Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:45:23 -0600 (CST)
From: Jason
Subject: movie poster...
Here's a story about how my friend and I got our Beautiful Thing movie
posters:
Beautiful Thing played at the local art house theater in Minneapolis, the
Lagoon. The Lagoon and its sister theater, the Uptown, never give away
their posters and instead have an semi-annual poster sale. Brian (who is
also on the list, and should get a kick out of this) and I called ahead
of time to find out if there would be BT posters available, and they
said, yes, there would be two.
The poster sale started early in the morning on a Saturday, and since
both Brian and I are students, that's usually our day to sleep in. And
as the morning approached, I began to have second thoughts on how badly I
wanted my own BT poster. But I got up in the morning, and called Brian,
and he showed up at the dorm. We drove out to the theater and parked,
and I believe we got there about a half hour before the sale started.
There were two in line ahead of us, and I recognized them from the final
showing of BT a week or so before. I whispered this to Brian, and we
assumed there would be a lot of competition for the posters. More people
started to show up, as well, and I recognized a lot of people in line
behind us from the showing. Uh, oh.
They opened the door to the theater and we all raced up the stairs to the
second level, where all the posters were rolled up in boxes according to
the the first letter of the title. There was a stampede to the B box.
Five or six of us were gathered around all sides of the box, pulling out
posters and looking at the hand-written name at the end, with others
watching over our shoulders. After digging in the box for over a minute,
getting more and more frustrated, I started pulling out five posters at a
time, on on each finger, and then.....lo and behold....the two posters
together!!! I grabbed them, and backed away from the box, motioning for
Brian to follow me. I gave him one, and watched as the others kept
digging, for they didn't know that we had gotten the only two! Brian
wanted to keep looking, but the longer the others dug, the more edgy I
got, and we finally left. I didn't want to face an angry mob of gay men
being denied their Beautiful Thing posters. :-)
So, that's how Brian and I got our posters. And it was worth getting up
early on a Saturday, too.
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- Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 06:56:55 -0600 (CST)
- From: BRIAN
- Subject: Re: movie poster...
-
- > Beautiful Thing played at the local art house theater in Minneapolis, the
- > Lagoon. The Lagoon and its sister theater, the Uptown, never give away
- > their posters and instead have an semi-annual poster sale. Brian (who is
- > also on the list, and should get a kick out of this) and I called ahead
- > of time to find out if there would be BT posters available, and they
- > said, yes, there would be two.
- Hi, I'm 'Brian', and I did get a kick out of this, Jason :)
- I am staring at my framed copy of one of the only two BT posters I know
- of in Minnesota :)
**************************************************************
- From: Ralf
- Subject: Compiled slang list
- Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:23:05 -0800
-
- Thank you to everyone who contributed for the terms and expressions
- list. I compiled all inputs into a convenient HTML table. To view the
- table just copy and paste the HTML code below into your favourite text
- editor, save the file and open it in your browser.
- Davie, how about posting this table on one of the pages of the BT
- website?
- Thanks again to GW, Gary , Tony , Simon , Rupert
- . The comments were a great help for me.
- Ralf
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- form tutor
-
- Miss Chauhan's the kids form tutor
-
- A form tutor is a teacher who has responsibility for a class (or "form")
of pupils Teacher nominally in charge of attendance. Form = Grade For me my
Form Tutor was the teacher that recorded my attendance every morning and afternoon as well
as teaching their own subject for the length of my stay at the school. Each class of
approx. 20-30 students had their own form tutor
-
-
- proverbial
-
- Miss Chauhan to the kids about Mr. Bennett: You, for the next hour, must think that the
sun shines out his proverbial.
-
- The sun shines out of his arse. By saying "proverbial" she means
"use the slang word" Asshole (Arsehole)
-
-
- brassy
-
- Leah is sixteen, brassy, attractive
-
- Confident, loud, arrogant. I think that this term is northern in origin, but I
don't know much more about it Loud, assertive Brassy normally means Bold,
Brash, but also another word for hooker, as in 'you old brass'
-
-
- scally
-
- attractive in a scally way
-
- This is really a Liverpudlian term. It means rascallish, sort of
-
-
- mule
-
- the toe of her right mule
-
- A slipper that has no counter or strap to fit around the heel
-
-
- exocet
-
- Sandra cast Leah an exocet glance
-
- Exocet is a type of missile - so "an exocet glance" is a kind of
post-modern way of saying that she glared daggers! As in very accurate missile from
the Falklands war
-
-
- care
-
- They'll put you into care
-
- Into the care of the local authority - i.e. a children's home Foster Home
-
-
- tuts
-
- Jamie tuts as Sandra goes inside
-
- To "tut" is literally what it sounds like. It's a clicking noise made with the
tongue, to register disapproval
-
-
- tuts
-
- Leah (tuts): Singing
-
- see above
-
-
- four-pack
-
- Ronnie carrying plastic bag w/ four-pack
-
- A four-pack of beers/lagers
-
-
- puffa jacket
-
- he wears a puffa jacket
-
- A large, ribbed jacket. Fashionable amongst "lads" a few years ago, and
again this year Bomber Jacket
-
-
- Libs
-
- Leah (tuts): Libs!
-
- Libs, short for Liberties, as in 'they're taking liberties (advantage) of me'
-
-
- tea
-
- Ste: I'm doing the tea
-
- Tea = dinner. Presumably derived from the term "high tea", meaning a
late afternoon meal. This term is rarely used today, but "tea" lives on!
In order, Breakfast, Lunch, Tea/Dinner, Supper
-
-
- Hoover bag
-
- wouldn't be the bloody Hoover bag
-
- Vacuum cleaner bag (Hoover is the leading brand of vacuum cleaner in the UK)
-
-
- duvet
-
- Ste smoothes down the duvet
-
- Continental quilt Comforter
-
-
- beetroot
-
- the one with the beetroot's for Tony
-
- Juicy purple root vegetable
-
-
- off
-
- Sandra goes into the hallway, ready for the off
-
- Ready to leave, i.e. to set "off"
-
-
- mush
-
- Trevor: Oi! Mush! calling Leah
-
- Mush = mouth, as in you've got ice cream round your mush
-
-
- Ecstacy
-
- pile of Ecstacy tablets
-
- Ecstacy = "e". Recreational drug popular in youth culture.
-
-
- East End Boy
-
- Rodney is an East End boy
-
- He is from the East End of London Working class district of London I
object to Simon Steven's comment about working class area of london ;-), It used to be
that way quite a few years ago, but in the last 20 years it has moved somewhat upmarket.
It basically means he grew up in the east end of london, same as someone who grew up in
north london is, (surprise, surprise) a north london boy.
-
-
- top and tail
-
- Sandra: You'll have to top and tail with Jamie
-
- Head to toe. Sleeping arrangement Basically one sleeps in the bed one way
and the other the opposite way, Therefore Jamie's head would be next to Ste's feet and
vice versa.
-
-
- bang on
-
- Ste: Cheese and Salad. Bang on food
-
- Bang on = hits the target! Just right! Good, perfect Right on, exactly
-
-
- two fingers up
-
- Sandra puts two fingers up at the driver
-
- She makes a "V" sign - meaning "up yours!" Flipping the
bird - English style. Index and second finger extended, palm inward. Oposite of
hippy peace symbol
-
-
- forty Silk Cut
-
- Leah walking in car park carrying forty Silk Cut
-
- A brand of cigarette
-
-
- Linda Lusardi
-
- husband refering to Marlene
-
- A soft porn model turned TV presenter A topless model in one of our tabloid
papers for a while
-
-
- footy top
-
- Ste in his footy top and jogging bottoms
-
- Football (soccer) shirt
-
-
- full stop
-
- Ste: I don't speak. Full stop.
-
- Means the same as "Period" in the North American vernacular
-
-
- nicks
-
- Leah nicks one of Sandra's cigarettes
-
- Steals
-
-
- butter
-
- butter wouldn't melt; Sandra to Jamie
-
- Butter wouldn't melt in his mouth - i.e. he's so saintly "in his
mouth" Cool customer
-
-
- not on his own
-
- Jamie's not on his own, the on walkway
-
- He's not by himself
-
-
- goat
-
- Ronnie starts acting the goat
-
- Cranky (I guess, context?) Goat = playing the fool, being a jester
-
-
- Body Shop bottle
-
- Jamie gets a small Body Shop bottle
-
- Up market cosmetics store
-
-
- skew-whiff
-
- the covers skew-whiff
-
- Askew In a state of disarray, not straight
-
-
- rave
-
- Leah dolled up the the nines after a night at a rave
-
- A rave is an underground gathering of people who dance the night away to hardcore
dance music. Has links with "e" (see earlier description) American again.
All night dance party. Often E enduced Rave = a place people go to dance normally in
out of use warehouses and the ravers (people) are normally assisted by drugs of some kind
or another
-
-
- corporation houses
-
- street of corporation houses
-
- Public housing
-
-
- ravey
-
- ravey music blasts out
-
- see above
-
-
- shimmies
-
- Gina is shaking her shimmies dancing
-
- Legs? I could be wrong but this sometimes refers to breasts
-
-
- snogging
-
- boy and girl lie on bed snogging
-
- French kissing Kissing, making out
-
-
- scrag
-
- hauls Leah to her feet by the scrag of her hair
-
- In this case I think it means a handful of hair
-
-
- wank
-
- have a wank; Sandra to Ryan
-
- Masturbate. The standard British term for this. Incidentally, the phrase
"wanker" is a term of derision Jerk off
-
-
- big bullocks
-
- Sandra to Ryan
-
- Big balls
-
-
- twatting
-
- Leah to Ste: he's been twatting the face offa you
-
- Twatting in this instance means hitting, the word twat is also another name for the
vagina
-
-
- Meridian
-
- Tony inviting Sandra to the park legs astride the Meridian
-
- The Greenwich Meridian. This is the line of 0 degrees latitude, so that when
you're astride it you're in the east and west at the same time! As in Greenwich
meridian. 0 degrees longitude. It's engraved in the ground in Greenwich, London.
-
-
- rota
-
- I gotta sort out the week's rota
-
- Work timetable Roster
-
-
- Home & Away
-
- Sandra to Ste about Noleen: very Home and Away
-
- Home and Away is a popular Australian soap. Sandra simply means that the name Noleen has
an Australian sound to it, as it's typical of the names of the characters in such soaps
(in her opinion)
-
-
- camps
-
- Jamie camps (hams?) it up a bit
-
- To be camp is to be a bit effeminate. Swishes about. Acts campy. "To
act effeminate" is the best term for this
-
-
- sort me out
-
- Sandra to Tony in bed
-
- Have sex with me
-
-
- butchers
-
- Jamie's look when he passes Ste the Gay Times. Have a butchers at that,' he seems to say
with his smile.
-
- Take a look at that butchers is slang 'Butchers hook = look'
-
-
- thick git
-
- Ste gives a look as though to say 'Thick git.'
-
- Stupid idiot
-
-
- over-the-top lounge
-
- picture of the sofa in the catalogue in an _ _ _
-
- Overdone, too much, tacky.
-
-
- git
-
- Sandra: my little git of a son
-
- Idiot git = pain in the ass / annoying person
-
-
- 180 bus
-
- Jamie boarding a red 180 bus
-
- The number 180 bus
-
-
- petal
-
- DQ: what's your name petal?
-
- Sweet Affectionate term for a person.
-
-
- shimmies
-
- DQ shimmies around to Ste
-
-
- trar
-
- DQ: Trar
-
- Bye! Slang tara = goodbye
-
-
- snogs
-
- snogs the golly off him; Ste kissing Jamie
-
- Ste kisses Jamie
-
-
- golly
-
- snogs the golly off him; Ste kissing Jamie
-
-
-
- nobshiner
-
- Jamie to Tony; what Jamie is
-
- Knob = dick Likes to polish dicks.
-
-
- brown hatter
-
- Jamie to Tony; what Jamie is
-
- Europeans aren't usually circumsized. You figure it out Can happen during
anal sex if the passive partner hasn't prepared correctly. another term for something
similar is fudge nudger/packer, or uphill gardener
-
-
- shirtflaplifter
-
- Jamie to Tony; what Jamie is
-
- Self explanatory. Incidentally our favourite in Suffolk was "knobjockey"
-
-
- Bermondsley
-
- where Jamie was born? where is it?
-
- Bermondsey is in London South London as in South of the river Thames
-
-
- bullocks to benefit
-
- Sandra: Council saying bullocks to benefit; not helping?
-
- Benefit = welfare. She was denied
-
-
- pee
-
- Sandra: three pee in my purse
-
- p, as in pence, like cents. 100 to a pound
-
-
- body language
-
- Sandra to Tony: Ere body language, Tony. pushes her out of the way
-
- Thinks people might think he is coming on to Leah
-
-
- y'arl
-
- Betty yelling at Sandra
-
-
- hewer
-
- Betty yelling at Sandra
-
- Not sure, but could be phonetic + accent for "whore." to answer
both if said together would be you ole whore, or you old whore = hooker
-
-
- Rotherhithe
-
- where the Anchor Pub is; where is it exactly
-
- Rotherithe is right next to Bermondsey, at the southern end of the Rotherithe tunnel
which goes under the river Thames.
-
-
- never came down with the last shower
-
- Sandra to Ste's question how Sandra knows
-
- It rains a lot in England. So the last shower was probably very recently. Similar to:
"I wasn't born yesterday."
-
-
- autumnal shades
-
- Sandra: there's a box of _ _ by me bed. referring to kleenex?
-
- Ah, but fancy ones! I think this was meant to be a humorous and camp
reference to tissues.
-
-
- I think you got your eye wiped there
-
- Sandra to Ste about Lesboa
-
-
- swish
-
- it's pretty swish; describing The Anchor Pub
-
- Fancy
-
-
- slap
-
- Leah: bake me face in half a ton o' slap
-
- Makeup Slap = cosmetics, ugly women or some men for that matter 'slap' it on
-
-
- tong
-
- Leah: tong me hair in yesterday's lacquer
-
- Lacquer is applied with a tong. Heated hairdressing implement used to curl
your hair
-
-
- dickey
-
- Louise is sitting on the couch, dickey dolled up for a night out
-
-
- tiles
-
- Louise is dolled up for a night out on the tiles
-
- Out on the town. tiles = night on the town, or a night out
-
-
- frock
-
- Sandra is in a new full-length frock
-
- Dress. (implies it's a little cheap)
-
-
- intya
-
- Jamie: going to Woolwich, intya
-
- Aren't you
-
-
- crawl
-
- Louise: Pub crawl then Stars Nightclub
-
- Drinking at several successive pubs. Tradition in England, basically
stopping for a one or maybe two beers in a pub and then moving onto another one, the
challenge is to make it to as many different pubs in a night as you can, consuming lots of
alcohol on the way, the fresh air helps speed the effects of the alcohol in your system,
therefore you get drunk quicker
-
-
- pull
-
- Jamie to Sandra: You'll pull dressed like that.
-
- pull men pull = attract someone who you will hopefully snog
-
-
- cheek
-
- Louise: Bloody cheek; refering to Jamie
-
- rude
-
-
- tarty
-
- Leah, dressed in her tarty best
-
- tart = hooker
-
-
- gobsmacked
-
- spectator are gobsmacked at the sight of Jamie and Ste
-
- Like someone hit them in the face. Gob = mouth. Stunned look as if they've
just been smacked round the mouth, or another term is shocked
-
-
- gawp
-
- some spectators stop and gawp
-
- stare without realising you're doing it
-
-
- gizza
-
- Sandra to Leah: gizza little drag on that (cigarette)
-
- "Give us a" Give me some...whatever
-
-
- fab
-
- spectators think the dancing is fab
-
- Fabulous
-
-
- to be arsed
-
- To be bothered (e.g., I can't be arsed.)
-
-
- bird
-
- Woman/Girl; you know...like "chick"
-
-
- Bubble and Squeak
-
- A meal made of fried potatoes and other leftover vegetables. Another source told me it's
potatoes and cabbage fried.
- bunking off
-
- Skipping school; bumming around; goofing off
-
-
- the Council
-
- Local government
-
-
- Council Estates
-
- Government housing like the blocks of apartments where the movie is set; the projects.
-
-
- Cor
-
- Wow!
-
-
- Gateways
-
- A supermarket
-
-
- to grass
-
- To tell on; to snitch
-
-
- kip
-
- Nap. Rest
-
-
- knackered
-
- Dead tired. Beat
-
-
- knock about
-
- "Knock about" is to soccer what "playing catch" is to baseball. (And
I know 99.99% already know that soccer is called football over there, so I won't even
mention it...but, hey, you never know.) Also means, just doing stuff.
-
-
- pissed
-
- No, it doesn't mean "angry" over there. It means "drunk."
-
-
- Pukka
-
- A word of Anglo-Indian (Hindi) origin. Defined by the Concise Oxford Dictionary as
"genuine; of good quality, reliable; of full weight"
-
-
- shag
-
- Fuck
-
-
- shell suit
-
- Jogging suit made from synthetic fibres
-
-
- shite
-
- Shit. Used interchangeably
-
-
- slag
-
- Slut, tramp, etc.
-
-
- slapper
-
- see slag
-
-
- slash
-
- Piss, e.g., "have a slash," "take a slash." (Thanks to Terry Gaetz
of Cambridge, MA.)
-
-
- snap
-
- In the context of the movie, it means "the same" or in a more confrontational
mode "right back at you."
- From a very simple card game for children which works like this: Deal out all the cards.
Each player keeps his own stack, face down. Each in turn turns over the top card, onto a
second pile for each player. As soon as two upturned cards are seen to have equal value
(suit immaterial), the first player to shout "snap" wins all the upturned cards
and adds them to his own face-down stack, at the bottom. Continue. The winner is the
player who accumulates all the cards.
-
-
- spliff
-
- A tobacco cigarette into which either marijuana, hash hish or hash oil has been put.
-
-
- spots
-
- zits
-
-
- Stringfellow's
-
- A hettie night club
-
-
- Ta
-
- Thanks
-
-
- wanker
-
- Wanker is actually slang for the penis itself. Referring to someone as a wanker in
England is the same as calling them a dick in the U.S. Wanking off would be masturbating,
just like jerking off is in the U.S.
**************************************************************
- Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 08:55:10 -0800
- From: Jay
- Subject: Compiled slang list -Reply
-
- Bravo Ralph! You get the BT Service Award of the Week for you
- marvelous efforts in compling the HTML BT Glossary! Thanks!
**************************************************************
- Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 23:12:05 -0800
- Subject: Re: Compiled slang list
- From: OWall
-
- Great job, Ralf! Thanks a lot for compiling that list.
- Olaf.
**************************************************************
- Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 22:36:10 -0500
- Subject: Re: Compiled slang list
-
- Is this page up somewhere? I can link it from my glossary page, or if
- you want, I'll just post it there with the appropriate creds.
- Stay beautiful,
- August from Boston
-
- Ralf Jaeckle wrote:
- >
- > Thank you to everyone who contributed for the terms and expressions
- > list. I compiled all inputs into a convenient HTML table. To view the
- > table just copy and paste the HTML code below into your favourite text
- > editor, save the file and open it in your browser.
- >
- > Davie, how about posting this table on one of the pages of the BT
- > website?
- >
- >
- > Ralf
**************************************************************
- From: "JOE
- Subject: Re: Compiled slang list
- Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 19:38:59 -0600
-
- > From: Olaf
- > Subject: Re: Compiled slang list
- > Date: Friday, March 07, 1997 1:12 AM
- >
- > Great job, Ralf! Thanks a lot for compiling that list.
- >
- > Olaf.
- Definitely. I saved it as an HTML file and printed it out. Now I've just
- got to read through the stage play and see if there are any other terms
- that don't appear in the screenplay. :)
- Gary
**************************************************************
- From: "David
- Subject: FINALLY!!
- Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 19:40:20 -0000
-
- Okay, at last I have the answer to all the confusion over whether or not FTGate sends
copies of articles back to the author.
- Quoting the author of FTGate...
- "The list server doesn't return a message to the sender, it used to, but it
- got so many complaints I removed it. I should have put a switch on it
- though. It'll go into the good ideas list to be implemented.
- Regards
- Richard
- Floosietek Ltd."
- The confusion came about because I upgraded the version of FTGate I'm using about three
or four weeks ago.
- So now you know - you will NOT receive your own posts to the list.
- Davie.
**************************************************************
- Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 09:42:13 -0500
- From: JW
- Subject: Beautiful Thing Merchandise
-
- Does anyone know when or if BT merchandise will be available? I know there
- was some discussion about having T-Shirts, mugs, mouse pads available, but I
- haven't seen any thing more. Is any of it out in England? What's the best
- way to order this kind of stuff from the States if it doesn't show up over
- here? I mean, can it be as easy as sending a check in $US? If anyone
- knows, spread the word.
**************************************************************
- Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 09:42:14 -0500
- From: JW
- Subject: One of my Favorite Scenes
-
- I was re-reading the screenplay last night where Ste is sitting on Jamie's
- bed after being beaten up by Ronnie and Trevor. (Oh when Oh when are we
- going to get the video??!!!) The stage directions say how Jamie doesn't
- know how to respond to Ste's being beaten. Jamie offers Ste the bottle of
- Diet Coke, "Ste takes a swig, rubs his eyes, then winces as his ribs hurt.
- He puts the bottle on the floor and rolls the front of his T-shirt up.
- Jamie stares at the bruises on Ste's chest. There are footsteps outside the
- bedroom door and a knock. Ste rolls his T-shirt down. Sandra calls to them
- from the hall."
- I comment on this because the simple stage directions do not truely reflect
- the sexual tension revealed the way the scene is played out on the screen.
- First, we don't see Ste's chest. We only see Jamie's reaction to the
- ugliness of the wounds Ste has received at the hands of Trevor and Ronnie.
- We can imagine and I think our having to imagine makes it all the more
- worse. We have to imagine from Jamie's grimace and shock as he stares at
- them. It's as if Ste is embarrased to show them to us, the "audience" and
- we have to rely on Jamie's reaction of horror on Jamie's face and then
- tenderness and sympathy to know how bad the bruises really are. I mean it's
- as if we are a third person standing in the room with them and it's just how
- it would play out if we were really there.
- Second, the stage directions say "There are footsteps outside the bedroom
- door and a knock." I don't remember hearing footsteps in the movie. I
- don't think Jamie hears the footsteps either. I don't think he's aware of
- anything else except Ste's bare and brusied chest in front of him. The
- reason that I don't think Jamie hears the footsteps is Sandra's sudden
- knocking on the door causes Jamie to really start and to physically jump out
- of his trance. This really hit me from the very first time I saw the movie.
- I can feel the tension of having to look at a friend who has been beaten.
- Something that he is sharing with me and I have many other thoughts going
- through my mind. Jamie I think is startled because of the suddenness of the
- knocking, the abrupt interuption of sharing an intimate and tender moment
- with Ste and because of the physical brutality of the beating Ste has just
- taken. My not being able to hear the footsteps prior to the knock may have
- been the quality of the sound system in the theater, but the suddenness of
- the knocking, the shock of being interupted, and Jamie's jumping at the
- knocking make the scene all the more well acted out.
**************************************************************
- From: "David
- Subject: Re: Beautiful Thing Merchandise
- Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 17:00:06 -0000
- ----------
- From: JW
- Subject: Beautiful Thing Merchandise
- Date: 08 March 1997 14:42
- "Does anyone know when or if BT merchandise will be available? I know there
- was some discussion about having T-Shirts, mugs, mouse pads available, but I
- haven't seen any thing more. Is any of it out in England? What's the best
- way to order this kind of stuff from the States if it doesn't show up over
- here? I mean, can it be as easy as sending a check in $US? If anyone
- knows, spread the word."
- Andi and are working to secure world rights to the B.T. image and title so we can offer
an online ordering service ourselves. The TV company doesn't seem to realize the potential
but that should change soon.
- We have already lined up the secure server needed to take credit-card orders, and some
suppliers/designs for the range of merchandise.
- We intend to reprint the posters and other images, plus tee-shirts, caps, etc., and
possibly a tie-up with Body Shop to do a special Peppermint Foot Lotion.
- Delivery from the UK to any destination world-wide using Royal Mail (UK postal service)
will take from 6-25 days as far as we know, and is not excessively expensive.
- We will let you know the moment we have news.
- Davie.
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- From: "Andi
- Subject: Merchandising.. *-Urgent-* Reply to Beautiful@zzapps.demon.co.uk *-Urgent-*
- Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:39:42 -0000
-
- I need your help now.....read on.
- I urgently need to know your ideas and thoughts on merchandising for
- Beautiful Thing, and I need them now!!
- They must be clear, marketable, and project high volume sales. I know this
- is a bit of an Ask, but I need a serious arsenal of ideas to throw at
- Channel Four if we have any hope of getting the posters and things to you,
- for you.
- Get your brain going, I have less than 24 hours to get this together.
- Andi
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- From: Ralf
- Subject: AW: Merchandising..
- Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:35:00 -0800
-
- This is what I would suggest:
- - mugs with BT logo and/or picture from screen play (which is the same
- from the British movie poster, I guess)
- - sticker with BT logo (unobstrusive size for the car, transparent)
- - T-Shirts (good quality). Maybe one with BT logo, one with the scene
- where Jamie asks Ste to dance and "Dance with me" written in nice
- letters, one with American poster design, and others
- - Polo shirt (also good quality) with small BT logo embroided
- - maybe watches
- - maybe baseball caps
- > ----------
- > Von: Andi Rossi
- > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Mrz 1997 15:39
- > Betreff: Merchandising.. *-Urgent-* Reply to
- > Dringlichkeit: Hoch
- >
- > I need your help now.....read on.
- >
- > I urgently need to know your ideas and thoughts on merchandising for
- > Beautiful Thing, and I need them now!!
- >
- > They must be clear, marketable, and project high volume sales. I know
- > this
- > is a bit of an Ask, but I need a serious arsenal of ideas to throw at
- > Channel Four if we have any hope of getting the posters and things to
- > you,
- > for you.
- >
- > Get your brain going, I have less than 24 hours to get this together.
- >
- > Andi
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- From: "David
- Subject: Merchandising
- Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 16:32:06 -0000
-
- Hi fans!
- What Andi failed to mention in his 'URGENT' article is that he has managed to get the
negotiations for merchandising rights started with Film Four. I have a feeling we'll get
them in a matter of days.
- We have prepared our negotiating position and will move fast to conclude an agreement.
- Your help in putting together the range of merchandise is crucial. We have to source and
cost it, allowing for a royalty to Film Four, International Shipping, and our own costs.
- Next we have to get credit-card merchant facilities put in place. Here in the UK
companies without retail stores have problems getting card companies to authorise them, so
we might have to look for an agency, either here in the USA, to take card payments on our
behalf. If you know of an agency let us know.
- Finally, we have to write the merchandising pages for the web, advertise them, and
install the secure ordering system.
- We will also obtain a new URL for the web - www.beautiful-thing.org
- My idea's are:
- Tee-shirt
- Baseball cap
- Calendar - what year though!?
- Bumper sticker "I <heart> Beautiful Thing" ?
- Mug/Cup
- Prints of original movie posters from UK and USA
- Peppermint Foot Lotion gift pack
- Video
- CD
- Screen play book
- Stage play book
- Mouse mat
- Pin badge
- Stickers
- Davie
- CEO, Digiville Limited
- Editor, Beautiful Thing web
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- Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 12:36:18 -0500 (EST)
- From: CARMEN
- Subject: Merch
-
- Hi Andi!
- 1) White t-shirt, small BT logo over left breast. (quiet and
- understated, for those not out, etc.)
- 2) 1), with larger logo over left breast.
- 3) 2). with very large BT logo on the back.
- 4) 2), with image of Jamie and Ste dancing on the back.
- 5) 2), with image on the back from chase scene...perhaps when Jamie is
- giving Ste a hand up. (Like 1), not as obviously gay, but those who have
- seen the film will remember what comes next!)
- 6) 2), with image on the back from the Hello! conversation.
- 7) 2), with image (back or front) of the UK poster, which I believe is
- the same Image as on the sceenplay?
- 8) 2), with image on the back from the party (when Jamie and Ste are
- talking outside by the lake).
- 9) 2), with image from the Gloucester. Perhaps with Jonathan in the image?
- 10) 2), with image on the back from the Peppermint Foot Lotion scene.
- All t-Shirts with images could also be done with a small image of the
- scene on the back just under the BT logo on the left breast.
- 11) 10) could be tied into a BodyShop/Beautiful Thing special event of some
- sort, perhaps involving the launch of a (limited edition?) special
- Peppermint Foot Lotion with the BT logo on it. Depending on interest
- from the BodyShop, this might be expanded to a full line of male
- toiletries...aftershave, shaving cream, antipersperant etc., etc., You'd
- have to fill in the rest, I'm not exactly up on men's toiletries!
- 12)Baseball caps with BT logo, in various colours (Black, Navy Blue,
- Royal Blue, Pale Blue, Red, Forest Green, but not Pink or Yellow, or the
- Logo won't show up clearly).
- 13) Posters: All of the international film posters, and also ones with
- images from the film (See 4)-10) ).
- 14) Sweatshirts (100% cotton for summer and 50/50 or 35/65
- cotton/polyester (winter weight)) with images/logos (See 1)- 10) ).
- 15) Mugs with BT logo and/or images.
- 16) Ties with the pattern of the wallpaper from the Sony BT site, various
- colours.
- 17) BT logo earrings. Single or pairs. Could be silver, gold, or
- cloisonne with the BT logo in colour. Also J+S earrings or one with J,
- one with S.
- That's all for now, but I'll keep brainstorming!
- Good Luck!
- Tory
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- Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 13:10:51 -0500 (EST)
- From: CARMEN
- Subject: Merch#2
-
- More ideas:
- 18) A *real* soundtrack. (I think Davie's mentioned this before)
- 20) Swim-trunks? I'd suggest swimsuits as well, but I suspect that your
- female clientele is going to be rather small, and I already have two
- suits! :-)
- 21) Jeans with the Logo on the back pocket.
- 22) Bookmarks?
- 23) Boxers with the logo on them.
- 24) Towels, beach and bath.
- 25) Weekly series? Just kidding, I think it would probably ruin the magic.
- 26) Duvets patterned with the Sony wallpaper, possibly with a large BT
- logo in the middle or near the top, or patterned with many small BT logos.
- 27) Sheets, as above.
- 28) J+S pendant/medallion (or what ever it is that they call it when a
- man wears something that hangs on a neckchain).
- 29) Stationnary.
- 30) Post-it notes with quotes from the film on them.
- 31) Screen-saver.
- 32) Notebooks/scratch-pads/sketch-books.
- 33) A cookbook with the favourite recipes of the cast, crew and BT site
- editors? Maybe with some contributions from list-members? Possibly with
- photos/interviews from everyone involved?
- 34) Jackets.
- I'm running out of ideas, and I've got class in a few moments and need
- lunch first, but I'll do some more brainstorming, and see what anyone
- else comes up with in the next few hours...
- Good Luck, and Think hard!
- Tory
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- Subject: Re: Merchandising.. *-Urgent-* Reply to Beautiful@zzapps.demon.co.uk *-Urgent-*
- Date: Wed, 12 Mar 97 11:01:19 -0800
- From: Clem
-
- Hey Andi-
- I really want a variety of shirts. They can be still taken "straight" from the
film or tweaked versions.
- I also like the idea of taking cool still shots from the film and tweaking those in
Photoshop and making posters of a variety of sizes.
- Car stikers are also an idea. I like the static kind that go on the inside of your
windows and that you get to take with you when you sell the car.
- Maybe something from the Glouster (sp?) pub. Pint glasees or something.
- How about a pseudo issue of the Gay Times magazine but with Ste and Jamie's mugs on the
cover?
- And I think people might be into some serialized fiction involving all the characters.
Maybe short stories and maybe plays. And of course, the play itself is going to eventually
be put on by some enterprising young college thespians somewhere. This though might be
strictly Jonathan Harvey's business matter. I don't know. But there is some cash to be
made there.
- Oh, I almost forgot, if you get the merchandise rights then everytime there is a revival
showing, then with all of us acting as a worldwide network of participants in this
venture, your venture, then sales can be pushed in all these venues. With booths and such.
We would have to be in the loop for showings but it's doable. What about the Pride
festivals that happen world wide every year?
- How many people are on this list? There is the core grooup to start with, number-wise.
- Does Ch4 expect to sell these rights to the highest bidder? Or are they really
unconvinved that there is an interest strong enough to worth bothering about? I mean, if
the images and icons are just going to be sitting on a shelf, so to speak,...what the
hell? Why are they even hesitating. I know this is serious business and everything must be
outfront and above board but please....
- You know what though...I'ld really try and concentrate on some of the basics in the
beginning...reproductions of the different movie posters and t-shirts. Maybe you could do
a limited purchase of rights with the exclusive option to purchase some kind of
"full" rights once everyone sees that you can make a go of this success-wise.
You don't want to be left holding a batch of stuff no one wants.
- I have no idea what worldwide shipping and handling costs are for this kind of thing. I
just bought the PAL version of the video and the UK cd at a total, of, let's see, £ 29
but they charged me nearly that much for s & h-- £16. That's over $20. Damn...
- You should be able to get Visa/Mastercard or someone to support you, right? They
support6 all manner of mail order business' here. Isn't that true there too?
- Shit, got a meeting to get to...
- late,
- clem
-
-
- >I need your help now.....read on.
- >
- >I urgently need to know your ideas and thoughts on merchandising for
- >Beautiful Thing, and I need them now!!
- >
- >They must be clear, marketable, and project high volume sales. I know this
- >is a bit of an Ask, but I need a serious arsenal of ideas to throw at
- >Channel Four if we have any hope of getting the posters and things to you,
- >for you.
- >
- >Get your brain going, I have less than 24 hours to get this together.
- >
- >Andi
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- From: "David
- Subject: Merchandising update
- Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:58:15 -0000
-
- Hi again all,
- We're just answering a few questions really...
- Clem...
- No bidding for the rights - we're the only ones in the frame, so I expect we can pretty
much write our own ticket, within recognized bounds. Delays were caused by junior staff
not recognising the potential.
- Once we have the rights we decide what merchandise to manufacture and sell.
- Shipping costs for North America on a Tee-shirt will be around £2.50, and we
***think*** the tee-shirt will retail for £18 - this is with full colour prints front and
back. These prices are UK pound sterling.
- We have 108 list subscribers.
- Beautiful Thing will be showing on UK TV either this winter or next spring.
-
- Davie.
- CEO, Digiville.
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