From: JP
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 21:46:50 EDT
Subject: btlist: Re:Chicago Finale

In a message dated 6/15/98 3:46:34 PM CST, tj writes:

> Eric, Jeffo, Jay and BT-listserv friends--
>
> For our BT Chicago finale get-together, do you think we should do the
> Saturday nite (August 8th) or the actual "final" day Sunday (August
> 9th)?? For those of us that work on Monday, Saturday may be a bit
> advantageous!?

I'd say, book Saturday, with a Sunday addition for those (like me!) who can
manage two performances.

>
> Also, Jay, could you please respond to the list with the names and phone
> numbers of the two hotels that are near your apartment and are in
> walking distance to the Theatre? As we all learned the hard way,
> Chicago hotels book early and fill rapidly...after all, your living room
> floor is only so big! :-)

I'll come up with a complete list, with phone numbers, for those who are
interested.
Send me an email to request the list (don't want to clutter up this list):
I can tell you right off that there are a Comfort Inn and a Days Inn on
Diversey within one block of me. You might start with those chains. Also,
there is a B&B referral service - I'll get the number for that as well.

Bye the way, some members (like Eric & Jeff) will probably come back before
the finale,
either because August is out, or they just can't wait! So, if anyone is
thinking of coming to Chicago in July, let me know! :-)

I want to reiterate: this cast has really gotten good what they do - the play
is already up for at least one award here. I'm now totally enchanted with
Matt & Michael's rendition of the "peppermint foot lotion" scene and Matt &
Kirsten's version of the "you went to the gloucester" scene. (Jamie's bed is
only a couple of feet from the front row, for one thing. Very intimate). If
there is any chance of getting to Chicago in the next couple of months, you
wanna get yourself here to see it!

Jay

*****************************************************

From: "Neil
Subject: btlist: Pride UK 98
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:20:23 +0100

Hi Stu,

Yeah I'll definitely be there. I live in Brixton, London so Clapham Common
is only a mile or so down the road (for the stagger home.) Make sure you go
to the march (or parade as its being called this year) as think it is the
most important bit. Also there is Summer Rites in Brockwell Park, Brixton
on 1st August which is a smaller version of Pride.

The info I have on these events is as follows:

The parade starts at Hyde Park at 11am Saturday 4th July and works its way
through the centre of London (Piccadilly, Westminster, Victoria) The its a
mad rush to get to Clapham which is often half the fun of the day. The
festival which takes place there was free and unrestricted up until this
year. As last year was mad, the local borough council have imposed a limit
of 100,000 visiting the common. Therefore it is a ticket only event (as is
Summer Rites) available at all good gay venues and by phone. Cost £5. Be
quick as I think they have nearly all gone. There will be many big names
playing on stage plus many tents including a BBC Radio 1 tent with their top
DJs broadcasting live to the UK. There is also a fun fair. That's all I
know I'm afraid.

Maybe those of us going could arrange to meet at some point. The earlier
the better for me as a cocktail of drinks and "sweets" will make life fuzzy
towards the end of the day.

Also maybe next year we could have a BT float on the parade?

lots of luv,

Neil

-----Original Message-----
Stu
Sent: 16 June 1998 01:33
Subject: Re: btlist: Hello all !

Yes starting with Pride '98, here in London, in the UK.

Are you going Neil, or any other's from the btlist ?

I've never been before, and wondered if you or any other btlist fans,
have any info on what's going on,

see you soon

stu
x

Neil  wrote:
>
> Starting with Pride UK, I believe?!
>
> I'm sorry too that I couldn't make it to the meeting but I woke up with a
> mother of a hangover after having gone to bed around 5am. Sorry! It
sounds
> like a fab time was had by all.
>
> Maybe the Brits (and anybody else for that matter) could arrange something
> for the Edinburgh Festival performance of BT?
>
> Neil.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Stu
> Sent: 16 June 1998 00:12
> Subject: btlist: Hello all !
>
> Hey there Gavin, and all !
>
> Thanks for the email, and sorry for not making it to the gathering this
> weekend just past.
>
> For those of you curios to know where I live, as Gav' certainly was,
> (bless him), I'm from Brentwood, in Essex, in England !
>
> I would loved to have made the get together, but work came first, and
> there was no way to change my work schedule.
>
> However, I am planning to have the weekend, starting 4/7/98 - 4th July,
> off, so I may see some of you in London, during that time.
>
> Until then, enjoy life while you can, and look after yourselves.
>
> Bye for now.
>
> stu
> x
>

*****************************************************

Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 07:45:39 -0400
From: Eric
Subject: Re: btlist: Green with envy!

> Jeff and Eric: how many
>points do you get for meeting a cast member??? =]
>Later!
>MGB

Quite a few... but you get more for *sleeping* with one!

-Eric

*****************************************************

Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 13:46:43 +0200
From: Martijn
Subject: btlist: SUPERDELUX!!!!!

Hiya everone!!!!!!!!!!

It's monday Thuesday and i'm back in Holland. yesterday evening
the Dutch group arrived in Holland and i slept a lott today. Because
Andre had to work near were i lived he slept at my place and he had
to go up very early this day:-))) ME NOT!!!!!!!!!!!

The weekend was great. Lots of Surprises and everyone was enjoying the
Program i guessed. When i went i thpought...This would be my last BT meeting
But no no no.......October is coming and ofcourse i will be there again....

At least........ I'm gonna try and think it woul;d be possible.

Like you all know we met LINDA HENRY in the Gloucester and for everyone
who missed here she had a very special message. This week i'm gonna scan
that message for you all.............

I think that this Meeting was a very special one..........i know that the Dutch group
really enjoyed it..........

A specialy when Kent, Robert Portengen and I did morning Gymnastics at Londen
Waterloo Station with our Ghettoblaster............

I',m already working on a fully detailed storey about the weekend so you will see
it one of these day's on the net.

Love from Holland,

Martijn

*****************************************************

Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 22:13:11 +1000
From: Andy
Subject: Re: btlist: Green with envy!

OK, so I'm a 1 point wonder.

Jeff wrote:
>Meeting a cast member? Gotta be a few extra points. :-) I suppose we'd
>have to add degrees of meetings. Meeting one of the boys would be the top
>prize. We were discussing in Chicago that there are certain things BT fans
>MUST do. Among them, see the film on the big screen, which is no small feat
>anymore, since many on the list have only seen it on video. See the play
>somewhere in the world. Visit Thamesmead. And now we can add meet a cast
>member (preferably without stalking him or her, which would mean MAJOR
>demerits, and maybe jail time!). I'd say the 27 people who fulfilled the
>visit AND the cast member encounter are pretty lucky. Now just fly to
>Chicago or drive to Edinburgh to see the play AND see the big-screen version
>somehow. You've got the Big Four.

Eric wrote:
>Quite a few... but you get more for *sleeping* with one!

Now that is a BIG ask!!!

Andy.
(who likes his little point!!)

*****************************************************

From: "Neil
Subject: RE: btlist: Pride UK 98
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 16:12:22 +0100

Hi again,

I'll be going to Pride with several friends but would still be definitely
like to meet up. Perhaps we (including any local BTers) could meet up
before in London somewhere, Soho perchance? If anyone wants to do this and
has any preferable dates please post them.

Hey, its sunny outside. First time I've seen the sun this month I think.
Maybe a rainbow will appear soon . . . ?

Ti amo tutti

Neil.

-----Original Message-----
Stu
Sent: 17 June 1998 00:00
Subject: Re: btlist: Pride UK 98

Hi Neil, and one and all !

Thanks for the info, on the upcoming event of Pride '98. I hope to be
there, if I can get a ticket in time, I've seen the ad's in Gay Times, on
the back page, of this month.

Also, It's a matter of planning time off, from work, at Sainsburys, in
Brentwood, where I live, and so far, I've made the arrangements, 3 weeks
before the event happens.

If I make it (which I'm sure I can), I can't wait, it'll be so cool,
being my first time, and many other's first time also, to take part in
such an thrilling event !

I hope to meet up with you , and many other's from this btlist.

Maybe we could all meet somewhere, and be ready for the start of the
event.

My only wories, are transport back home, as there may be prob's with
trains etc, but I'm not sure, I get that feeling quite often.

See you around, irl. maybe?

love

stu
x

Neil  wrote:
>
> Hi Stu,
>
> Yeah I'll definitely be there. I live in Brixton, London so Clapham
Common
> is only a mile or so down the road (for the stagger home.) Make sure you
go
> to the march (or parade as its being called this year) as think it is the
> most important bit. Also there is Summer Rites in Brockwell Park, Brixton
> on 1st August which is a smaller version of Pride.
>
> The info I have on these events is as follows:
>
> The parade starts at Hyde Park at 11am Saturday 4th July and works its way
> through the centre of London (Piccadilly, Westminster, Victoria) The its
a
> mad rush to get to Clapham which is often half the fun of the day. The
> festival which takes place there was free and unrestricted up until this
> year. As last year was mad, the local borough council have imposed a
limit
> of 100,000 visiting the common. Therefore it is a ticket only event (as
is
> Summer Rites) available at all good gay venues and by phone. Cost £5. Be
> quick as I think they have nearly all gone. There will be many big names
> playing on stage plus many tents including a BBC Radio 1 tent with their
top
> DJs broadcasting live to the UK. There is also a fun fair. That's all I
> know I'm afraid.
>
> Maybe those of us going could arrange to meet at some point. The earlier
> the better for me as a cocktail of drinks and "sweets" will make life
fuzzy
> towards the end of the day.
>
> Also maybe next year we could have a BT float on the parade?
>
> lots of luv,
>
> Neil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Stu
> Sent: 16 June 1998 01:33
> Subject: Re: btlist: Hello all !
>
> Yes starting with Pride '98, here in London, in the UK.
>
> Are you going Neil, or any other's from the btlist ?
>
> I've never been before, and wondered if you or any other btlist fans,
> have any info on what's going on,
>
> see you soon
>
> stu
> x
>
> Neil  wrote:
> >
> > Starting with Pride UK, I believe?!
> >
> > I'm sorry too that I couldn't make it to the meeting but I woke up with
a
> > mother of a hangover after having gone to bed around 5am. Sorry! It
> sounds
> > like a fab time was had by all.
> >
> > Maybe the Brits (and anybody else for that matter) could arrange
something
> > for the Edinburgh Festival performance of BT?
> >
> > Neil.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Stu
> > Sent: 16 June 1998 00:12
> > Subject: btlist: Hello all !
> >
> > Hey there Gavin, and all !
> >
> > Thanks for the email, and sorry for not making it to the gathering this
> > weekend just past.
> >
> > For those of you curios to know where I live, as Gav' certainly was,
> > (bless him), I'm from Brentwood, in Essex, in England !
> >
> > I would loved to have made the get together, but work came first, and
> > there was no way to change my work schedule.
> >
> > However, I am planning to have the weekend, starting 4/7/98 - 4th July,
> > off, so I may see some of you in London, during that time.
> >
> > Until then, enjoy life while you can, and look after yourselves.
> >
> > Bye for now.
> >
> > stu
> > x
> >

*****************************************************

From: "Neil
Subject: RE: btlist: Pride UK 98
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 16:12:22 +0100

Hi again,

I'll be going to Pride with several friends but would still be definitely
like to meet up. Perhaps we (including any local BTers) could meet up
before in London somewhere, Soho perchance? If anyone wants to do this and
has any preferable dates please post them.

Hey, its sunny outside. First time I've seen the sun this month I think.
Maybe a rainbow will appear soon . . . ?

Ti amo tutti

Neil.

-----Original Message-----
Stu
Sent: 17 June 1998 00:00
Subject: Re: btlist: Pride UK 98

Hi Neil, and one and all !

Thanks for the info, on the upcoming event of Pride '98. I hope to be
there, if I can get a ticket in time, I've seen the ad's in Gay Times, on
the back page, of this month.

Also, It's a matter of planning time off, from work, at Sainsburys, in
Brentwood, where I live, and so far, I've made the arrangements, 3 weeks
before the event happens.

If I make it (which I'm sure I can), I can't wait, it'll be so cool,
being my first time, and many other's first time also, to take part in
such an thrilling event !

I hope to meet up with you , and many other's from this btlist.

Maybe we could all meet somewhere, and be ready for the start of the
event.

My only wories, are transport back home, as there may be prob's with
trains etc, but I'm not sure, I get that feeling quite often.

See you around, irl. maybe?

love

stu
x

Neil  wrote:
>
> Hi Stu,
>
> Yeah I'll definitely be there. I live in Brixton, London so Clapham
Common
> is only a mile or so down the road (for the stagger home.) Make sure you
go
> to the march (or parade as its being called this year) as think it is the
> most important bit. Also there is Summer Rites in Brockwell Park, Brixton
> on 1st August which is a smaller version of Pride.
>
> The info I have on these events is as follows:
>
> The parade starts at Hyde Park at 11am Saturday 4th July and works its way
> through the centre of London (Piccadilly, Westminster, Victoria) The its
a
> mad rush to get to Clapham which is often half the fun of the day. The
> festival which takes place there was free and unrestricted up until this
> year. As last year was mad, the local borough council have imposed a
limit
> of 100,000 visiting the common. Therefore it is a ticket only event (as
is
> Summer Rites) available at all good gay venues and by phone. Cost £5. Be
> quick as I think they have nearly all gone. There will be many big names
> playing on stage plus many tents including a BBC Radio 1 tent with their
top
> DJs broadcasting live to the UK. There is also a fun fair. That's all I
> know I'm afraid.
>
> Maybe those of us going could arrange to meet at some point. The earlier
> the better for me as a cocktail of drinks and "sweets" will make life
fuzzy
> towards the end of the day.
>
> Also maybe next year we could have a BT float on the parade?
>
> lots of luv,
>
> Neil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Stu
> Sent: 16 June 1998 01:33
> Subject: Re: btlist: Hello all !
>
> Yes starting with Pride '98, here in London, in the UK.
>
> Are you going Neil, or any other's from the btlist ?
>
> I've never been before, and wondered if you or any other btlist fans,
> have any info on what's going on,
>
> see you soon
>
> stu
> x
>
> Neil  wrote:
> >
> > Starting with Pride UK, I believe?!
> >
> > I'm sorry too that I couldn't make it to the meeting but I woke up with
a
> > mother of a hangover after having gone to bed around 5am. Sorry! It
> sounds
> > like a fab time was had by all.
> >
> > Maybe the Brits (and anybody else for that matter) could arrange
something
> > for the Edinburgh Festival performance of BT?
> >
> > Neil.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Stu
> > Sent: 16 June 1998 00:12
> > Subject: btlist: Hello all !
> >
> > Hey there Gavin, and all !
> >
> > Thanks for the email, and sorry for not making it to the gathering this
> > weekend just past.
> >
> > For those of you curios to know where I live, as Gav' certainly was,
> > (bless him), I'm from Brentwood, in Essex, in England !
> >
> > I would loved to have made the get together, but work came first, and
> > there was no way to change my work schedule.
> >
> > However, I am planning to have the weekend, starting 4/7/98 - 4th July,
> > off, so I may see some of you in London, during that time.
> >
> > Until then, enjoy life while you can, and look after yourselves.
> >
> > Bye for now.
> >
> > stu
> > x
> >

*****************************************************

From: Sean
Subject: btlist: Sad and jealous
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 16:20:32 +0100 (BST)

Hi y'all,

The London trip sounds as if it was brilliant, well I
didn't really expect it to be otherwise. I thought of you
all at the weekend while I was working, sheltered from the
raging thunderstorm overhead. Well I say sheltered but the
roof was leaking and there were more buckets than
customers. I work at M&S (Marks & Spencer for the non
Brits among us)in Hedge End near Southampton and normally
the weather here and in London is more or less the same so
I have an idea of what it was like.

Meeting Linda Henry well... what an experience especially
seeing as she sounds so down to earth. Well its no use
moping over a missed opportunity I'll just have to sit here
and read the lucky ones' accounts all day and imagine I was
there. I might have the chance to make my own little
pilgrimage to Thamesmead v soon as my mum's sisters live in
Greenwich, it wont be quite the same but at least I will
have been before the redevelopment.

PRIDE

I have the weekend in question off work because I am
supposed to be going on hols next week. However, it is
looking more and more unlikely. I don't want to buy a
ticket yet in case I can't go, but if I find out for
definite that I am free then I would be interested in
meeting up and attending. I will get back to you all with
further news as I sort myself out.

Stu, mate, just a quick question, if you don't have much
access to your email, how come you have over 10 messages
sitting in my inbox?

hasta luego,
Sean

*****************************************************

From: DL
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 13:47:46 EDT
Subject: btlist: London meeting

Well, I thought I might as well add my contribution to everyone else's!

Despite the weather, I had a wonderful time. I didn't really know what to
expect when I poked my head around the door of the Gloucester at 12.15 that
Saturday, but when I heard Mama Cass music and saw all the posters on the
wall, I knew I'd found my spiritual home! And so many people! I really
couldn't believe that so many people came from so far away to be there -
marvellous.

Being an eternal optomist, I hadn't bothered with a coat or a brollie, so I
did get slightly wet as we meandered our way to the Cutty Sark (the Anchor)
and then on to the bus stop to get the wrongly coloured 180 bus to Thamesmead,
but did I care? No!

Thamesmead was a revelation to me. Every time we turned a corner, there was
something familiar, and I found it strangely moving. By this time, Rich had
given me his umbrella, so I was a bit drier, but not much. Quite what the
locals made of us all tramping around in the rain, taking pictures of
stairways and rubbish chutes, I don't know! There was a woman standing in
Sandra's doorway, but the door wasn't quite wide enough to see in!

Back at the Gloucester, they had really gone to town for us, laying on a
buffet, letting us watch the film (as Sandra said, almost a religious
experience!) and then the cabaret, which was highly entertaining.

I was totally knackered by then, having had no sleep on Thursday night, so I
decided to take myself off home, totally missing the highlight of the evening
when Ms Henry turned up! Well, I suppose it serves me right, but I'm trying
not to think about it!

When I woke up the next morning, I really thought I had dreamt it all - the
memories had that 'out of this world' feel to them. Perhaps it was going to
Thamesmead, perhaps it was actaully being able to voice how I feel about the
film and people actually understanding me, I don't know. I wouldn't have
missed it for the world.

Anyway, going to Thamesmead has certainly sown a seed of a story in my head,
so I'm going to try to start to write something at last! Also, as I'm really
only about an hour away, I'm going to go back one fine sunny day to Thamesmead
and take some decent pictures! I'm also going to make it my personal mission
to find the house where they had the party!

Thank you to everyone who shared the 2 days with me - it was a pleasure and an
honour to meet you all, and hopefully it wasn't the last time.

Bye for now,

David
xxx

*****************************************************

From: DL
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 13:47:46 EDT
Subject: btlist: London meeting

Well, I thought I might as well add my contribution to everyone else's!

Despite the weather, I had a wonderful time. I didn't really know what to
expect when I poked my head around the door of the Gloucester at 12.15 that
Saturday, but when I heard Mama Cass music and saw all the posters on the
wall, I knew I'd found my spiritual home! And so many people! I really
couldn't believe that so many people came from so far away to be there -
marvellous.

Being an eternal optomist, I hadn't bothered with a coat or a brollie, so I
did get slightly wet as we meandered our way to the Cutty Sark (the Anchor)
and then on to the bus stop to get the wrongly coloured 180 bus to Thamesmead,
but did I care? No!

Thamesmead was a revelation to me. Every time we turned a corner, there was
something familiar, and I found it strangely moving. By this time, Rich had
given me his umbrella, so I was a bit drier, but not much. Quite what the
locals made of us all tramping around in the rain, taking pictures of
stairways and rubbish chutes, I don't know! There was a woman standing in
Sandra's doorway, but the door wasn't quite wide enough to see in!

Back at the Gloucester, they had really gone to town for us, laying on a
buffet, letting us watch the film (as Sandra said, almost a religious
experience!) and then the cabaret, which was highly entertaining.

I was totally knackered by then, having had no sleep on Thursday night, so I
decided to take myself off home, totally missing the highlight of the evening
when Ms Henry turned up! Well, I suppose it serves me right, but I'm trying
not to think about it!

When I woke up the next morning, I really thought I had dreamt it all - the
memories had that 'out of this world' feel to them. Perhaps it was going to
Thamesmead, perhaps it was actaully being able to voice how I feel about the
film and people actually understanding me, I don't know. I wouldn't have
missed it for the world.

Anyway, going to Thamesmead has certainly sown a seed of a story in my head,
so I'm going to try to start to write something at last! Also, as I'm really
only about an hour away, I'm going to go back one fine sunny day to Thamesmead
and take some decent pictures! I'm also going to make it my personal mission
to find the house where they had the party!

Thank you to everyone who shared the 2 days with me - it was a pleasure and an
honour to meet you all, and hopefully it wasn't the last time.

Bye for now,

David
xxx

*****************************************************

Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 16:45:02 -0400
From: Eric
Subject: Re: btlist: Green with envy!

At 04:00 PM 6/16/98 -0700, you wrote:
>So Eric, does this mean, you've slept with a famous celeb' ?
>
>You lucky thing !

Not with anyone from BT!

-Eric

*****************************************************

Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 18:50:21 -0400
From: Eric
Subject: btlist: website updates

Hiya,

Thanks to Ian, we have 3 new pix. Two new ones on Glen's page (bottom of
page), and one rather nice new one on Scott's page (also on the bottom).

Anyone want to share some London pix? Sandra?

Enjoy!!

-Eric

*****************************************************

Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 15:59:56 -0700
From: Stu
Subject: Re: btlist: Pride UK 98

Hi Neil, and one and all !

Thanks for the info, on the upcoming event of Pride '98. I hope to be
there, if I can get a ticket in time, I've seen the ad's in Gay Times, on
the back page, of this month.

Also, It's a matter of planning time off, from work, at Sainsburys, in
Brentwood, where I live, and so far, I've made the arrangements, 3 weeks
before the event happens.

If I make it (which I'm sure I can), I can't wait, it'll be so cool,
being my first time, and many other's first time also, to take part in
such an thrilling event !

I hope to meet up with you , and many other's from this btlist.

Maybe we could all meet somewhere, and be ready for the start of the
event.

My only wories, are transport back home, as there may be prob's with
trains etc, but I'm not sure, I get that feeling quite often.

See you around, irl. maybe?

love

stu
x

Neil  wrote:
>
> Hi Stu,
>
> Yeah I'll definitely be there. I live in Brixton, London so Clapham Common
> is only a mile or so down the road (for the stagger home.) Make sure you go
> to the march (or parade as its being called this year) as think it is the
> most important bit. Also there is Summer Rites in Brockwell Park, Brixton
> on 1st August which is a smaller version of Pride.
>
> The info I have on these events is as follows:
>
> The parade starts at Hyde Park at 11am Saturday 4th July and works its way
> through the centre of London (Piccadilly, Westminster, Victoria) The its a
> mad rush to get to Clapham which is often half the fun of the day. The
> festival which takes place there was free and unrestricted up until this
> year. As last year was mad, the local borough council have imposed a limit
> of 100,000 visiting the common. Therefore it is a ticket only event (as is
> Summer Rites) available at all good gay venues and by phone. Cost £5. Be
> quick as I think they have nearly all gone. There will be many big names
> playing on stage plus many tents including a BBC Radio 1 tent with their top
> DJs broadcasting live to the UK. There is also a fun fair. That's all I
> know I'm afraid.
>
> Maybe those of us going could arrange to meet at some point. The earlier
> the better for me as a cocktail of drinks and "sweets" will make life fuzzy
> towards the end of the day.
>
> Also maybe next year we could have a BT float on the parade?
>
> lots of luv,
>
> Neil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Stu
> Sent: 16 June 1998 01:33
> Subject: Re: btlist: Hello all !
>
> Yes starting with Pride '98, here in London, in the UK.
>
> Are you going Neil, or any other's from the btlist ?
>
> I've never been before, and wondered if you or any other btlist fans,
> have any info on what's going on,
>
> see you soon
>
> stu
> x
>
> Neil  wrote:
> >
> > Starting with Pride UK, I believe?!
> >
> > I'm sorry too that I couldn't make it to the meeting but I woke up with a
> > mother of a hangover after having gone to bed around 5am. Sorry! It
> sounds
> > like a fab time was had by all.
> >
> > Maybe the Brits (and anybody else for that matter) could arrange something
> > for the Edinburgh Festival performance of BT?
> >
> > Neil.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Stu
> > Sent: 16 June 1998 00:12
> > Subject: btlist: Hello all !
> >
> > Hey there Gavin, and all !
> >
> > Thanks for the email, and sorry for not making it to the gathering this
> > weekend just past.
> >
> > For those of you curios to know where I live, as Gav' certainly was,
> > (bless him), I'm from Brentwood, in Essex, in England !
> >
> > I would loved to have made the get together, but work came first, and
> > there was no way to change my work schedule.
> >
> > However, I am planning to have the weekend, starting 4/7/98 - 4th July,
> > off, so I may see some of you in London, during that time.
> >
> > Until then, enjoy life while you can, and look after yourselves.
> >
> > Bye for now.
> >
> > stu
> > x
> >

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 16:00:55 -0700
From: Stu
Subject: Re: btlist: Green with envy!

So Eric, does this mean, you've slept with a famous celeb' ?

You lucky thing !

stu
x

Eric  wrote:
>
> > Jeff and Eric: how many
> >points do you get for meeting a cast member??? =]
> >Later!
> >MGB
>
> Quite a few... but you get more for *sleeping* with one!
>
> -Eric
>

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 16:02:38 -0700
From: Stu
Subject: Re: btlist: Green with envy!

Ok andy, so you're a 1 point wonder,

I envy you buddy !, I do.

If only we were all as gifted as Andy is !

*smiles*

stu
x

Andy wrote:
>
> OK, so I'm a 1 point wonder.
>
> Jeff wrote:
> >Meeting a cast member? Gotta be a few extra points. :-) I suppose we'd
> >have to add degrees of meetings. Meeting one of the boys would be the top
> >prize. We were discussing in Chicago that there are certain things BT fans
> >MUST do. Among them, see the film on the big screen, which is no small feat
> >anymore, since many on the list have only seen it on video. See the play
> >somewhere in the world. Visit Thamesmead. And now we can add meet a cast
> >member (preferably without stalking him or her, which would mean MAJOR
> >demerits, and maybe jail time!). I'd say the 27 people who fulfilled the
> >visit AND the cast member encounter are pretty lucky. Now just fly to
> >Chicago or drive to Edinburgh to see the play AND see the big-screen version
> >somehow. You've got the Big Four.
>
> Eric wrote:
> >Quite a few... but you get more for *sleeping* with one!
>
> Now that is a BIG ask!!!
>
> Andy.
> (who likes his little point!!)
>
> --

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 19:54:00 +0100 (BST)
From: Chris
Subject: Re: btlist: Pride UK 98

On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Neil wrote:

> Yeah I'll definitely be there. I live in Brixton, London so Clapham Common
> is only a mile or so down the road (for the stagger home.) Make sure you go
> to the march (or parade as its being called this year) as think it is the
> most important bit. Also there is Summer Rites in Brockwell Park, Brixton
> on 1st August which is a smaller version of Pride.

I shall be on the march, but as a matter of prinicpal I will not be
attending the "Festival".

> Maybe those of us going could arrange to meet at some point. The earlier
> the better for me as a cocktail of drinks and "sweets" will make life fuzzy
> towards the end of the day.

Well, I'n not entirely sure what I'm doing afterwards, it probably
involves a picnis at hyde park after the march then hours in a real ale
pub

--
Chris

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Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 07:41:49 -0500
From: Jean
Subject: btlist: Gavin

Gavin, Gavin, Gavin. I've read each account of the Beautiful Weekend
hungrily and have happily partaken of each participant's enthusiasm and I
can even gaily admit to going grrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeen more than once (at
least I have the consolation of it being my best color ever) but yours is
something very special.

I was very touched by it. Truly. I could literally feel the generous
affections you described and it made me so happy for you and not even a hint
of green in that, although I would love to have basked in such moments with
all of you. (next time?)

Thank you for your description of being amongst the "nicest, warmest,
kind-hearted people I could ever hope to meet".

That's precisely the way I would describe all of you, too.

Thanks Gavin.

Jean.

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Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:34:13 +0200
From: Martijn
Subject: btlist: Miss you alll

Hiya Everybody,

I'm missing everybody a lott since last weekend...................

And i still miss the persons of the meet in october last year.........

So you all have to come in october for the next meet:-))))

Martijn

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Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 13:40:54 +0000
Subject: btlist: Unable to access mail account hnd97171

Hello all you budding bt'ers

I seem to be unable to connect to my usual email account, so I
can't access the btlist today, until then I will have to go home,
which means not being able to chat to you guys.

I appologise for this, but will be back asap. prob's next week.

Thanks for your comments, and take care of yourself, and keep those
stories running !

with love

stu
x

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From: Gavin
Subject: btlist: :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 14:02:22 +0000

Hi all,

For those of you who weren't at the meet this weekend only read this
message if you don't mind being jealous yet again. I'm lost for words
really, I can't adequately convey my feelings and my thanks too
everyone. However I feel must try so I'll give it my best shot. As
you may or may not know it was my first time with a group of gay people
and to start with I was a little overwhelmed by you all. However once
I had spent I little time talking and just being around you all I found
out you were the nicest, warmest, kind hearted people I could ever hope
too meet. The easy way you showed affection so readily for each other
and for me was such a great demonstration of what I've been missing in
my life and I took note. The trip to Thamesmeade was great for me, but
it was soon over shadowed by the people I met, I found Linda so very
humble and friendly which was so nice too see. However I was just as
pleased to meet all the other people who had decided to show their love
for this movie by travelling to the origins it all. I wont try and
remember all the names because I can't I was too busy looking at all
the happy faces to remember names. There were a handful of special
people I would like to thank personally, so don't be upset if your not
one of them I consider you all friends now.

Kent and Joe, one word for you "ditto".

Andre and Martijn, thank you so much for organising this event, I feel
like it was organised just for me too come out to the world. You
helped me to feel special for once, I think everyone noticed that my
confidence grew steadily throughout the weekend and I'm on a massive
high right now. And thank you so much for just being you.

Ian, thanks for listening.

Wolfgang, I hope I'll get too flip a slice of pizza for you again one
day.

Sandra, I'm amazed you managed too survive the weekend without your
oxygen tanks and portable shower. Great meeting you, hope you can make
it back to my country soon.

Thanks Marc and Sarah for being so observant when it really counted, we
owe you a lot.

I will be writing a more detailed account soon but for now I have just
one thing to say...

I AM GAY

Laters then,

Take care,

Gav XXX.

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From: jmcs
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 16:33:24 +0000
Subject: Re: btlist: website updates

Eric the Teaser :) wrote:

> Hiya,
>
> Thanks to Ian, we have 3 new pix. Two new ones on Glen's page (bottom of
> page), and one rather nice new one on Scott's page (also on the bottom).

... A few oxygen tanks later... OK, I'm back!

> Anyone want to share some London pix? Sandra?

My pleasure, Eric, but there's a small problem. I still haven't developed
my spools! I took about 60 pics, so I have no idea which of them would be
appropriate. I hope to develop them this Saturday morning and then I'd
have to send them to you via ordinary mail, 'cause you know I don't have a
scanner.

One more thing, though. I'm not sure I heard this right (my fellow
Gloucester mates can tell about it more clearly) but Linda asked us not to
put up pics of her because she could get into trouble with her agent.
Anyone who heard this in more detail, please acknowledge!

Ian's right, she was completely bowled-over by the BT phenomenon. Andre
and Martijn told her about the BT webring and all of the BT websites
around and she was astonished. I told her about our increasing obsession
(she laughed when I used the word "obsession", but that's what it is,
right?) that had made us start writing our own BT stories. She asked us
what these stories were about and we told her that they were prequels,
sequels, in-between stories, poems and everything she could possibly
imagine. I told her of Andy's site where she could find all our stories
and she was gaping at this point, I swear!!!

My dear friends, what a day!!!! Well, night anyway.

Take care.

Sandra.

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From: "Alex
Subject: btlist: Hi you all!
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 10:17:03 PDT

Hi you all out there!

I'm Alex, for those of you I didn't talk to during our great meeting in
London!

Well, I can't tell you how I felt beeing there with so many BT fans from
all over the world! I'd like to kiss you all and say ...thank you.

Sandra, you're right: Linda asked us not to put pics of her on the
Internet! That's what I heard too. I was close to her so I'm sure of
this.

Hear you soon!

Alex :-) XXXX

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Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:21:57 +0200
From: Andre
Subject: btlist: ADMIN: please remember this

Hello folks!

Might I remember you of the fact that message may not be longer than 40.000 chars? (including header information etc.)
If you intend to post a large submission, please cut it into smaller bits, to prevent bouncing of the message.

Andre
admin.

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Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 22:54:19 +0200
From: Martijn
Subject: Re: btlist: Miss you alll

> Martijn and all,

> Eric, Jeff, and myself are planning to be there in October, so mark your
> calendars!

I am planning to be there also.........so we can have fun again:-0))))

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Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 23:00:30 +0200
From: David
Subject: Re: btlist: Hi you all!

Alex  wrote:
> Sandra, you're right: Linda asked us not to put pics of her on the
> Internet! That's what I heard too. I was close to her so I'm sure of
> this.

She doesn't want these pictures on a website, but you can still share
them with us, right ? I would be very plesed to receive some of them by
email... I'm so sad to have missed this meeting, some pictures would
comfort me ! :)

Dave

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From: JP
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:30:28 EDT
Subject: Re: btlist: Miss you alll

Martijn and all,

Eric, Jeff, and myself are planning to be there in October, so mark your
calendars!

Love to all,

Jay

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From: "Robert
Subject: btlist: Re: October Fest?
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 00:55:38 +0200

Hi there Beautiful Thing List!

Wow! You guys had quite the time in London, it would seem! I sincerely hope
that official permission can be obtained from Linda Henry's agent, so that
those of us less-fortunate list members can see Mrs. Henry in "person"! (I
absolutely adore her portrayal of the character Sandra. In many ways she is
one of the best developed people in the film)

Also, I have seen several people mention something in October. Can anyone
fill me in on details? That might just be possible for me to attend, if it's
in Europe anyway!

Thaks so much, and keep up the tales of BT bliss! It's great to share in a
bit of your collective charge!
Laters,
Rob

(I can't believe I missed Sandra!)

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From: Tea
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 21:45:02 EDT
Subject: Re: btlist: :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))...

Gavin,

Beautiful letter! Glad to see the positive things, not only the movie, but its
fans are doing for each other. It takes a lot to say "I AM GAY" publicly, even
on line. Be proud of yourself and hold your person sacred, for so you are.

Love, Bert

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From: "Jeff
Subject: Re: btlist: Miss you alll
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 00:59:56 -0500

And Jay is paying our way!

Ta!

Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: JP
Date: Wednesday, June 17, 1998 4:29 p.m.
Subject: Re: btlist: Miss you alll

>Martijn and all,
>
>Eric, Jeff, and myself are planning to be there in October, so mark your
>calendars!
>
>Love to all,
>
>Jay
>

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:19:53 -0500
From: Jan
Subject: btlist: :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Gavin,

What a really sweet message, and quite how I felt after meeting the other
BT gang in Chicago. You'll probably find gay guys to be the same mix of
people as the general population, some are bitchy, some are not. But I
have to say that those who have taken BT into their hearts the way they we
all have, seem to be a bit more romantic, clever, gorgeous, and have
impeccable manners!!?! Seriously though, I am as glad that I met 'the
club' as you are. I hope one day to travel to England to one of the
reunions to meet more of the others. Take care and hope to see you sometime.

Jan

At 02:02 PM 6/17/98 +0000, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>For those of you who weren't at the meet this weekend only read this
>message if you don't mind being jealous yet again. I'm lost for words
>really, I can't adequately convey my feelings and my thanks too
>everyone. However I feel must try so I'll give it my best shot. As
>you may or may not know it was my first time with a group of gay people
>and to start with I was a little overwhelmed by you all. However once
>I had spent I little time talking and just being around you all I found
>out you were the nicest, warmest, kind hearted people I could ever hope
>too meet. The easy way you showed affection so readily for each other
>and for me was such a great demonstration of what I've been missing in
>my life and I took note. The trip to Thamesmeade was great for me, but
>it was soon over shadowed by the people I met, I found Linda so very
>humble and friendly which was so nice too see. However I was just as
>pleased to meet all the other people who had decided to show their love
>for this movie by travelling to the origins it all. I wont try and
>remember all the names because I can't I was too busy looking at all
>the happy faces to remember names. There were a handful of special
>people I would like to thank personally, so don't be upset if your not
>one of them I consider you all friends now.
>
>Kent and Joe, one word for you "ditto".
>
>Andre and Martijn, thank you so much for organising this event, I feel
>like it was organised just for me too come out to the world. You
>helped me to feel special for once, I think everyone noticed that my
>confidence grew steadily throughout the weekend and I'm on a massive
>high right now. And thank you so much for just being you.
>
>Ian, thanks for listening.
>
>Wolfgang, I hope I'll get too flip a slice of pizza for you again one
>day.
>
>Sandra, I'm amazed you managed too survive the weekend without your
>oxygen tanks and portable shower. Great meeting you, hope you can make
>it back to my country soon.
>
>Thanks Marc and Sarah for being so observant when it really counted, we
>owe you a lot.
>
>I will be writing a more detailed account soon but for now I have just
>one thing to say...
>
>I AM GAY
>
>Laters then,
>
>Take care,
>
>Gav XXX.
>

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From: Gavin
Subject: btlist: Your all very knid!
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 14:48:33 +0000

Thanks too everyone for there kind words regarding my last post to the
list, it was great to hear that people agreed with me and that they had
similar experiences.

Your kind words are always appreciated.

Laters then,

Take care,

Gav XXX.

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:19:16 +0100 (BST)
From: Stu
Subject: Re: btlist: Green with envy!

Hi Eric

Woah that's hmmm pretty interesting stuff mate.

Just out of curiosity, was it anyone we know from here ?

Anyway, don't worry about finding a celeb, because, those of us on this
btlist, can be identified as being celeb's ourselves, follow my drift.

For those of you who don't, those of you who went to the BT gathering,
would have met Linda, and you lot are the ones who signed the poster, so
you're now famous.

stu
x

On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Eric  wrote:

> At 04:00 PM 6/16/98 -0700, you wrote:
> >So Eric, does this mean, you've slept with a famous celeb' ?
> >
> >You lucky thing !
>
> Not with anyone from BT!
>
> -Eric
>
>

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:26:41 +0100 (BST)
From: Stu
Subject: Re: btlist: website updates

Hi Eric, I see that you are alive, still.

In reply to the letter, below, I wouldn't mind seeing these london pics,
are you gonna put them on the web ?

stu
x

On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Eric  wrote:

> Hiya,
>
> Thanks to Ian, we have 3 new pix. Two new ones on Glen's page (bottom of
> page), and one rather nice new one on Scott's page (also on the bottom).
>
> Anyone want to share some London pix? Sandra?
>
>
>
> Enjoy!!
>
> -Eric
>
>

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:31:12 +0100 (BST)
From: Stu
Subject: Re: btlist: Miss you alll

Hi Matijn, stu here,

Just a message to let you know I would be proud to meet in October this
year, as will everyone else.

I need the details of what's planned, can you give me any ?

i.e. times and what we're doing,

with love
stu
x

On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, Martijn  wrote:

> Hiya Everybody,
>
>
> I'm missing everybody a lott since last weekend...................
>
> And i still miss the persons of the meet in october last year.........
>
>
> So you all have to come in october for the next meet:-))))
>
>
> Martijn
>
>
>

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:38:58 +0100 (BST)
From: Stu
Subject: Re: btlist: :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Gavin, our Hero ! #I need a Hero ......#

sorry couldn't resist that one mate.

Glad to hear you had a great time over the weekend, even though I didn't
make it.

I guess it was bad timing, not finding out about the event, until last
minute, I even put a letter in Gay Times, about sugesting a gettogether,
but after joining this site, I found it was already being organised.

So look's like I was one of many who were late as could be.

I'm jumping head over heels, and completely off my face, knowing that
you're gay, and wish you every sucess in the future, my only worry is that
you may feel down if you've got no one to turn to partner wise (such as
myself), but hey look up and keep smiling and the world will smile with
you !

with love and best wishes for 98' and beyond.

stu.
x

On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, Gavin wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> For those of you who weren't at the meet this weekend only read this
> message if you don't mind being jealous yet again. I'm lost for words
> really, I can't adequately convey my feelings and my thanks too
> everyone. However I feel must try so I'll give it my best shot. As
> you may or may not know it was my first time with a group of gay people
> and to start with I was a little overwhelmed by you all. However once
> I had spent I little time talking and just being around you all I found
> out you were the nicest, warmest, kind hearted people I could ever hope
> too meet. The easy way you showed affection so readily for each other
> and for me was such a great demonstration of what I've been missing in
> my life and I took note. The trip to Thamesmeade was great for me, but
> it was soon over shadowed by the people I met, I found Linda so very
> humble and friendly which was so nice too see. However I was just as
> pleased to meet all the other people who had decided to show their love
> for this movie by travelling to the origins it all. I wont try and
> remember all the names because I can't I was too busy looking at all
> the happy faces to remember names. There were a handful of special
> people I would like to thank personally, so don't be upset if your not
> one of them I consider you all friends now.
>
> Kent and Joe, one word for you "ditto".
>
> Andre and Martijn, thank you so much for organising this event, I feel
> like it was organised just for me too come out to the world. You
> helped me to feel special for once, I think everyone noticed that my
> confidence grew steadily throughout the weekend and I'm on a massive
> high right now. And thank you so much for just being you.
>
> Ian, thanks for listening.
>
> Wolfgang, I hope I'll get too flip a slice of pizza for you again one
> day.
>
> Sandra, I'm amazed you managed too survive the weekend without your
> oxygen tanks and portable shower. Great meeting you, hope you can make
> it back to my country soon.
>
> Thanks Marc and Sarah for being so observant when it really counted, we
> owe you a lot.
>
> I will be writing a more detailed account soon but for now I have just
> one thing to say...
>
> I AM GAY
>
> Laters then,
>
> Take care,
>
> Gav XXX.
>
>

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