maltanet.net] has joined #martial DrillMstr *Mascotte* we will be in moderated mode for the meeting. Only text entered by people with @ or + by their name will be seen. /msg op if you have a comment and it will be posted in the order it was received. X sets mode: +o Mascotte Gauz [Gauz@sl86.tznet.com] has joined #martial DrillMstr *Gauz* we will be in moderated mode for the meeting. Only text entered by people with @ or + by their name will be seen. /msg op if you have a comment and it will be posted in the order it was received. hey everyne, was a blast, i gotta go, see ya all later whatz up folks? DrillMstr: yeah, thats the solution. way to go. :-P I guess this just shows your ability to run the channel. Remember that the channel reflects on the owner. Of course you'd think its a fine channel because its your channel. I mean its easy to get intoxicated when you have all these M'Artists worshiping you. welcome Mascotte thanks :) i missed the meeting:( it was interesting qigong <[magnum}> qigong it went well. Dragonfst is now known as Bloodmane as well as coulf be expected if you don't tell me that anything is wrong then i will think everything is ok Hey folks.. phones out at my place... I caught some of this here with Dragon bye folks HELLLOOOO Blood!!! qigong is laagggged cyaz:) qigong [qimaster@sar-fl4-08.ix.netcom.com] has quit IRC (Leaving) TimOPod [palace@user-38lc382.dialup.mindspring.com] has quit IRC (Leaving) See ya Tim Bbbllllooooooodddddd!! Hi Blood brainold [~nine@199.234.151.40] has joined #martial DrillMstr *brainold* we will be in moderated mode for the meeting. Only text entered by people with @ or + by their name will be seen. /msg op if you have a comment and it will be posted in the order it was received. brainold [~nine@199.234.151.40] has left #martial Hello Dill and clariol :) clariol hands Blood some $$$ to get the phone fixed! :) Hello wolfen thanx clariol :) <[magnum}> Blood, how you been? Mascotte bows out night all Mascotte [sharonv@engine8p10.maltanet.net] has left #martial BLOOD!! see ya all later im goin swimming Gauz [Gauz@sl86.tznet.com] has quit IRC (OPv2-jb) mag I been ticked at my roomies for not payin the phone bill <[magnum}> Not a good thing, have to pay a hook up fee? DrillMstr: *x* set #martial description Martial Arts and Martial People X: New description set I dont know what all was discussed here this eve.. but it looks as if things turned out OK. I have never been dissatisfied with this channel. in fact the only disatisfaction that could come would be to try and to control what is said too much.. so no way do I think should this be a Strict MA discussion channel How many days a week do most people train? Bloodmane: well said :) later Martman [~jgrey@pm130.spots.ab.ca] has left #martial Capoeira [holobyte@208.16.35.236] has joined #martial DrillMstr *Capoeira* we will be in moderated mode for the meeting. Only text entered by people with @ or + by their name will be seen. /msg op if you have a comment and it will be posted in the order it was received. we will hopefully have logs available later goodnight everyone I hope so too night Drill thanks for attending Magus [a@ip-42.connectmmic.net] has joined #martial DrillMstr *Magus* we will be in moderated mode for the meeting. Only text entered by people with @ or + by their name will be seen. /msg op if you have a comment and it will be posted in the order it was received. Goodnight Drill DrillMstr bows out of #martial and to the people of #martial Capoeira [holobyte@208.16.35.236] has left #martial <[magnum}> Drill ,later. *** Log file closed: 8/1/97 9:46:59 PM