Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 11:49:04 -0500

From: Dick

Subject: BT in Spain

Sandra, How lucky you are to be getting the movie on television. I

wonder how long it will take for them to show it on tv here in the

states?? And when they do, they'll probably edit it!! Sandra, enjoy!!

Dick

--

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From: David

Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 14:40:53 -0800

Subject: scenario

Others have written their's for the two lads. Heres mine. After a long

and beautiful life together they reach St.Peter at the "Pearly Gates".

He asks but one question "Did you love?" Each holding the other's hand

and looking into each other's eyes they respond in unison "Yes". " 'Tis

enough" St Peter says "that's all the Lord asked us to do" and lets them

in.

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 21:44:18 +1100 (EST)

From: Andrew

Subject: Re: tid bit

Michael  wrote:

>There was certainly no attempt to get straight actors and most of the

>people who did reply to the SMH advertisement were gay.

>

>Incidentally, the actor playing Ste is openly gay. The director (that's

me)

>is openly gay as are members of the crew. As for the other four actors, I

>haven't asked them.

>

>I hope this clarifies the issue for you.

>

Thanks Michael for clearing that up. It answers all my questions and more.

I can't tell you how much I'm looking forward to seeing it. Do you have a

poster yet?

Andy.

--

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From: Michael

Subject: Re: tid bit

Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:50:49 -0400

Andy

Yes, auditions for the Sydney production were displayed in Australia's

largest daily newspaper, The Sydney Morning Herald which is the main

newspaper audition source for Sydney actors. And everyone reads the paper,

gay and straight. Auditions were also sent through acting schools and

casting and management agents.

There was certainly no attempt to get straight actors and most of the

people who did reply to the SMH advertisement were gay.

Incidentally, the actor playing Ste is openly gay. The director (that's

me)

is openly gay as are members of the crew. As for the other four actors, I

haven't asked them.

I hope this clarifies the issue for you.

Cheers,

Michael

Director - Beautiful Thing

 

----------

: From: Andrew

: Subject: tid bit

: Date: Sunday, 4 January 1998 8:31

:

: Tonight I spoke to a long-time friend of mine who lives in Sydney. He

said

: that some time ago he saw auditions for the Australian stage version of

: Beautiful Thing being advertised in mainstream newspapers. I wonder if

this

: was an attempt to get straight actors to play the roles.

:

: Also, there is still no joy yet for purchasing a legal retail copy of

the

: video in Australia. I guess I'll have to start hunting for an import.

:

: Andy

: (who still hasn't bought his tickets for the play yet)

:

: --

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From: Michael

Subject: Rehearsal Update #4

Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 10:16:19 -0400

Hi there BT fans

This isn't really a Rehearsal Update as we haven't been rehearsing over

the

last two weeks! I though I'd just send everyone a Happy New Year message.

I spent New Years with my two "Beautiful Things", Simon and Andrew. We

went

to the PRIDE dance party in Sydney along with about 10,000 other gay men,

lesbians and a few straight people.

On Saturday, Simon and I were interviewed on FREE FM which is a gay and

lesbian readio station in Sydney. The interview went very well and they

even played "It's Getting Better" during the interview.

Anyway, rehearsals resume on Tuesday night (6th Jan) with the actors set

for another intensive accent lesson. I'll keep you posted.

Kind regards

MICHAEL

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From: "Kent ."

Subject: A Bit of Doggerel

Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 17:49:55 PST

 

 

He came down the last stair

Dressed in plaid-- handsome sight!

Then we walked to the square

Our two hands holding tight.

(I knew we could do it. It felt oh-so-Right!)

As we started to dance

Cheek to cheek, circling slow,

People seemed to advance

Some were murmuring low.

(But we're happy together, we don't care that they know!)

My joy made me bolder

My arms were around STE!

My head on his shoulder

My love's dancing-- with *me*!

(I felt peace, sweet release, and I was suddenly free!)

Now it's Leah and-- *Mum*!

Hand in hand down the stairs.

The crowd-- nearly struck *dumb*

They're all caught unawares.

(Blue benches now vacant-- they've all left their chairs.)

Me Mum catches Ste's eye

Makes a joke, breaks the ice.

He smiles back in reply

God, he's lookin' so nice!

(Ste's eyes-- they're like gemstones-- beyond *any* price.)

We still keep on dancing

We're in Love. All can see

It's *Ste* I'm romancing.

He's *my* love, he's with *me*.

(Should I get *my* wish, that's how it'll always be.)

We both dance to the Song

That we hear in our heart--

LOVE-- to last a life long

We'll NEVER be apart!

(To be "out", to be "open"-- the best possible start!)

With a deep orange glow

(It's the heat wave's last fling),

The warm sun sinks down low--

Such a sight! Nature's "King"!

(No! "LOVE" *That's* the most Magical, Most Beautiful Thing!)

Kent

P.S. Thanks, Andy, for the idea.

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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 23:12:27 -0800

From: "Robert

Subject: Hello There!

Hello Jeff, how have you been? It's been a while since I've seen you

online.. I've been sick all week and also working late :( but I'm getting

better now. I hate being sick, right on New Year's eve! Oh well.

 

Well.. See you around.

Love,

Robert

--

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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 23:09:12 +1100 (EST)

From: Andrew

Subject: Peppermint Foot Lotion

Hi all,

Firstly, let me say I've never tried Peppermint Foot Lotion, either on my

feet or rubbed in elsewhere (butt out Kent!) but I'm willing to give it a

go. I'd like to see if anyone around me comments about it, like "you stink

of mint".

However I have tried a few other Bodyshop lines. My favourite being

Everyday Bath & Shower Gel. I've had many a happy time in the shower with

this stuff (g) the way the citrus fragrance stimulates my ..er, senses.

But

I didn't see it listed on their web site. Maybe it's sold under another

name in the UK or maybe it's something that just aussies enjoy.

Anyway, this was just a shameless attempt to get more page hits for my web

site! I've added The Bodyshop URL to my "up links" section.

Andy.xxx

--

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From: mermatt

Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:02:56 -0500

Subject: Confused

I am wondering what this list is being used for. Supposedly it was to

keep up the discussion of BT, the play and the film. But I am now

getting cute little notes that seem addressed from one person to another

that have nothing to do with BT. And I also got a message that had no

content at all. Is someone at the switch here or is it just an open list

for anything now?????

**************************************************************

Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 19:14:14 -0500

From: MGB

Subject: best movie!

Beautiful thing makes Reel.com 's 10 best videos of 1997 in the category

of Best English Language/Foreign film!

Aint it great!

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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 23:24:35 -0500

From: "Harry

Subject: Holiday viewing

While I was in Detroit for the holidays (place of birth, formative years

and first lover (sigh.....)) I took a copy of BT with me. While staying

in

the apartment of my 79 year old surrogate mother (my real mom died when I

was 13, & Flo and I sort of adopted each other quite some time ago, before

I left Detroit for NYC, Broadway lights and The Saint!), I offered that I

had brought it with me. Well, she immediately made it an evening and

invited her 84 year old retired psychiatrist lover to view it with us.

(Over Thankgiving I had suggested "Kiss Me Guido" and they took me up on

it; horrible sound, which ruined the picture)

It was my first complete viewing since last Spring, when BT was last on

the

big screen in Philly, so it was refreshing. She loved the film : )

though they both missed some of it due to the accents and the unfamiliar

slang. He fell asleep (horrors, though forgivable). I translated bits

when she asked. We had some discussion afterwards and later on the next

day. About bits here and there. She thought the dancing at the end,

while

sweet and effective, unreal, given the tenor of Thamesmead. Well.... more

revelations about my love life and my 'dancing scene' with my first lover

in one of the most public spaces in Detroit during the height of a summer

festival (Detroit is not! Greenwich Village). She really loved Sandra.

Sort of identified with her and understood where she was coming from.

Thought the character was well played.

After viewing the film again and replaying many of our discussions, I have

to rethink one of my opinions. I recognize why many feel that Ste and

Jamie might not have had sex on that first night. I had glossed over the

import of Ste admitting that he had never thought of what he fancied.

While I had assumed that growing up in Thamesmead in today's world (as I

had grown up in a working class neighborhood in Detroit) that there were

frequent sexual exposures and therefore Ste was aware of sex, though might

not have experienced it. By admitting that he hadn't thought of it and

later the spurning the opportunities of sex with a girl after the party,

he

clearly was just beginning the contemplation of where his desires were.

So

I will conceed that it just might be possible that Ste and Jamie did not

have sex on that first night (though having been a sixteen year old boy

once, I still think it unlikely that they didn't (shoot, at sixteen all I

had to do is look at someone's thigh a certain way and almost come on the

spot, so two naked sixteen year old boys in bed who fancied each

other........). : )

- Harry

PS:

Sandra, you're one terrific person. : )

--

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From: "Chris

Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:14:00 +0000

Subject: Re: Confused

Priority: normal

> I am wondering what this list is being used for. Supposedly it was to

> keep up the discussion of BT, the play and the film. But I am now

> getting cute little notes that seem addressed from one person to another

> that have nothing to do with BT. And I also got a message that had no

> content at all. Is someone at the switch here or is it just an open list

> for anything now?????

Hi Matt,

The list is an open list. If an email gets sent to

then it will be distributed to everyone on

the mailing list. The only control I exercise at the moment is that

mail from certain addresses (know spam havens). I always hoped that

the mailing list would be for the discussion of BT and the issues

arising from this discission. If the ammount of chat that isn't

related to the list increases i'll have a word with the individuals

involved.

 

--

Chris

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Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 08:08:27 -0500

From: Keith

Subject: Re: Confused

Matt,

I hardly think the one or two odd messages inadvertently sent to the wrong

address, or slightly off topic, constitutes the BT list being open for

any discussion.

Going back through the older messages (and I've got 'em all) I see how

truly focused this list has stayed, not only on BT, but on topics

directly, or indirectly inspired by BT, and probably of interest to most

on the list.

Besides, that's what God invented the <DELETE> key for. : )

Keith

 

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From: "Kent ."

Subject: Re: Confused

Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 05:39:50 PST

 

 

 

On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Matt wrote:

>

>I am wondering what this list is being used for. Supposedly it was to

>keep up the discussion of BT, the play and the film. But I am now

>getting cute little notes that seem addressed from one person to

another

>that have nothing to do with BT. And I also got a message that had no

>content at all. Is someone at the switch here or is it just an open

list

>for anything now?????

 

This issue has been raised before, I know. Different people have

varying opinions as to the long-term benefit of a group of people

emailing each other about the same little movie (but some people have

been on the list, and have seen BT, only recently). I happen to agree

with Mike and Gary , who have posted that they view this

forum

as a means of discussing those things which we have in common--

primarily BT, but (for the vast majority of us) being gay as well.

Clearly, Matt, you somewhat share that view, as one of your posts

responded to Ben 's inquiry about how he should come out to

his family-- not a BT issue at all, yet it was something worth a

sympathetic and interested reader's attention, right? While I think

that strictly individual messages are more appropriate for email,

*incorporating* individual asides into posts (because people, via this

list, have in some cases become acquainted with each other on an

individual basis) seems entirely germaine to the idea of "community"--

centered on BT-- which this list has helped foster for a number of us.

 

We talk about BT, certainly, but we also talk about *US* (as in the

Introductions we made about a month or so ago).

I also subscribe under my WebTV handle, Matt, but I don't recall getting

a post with "no content at all" (unless you mean my doggerel! :))

The real issue seems to be why so many people would be interested in

being on such a list (however ill-defined its focus) and yet never

bother to post anything at all!! (Excepting those who may still be

closeted, that is.) True, it takes time to write, and we do have our

lives to live-- people aren't spending all day online.

As for me, I never thought *anyone* was "at the switch" since anything

a

list subscriber sends to the list gets sent automatically to everyone

else (that's what I *surmise*-- being no 'Net-expert at all, myself!--

a

mail list does); there is no Moderator or screening process. The

only ones at any switches are-- we!

Kent

switching off now!

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Date: Wed, 07 Jan 98 10:17:58 MET

From: Hannes

Subject: Hallo Everyone!

Hi!

 

My name is Hannes. I used to be known as HAL (still

my

nickname) (some of you older list members... nono, let me rephrase

that; Some of the subscribers that have been here for a while

might

remember me from long ago... I hope...;))

 

I'm South African. We only got to see BT here from end of July

'97,

when it was first released here. I sort of freaked and saw it a

quite few times (soemthing I suppose quite a few of us can relate

to!

:) ). It was joked that I was paying the cinema's rent in

movie-tickets!

 

Aaaaanyway, I'm back!

Hi to everyone I know - and everyone I don't, too!

 

Hal!

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Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 10:13:59 -0600

From: Gary

Subject: Re: Peppermint Foot Lotion

Andrew  wrote:

>

> Hi all,

>

> Firstly, let me say I've never tried Peppermint Foot Lotion, either on

my

> feet or rubbed in elsewhere (butt out Kent!) but I'm willing to give it

a

> go. I'd like to see if anyone around me comments about it, like "you

stink

> of mint".

>

It's great stuff, Andy. When the new Wolfchase Galleria, an

enormous

shopping mall, opened about an hour from here in suburban Memphis, I

drove down to check the place out and was delighted to find a Body Shop.

So, of course I had to look for Peppermint Foot Lotion. I think I was

the only guy in the store and some clerk probably wondered why I seemed

to be looking for a very specific item. :)

So far I've used it only on my feet, but I'd sure consider it for,

um,

other occasions. ;)

Gary

**************************************************************

Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 10:17:25 -0600

From: Gary

Subject: Re: best movie!

MGB wrote:

>

> Beautiful thing makes Reel.com 's 10 best videos of 1997 in the category

> of Best English Language/Foreign film!

> Aint it great!

>

I only hope 1998 is the year that it goes on sale for purchase, as

opposed to the rental price. I already own it, but that would allow a

lot more people to become BT fanatics.

My US video copy is in Surround Sound, which I don't have, but the

other night I watched it at a friend's house who does have it and the

effect was really neat. The music is the most effective part of the

surround sound and it was especially great during the final dance

scene.

Gary

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Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 19:39:12 -0500

From: MGB

Subject: Re: Hallo Everyone!

Hi HAL!! Nice to meet cha!! I regret not being able to see BT in the

theatre,

but I think I was helping to pay the salaries of the people behind the

counter

at the video store were I rented BT over and over and over and over....well

, I

guess you get the idea!!!

MGB

Hannes wrote:

> Hi!

>

> My name is Hannes . I used to be known as HAL (still my

> nickname) (some of you older list members... nono, let me rephrase

> that; Some of the subscribers that have been here for a while

might

> remember me from long ago... I hope...;))

>

> I'm South African. We only got to see BT here from end of July

'97,

> when it was first released here. I sort of freaked and saw it a

> quite few times (soemthing I suppose quite a few of us can relate

to!

> :) ). It was joked that I was paying the cinema's rent in

> movie-tickets!

>

> Aaaaanyway, I'm back!

> Hi to everyone I know - and everyone I don't, too!

>

> Hal!

>

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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:19:24 GMT

From: jmcs

Subject: One Year!!

Hi everybody!

I'm still climbing the walls but today is a really special day for me. My

first BT anniversary! Just one year ago, I received a package with the

most

beautiful thing inside. My BTmania had started!!

I'm happy!!

Eleven days and counting!! :)

Take care.

 

Sandra.

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Date: Thu, 08 Jan 98 11:34:31 MET

From: Hannes

Subject: Re[2]: Hallo Everyone!

Sure do! :)

 

Kent (bless his noble heart, the sweetie) sent me a copy of BT on

video, and since then I have converted a few people to the magic

of

Jamie and Ste. Would've been more people if only Video standards

were

standard all over the world...!

 

Hal

 

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_____

Subject: Re: Hallo Everyone!

Date: 1/8/98 3:42 AM

 

Hi HAL!! Nice to meet cha!! I regret not being able to see BT in the

theatre,

but I think I was helping to pay the salaries of the people behind the

counter

at the video store were I rented BT over and over and over and over....well

, I

guess you get the idea!!!

MGB

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From: "Jonathan

Subject: VH1

Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 15:18:54 +0100

Just thought alkl you with VH1 might be interested in this. This Sunday

the

11th at 9PM US EST time they are having a one hour special on The Mamas

and

The Papas and on Mama Cass...Mama Cass' sister is going to give an

interview

about her.

Jon

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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 13:29:51 -0500

From: "Harry

Subject: One Year Anniversary

Prompted by the enthusiasm expressed for a one year BT anniversary I

checked my files and found that my first immersion in the world of

Thamesmead was October 28th, 1996. So I'm in the beginning of my second

year after BT or 2 ABT. : ) I believe that I first joined Davie's BT

e-mail list in January of last year so it's been a year that I've been

part

of our BT community and it's been a wonderfull year. I've used my

experience in this worldwide Internet community to explain, promote the

Internet and to illustrate the changing dynamic of communications at work

and with friends. Thank you all for a great time and here's to another

great year! : )

- Harry

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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:33:46 +1100 (EST)

From: ajs

Subject: Stage play

Greetings peeps,

Today I finally got 'round to buying my tickets for the stage play in

Sydney. I'm going with four of my friends on Friday, March 6th. I can't

get

to Sydney until the first week of March (which means I'll miss the Mardi

Gras parade) but will see the play just before it finishes. It's about the

2nd last performance.

Take care,

Andy.

--

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From: "Philippe

Subject: French Beautiful Thing Homepage

Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:03:45 +0100

Hello !

Here are the latest news from the French Beautiful Thing Homepage

 

- You'll find an autographed picture from Glen Berry in the What's new

section.

- The charts ! Fill in the form ! And we'll know which caracter, which

scene, which scene... the BT-Fans love the most !

Hope to see you there :)

Phil

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From:  (Kent)

Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:14:29 -0500

Subject: New Gay-Themed Movie-- and A BT Connection!

If you are interested, you may wish to check out

http://www.mgm.com/bent/, for a site devoted to a movie based on the

Broadway play (which had starred, at different times, Richard Gere and

Michael York). It is a story about the origin of the "pink triangle" as

a gay symbol, coming as it did from the patches worn by known

homosexuals in the Nazi Concentration camps.

The BT link is that one of the actors, who plays Rudy (find him in the

list of the Cast), played Ste in a production of Beautiful Thing, in

South Africa!! Hal, did you know there had been a production there??

Kent

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 98 09:21:37 MET

From: Hannes

Subject: Re: Stage play

Jealous me!!!!

I wanna see the stage play!!!!!!

Whaaaaaaaah!

 

Hysterical Hal

 

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Subject: Stage play

Date: 1/12/98 7:29 PM

 

Greetings peeps,

 

Today I finally got 'round to buying my tickets for the stage play in

Sydney. I'm going with four of my friends on Friday, March 6th. I can't

get

to Sydney until the first week of March (which means I'll miss the

Mardi

Gras parade) but will see the play just before it finishes. It's about

the

2nd last performance.

 

Take care,

Andy.

 

--

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From: "Michael

Subject: Re: Stage play

Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:48:11 -0400

Hi Andy

With less than a month to go before opening night, things are certainly

hotting up as far as preparations for the play are concerned. Artistically

it is looking very good and the set (which is designed by Charles Kevin

who

also plays "Tony") is well under way. I don't want to give anything away

but it is quite special.

Anyway, I look forward to seeing you on Friday 6 March which is the second

last performance.

Cheers

MICHAEL

Director - Beautiful Thing by Jonathan Harvey

 

--

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 98 11:31:01 MET

From: Hannes

Subject: Re: New Gay-Themed Movie-- and A BT Connection!

AAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaarghhhhh!!!!

NOOOOOOOO!

Beautiful Thing here, and I didn't KNOW?!?!?!?!?!

 

NONONOONOOO!!!!!

ahem. Sorry people. I lost my cool there.. I will check that

link

TODAY and sniff out the real truth....

 

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_____

Subject: New Gay-Themed Movie-- and A BT Connection!

Date: 1/13/98 8:17 AM

 

If you are interested, you may wish to check out

http://www.mgm.com/bent/, for a site devoted to a movie based on the

Broadway play (which had starred, at different times, Richard Gere and

Michael York). It is a story about the origin of the "pink triangle"

as

a gay symbol, coming as it did from the patches worn by known

homosexuals in the Nazi Concentration camps.

 

The BT link is that one of the actors, who plays Rudy (find him in the

list of the Cast), played Ste in a production of Beautiful Thing, in

South Africa!! Hal, did you know there had been a production there??

 

Kent

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 98 11:31:49 MET

From: Hannes

Subject: Re[2]: Stage play

No fair!!

Bring BT to SA!!!

 

______________________________ Reply Separator ____________________________

_____

Subject: Re: Stage play

Date: 1/13/98 8:17 AM

 

Hi Andy

 

With less than a month to go before opening night, things are certainly

hotting up as far as preparations for the play are concerned. Artistically

 

it is looking very good and the set (which is designed by Charles Kevin

who

also plays "Tony") is well under way. I don't want to give anything

away

but it is quite special.

 

Anyway, I look forward to seeing you on Friday 6 March which is the

second

last performance.

 

Cheers

MICHAEL

Director - Beautiful Thing by Jonathan Harvey

 

 

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From: Donald

Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:18:22 EST

Subject: Beautiful Thing Fans!

Hey guys, I have been one of those lurkers, merely 'listening' to the

conversations and exchanges taking place. I speak out now to warn you all.

DO

NOT DOWNLOAD ANYTHING! I am serious about this...do not download anything

that

comes as an attachment to an an email. There are what is called "Trojan

Horse

Viruses" that are spreading like wildfire. Apparently they are automaticall

y

sent via email from one infected computer to another.

I would hate to see ANY fellow BT fans have their computers demolished

from

this dastardly virus. So please, for all of our sakes; be wary of what you

download until this blows through.

Thanks and next time I promise to have something more positive to say.

:-)

Donald, a BT fan and a half!

--

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From: "Chris

Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:02:41 +0000

Subject: Re: Beautiful Thing Fans!

Priority: normal

> Hey guys, I have been one of those lurkers, merely 'listening' to the

> conversations and exchanges taking place. I speak out now to warn you

all. DO

> NOT DOWNLOAD ANYTHING! I am serious about this...do not download

anything that

> comes as an attachment to an an email. There are what is called "Trojan

Horse

> Viruses" that are spreading like wildfire. Apparently they are automatica

lly

> sent via email from one infected computer to another.

Okay, lets get this sorted. For a email attachment to do harm to you

machine you have to run it. No for most email packages running an

email attachment is not the defualt option. .jpgs and .gifs can not

contatin viruses(virui?) so they are safe to view. It is best never

to run a program sent to you via email from someone you don't know as

it could do anything (format your hard-disk, delete windows).

>

> I would hate to see ANY fellow BT fans have their computers demolished

from

> this dastardly virus. So please, for all of our sakes; be wary of what

you

> download until this blows through.

>

Being wary of what you download (and run) is a good rule anyways.

--

Chris

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From: Sven

Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:27:06 EST

Subject: 'ELLO

Hello to all you BT fans out there. I just joined the mailing list and

hope

to hear alot from everyone. It's a great movie, 'init?

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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 98 12:57:30 MET

From: Hannes

Subject: Re: Beautiful Thing Fans!

OK. Fair enough. At least you didn't forward one of those

horrible

chain letters asking us to ignore any mail with the header "xyz"

or

something like that.....

 

Tsk.

 

Hannes

 

______________________________ Reply Separator ____________________________

_____

Subject: Beautiful Thing Fans!

Date: 1/14/98 10:00 AM

 

Hey guys, I have been one of those lurkers, merely 'listening' to the

conversations and exchanges taking place. I speak out now to warn you all.

DO

NOT DOWNLOAD ANYTHING! I am serious about this...do not download anything

that

comes as an attachment to an an email. There are what is called "Trojan

Horse

Viruses" that are spreading like wildfire. Apparently they are automaticall

y

sent via email from one infected computer to another.

 

I would hate to see ANY fellow BT fans have their computers demolished

from

this dastardly virus. So please, for all of our sakes; be wary of what

you

download until this blows through.

 

Thanks and next time I promise to have something more positive to say.

:-)

 

Donald, a BT fan and a half!

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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:51:32 -0600

From: Gary

Subject: Re: 'ELLO

Sven wrote:

>

> Hello to all you BT fans out there. I just joined the mailing list and

hope

> to hear alot from everyone. It's a great movie, 'init?

> --

> This message was sent via the Beautiful Thing Mailing List

The subject line of your message - 'Ello - reminded me to mention

my

surprise the other day when, while perusing the huge magazine selection

at the local Davis-Kidd Booksellers and Cafe (an enormous bookstore and

restaurant) here in Jackson, Tennessee, I came upon several copies of,

you guessed it, "Hello." I'd never actually seen a copy before to look

through and, though Princess Diana was on the cover, all I could think

about was Jamie and Ste. :)

Gary

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From: "Philippe

Subject: BT article

Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 20:06:03 +0100

Hello,

Recently, a french gay magazine wanted me to write a review about BT.

I think it may interest you as it interest me to know what you think about

the movie :)

Here's the english translation :

--------------------------

BEAUTIFUL THING

I can't exactly remember how I discovered "Beautiful thing" but it's one

of

these precious movies who helps you to know more the others, and to know

yourself more.

It's a simple story about three teenagers in the south of London,

Thamesmead, during a hot summer. Jamie is rejected by his class mates and

hates football, and games in general. Ste is big football and swimming

fan.

He's everybody's best friend, but at home he's beaten by his drunken

father

und brother. And there's Leah, excluded from school and the biggest Mama

Cass fan.

Sandra, Jamie's mother is a winner. She tries to understand her son, fight

to have a new job and tries to have a relation with her hippy boyfriend

Tony.

One evening, coming back from work, Sandra takes Ste, beaten one more time

by his family, under her protection. The boy will spend more and more

nights

in Jamie's bed. The two teenagers will find in each other what they miss

the

most. For Jamie, Ste is THE friend, the one he can tell everything. And

Ste

finds in Jamie the affection and love he doesn't have at home. Jamie and

Ste

meet more and more often, become confidents and their friendship ends in

love. For them, the situation is normal, but it isn't for the other. Even

through outside's attacks, their love is stronger.

But not only Ste and Jamie find their luck. The other caracters also find

a

way to changer their life in a better way.

A simple movie, with unknown actors. The only star in the movie is Mama

Cass, which music goes so exactly to some of the scenes, as if it was

written especially for this movie.

A simple movie, but a so true movie, who remembers us our lifes, and

that's

why everything seems so right. I think the message of the movie is

"believe

in your dreams, believe in yourself". That's why "Beautiful thing" is a

very

positive movie.

A "must seen" movie, gay or not, the most important thing is to have

enough

sensibility to understand it and to understand its message.

-----------------

Phil,

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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 20:18:23 GMT

From: jmcs

Subject: Re: 'ELLO

At 10:27 14/01/98 EST, you wrote:

>Hello to all you BT fans out there. I just joined the mailing list and

hope

>to hear alot from everyone. It's a great movie, 'init?

 

Hi, and welcome to the list! BTW, what's your name?

Yep, it IS a great movie, if it wasn't we wouldn't be here, right? :)

Anyway, five days and counting! Still no sign of the longer trailer but I

expect it in a couple of days at most!

Take care.

Sandra.

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From: Sven

Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:40:52 EST

Subject: Re: 'ELLO

Name's Steve. Five days till what?

--

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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 01:51:39 GMT

From: jmcs

Subject: Re: 'ELLO

At 12:51 14/01/98 -0600, Gary wrote:

> The subject line of your message - 'Ello - reminded me to mention

my

>surprise the other day when, while perusing the huge magazine selection

>at the local Davis-Kidd Booksellers and Cafe (an enormous bookstore and

>restaurant) here in Jackson, Tennessee, I came upon several copies of,

>you guessed it, "Hello." I'd never actually seen a copy before to look

>through and, though Princess Diana was on the cover, all I could think

>about was Jamie and Ste. :)

>

>Gary

 

This subject has never arisen before, but the thing is that we also have

the

'Hello' magazine in Spain. It's exactly the same one they publish in

Great

Britain. Here it's called (obviously) 'Hola'. I can just imagine the

smiles in Spanish' movie theatres when they saw Jamie and Ste reading a

magazine we also read over here. I've read it often (mostly at the

hairdresser's shop, ya know...). It was around since I can remember.

When I first saw it, I felt I had something in common with the characters.

I know this may sound stupid, but I felt some sort of attachment between

myself and Jamie and Ste.

Oh, well... I'm daydreaming again. Sorry.

4 days and counting...

Take care.

Sandra.

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From: DC

Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 00:35:33 EST

Subject: Re: 'ELLO

In a message dated 98-01-14 17:25:27 EST, joe writes:

<< The subject line of your message - 'Ello - reminded me to mention my

surprise the other day when, while perusing the huge magazine selection

at the local Davis-Kidd Booksellers and Cafe (an enormous bookstore and

restaurant) here in Jackson, Tennessee, I came upon several copies of,

you guessed it, "Hello." I'd never actually seen a copy before to look

through and, though Princess Diana was on the cover, all I could think

about was Jamie and Ste. :) >>

I can identify -- I was at Border's Bookstore - in Attleboro, Mass, of all

places -- the other day and found several copies of "Gay Times". Now, the

major bookstores are not only stocking american Gay themed mags, but

imports

as well. The times, they are a changin'!!

Dirk

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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:12:51 +1100 (EST)

From: Andy

Subject: Re: 'ELLO

 

 

Sven wrote:

>Hello to all you BT fans out there. I just joined the mailing list and

hope

>to hear alot from everyone. It's a great movie, 'init?

>--

'Ello and welcome to the list. I'm Andy from Australia. Yes, Beautiful

Thing is a great movie. You are in for a good time and are about to make

many new friends from all over the planet. Since I joined the list I've

had

many conversations with fellow fans, expressing their feelings and ideas

on

a wide range of topics, not only about BT but many other things as well. I

think it's made me a better person. Hope you like it here. :)

Your AOL account doesn't tell me much about where you're from, so where on

earth are you? :))

 

Cheers and welcome,

Andy.

--

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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 05:02:00 -0800 (PST)

From: Rich

Subject: Re: 'ELLO

We get Gay Times and Hello in Atlanta as well. And we have a couple

of Body Shop stores selling Peppermint Foot Lotion -- it's a small and

shrinking "Beautiful" world.

 

 

 

 

---DC wrote:

>

> In a message dated 98-01-14 17:25:27 EST, joehardy writes:

>

> << The subject line of your message - 'Ello - reminded me to mention

my

> surprise the other day when, while perusing the huge magazine

selection

> at the local Davis-Kidd Booksellers and Cafe (an enormous bookstore

and

> restaurant) here in Jackson, Tennessee, I came upon several copies

of,

> you guessed it, "Hello." I'd never actually seen a copy before to

look

> through and, though Princess Diana was on the cover, all I could

think

> about was Jamie and Ste. :) >>

>

> I can identify -- I was at Border's Bookstore - in Attleboro, Mass,

of all

> places -- the other day and found several copies of "Gay Times".

Now, the

> major bookstores are not only stocking american Gay themed mags, but

imports

> as well. The times, they are a changin'!!

>

> Dirk

> --

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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 98 09:07:07 MET

From: Hannes

Subject: Re[2]: 'ELLO

Five days and counting? Sorry Sandra I'm not with you...

And the trailer?

 

Please inform a poor, uninformed, Bt-fan....

 

Hannes

 

______________________________ Reply Separator ____________________________

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Subject: Re: 'ELLO

Date: 1/14/98 11:19 PM

 

At 10:27 14/01/98 EST, you wrote:

>Hello to all you BT fans out there. I just joined the mailing list and

hope

>to hear alot from everyone. It's a great movie, 'init?

 

 

Hi, and welcome to the list! BTW, what's your name?

 

Yep, it IS a great movie, if it wasn't we wouldn't be here, right? :)

 

Anyway, five days and counting! Still no sign of the longer trailer but

I

expect it in a couple of days at most!

 

Take care.

 

Sandra.

 

 

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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 14:17:37 GMT

From: jmcs

Subject: Re: 'ELLO

At 18:40 14/01/98 EST, Steve wrote:

>Name's Steve. Five days till what?

 

Hi everybody!!

Steve, GREAT name!!!

FOUR days now 'til they show BT on Spanish TV (Channel +, to be exact).

Monday, 19, 22:00 hours. :)))

Take care.

 

Sandra.

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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 98 12:48:55 MET

From: Hannes

Subject: Re[2]: 'ELLO

Sandra!

You're making me crrrrrazy!

What is 4 days away??

 

Hannes

 

PS. Before I get flamed for not putting enought BT-related emails

into my entries....

We also have "Hello" magazine, but it's the imported one from

Britain.

We also import Gay Times, and all those mags. But we've had them

since I can remember, so it's no biggie for us. I only really

noticed

Hello when I saw it on BT (never read it before)...

 

______________________________ Reply Separator ____________________________

_____

Subject: Re: 'ELLO

Date: 1/15/98 8:58 AM

 

This subject has never arisen before, but the thing is that we also have

the

'Hello' magazine in Spain. It's exactly the same one they publish in

Great

Britain. Here it's called (obviously) 'Hola'. I can just imagine the

smiles in Spanish' movie theatres when they saw Jamie and Ste reading a

magazine we also read over here. I've read it often (mostly at the

hairdresser's shop, ya know...). It was around since I can remember.

When I first saw it, I felt I had something in common with the characters.

 

I know this may sound stupid, but I felt some sort of attachment between

myself and Jamie and Ste.

Oh, well... I'm daydreaming again. Sorry.

 

4 days and counting...

 

Take care.

 

Sandra.

 

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From: Sven

Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:23:23 EST

Subject: Re: 'ELLO

Located in Washington State in the USA.

I have never seen any of the magazines from the movie in my area. It's

kind

of disheartening, because I like to read foreign articles. Oh well, maybe

some of them will be imported eventually.

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From: Donald

Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:25:30 EST

Subject: Peppermint foot lotion

 

Hey guys, how goes it? I told you the next time I write, I would have good

news...well here it is: Today I was at my grandmther's house...she had

peppermint foot lotion on top of her chest of drawers. Needless to say, I

grabbed it and asked where she got it. Know what her resonse was? AVON!

Yes,

that is correct. She said she ordered it through her AVON sales rep. for a

couple of bucks! (I think she said $1.95US if I am correct). Obviously, a

19

year old "straight" grandson can not order peppermint foot lotion from his

grandmother, but you bet I am going to find an AVON person to buy from! I

have

also seen it in several of the shoppes that offer bath and beauty stuff.

And

this is Kentucky, so I am sure it is out there other places too. :-)

Good luck to you all in finding the lotion--it works wonders in many

ways!

Your fellow BT fan,

Donald

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:34:56 +1100 (EST)

From: Andy

Subject: FAQ? anyone? anyone?

Hi listers,

Does anybody maintain some form of a frequently asked questions file for

Beautiful Thing?

Just wondering, before I start wasting my time!

Andy.

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