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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:45:23 -0600 (CST)
From: Jason
Subject: movie poster...
 
Here's a story about how my friend and I got our Beautiful Thing movie
posters:
Beautiful Thing played at the local art house theater in Minneapolis, the
Lagoon. The Lagoon and its sister theater, the Uptown, never give away
their posters and instead have an semi-annual poster sale. Brian (who is
also on the list, and should get a kick out of this) and I called ahead
of time to find out if there would be BT posters available, and they
said, yes, there would be two.
The poster sale started early in the morning on a Saturday, and since
both Brian and I are students, that's usually our day to sleep in. And
as the morning approached, I began to have second thoughts on how badly I
wanted my own BT poster. But I got up in the morning, and called Brian,
and he showed up at the dorm. We drove out to the theater and parked,
and I believe we got there about a half hour before the sale started.
There were two in line ahead of us, and I recognized them from the final
showing of BT a week or so before. I whispered this to Brian, and we
assumed there would be a lot of competition for the posters. More people
started to show up, as well, and I recognized a lot of people in line
behind us from the showing. Uh, oh.
They opened the door to the theater and we all raced up the stairs to the
second level, where all the posters were rolled up in boxes according to
the the first letter of the title. There was a stampede to the B box.
Five or six of us were gathered around all sides of the box, pulling out
posters and looking at the hand-written name at the end, with others
watching over our shoulders. After digging in the box for over a minute,
getting more and more frustrated, I started pulling out five posters at a
time, on on each finger, and then.....lo and behold....the two posters
together!!! I grabbed them, and backed away from the box, motioning for
Brian to follow me. I gave him one, and watched as the others kept
digging, for they didn't know that we had gotten the only two! Brian
wanted to keep looking, but the longer the others dug, the more edgy I
got, and we finally left. I didn't want to face an angry mob of gay men
being denied their Beautiful Thing posters. :-)
So, that's how Brian and I got our posters. And it was worth getting up
early on a Saturday, too.

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Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 06:56:55 -0600 (CST)
From: BRIAN
Subject: Re: movie poster...
 
> Beautiful Thing played at the local art house theater in Minneapolis, the
> Lagoon. The Lagoon and its sister theater, the Uptown, never give away
> their posters and instead have an semi-annual poster sale. Brian (who is
> also on the list, and should get a kick out of this) and I called ahead
> of time to find out if there would be BT posters available, and they
> said, yes, there would be two.
Hi, I'm 'Brian', and I did get a kick out of this, Jason :)
I am staring at my framed copy of one of the only two BT posters I know
of in Minnesota :)

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From: Ralf
Subject: Compiled slang list
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:23:05 -0800
 
Thank you to everyone who contributed for the terms and expressions
list. I compiled all inputs into a convenient HTML table. To view the
table just copy and paste the HTML code below into your favourite text
editor, save the file and open it in your browser.
Davie, how about posting this table on one of the pages of the BT
website?
Thanks again to GW, Gary , Tony , Simon , Rupert
. The comments were a great help for me.
Ralf

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form tutor
 
Miss Chauhan's the kids form tutor
 
•A form tutor is a teacher who has responsibility for a class (or "form") of pupils •Teacher nominally in charge of attendance. Form = Grade •For me my Form Tutor was the teacher that recorded my attendance every morning and afternoon as well as teaching their own subject for the length of my stay at the school. Each class of approx. 20-30 students had their own form tutor
 
 
proverbial
 
Miss Chauhan to the kids about Mr. Bennett: You, for the next hour, must think that the sun shines out his proverbial.
 
•The sun shines out of his arse. By saying "proverbial" she means "use the slang word" •Asshole (Arsehole)
 
 
brassy
 
Leah is sixteen, brassy, attractive
 
•Confident, loud, arrogant. I think that this term is northern in origin, but I don't know much more about it •Loud, assertive •Brassy normally means Bold, Brash, but also another word for hooker, as in 'you old brass'
 
 
scally
 
attractive in a scally way
 
This is really a Liverpudlian term. It means rascallish, sort of
 
 
mule
 
the toe of her right mule
 
A slipper that has no counter or strap to fit around the heel
 
 
exocet
 
Sandra cast Leah an exocet glance
 
•Exocet is a type of missile - so "an exocet glance" is a kind of post-modern way of saying that she glared daggers! •As in very accurate missile from the Falklands war
 
 
care
 
They'll put you into care
 
•Into the care of the local authority - i.e. a children's home •Foster Home
 
 
tuts
 
Jamie tuts as Sandra goes inside
 
To "tut" is literally what it sounds like. It's a clicking noise made with the tongue, to register disapproval
 
 
tuts
 
Leah (tuts): Singing
 
see above
 
 
four-pack
 
Ronnie carrying plastic bag w/ four-pack
 
A four-pack of beers/lagers
 
 
puffa jacket
 
he wears a puffa jacket
 
•A large, ribbed jacket. Fashionable amongst "lads" a few years ago, and again this year •Bomber Jacket
 
 
Libs
 
Leah (tuts): Libs!
 
Libs, short for Liberties, as in 'they're taking liberties (advantage) of me'
 
 
tea
 
Ste: I'm doing the tea
 
•Tea = dinner. Presumably derived from the term "high tea", meaning a late afternoon meal. This term is rarely used today, but "tea" lives on! •In order, Breakfast, Lunch, Tea/Dinner, Supper
 
 
Hoover bag
 
wouldn't be the bloody Hoover bag
 
Vacuum cleaner bag (Hoover is the leading brand of vacuum cleaner in the UK)
 
 
duvet
 
Ste smoothes down the duvet
 
•Continental quilt •Comforter
 
 
beetroot
 
the one with the beetroot's for Tony
 
Juicy purple root vegetable
 
 
off
 
Sandra goes into the hallway, ready for the off
 
Ready to leave, i.e. to set "off"
 
 
mush
 
Trevor: Oi! Mush! calling Leah
 
Mush = mouth, as in you've got ice cream round your mush
 
 
Ecstacy
 
pile of Ecstacy tablets
 
Ecstacy = "e". Recreational drug popular in youth culture.
 
 
East End Boy
 
Rodney is an East End boy
 
•He is from the East End of London •Working class district of London •I object to Simon Steven's comment about working class area of london ;-), It used to be that way quite a few years ago, but in the last 20 years it has moved somewhat upmarket. It basically means he grew up in the east end of london, same as someone who grew up in north london is, (surprise, surprise) a north london boy.
 
 
top and tail
 
Sandra: You'll have to top and tail with Jamie
 
•Head to toe. Sleeping arrangement •Basically one sleeps in the bed one way and the other the opposite way, Therefore Jamie's head would be next to Ste's feet and vice versa.
 
 
bang on
 
Ste: Cheese and Salad. Bang on food
 
•Bang on = hits the target! Just right! •Good, perfect •Right on, exactly
 
 
two fingers up
 
Sandra puts two fingers up at the driver
 
•She makes a "V" sign - meaning "up yours!" •Flipping the bird - English style. Index and second finger extended, palm •inward. Oposite of hippy peace symbol
 
 
forty Silk Cut
 
Leah walking in car park carrying forty Silk Cut
 
A brand of cigarette
 
 
Linda Lusardi
 
husband refering to Marlene
 
•A soft porn model turned TV presenter •A topless model in one of our tabloid papers for a while
 
 
footy top
 
Ste in his footy top and jogging bottoms
 
Football (soccer) shirt
 
 
full stop
 
Ste: I don't speak. Full stop.
 
Means the same as "Period" in the North American vernacular
 
 
nicks
 
Leah nicks one of Sandra's cigarettes
 
Steals
 
 
butter
 
butter wouldn't melt; Sandra to Jamie
 
•Butter wouldn't melt in his mouth - i.e. he's so saintly •"in his mouth" Cool customer
 
 
not on his own
 
Jamie's not on his own, the on walkway
 
He's not by himself
 
 
goat
 
Ronnie starts acting the goat
 
•Cranky (I guess, context?) •Goat = playing the fool, being a jester
 
 
Body Shop bottle
 
Jamie gets a small Body Shop bottle
 
Up market cosmetics store
 
 
skew-whiff
 
the covers skew-whiff
 
•Askew •In a state of disarray, not straight
 
 
rave
 
Leah dolled up the the nines after a night at a rave
 
•A rave is an underground gathering of people who dance the night away to hardcore dance music. Has links with "e" (see earlier description) •American again. All night dance party. Often E enduced •Rave = a place people go to dance normally in out of use warehouses and the ravers (people) are normally assisted by drugs of some kind or another
 
 
corporation houses
 
street of corporation houses
 
Public housing
 
 
ravey
 
ravey music blasts out
 
see above
 
 
shimmies
 
Gina is shaking her shimmies dancing
 
•Legs? •I could be wrong but this sometimes refers to breasts
 
 
snogging
 
boy and girl lie on bed snogging
 
•French kissing •Kissing, making out
 
 
scrag
 
hauls Leah to her feet by the scrag of her hair
 
In this case I think it means a handful of hair
 
 
wank
 
have a wank; Sandra to Ryan
 
•Masturbate. The standard British term for this. Incidentally, the phrase "wanker" is a term of derision •Jerk off
 
 
big bullocks
 
Sandra to Ryan
 
Big balls
 
 
twatting
 
Leah to Ste: he's been twatting the face offa you
 
Twatting in this instance means hitting, the word twat is also another name for the vagina
 
 
Meridian
 
Tony inviting Sandra to the park legs astride the Meridian
 
•The Greenwich Meridian. This is the line of 0 degrees latitude, so that when you're astride it you're in the east and west at the same time! •As in Greenwich meridian. 0 degrees longitude. It's engraved in the ground in Greenwich, London.
 
 
rota
 
I gotta sort out the week's rota
 
•Work timetable •Roster
 
 
Home & Away
 
Sandra to Ste about Noleen: very Home and Away
 
Home and Away is a popular Australian soap. Sandra simply means that the name Noleen has an Australian sound to it, as it's typical of the names of the characters in such soaps (in her opinion)
 
 
camps
 
Jamie camps (hams?) it up a bit
 
•To be camp is to be a bit effeminate. •Swishes about. Acts campy. "To act effeminate" is the best term for this
 
 
sort me out
 
Sandra to Tony in bed
 
Have sex with me
 
 
butchers
 
Jamie's look when he passes Ste the Gay Times. Have a butchers at that,' he seems to say with his smile.
 
•Take a look at that •butchers is slang 'Butchers hook = look'
 
 
thick git
 
Ste gives a look as though to say 'Thick git.'
 
Stupid idiot
 
 
over-the-top lounge
 
picture of the sofa in the catalogue in an _ _ _
 
Overdone, too much, tacky.
 
 
git
 
Sandra: my little git of a son
 
•Idiot •git = pain in the ass / annoying person
 
 
180 bus
 
Jamie boarding a red 180 bus
 
The number 180 bus
 
 
petal
 
DQ: what's your name petal?
 
•Sweet •Affectionate term for a person.
 
 
shimmies
 
DQ shimmies around to Ste
 
 
trar
 
DQ: Trar
 
•Bye! Slang •tara = goodbye
 
 
snogs
 
snogs the golly off him; Ste kissing Jamie
 
Ste kisses Jamie
 
 
golly
 
snogs the golly off him; Ste kissing Jamie
 
 
 
nobshiner
 
Jamie to Tony; what Jamie is
 
•Knob = dick •Likes to polish dicks.
 
 
brown hatter
 
Jamie to Tony; what Jamie is
 
•Europeans aren't usually circumsized. You figure it out •Can happen during anal sex if the passive partner hasn't prepared correctly. another term for something similar is fudge nudger/packer, or uphill gardener
 
 
shirtflaplifter
 
Jamie to Tony; what Jamie is
 
Self explanatory. Incidentally our favourite in Suffolk was "knobjockey"
 
 
Bermondsley
 
where Jamie was born? where is it?
 
•Bermondsey is in London •South London as in South of the river Thames
 
 
bullocks to benefit
 
Sandra: Council saying bullocks to benefit; not helping?
 
Benefit = welfare. She was denied
 
 
pee
 
Sandra: three pee in my purse
 
p, as in pence, like cents. 100 to a pound
 
 
body language
 
Sandra to Tony: Ere body language, Tony. pushes her out of the way
 
Thinks people might think he is coming on to Leah
 
 
y'arl
 
Betty yelling at Sandra
 
 
hewer
 
Betty yelling at Sandra
 
•Not sure, but could be phonetic + accent for "whore." •to answer both if said together would be you ole whore, or you old whore = hooker
 
 
Rotherhithe
 
where the Anchor Pub is; where is it exactly
 
Rotherithe is right next to Bermondsey, at the southern end of the Rotherithe tunnel which goes under the river Thames.
 
 
never came down with the last shower
 
Sandra to Ste's question how Sandra knows
 
It rains a lot in England. So the last shower was probably very recently. Similar to: "I wasn't born yesterday."
 
 
autumnal shades
 
Sandra: there's a box of _ _ by me bed. referring to kleenex?
 
•Ah, but fancy ones! •I think this was meant to be a humorous and camp reference to tissues.
 
 
I think you got your eye wiped there
 
Sandra to Ste about Lesboa
 
 
swish
 
it's pretty swish; describing The Anchor Pub
 
Fancy
 
 
slap
 
Leah: bake me face in half a ton o' slap
 
•Makeup •Slap = cosmetics, ugly women or some men for that matter 'slap' it on
 
 
tong
 
Leah: tong me hair in yesterday's lacquer
 
•Lacquer is applied with a tong. •Heated hairdressing implement used to curl your hair
 
 
dickey
 
Louise is sitting on the couch, dickey dolled up for a night out
 
 
tiles
 
Louise is dolled up for a night out on the tiles
 
•Out on the town. •tiles = night on the town, or a night out
 
 
frock
 
Sandra is in a new full-length frock
 
Dress. (implies it's a little cheap)
 
 
intya
 
Jamie: going to Woolwich, intya
 
Aren't you
 
 
crawl
 
Louise: Pub crawl then Stars Nightclub
 
•Drinking at several successive pubs. •Tradition in England, basically stopping for a one or maybe two beers in a pub and then moving onto another one, the challenge is to make it to as many different pubs in a night as you can, consuming lots of alcohol on the way, the fresh air helps speed the effects of the alcohol in your system, therefore you get drunk quicker
 
 
pull
 
Jamie to Sandra: You'll pull dressed like that.
 
•pull men •pull = attract someone who you will hopefully snog
 
 
cheek
 
Louise: Bloody cheek; refering to Jamie
 
rude
 
 
tarty
 
Leah, dressed in her tarty best
 
tart = hooker
 
 
gobsmacked
 
spectator are gobsmacked at the sight of Jamie and Ste
 
•Like someone hit them in the face. Gob = mouth. Stunned •look as if they've just been smacked round the mouth, or another term is shocked
 
 
gawp
 
some spectators stop and gawp
 
stare without realising you're doing it
 
 
gizza
 
Sandra to Leah: gizza little drag on that (cigarette)
 
"Give us a" Give me some...whatever
 
 
fab
 
spectators think the dancing is fab
 
Fabulous
 
 
to be arsed
 
To be bothered (e.g., I can't be arsed.)
 
 
bird
 
Woman/Girl; you know...like "chick"
 
 
Bubble and Squeak
 
A meal made of fried potatoes and other leftover vegetables. Another source told me it's potatoes and cabbage fried.

 

bunking off
 
Skipping school; bumming around; goofing off
 
 
the Council
 
Local government
 
 
Council Estates
 
Government housing like the blocks of apartments where the movie is set; the projects.
 
 
Cor
 
Wow!
 
 
Gateways
 
A supermarket
 
 
to grass
 
To tell on; to snitch
 
 
kip
 
Nap. Rest
 
 
knackered
 
Dead tired. Beat
 
 
knock about
 
"Knock about" is to soccer what "playing catch" is to baseball. (And I know 99.99% already know that soccer is called football over there, so I won't even mention it...but, hey, you never know.) Also means, just doing stuff.
 
 
pissed
 
No, it doesn't mean "angry" over there. It means "drunk."
 
 
Pukka
 
A word of Anglo-Indian (Hindi) origin. Defined by the Concise Oxford Dictionary as "genuine; of good quality, reliable; of full weight"
 
 
shag
 
Fuck
 
 
shell suit
 
Jogging suit made from synthetic fibres
 
 
shite
 
Shit. Used interchangeably
 
 
slag
 
Slut, tramp, etc.
 
 
slapper
 
see slag
 
 
slash
 
Piss, e.g., "have a slash," "take a slash." (Thanks to Terry Gaetz of Cambridge, MA.)
 
 
snap
 
In the context of the movie, it means "the same" or in a more confrontational mode "right back at you."
From a very simple card game for children which works like this: Deal out all the cards. Each player keeps his own stack, face down. Each in turn turns over the top card, onto a second pile for each player. As soon as two upturned cards are seen to have equal value (suit immaterial), the first player to shout "snap" wins all the upturned cards and adds them to his own face-down stack, at the bottom. Continue. The winner is the player who accumulates all the cards.
 
 
spliff
 
A tobacco cigarette into which either marijuana, hash hish or hash oil has been put.
 
 
spots
 
zits
 
 
Stringfellow's
 
A hettie night club
 
 
Ta
 
Thanks
 
 
wanker
 
Wanker is actually slang for the penis itself. Referring to someone as a wanker in England is the same as calling them a dick in the U.S. Wanking off would be masturbating, just like jerking off is in the U.S.

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Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 08:55:10 -0800
From: Jay
Subject: Compiled slang list -Reply
 
Bravo Ralph! You get the BT Service Award of the Week for you
marvelous efforts in compling the HTML BT Glossary! Thanks!

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Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 23:12:05 -0800
Subject: Re: Compiled slang list
From: OWall
 
Great job, Ralf! Thanks a lot for compiling that list.
Olaf.

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Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 22:36:10 -0500
Subject: Re: Compiled slang list
 
Is this page up somewhere? I can link it from my glossary page, or if
you want, I'll just post it there with the appropriate creds.
Stay beautiful,
August from Boston
 
Ralf Jaeckle wrote:
>
> Thank you to everyone who contributed for the terms and expressions
> list. I compiled all inputs into a convenient HTML table. To view the
> table just copy and paste the HTML code below into your favourite text
> editor, save the file and open it in your browser.
>
> Davie, how about posting this table on one of the pages of the BT
> website?
>
>
> Ralf

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From: "JOE
Subject: Re: Compiled slang list
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 19:38:59 -0600
 
> From: Olaf
> Subject: Re: Compiled slang list
> Date: Friday, March 07, 1997 1:12 AM
>
> Great job, Ralf! Thanks a lot for compiling that list.
>
> Olaf.
Definitely. I saved it as an HTML file and printed it out. Now I've just
got to read through the stage play and see if there are any other terms
that don't appear in the screenplay. :)
Gary

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From: "David
Subject: FINALLY!!
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 19:40:20 -0000
 
Okay, at last I have the answer to all the confusion over whether or not FTGate sends copies of articles back to the author.
Quoting the author of FTGate...
"The list server doesn't return a message to the sender, it used to, but it
got so many complaints I removed it. I should have put a switch on it
though. It'll go into the good ideas list to be implemented.
Regards
Richard
Floosietek Ltd."
The confusion came about because I upgraded the version of FTGate I'm using about three or four weeks ago.
So now you know - you will NOT receive your own posts to the list.
Davie.

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Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 09:42:13 -0500
From: JW
Subject: Beautiful Thing Merchandise
 
Does anyone know when or if BT merchandise will be available? I know there
was some discussion about having T-Shirts, mugs, mouse pads available, but I
haven't seen any thing more. Is any of it out in England? What's the best
way to order this kind of stuff from the States if it doesn't show up over
here? I mean, can it be as easy as sending a check in $US? If anyone
knows, spread the word.

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Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 09:42:14 -0500
From: JW
Subject: One of my Favorite Scenes
 
I was re-reading the screenplay last night where Ste is sitting on Jamie's
bed after being beaten up by Ronnie and Trevor. (Oh when Oh when are we
going to get the video??!!!) The stage directions say how Jamie doesn't
know how to respond to Ste's being beaten. Jamie offers Ste the bottle of
Diet Coke, "Ste takes a swig, rubs his eyes, then winces as his ribs hurt.
He puts the bottle on the floor and rolls the front of his T-shirt up.
Jamie stares at the bruises on Ste's chest. There are footsteps outside the
bedroom door and a knock. Ste rolls his T-shirt down. Sandra calls to them
from the hall."
I comment on this because the simple stage directions do not truely reflect
the sexual tension revealed the way the scene is played out on the screen.
First, we don't see Ste's chest. We only see Jamie's reaction to the
ugliness of the wounds Ste has received at the hands of Trevor and Ronnie.
We can imagine and I think our having to imagine makes it all the more
worse. We have to imagine from Jamie's grimace and shock as he stares at
them. It's as if Ste is embarrased to show them to us, the "audience" and
we have to rely on Jamie's reaction of horror on Jamie's face and then
tenderness and sympathy to know how bad the bruises really are. I mean it's
as if we are a third person standing in the room with them and it's just how
it would play out if we were really there.
Second, the stage directions say "There are footsteps outside the bedroom
door and a knock." I don't remember hearing footsteps in the movie. I
don't think Jamie hears the footsteps either. I don't think he's aware of
anything else except Ste's bare and brusied chest in front of him. The
reason that I don't think Jamie hears the footsteps is Sandra's sudden
knocking on the door causes Jamie to really start and to physically jump out
of his trance. This really hit me from the very first time I saw the movie.
I can feel the tension of having to look at a friend who has been beaten.
Something that he is sharing with me and I have many other thoughts going
through my mind. Jamie I think is startled because of the suddenness of the
knocking, the abrupt interuption of sharing an intimate and tender moment
with Ste and because of the physical brutality of the beating Ste has just
taken. My not being able to hear the footsteps prior to the knock may have
been the quality of the sound system in the theater, but the suddenness of
the knocking, the shock of being interupted, and Jamie's jumping at the
knocking make the scene all the more well acted out.

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From: "David
Subject: Re: Beautiful Thing Merchandise
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 17:00:06 -0000
----------
From: JW
Subject: Beautiful Thing Merchandise
Date: 08 March 1997 14:42
"Does anyone know when or if BT merchandise will be available? I know there
was some discussion about having T-Shirts, mugs, mouse pads available, but I
haven't seen any thing more. Is any of it out in England? What's the best
way to order this kind of stuff from the States if it doesn't show up over
here? I mean, can it be as easy as sending a check in $US? If anyone
knows, spread the word."
Andi and are working to secure world rights to the B.T. image and title so we can offer an online ordering service ourselves. The TV company doesn't seem to realize the potential but that should change soon.
We have already lined up the secure server needed to take credit-card orders, and some suppliers/designs for the range of merchandise.
We intend to reprint the posters and other images, plus tee-shirts, caps, etc., and possibly a tie-up with Body Shop to do a special Peppermint Foot Lotion.
Delivery from the UK to any destination world-wide using Royal Mail (UK postal service) will take from 6-25 days as far as we know, and is not excessively expensive.
We will let you know the moment we have news.
Davie.

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From: "Andi
Subject: Merchandising.. *-Urgent-* Reply to Beautiful@zzapps.demon.co.uk *-Urgent-*
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:39:42 -0000
 
I need your help now.....read on.
I urgently need to know your ideas and thoughts on merchandising for
Beautiful Thing, and I need them now!!
They must be clear, marketable, and project high volume sales. I know this
is a bit of an Ask, but I need a serious arsenal of ideas to throw at
Channel Four if we have any hope of getting the posters and things to you,
for you.
Get your brain going, I have less than 24 hours to get this together.
Andi

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From: Ralf
Subject: AW: Merchandising..
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:35:00 -0800
 
This is what I would suggest:
- mugs with BT logo and/or picture from screen play (which is the same
from the British movie poster, I guess)
- sticker with BT logo (unobstrusive size for the car, transparent)
- T-Shirts (good quality). Maybe one with BT logo, one with the scene
where Jamie asks Ste to dance and "Dance with me" written in nice
letters, one with American poster design, and others
- Polo shirt (also good quality) with small BT logo embroided
- maybe watches
- maybe baseball caps
> ----------
> Von: Andi Rossi
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Mrz 1997 15:39
> Betreff: Merchandising.. *-Urgent-* Reply to
> Dringlichkeit: Hoch
>
> I need your help now.....read on.
>
> I urgently need to know your ideas and thoughts on merchandising for
> Beautiful Thing, and I need them now!!
>
> They must be clear, marketable, and project high volume sales. I know
> this
> is a bit of an Ask, but I need a serious arsenal of ideas to throw at
> Channel Four if we have any hope of getting the posters and things to
> you,
> for you.
>
> Get your brain going, I have less than 24 hours to get this together.
>
> Andi

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From: "David
Subject: Merchandising
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 16:32:06 -0000
 
Hi fans!
What Andi failed to mention in his 'URGENT' article is that he has managed to get the negotiations for merchandising rights started with Film Four. I have a feeling we'll get them in a matter of days.
We have prepared our negotiating position and will move fast to conclude an agreement.
Your help in putting together the range of merchandise is crucial. We have to source and cost it, allowing for a royalty to Film Four, International Shipping, and our own costs.
Next we have to get credit-card merchant facilities put in place. Here in the UK companies without retail stores have problems getting card companies to authorise them, so we might have to look for an agency, either here in the USA, to take card payments on our behalf. If you know of an agency let us know.
Finally, we have to write the merchandising pages for the web, advertise them, and install the secure ordering system.
We will also obtain a new URL for the web - www.beautiful-thing.org
My idea's are:
Tee-shirt
Baseball cap
Calendar - what year though!?
Bumper sticker "I <heart> Beautiful Thing" ?
Mug/Cup
Prints of original movie posters from UK and USA
Peppermint Foot Lotion gift pack
Video
CD
Screen play book
Stage play book
Mouse mat
Pin badge
Stickers
Davie
CEO, Digiville Limited
Editor, Beautiful Thing web

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 12:36:18 -0500 (EST)
From: CARMEN
Subject: Merch
 
Hi Andi!
1) White t-shirt, small BT logo over left breast. (quiet and
understated, for those not out, etc.)
2) 1), with larger logo over left breast.
3) 2). with very large BT logo on the back.
4) 2), with image of Jamie and Ste dancing on the back.
5) 2), with image on the back from chase scene...perhaps when Jamie is
giving Ste a hand up. (Like 1), not as obviously gay, but those who have
seen the film will remember what comes next!)
6) 2), with image on the back from the Hello! conversation.
7) 2), with image (back or front) of the UK poster, which I believe is
the same Image as on the sceenplay?
8) 2), with image on the back from the party (when Jamie and Ste are
talking outside by the lake).
9) 2), with image from the Gloucester. Perhaps with Jonathan in the image?
10) 2), with image on the back from the Peppermint Foot Lotion scene.
All t-Shirts with images could also be done with a small image of the
scene on the back just under the BT logo on the left breast.
11) 10) could be tied into a BodyShop/Beautiful Thing special event of some
sort, perhaps involving the launch of a (limited edition?) special
Peppermint Foot Lotion with the BT logo on it. Depending on interest
from the BodyShop, this might be expanded to a full line of male
toiletries...aftershave, shaving cream, antipersperant etc., etc., You'd
have to fill in the rest, I'm not exactly up on men's toiletries!
12)Baseball caps with BT logo, in various colours (Black, Navy Blue,
Royal Blue, Pale Blue, Red, Forest Green, but not Pink or Yellow, or the
Logo won't show up clearly).
13) Posters: All of the international film posters, and also ones with
images from the film (See 4)-10) ).
14) Sweatshirts (100% cotton for summer and 50/50 or 35/65
cotton/polyester (winter weight)) with images/logos (See 1)- 10) ).
15) Mugs with BT logo and/or images.
16) Ties with the pattern of the wallpaper from the Sony BT site, various
colours.
17) BT logo earrings. Single or pairs. Could be silver, gold, or
cloisonne with the BT logo in colour. Also J+S earrings or one with J,
one with S.
That's all for now, but I'll keep brainstorming!
Good Luck!
Tory

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 13:10:51 -0500 (EST)
From: CARMEN
Subject: Merch#2
 
More ideas:
18) A *real* soundtrack. (I think Davie's mentioned this before)
20) Swim-trunks? I'd suggest swimsuits as well, but I suspect that your
female clientele is going to be rather small, and I already have two
suits! :-)
21) Jeans with the Logo on the back pocket.
22) Bookmarks?
23) Boxers with the logo on them.
24) Towels, beach and bath.
25) Weekly series? Just kidding, I think it would probably ruin the magic.
26) Duvets patterned with the Sony wallpaper, possibly with a large BT
logo in the middle or near the top, or patterned with many small BT logos.
27) Sheets, as above.
28) J+S pendant/medallion (or what ever it is that they call it when a
man wears something that hangs on a neckchain).
29) Stationnary.
30) Post-it notes with quotes from the film on them.
31) Screen-saver.
32) Notebooks/scratch-pads/sketch-books.
33) A cookbook with the favourite recipes of the cast, crew and BT site
editors? Maybe with some contributions from list-members? Possibly with
photos/interviews from everyone involved?
34) Jackets.
I'm running out of ideas, and I've got class in a few moments and need
lunch first, but I'll do some more brainstorming, and see what anyone
else comes up with in the next few hours...
Good Luck, and Think hard!
Tory

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Subject: Re: Merchandising.. *-Urgent-* Reply to Beautiful@zzapps.demon.co.uk *-Urgent-*
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 97 11:01:19 -0800
From: Clem
 
Hey Andi-
I really want a variety of shirts. They can be still taken "straight" from the film or tweaked versions.
I also like the idea of taking cool still shots from the film and tweaking those in Photoshop and making posters of a variety of sizes.
Car stikers are also an idea. I like the static kind that go on the inside of your windows and that you get to take with you when you sell the car.
Maybe something from the Glouster (sp?) pub. Pint glasees or something.
How about a pseudo issue of the Gay Times magazine but with Ste and Jamie's mugs on the cover?
And I think people might be into some serialized fiction involving all the characters. Maybe short stories and maybe plays. And of course, the play itself is going to eventually be put on by some enterprising young college thespians somewhere. This though might be strictly Jonathan Harvey's business matter. I don't know. But there is some cash to be made there.
Oh, I almost forgot, if you get the merchandise rights then everytime there is a revival showing, then with all of us acting as a worldwide network of participants in this venture, your venture, then sales can be pushed in all these venues. With booths and such. We would have to be in the loop for showings but it's doable. What about the Pride festivals that happen world wide every year?
How many people are on this list? There is the core grooup to start with, number-wise.
Does Ch4 expect to sell these rights to the highest bidder? Or are they really unconvinved that there is an interest strong enough to worth bothering about? I mean, if the images and icons are just going to be sitting on a shelf, so to speak,...what the hell? Why are they even hesitating. I know this is serious business and everything must be outfront and above board but please....
You know what though...I'ld really try and concentrate on some of the basics in the beginning...reproductions of the different movie posters and t-shirts. Maybe you could do a limited purchase of rights with the exclusive option to purchase some kind of "full" rights once everyone sees that you can make a go of this success-wise. You don't want to be left holding a batch of stuff no one wants.
I have no idea what worldwide shipping and handling costs are for this kind of thing. I just bought the PAL version of the video and the UK cd at a total, of, let's see, £ 29 but they charged me nearly that much for s & h-- £16. That's over $20. Damn...
You should be able to get Visa/Mastercard or someone to support you, right? They support6 all manner of mail order business' here. Isn't that true there too?
Shit, got a meeting to get to...
late,
clem
 
 
>I need your help now.....read on.
>
>I urgently need to know your ideas and thoughts on merchandising for
>Beautiful Thing, and I need them now!!
>
>They must be clear, marketable, and project high volume sales. I know this
>is a bit of an Ask, but I need a serious arsenal of ideas to throw at
>Channel Four if we have any hope of getting the posters and things to you,
>for you.
>
>Get your brain going, I have less than 24 hours to get this together.
>
>Andi

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From: "David
Subject: Merchandising update
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:58:15 -0000
 
Hi again all,
We're just answering a few questions really...
Clem...
No bidding for the rights - we're the only ones in the frame, so I expect we can pretty much write our own ticket, within recognized bounds. Delays were caused by junior staff not recognising the potential.
Once we have the rights we decide what merchandise to manufacture and sell.
Shipping costs for North America on a Tee-shirt will be around £2.50, and we ***think*** the tee-shirt will retail for £18 - this is with full colour prints front and back. These prices are UK pound sterling.
We have 108 list subscribers.
Beautiful Thing will be showing on UK TV either this winter or next spring.
 
Davie.
CEO, Digiville.

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