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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 21:20:20 -0800

From: Bruce

Subject: U.S. video in April????

 

David, I checked out the Sony website again and I still couldn't find

any mention of Beautiful Thing coming out on video in the U.S. in April. I

looked all over the site and didn't see a thing about this. Where is it?

Maybe you have 'intimate' sources at Sony that you aren't telling us about?

=^P

 

 

Bruce

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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 97 08:42:01 UT

From: "Ralf

Subject: WG: German-speaking-fans

 

You're not alone :-)

I will send you an email, "off-line" from the mailing list, so the Non-Germans

won't be bothered.

Take care

Ralf

Von: Christian

Gesendet am: Mittwoch, 29. Januar 1997 21:39

Betreff: German-speaking-fans

Hallo an alle deutschsprechenden BT-Fans!

Ich bin Chris aus Zuerich und sah BT dreimal im Kino. Vor ein paar

Wochen fand ich in London den Video und kann denn Film nun sooft ich

will anschauen. Auch kann ich Freunde zu BT-Abenden einladen.

Gerne wuerde ich von deutschsprechenden BT-Fans e-mails bekommen.

Schreibt doch, wie der Film auf Euch gewirkt hat. Hoffentlich gibt es

Euch!

Gruesse und Kuesse!

Chris

PS: Sorry, this was a message for german-speaking BT-Fans. I hope there

are some!

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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 08:27:31 -0600

From: JOE

Subject: Re: WG: German-speaking-fans

 

Ralf  wrote:

>

> You're not alone :-)

>

> I will send you an email, "off-line" from the mailing list, so the Non-Germans

> won't be bothered.

>

> Take care

> Ralf

>

>

> Von: Christian

> Gesendet am: Mittwoch, 29. Januar 1997 21:39

> Betreff: German-speaking-fans

>

> Hallo an alle deutschsprechenden BT-Fans!

>

> Ich bin Chris aus Zuerich und sah BT dreimal im Kino. Vor ein paar

> Wochen fand ich in London den Video und kann denn Film nun sooft ich

> will anschauen. Auch kann ich Freunde zu BT-Abenden einladen.

>

> Gerne wuerde ich von deutschsprechenden BT-Fans e-mails bekommen.

> Schreibt doch, wie der Film auf Euch gewirkt hat. Hoffentlich gibt es

> Euch!

>

No, I don't really "speak" German all that well, but I was able to put

my four years of high school and two years of college German classes to

use to understand Chris' post just fine. In whatever language, it's

great to see how BT has reached all around the world.

Gary

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From: Reto

Subject: AW: German-speaking-fans

Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 00:16:58 +-100

 

 

----------

Von: Ralf

Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Januar 1997 09:42

Betreff: WG: German-speaking-fans

You're not alone :-)

I will send you an email, "off-line" from the mailing list, so the Non-Germans

won't be bothered.

Take care

Ralf

Von: Christian

Gesendet am: Mittwoch, 29. Januar 1997 21:39

Betreff: German-speaking-fans

Hallo an alle deutschsprechenden BT-Fans!

Ich bin Chris aus Zuerich und sah BT dreimal im Kino. Vor ein paar

Wochen fand ich in London den Video und kann denn Film nun sooft ich

will anschauen. Auch kann ich Freunde zu BT-Abenden einladen.

Gerne wuerde ich von deutschsprechenden BT-Fans e-mails bekommen.

Schreibt doch, wie der Film auf Euch gewirkt hat. Hoffentlich gibt es

Euch!

Gruesse und Kuesse!

Chris

PS: Sorry, this was a message for german-speaking BT-Fans. I hope there

are some!

 

Hallo Chris!

Auch ich habe den Film gesehen, zwar nur einmal, aber ich war dennoch total begeistert. Ich wäre froh, wenn die im Film gezeigte menschliche Wärme öfters im Alltag anzutreffen wäre! Doch ich möchte hier keine Schwarzmalerei betreiben, denn eigentlich geht es mir sehr gut, und nun nach "Beautiful Thing" natürlich noch besser. Jetzt ist es Donnerstag Abend, am Montag war ich im Kino - und ich bin noch immer gerührt, fasziniert, begeistert von diesem Abend.

Eigentlich sollte ich mich zuerst einmal kurz vorstellen: Ich heisse Reto, bin bald einmal zwanzig, habe gerade meine Matur hinter mir und geniesse das Leben in vollen Zügen. In der nächsten Zeit werde ich öfters auf meinem Snowboard anzutreffen sein, da ich glücklicherweise, dank meiner leichten Stauballergie, nicht ins Militär gehen muss und darum viel Zeit habe. Im Frühling möchte ich meiner zweiten Lieblingsbeschäftigung nachgehen, dem Reisen. Zuerst möchte ich für einige Tage nach Finnland, danach noch kurz nach Manchester und auch nach London. Tja, was soll ich noch von mir erzählen? Ah ja, ich höre sehr gerne Musik, am liebsten höre ich Massive Attack, EbtG, George Michael, Tricky, Portishead, Madonna, M People und vieles mehr, bin aber sehr flexibel. Auch gehe ich oft ins Kino, aber ich sehe nicht so gerne diese Mainstream-Filme, mehr solche sachen wie eben das, oder sonstige kleinere, interessante Projekte. So genug geschwafelt.

Ich hoffe, dass Du mir zurückschreibst! Ich würde mich auf jeden Fall sehr freuen. Vielleicht wäre es auch möglich, "Beautiful Thing" bei Dir nochmals anzusehen, denn ich wohne nicht weit weg von Zürich.

Also bis bald ;-)

Reto

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 07:19:42 -0600

From: Kyle

Subject: Re: Merchandise -Reply

At 06:10 PM 1/30/97 -0500, you wrote:

>At 10:21 AM 1/30/97 -0800, you wrote:

> I'd like something

>>from the chase/kiss in the woods scene. I get the impression that that

>>aspect was played down by Sony publicity here in the States.

>>

>>I agree, except for advertizing aimed at the gay community. I rented

>"Celluloid Closet" and it had the BIT trailer which showed the kiss scene

>cut just a nanosecond before liplock!

>

>Simon.

>

>

What? Is this an updated version of Celluloid Closet? I remember it being

shown on Cable here in the US, but I don't remember any scenes from BT being

shown...were a few other nice scenes from a few other movies tho :)

Kyle

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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 10:13:07 -0800

From: "Scott

Subject: Re: U.S. video in April????

 

Hi Bruce et. al.

Check out David's and Andi's web page at:

http://www.zzapps.demon.co.uk/beautiful-thing/Video.htm

This page lists the release dates.

Scott

[please, please, please, please, be released in April (or sooner:)]

 

Bruce  wrote:

>

>David, I checked out the Sony website again and I still couldn't

>find any mention of Beautiful Thing coming out on video in the U.S.

>in April. I looked all over the site and didn't see a thing about

>this. Where is

>it? Maybe you have 'intimate' sources at Sony that you aren't telling us about?

>

> Bruce

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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 11:14:40 -0600

From: JOE

Subject: Re: Merchandise -Reply

Kyle S wrote:

>

> At 06:10 PM 1/30/97 -0500, you wrote:

> >>I agree, except for advertizing aimed at the gay community. I rented

> >"Celluloid Closet" and it had the BIT trailer which showed the kiss scene

> >cut just a nanosecond before liplock!

> >

> >Simon.

> >

> >

> What? Is this an updated version of Celluloid Closet? I remember it being

> shown on Cable here in the US, but I don't remember any scenes from BT being

> shown...were a few other nice scenes from a few other movies tho :)

>

> Kyle

Simon was referring to the "trailer" or preview clip on the videotape.

Most rental videos have these previews, usually of upcoming videos but

also sometimes of movies coming to theaters.

I taped Celluloid Closet the night it was on HBO before it opened in

theaters. I showed it to my Media and Society class last spring and will

show it again this spring. But now, learning that there is a trailer for

BT on the commercial video, I may just have to rent it. :)

Gary

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From: "David

Subject: Web site finally updated

Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 18:31:56 -0000

 

You'll all be pleased to know I finally managed to update the site this

afternoon.

The LED ticker has been substantially edited, there are several interesting

new items on the Latest News page, the front-page itself has been altered

slightly.

There are additions to the International Screenings and Releases pages, and

a two new pages: International Box Office figures, and Table of Contents.

Davie.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder

PGP public key at http://www.zzapps.demon.co.uk/Davie/

Beautiful Thing web http://www.zzapps.demon.co.uk/beautiful-thing/

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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 19:08:11 -0500

From: Simon

Subject: Re: Merchandise -Reply

 

At 07:19 AM 1/23/97 -0600, you wrote:

>At 06:10 PM 1/30/97 -0500, you wrote:

>>At 10:21 AM 1/30/97 -0800, you wrote:

>> I'd like something

>>>from the chase/kiss in the woods scene. I get the impression that that

>>>aspect was played down by Sony publicity here in the States.

>>>

>>>I agree, except for advertizing aimed at the gay community. I rented

>>"Celluloid Closet" and it had the BIT trailer which showed the kiss scene

>>cut just a nanosecond before liplock!

>>

>>Simon.

>>

>>

>What? Is this an updated version of Celluloid Closet? I remember it being

>shown on Cable here in the US, but I don't remember any scenes from BT being

>shown...were a few other nice scenes from a few other movies tho :)

>

> Kyle

>

Whoops! I didn't mean to meslead anyone. Beautiful Thing was advertized as

coming soon to video among the trailers preceding the film. Celluloid Closet

is to old to feature BIT.

Simon.>

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From: "Shaun

Subject: A story

Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 23:15:34 -0500

 

good day all-

I was just wondering what all of you on this wonderful list thought of

something I was curious about. I am working on a story for an honors

project at my college. I can't really tell about the story (stupid writer's

quirk) except that it is a coming out story. If anyone's interested, I'll

post it on my page when it's done. Anyway, I was wondering if it breaks any

sort of copyright laws or anything to include a scene in my story (in case

someone likes the story and wants to publish it <grin>) where my two main

characters go to a viewing of "Beautiful Thing." I just thought that so

many people loved BT and it was such an inspiration, that it would be kind

of a neat tribute to show those kinds of feelings in my story. So anyway, I

was just wondering if there was anything against that.

Thanks all

Shaun

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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:41:41 +0000

From: Rupert

Subject: A story too

 

In message , Shaun  writes

>good day all-

>

>I was just wondering what all of you on this wonderful list thought of

>something I was curious about. I am working on a story for an honors

>project at my college. I can't really tell about the story (stupid writer's

>quirk) except that it is a coming out story. If anyone's interested, I'll

>post it on my page when it's done. Anyway, I was wondering if it breaks any

>sort of copyright laws or anything to include a scene in my story (in case

>someone likes the story and wants to publish it <grin>) where my two main

>characters go to a viewing of "Beautiful Thing." I just thought that so

>many people loved BT and it was such an inspiration, that it would be kind

>of a neat tribute to show those kinds of feelings in my story. So anyway, I

>was just wondering if there was anything against that.

>

>Thanks all

>

>Shaun

Hiya everyone!

In answer to Shaun's question: there's nothing to stop you from

referring to "Beautiful Thing" in your story, but if you quote directly

from the film, you need permission from the copyright holder. Presumably

the rights are owned by Channel Four, or perhaps the publishers Methuen.

I think that's the case anyway. So go for it Shaun!

I too have written a story about the effect of BT on a boy's life. It's

kind of wierd though, as it's also about fantasies. If anyone's

interested, it's on my web site at http://www.rupeworld.demon.co.uk

It's pretty short, so don't expect too much!

Bye!

Rupert

--

Rupert

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Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 19:46:47 -0500

From: Drake

Subject: My Beautiful Experience, and Movie grabs...

 

Hi all! I've been reading along and enjoying all the banter about

Beautiful Thing, a film which changed my life as well! It came into my

life about a week or so after the breakup of my three-year relationship,

and brought me some hope in an otherwise depressing period. I'll never

get over the incredible feelings I experienced that magical first time I

saw BT!!! I've been in love with it, the characters, and the actors

ever since.

Anyway, add me to the list of Americans who just CANNOT wait until the

NTSC video release on this side of the Atlantic! I was just wondering

if any of you lucky stiffs who have the video have done any decent video

grabs from some scenes other than the ones available at the websites?

Would you be willing to share? I've got the closeup of Ste and Jamie

dancing as my Windows wallpaper, but want more jpg's if anyone has them,

maybe of the *kiss*?

Thanks for the ongoing dialogue and fellow admiration of one wonderful

film!!!!

Sincerely,

Drake

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From: "Shaun

Subject: Re: A story too

Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 20:27:04 -0500

 

> Hiya everyone!

>

> In answer to Shaun's question: there's nothing to stop you from

> referring to "Beautiful Thing" in your story, but if you quote directly

> from the film, you need permission from the copyright holder. Presumably

> the rights are owned by Channel Four, or perhaps the publishers Methuen.

> I think that's the case anyway. So go for it Shaun!

>

> I too have written a story about the effect of BT on a boy's life. It's

> kind of wierd though, as it's also about fantasies. If anyone's

> interested, it's on my web site

> It's pretty short, so don't expect too much!

>

> Bye!

>

> Rupert

> --

> Rupert

Thanks much. I just thought that it would be a great way to kind of thank

everyone for BT.

and by the way. If anyone gets a chance, you should check out Rupert's

writing. I just got done reading it and he's very talented. :o) and very

inspiring.

Bye all

Shaun

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From: "David

Subject: Problems with the list server

Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:05:12 -0000

 

Hi everyone,

While it looks like the server is behaving, I want to let you know that I

am aware of problems with the server. I'm trying to identify the cause and

let the authors know so the bugs can be fixed.

Another cause for you lossing access to the list is if mail from the list

to you is bounced back. I've had so many spoof subscriptions that as soon

as I get an email from a mailer deamon telling me an address is

uncontactable, I delete the address from the list to stop an endless loop

of "I don't know you" emails between the list server and the mail daemon.

If you think this happens to you at any time, email me personally and I'll

check your address is still in the list.

Andi and I will try to post at least one mail a day to the list so that

there is always some traffic - rather like a Ping I suppose :-)

David.

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Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 07:07:04 -0600

From: Kyle

Subject: Re: Screenplay

At 08:03 PM 2/3/97 -0600, you wrote:

>Kyle,

>I saw the screenplay at both the Lewisville and N. Richland Hills Barnes

>and Noble and Lewisville Borders. (The Borders just opened right before

>Christmas and is very well stocked. See if they can have a copy sent to

>your local store.)

>Has anyone had luck finding the play in Dallas?

>Dennis

>--

>

Well, that gives me hope for our Barnes & Noble. It opened in my area not

long ago, and I finally found the screenplay section--only no Beautiful

Thing...going to check one more time before ordering from Amazon...

Kyle

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Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 07:35:28 -0600

From: Kyle

Subject: Re: A story too

 

At 10:41 PM 2/3/97 +0000, you wrote:

>Hiya everyone!

>

>In answer to Shaun's question: there's nothing to stop you from

>referring to "Beautiful Thing" in your story, but if you quote directly

>from the film, you need permission from the copyright holder. Presumably

>the rights are owned by Channel Four, or perhaps the publishers Methuen.

>I think that's the case anyway. So go for it Shaun!

>

>I too have written a story about the effect of BT on a boy's life. It's

>kind of wierd though, as it's also about fantasies. If anyone's

>interested, it's on my web site

>It's pretty short, so don't expect too much!

>

>Bye!

>

>Rupert

>--

>Rupert

>

>

Just read your story Rupert---BRAVO!!!

<hugz>

Kyle

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 97 16:29:04 UT

From: "Ralf

Subject: B.T. in Internet Movie Database top 10 list

 

Hi,

just wanted to let you know that Beautiful Thing is among the top 10 from the

IMDb top 250 movies as voted by their users.

Check out http://us.imdb.com/top_250_films (takes some time to load).

Ralf

P.S.: Rupert, I just read your story at work. I loved it. My office-mates

probably wonder why I have this sunny smile on my face while staring on my

monitor...

P.P.S.: Once again thanks to David who spends so much effort maintaining this

great web site plus the mailing list and keeping the B.T. community together

P.P.P.S.: Excuse my bad English

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 10:29:44 -0800

From: Mike

Subject: RE: Problems with the list server

 

I posted several messages to the list yesterday that didn't get through so

I'm going to be reposting them now.

Thanks to David and Andi for their hard work!

Mike

 

>Hi everyone,

>

>While it looks like the server is behaving, I want to let you know that I

>am aware of problems with the server. I'm trying to identify the cause and

>let the authors know so the bugs can be fixed.

>

>Another cause for you lossing access to the list is if mail from the list

>to you is bounced back. I've had so many spoof subscriptions that as soon

>as I get an email from a mailer deamon telling me an address is

>uncontactable, I delete the address from the list to stop an endless loop

>of "I don't know you" emails between the list server and the mail daemon.

>

>If you think this happens to you at any time, email me personally and I'll

>check your address is still in the list.

>

>Andi and I will try to post at least one mail a day to the list so that

>there is always some traffic - rather like a Ping I suppose :-)

>

>David.

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 10:38:29 -0800

From: Mike

Subject: Re: My visit to Thamesmead

On Wed Jan 22, Jay wrote:

>Beautiful Thing played for 3 months at the Lumiere Theatre in San

>Francisco, <snip> I saw it

>12 times, and each time was fresh, new. <snip>

Yep, that was my experience too.

>

>Now that BT isn't playing here any more, I am sort of going cold turkey.

><snip>

Funny That. My experience too!

 

To Jay and everyon on the list: What is it, do you think, that makes us

want to see this film over and over again? My guess: we REALY ARE THAT

STARVED for positive, loving, passionate gay images of ourselves.

Mike

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 10:45:39 -0800

From: Mike

Subject: Re: My own private Thamesmead (2)

 

Thu, 23 Jan,  wrote:

>Back in October, when I saw "Beautiful Thing" here in Toronto, I found

>myself:

> - in love with the movie

> - going back to see it whenever I could (someone described in a posting

>their "pathological" fixation on the movie. Yeah, that was me, too.)

Me Three

> - very confused about my own relationship

I share some of this, although I wouldn't say "confused" so much as concerned.

>At first I appreciated my partner, glad that I'd found love, even though it

>was fairly late along compared to Jamie and Ste (I'm 28, and we've been

>together for about four years). Then I got to feeling that my relationship

>had none of the spark I was so drawn to in the movie. Now, January, it looks

>like we're splitting up. Now, I wouldn't be so foolish as to blame the

>movie; it just shone a light on the situation, helping me realize that a

>relationship should be fun, exciting, and (go figure) romantic.

<snip>

Beautiful Thing has come at a very important point in my life. I just

turned 49 in January; hey, I'm not exactly young any more. One of the

things I love about the film is it has brought me back in touch with

feelings I'd almost forgotten about. Suddenly I remember, oh, yeah, I felt

like that once upon a time. It was very powerful and very important. How

can I have that now in my life?

IMHO a relationship that is "fun, exciting and romantic" doesn't just

happen. Well, it may just happen in the beginning when you and your partner

are just getting to know one another. But then the relationship shifts.

Relationships are living things and, like all living things, they go

through cycles of development. Once you've passed through the innitial

"dating/honeymoon" phase, you have to see what the next step is going to

be. Further committment and intimacy? Maybe. Maybe not. But to keep the

"fun, excitement and romance" alive, well, that takes work -- co-operation

-- on everyone's part. It has to be CREATED.

>All that said, I find myself still coming back to this movie. And now

>there's this group of us all responding to it. Has anybody else had an

>experience like this?

You BET! I love Davie and we've been together for seven years. Yet, like

you, this movie reminded me of something I'm not getting that I want. How

to get it, that's the question? Does it mean working it out within the

relationship I have, or does it mean letting go of that and oppening myself

to the possibility of finding something more fitting for who I am now?

These are hard questions that have to be lived through. No amount of

talking will save us from the experinece of living through these dificult

choices.

>God, I can just picture it now: me, single, going to "Beautiful Thing"

>conventions, a bunch of Klingons gathered just down the hall.

I don't think THAT's going to happne. BUT, if people are interested we can

create something else, something more . . . BEAUTIFUL! :-)

Mike

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:41:47 -0800

From: Mike

Subject: Valentines Day Gift Suggestions:

 

I've been thinking about gifts for Davie and my frineds for Valentines.

I wish there were more BT Merchandise more readily available; they'd

rank high on my list. I've also seen some other things I'll share with

you. If YOU have some ideas, why not share them with us?

 

Here's my list:

 

COUPLES, by John Gettings, University Press of New England, 1996, ISBN:

0-87451-791-5 This is a photographic essay of gay and lesbian couples

of all ages. I didn't read much of the text but it was interesting to

look at these different, extra-yet-ordinary folks.

 

THE GAY GUYS GUIDE TO LOVE: The Dos Don'ts and Definite Maybes of

Dating and Mating, by Ken Haner. (I may not have the last name right, I

can't read my hand writing). Crown Trade Paperbacks. (Sorry, forgot to

get the ISBN on this one)

This book consists of a list of several hundred fun things you can do

to get and/or keep romance in your life. Just flipping through it I got

some neat ideas to spring on Davie. Maybe I should get him this book

for Valentines? Yep.

 

RECENT ISSUE OR SUBSCRIPTION TO XY MAGAZINE: Hey, I know I'm plugging

these folks but, honest, its only because I think they're headed in the

right direction. I've been reading their February/March "Love" issue

and it is the best yet. Yeah, yeah, there are lots of cute young things

in various stages of undress (so, what's wrong with that?!); but there

are also some interesting and provocative articles. Here's a highly

shortened excerpt from Peter Ian Cummings' (the publisher) opening

statement for this issue:

 

<paraindent><param>right,left</param>"I've been having some trouble

finding a boyfriend. I wonder why...[so do I, he's truly cute--MW]

 

"The problem is, simply, that there isn't enough emphasis on love in

the gay community: we're all so busy dancing and sending email (and

getting off) that we, as a community, have pushed love to the bottom of

our priority list.

 

"This is a terrible conclusion to reach, for what is the point of being

gay without love?...

 

"Look, the reason I go to clubs and hang out on the Internet is because

I am looking for love. My main motivation is *love*, and it isn't

dancing of listening to hip-hop or even sex (though I dance and have

sex a lot more than I find love)...

 

"We need new and creative solutions to this love-deficit...looking for

closeness requires admitting that it's missing, and that we want it...

 

"Look I don't have the answers. I don't know how to change the gay

scene, or exactly how to make people act honestly or caringly on the

gay Internet... But I figure if all of you think about the points I've

mentioned, somebody might be spurred...into making some improvements we

can all benefit from."

</paraindent>

Hey, I think we should invite Ian to join our BT list, what do you

think?

 

Much Love to all,

 

Mike

 

(PS: This is my last post for today, honest!) ;-)

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 23:11:50 +0000

From: Rupert

Subject: Thanks! :o)

 

Hiya all!

Just a quick note to say thanks for all the kind comments about my

story. I was really touched - and I mean that sincerely. I'm looking

forward to reading Shaun's story, to see what sort of approach he takes

to the subject. By the way, I'll get back to those of you who've written

to me personally as soon as I can (when I'm a little less tired - erk)!

*Hugs* to everyone!

Rupert :o)

PS: Ralf, there's no need to apologise for your English. It's better

than that of a lot of English people I know!

--

Rupert Sliwa

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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 10:48:23 -0800

From: Mike

Subject: Re: A story

Shaun -- wrote:

>good day all-

>

>I was just wondering what all of you on this wonderful list thought of

>something I was curious about. I am working on a story for an honors

>project at my college. I can't really tell about the story (stupid writer's

>quirk) except that it is a coming out story. If anyone's interested, I'll

>post it on my page when it's done. Anyway, I was wondering if it breaks any

>sort of copyright laws or anything to include a scene in my story (in case

>someone likes the story and wants to publish it <grin>) where my two main

>characters go to a viewing of "Beautiful Thing." I just thought that so

>many people loved BT and it was such an inspiration, that it would be kind

>of a neat tribute to show those kinds of feelings in my story. So anyway, I

>was just wondering if there was anything against that.

>

I can't imagine that this would break any copy right laws. I'd be very

interested to read your story when its complete.

Thanks,

Mike

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From: "Andi

Subject: The Story Band Wagon

Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 19:35:40 -0000

 

Well here I go!

As a few guys on the list have been putting stories up on

the web, I thought that I might as well jump on the

bandwagon. I've be threatening to put a story that I've

been writing on the web for a few months now, it's only in

rought draft, there are typos and the like all over it, but

it's quite good, from what I have been told by the few who

have read it.

There is a link from the url below, the FTP links on the

page don't work, so you'll have to use your browser to pull

it in and read. It's quite long so unless you get free web

access, I recommend that you pull it in and save it to

file, for further perusal. Alternatively you can mail me

and I can forward you a copy either in .doc (MS Word) or

txt format.

Either way, enjoy it, as I enjoy writing it still. Any bits

you have suggestions on improving or expanding drop me a

line to my personal email, (not the list!) as constructive

critism is greatefully received! :-)

Laters

Andi

xx

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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 22:38:54 +0000

From: Rupert

Subject: Dream a Little Dream...

 

Heyas all!

Just a quick note to say I've spent the evening scouring the web for BT-

related MIDI files... and I haven't come up with much :o(

All that I found was an extremely dodgy version of "Dream a Little Dream

of Me", which sounds pretty appalling through my FM soundcard.

Nevertheless, I've put it in the "jukebox" on my web site just in case

anyone's interested. If somebody with a Wavetable soundcard has a listen

to it, could you let me know how it sounds? Also, if anyone has any MIDI

files of Mama Cass songs, I'd love to hear them!

See yas!

Rupert

--

Rupert

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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 10:58:44 -0800

From: Mike

Subject: Boy friend in hospital

 

Hi BT friends:

My boy friend, Davie (David ) was hospitalized last night after being

taken to the emergency room. He has been disoriented and feverish. They've

run tests but I do not know the results as of this time. I do know the

blood tests were "negative."

I'm feeling okay. Alarmed, of course, but I find keeping busy with my work

helps. I will be seeing Davie later this evening and hopefully will find

out more from the Dr.s at that time. Davie and I have been lovers for seven

years and I'm also friends with his brother, who is helping me monitor this

situation. (I also receive considerable support from our many friends.)

Life is real, folks. Sometimes it is overwhelmingly so. One of the things I

love about Beautiful Thing is that the two characters are PRESENT for one

another. Life was not perfect, but at least they had each other. This, to

me, is the core of this movie and what speaks to our depths. That they are

gay characters, of course, is important to US.

The final scene with Jamie and Ste dancing in the plaza with the rest of

the world watching on with its opinions and prejudices is an archtype. A

symbol with many many levels of meaning to be felt. Within each of us there

is a place where we can go, a place where we are solid and real and whole

for ourselves and one another, despite all the chaos that surrounds us and

permeates our lives from day to day. In that place, everything is a

Beautiful Thing.

Dance with me?

 

 

Much love to you all,

Mike

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Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 22:49:03 +0100

From: Christian

Subject: Re: Boy friend in hospital

 

Dearest Mike,

thank you for your beautiful e-mail you've sent to all of us. It touched

me deeply and I hope your boyfriend will be soon better. I'm thinking

here in Switzerland of you two.

Take care! With all my love,

Chris