-
From: Todd
- Date: 6/7/97 12:01PM
- Subject: Re: CD Cover....
-
- I have to agree. The CD cover picture is all wrong. At least it isn't
- near as bad as the video cover. It still looks appealing, aside from the
- sunglasses. Of course I wouldn't complain if he were dancing with me and
- had sunglasses on;-)
-
- Todd
-
- ----------
- > From: HeadDr
- > Subject: CD Cover....
- > Date: Friday, June 06, 1997 10:48 PM
- >
- > Just got the sound track today.... I just luv it.... I've been
- jamming
- > all day. However, the subject of CD covers must come up...( After all,
- it is
- > the first thing that you see!! ) I have no other way to sugar coat it
- but
- > Ste (Scott) take off the shades...UGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!! (Whew!!!, I
- feel
- > better now!!) Gawd, I hate that picture!! Why could they not put the
- one
- > on back of the CD on the front??? It would have been perfect!!!!
- >
- > Next subject, merchandise --- I cannot wait. I want a tee shirt and a
- hat
- > most definitely and I'm sure that I'll order more. I am assuming that
- this
- > will be available in the US too!!
- >
- > Next subject, the video -- 80 bucks.. and that's as low as it goes for
- > now!!! And the FBI wonders why there is so much video piratecy going
- on???
- > But I did buy my copy of Jerry Maguire for 14.88 at Walmart today!!!
- :)
- >
- > Did I mention that I lived in Alabama?? You folks in the midwest think
- > it's tough there... MOVE HERE!!! LOL
- >
- > Just a bit of news, my friend that works on the Rosie show comes home
- next
- > weekend and will be watching BT with me. I'll let you know where it
- goes??
- >
- > How's the agent thing going?? I hope good...!!!
- >
- > I did go to Blockbuster today and re-rent BT... Needless to say, the
- sales
- > clerk knew who I was.... (No restraining orders has been issue yet
- .
- > LOL!!!)
- >
- > Ste vs. Jamie.. ++++ nothing is going to change my mind!!!!!
- >
- > All this email... I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!
- >
- > Jim
**************************************************************
- From: Todd
- Date: 6/7/97 12:45PM
- Subject: new one
-
- This is a new one for me. Beautiful Thing saved me from a huge hangover.
- I watched it after a 'happy hour' that lasted 5 hours and included 'I
- never'. I decided I didn't want to go to bed so drunk so I watched the
- movie and by the time it was over, I had sobered up a little bit. And it
- saved me!
-
- Todd
**************************************************************
- From: <00mbtorwelle
- Date: 6/7/97 3:39PM
- Subject: I"m a newbie
-
-
- Hello all. I just joined this list today.
-
- And, well, I just saw the movie on Tuesday, and got the soundtrack
- yesterday!
-
- I do have a question about the film.
-
- What is the deal with Sandra and Tony at the end? Was that a break-up,
- or just a butt-out for while? Why did she do that to him? That part, I just
- didn't get!
-
- Anyway, I'm a college Senior at Ball State University in Muncie,
- Indiana. Yes, it sucks, but oh, well!
-
- I'm also going to doing a work abroad program in England...probably
- London in January, so I'm also anxious in talking to anyone from there!
-
- Anyway, nice to meet you all!!!
-
- -- Brian
**************************************************************
- From: Mike
- Date: 6/7/97 5:55PM
- Subject: RE: I"m a newbie
-
- Brian, 00mbtorwelle, wrote:
- >What is the deal with Sandra and Tony at the end? Was that a break-up,
- >or just a butt-out for while? Why did she do that to him? That part, I just
- >didn't get!
-
- Hi Brian,
-
- Welcome to the BT list.
-
- Hey, I'm from Indiana, too. Grew up in southern part of the state, Scott
- County. That was a long time ago, though. I'm almost 50 now. Live in
- Oakland, CA., right across the bay from San Francisco.
-
- Over the few months this list has been in operation, several of us have
- mused about the relationship between Sandra and Tony (it is definitely a
- break up, by the way). Many of us have felt the confusion you express.
-
- Right from the start Jamie warns Tony that, "Me mum goes off things, fast."
- But clearly she is getting irritated with Tony from the point where he
- tries to explain "labotomy" to her. She wants more from him than he is able
- to deliver. That's my impression. She's also going through changes. She's
- thrown out all of Jamie's baby toys (symbolic of his coming of age) and in
- a sense, Tony is one of HER toys. She's a powerful woman and she's just
- gotten herself a new job with more money, prestige, commitments and
- responsibilities. I think she sees that Tony isn't going to meet her real
- (as opposed to merely sexual) needs as the woman she is becoming. Although
- kinda cute and loveable, he is a bit wimpy, you have to admit. (I think his
- character is based on Truedeau's "Zonker" -- looks like him anyway.) The
- playwright also had to get Tony out of the way so there could be the dance
- scene between Sandra and Leah. Precisely BECAUSE she's just broken up with
- Tony, we (as audience) are allowed to wonder a bit about Sandra's
- sexuality. No (IMHO), she's not becoming a lesbian, but something important
- has opened up in her life.
-
- That's how I make sense of it, anyway. I'm sure everyone on this list has
- their own ideas. I think it's great that we get so involved with these
- characters that they are like REAL people to us! One of my hopes for this
- list is that some of us become REAL people to one another!!
-
- Cao,
-
- Mike
**************************************************************
- From: chakravorty
- Date: 6/7/97 6:35PM
- Subject: Re: I"m a newbie
-
- I too am quite hung up over the Sandra/Tony break-up and have two
- competing theories. On the one hand - Sandra has an exploitative side and
- once Tony has outlived his purpose ( i.e., now that she' moving up in
- her career she expects to broaden her horizons) she gives him the heave
- ho. On the other hand (and the screenplay tends to offer small support
- here), Sandra has just behaved impulsively, she may regret this action in
- a day or two. In my "sequel fantasy" (I don't think a sequel would work
- in the real world, at least on the level of Ste and Jamie's relationship
- - and at least not for 20 years) Tony proves to Sandra that he can and
- does "fight" for something he wants by coming back, courting, and
- confronting until she comes to her senses.
**************************************************************
- From: Mike
- Date: 6/7/97 6:45PM
- Subject: Re: Question.
-
- At 12:09 PM -0500 6/5/97, Charles wrote:
- >Anyway, I have a question concerning a line in the movie. After Jamie
- >gave Ste the gay magazine he reads a bit from it about not being able to
- >contract the HIV virus from a "frotage." Okay, two things: first, what
- >was Jamie's response to Ste (I still can't understand it to well);
- >second, what is a "frotage?" I have an idea but want to make sure.
-
- Welcome to the list, Charles.
-
- The French word *frotter* means "to rub." "Frottage" (not sure of
the
- spelling) would be one man rubbing his penis against another man's abdoman
- to get off.
-
- A British friend of mine pointed out that Ste (rather a boy of his social
- class) probably wouldn't know how to say this word with a French accent but
- would have made something more like "fro'ege" out of it. Of course then the
- joke wouldn't have worked.
-
- Jamie's response was, "It's French. Yogurt." But of course he has that
- wrong. The French word for yogurt is "frommage" (sp?) but that's the joke.
-
- Mike
**************************************************************
- From: Todd
- Date: 6/7/97 7:57PM
- Subject: Re: I'm a newbie
-
- Good point Mike. I didn't even put a link to Sandra being able to dance
- with Leah at the end. I also think you can kind of tell where Sandra's
- relationship with Tony is going when she shows Jamie the picture of the
- sofa and makes no mention of Tony. Just her and Jamie putting there feet
- up on a cold winters night sitting on the sofa. The first time I saw the
- movie, I thought it was peculiar that she didn't mention Tony in that
- scene.
-
- Todd
- ----------
- > From: Mike
- > Subject: RE: I"m a newbie
- > Date: Saturday, June 07, 1997 5:55 PM
- >
- > Brian, 00mbtorwelle wrote:
- > >What is the deal with Sandra and Tony at the end? Was that a break-up,
- > >or just a butt-out for while? Why did she do that to him? That part, I
- just
- > >didn't get!
- >
- > Hi Brian,
- >
- > Right from the start Jamie warns Tony that, "Me mum goes off things,
- fast."
- > But clearly she is getting irritated with Tony from the point where he
- > tries to explain "labotomy" to her. She wants more from him than he is
- able
- > to deliver. That's my impression. She's also going through changes. She's
- > thrown out all of Jamie's baby toys (symbolic of his coming of age) and
- in
- > a sense, Tony is one of HER toys. She's a powerful woman and she's just
- > gotten herself a new job with more money, prestige, commitments and
- > responsibilities. I think she sees that Tony isn't going to meet her real
- > (as opposed to merely sexual) needs as the woman she is becoming.
- Although
- > kinda cute and loveable, he is a bit wimpy, you have to admit. (I think
- his
- > character is based on Truedeau's "Zonker" -- looks like him anyway.) The
- > playwright also had to get Tony out of the way so there could be the
- dance
- > scene between Sandra and Leah. Precisely BECAUSE she's just broken up
- with
- > Tony, we (as audience) are allowed to wonder a bit about Sandra's
- > sexuality. No (IMHO), she's not becoming a lesbian, but something
- important
- > has opened up in her life.
- >
- >>
- > Mike
**************************************************************
- From: Todd
- Date: 6/7/97 7:57PM
- Subject: Re: I'm a newbie
-
- Good point Mike. I didn't even put a link to Sandra being able to dance
- with Leah at the end. I also think you can kind of tell where Sandra's
- relationship with Tony is going when she shows Jamie the picture of the
- sofa and makes no mention of Tony. Just her and Jamie putting there feet
- up on a cold winters night sitting on the sofa. The first time I saw the
- movie, I thought it was peculiar that she didn't mention Tony in that
- scene.
-
- Todd
- ----------
- > From: Mike
- > Subject: RE: I"m a newbie
- > Date: Saturday, June 07, 1997 5:55 PM
- >
- > Brian, 00mbtorwelle, wrote:
- > >What is the deal with Sandra and Tony at the end? Was that a break-up,
- > >or just a butt-out for while? Why did she do that to him? That part, I
- just
- > >didn't get!
- >
- > Hi Brian,
- >
- > Right from the start Jamie warns Tony that, "Me mum goes off things,
- fast."
- > But clearly she is getting irritated with Tony from the point where he
- > tries to explain "labotomy" to her. She wants more from him than he is
- able
- > to deliver. That's my impression. She's also going through changes. She's
- > thrown out all of Jamie's baby toys (symbolic of his coming of age) and
- in
- > a sense, Tony is one of HER toys. She's a powerful woman and she's just
- > gotten herself a new job with more money, prestige, commitments and
- > responsibilities. I think she sees that Tony isn't going to meet her real
- > (as opposed to merely sexual) needs as the woman she is becoming.
- Although
- > kinda cute and loveable, he is a bit wimpy, you have to admit. (I think
- his
- > character is based on Truedeau's "Zonker" -- looks like him anyway.) The
- > playwright also had to get Tony out of the way so there could be the
- dance
- > scene between Sandra and Leah. Precisely BECAUSE she's just broken up
- with
- > Tony, we (as audience) are allowed to wonder a bit about Sandra's
- > sexuality. No (IMHO), she's not becoming a lesbian, but something
- important
- > has opened up in her life.
- >
- >>
- > Mike
**************************************************************
- From: Gavin
- Date: 6/7/97 8:31PM
- Subject: Pilgrimage
-
- Just got back from my own BT pilgrimage. Shot off a whole roll of film!
- Started at Thamesmead and ended the day at the Gloucester.
-
- Jay's right! Most of the sites are very very close together. They aren't
- all THAT logical, however. I think I managed to find the original flats
- (NOT numbered 268, 269 and 270; but 19, 20, 21). I'm fairly certain I
- identified them correctly: the balconies are quite distinctive and the way
- the flats are arranged (Leah's set back from the other two) is unique in the
- estate as far as I could tell. It's not *quite* true to say that the
- locations were all logical and cogent so that you could actually imagine
- Jamie and Ste actually living in those flats, etc. although I will admit
- that it is largely true.
-
- Now I get to split hairs:
-
- The flats are on the 2nd floor and are accessed by stairs only. The flats
- are NOT in one of the tower blocks, but in one of the low-rise blocks over
- the shops beside the Piazza. I can't be one of the tower blocks, because
- none of the tower blocks have the distinctive balconies with sloping
- partitions between units. She wouldn't have been able to get her
- supermarket trolley into the corridor either, 'cos there's no lift (the
- flats being so low) and she'd have had to carry the trolley up the stairs.
- The lift you see in the movie is probably from an adjacent tower block. The
- stairs are probably for real?
-
- We see Ste sitting by the lakeside crying as Sandra walks back with Louise.
- That's real. That's exactly the route Sandra would take to get home.
-
- When we see Sandra following Jamie to The Gloucester, we see her passing
- Trevor and Leah on some stairs. I found the stairs (again unique), and they
- lead AWAY from the 180 bus stop.
-
- The 180 bus does indeed take you from their doorstep to the Gloucester
- (about 30 min bus ride). But you'd have to take it from the OTHER side of
- the road from the bus stop you see Jamie getting on. If you take the 180
- bus from the same stop as you see Jamie getting on, you will be going in the
- OPPOSITE direction.
-
- The bus doesn't actually stop opposite the Gloucester. Is stops a little
- way away. Ask the bus driver to tell you when you're at Greenwich Park.
- The Gloucester is just by the entrance to the park. There isn't actually a
- "bloody great pink neon arse outside of it," and you wouldn't actually know
- it was a gay pub from looking at the outside of it. In fact, because it is
- so close to the park, in the daytime many of its patrons are just
- unsuspecting American tourists. I took some pics of the inside of the pub
- and of the cute bartenders!
-
- I didn't manage to find the Cutty Sark (pub) but I did find the Cutty Sark
- (ship).
-
-
- Gav.
**************************************************************
- From: JOE
- Date: 6/7/97 10:02PM
- Subject: Re: I'm a newbie
-
- > Subject: I"m a newbie
- > Date: Saturday, June 07, 1997 2:39 PM
- >
- > Hello all. I just joined this list today.
- >
- > And, well, I just saw the movie on Tuesday, and got the soundtrack
- > yesterday!
- >
- > Anyway, I'm a college Senior at Ball State University in Muncie,
- > Indiana. Yes, it sucks, but oh, well!
-
- Oh, well, it was David Letterman's alma mater, wasn't it? <G>
-
- > Anyway, nice to meet you all!!!
- >
- Welcome to the list, Brian. Have you checked out the IRC channel on
- DALnet yet? Great place several times a day to meet folks from the
- list.
-
- Gary
**************************************************************
- From: <Cabaret
- Date: 6/8/97 2:00AM
- Subject: Re: I"m a newbie
-
- Well, I had a bit of a different outlook on the reason for Tony and Sandra's
- relationship not working. My theory is that, the night that Jamie came out
- to her, she finally realised that she and Tony were too different to make it
- work. There seemed to be a string of examples for that. One being the scene
- on the proch when Tony asks if anyone saw University Challenge and all he
- gets are blank stares. The best example that I found, tho was the scene on
- the balcony the night that Jamie and Ste went to the Gloucester. He tells
- her that she's "fighting it" and she asks him what he's ever had to fight
- for in his life. I think the basic reason that she dumped was simply that
- she is very genuine and down-to-earth and (not to sound classist) very
- blue-collar, while Tony is very cerebral and has a very white-collar
- attitude. So I guess, after a while, Sandra decided that he was just not the
- type of person that she wanted or needed. Lemme know what you think. :)
-
- Mason
**************************************************************
- From: Gavin
- Date: 6/8/97 7:48AM
- Subject: Re: I"m a newbie
-
- At 02:00 6/8/97 -0400, Cabaret wrote:
- >attitude. So I guess, after a while, Sandra decided that he was just not the
- >type of person that she wanted or needed. Lemme know what you think. :)
-
- I think there is ample evidence in the movie to support that view. Sandra
- and Tony just aren't compatible. No need to philisophise about whether she
- was discovering something about her own sexuality or that she needed to
- spend more time with her son. Like Jamie says, his Mum goes off things fast.
-
-
- Gav.
**************************************************************
- From: Todd
- Date: 6/8/97 9:49AM
- Subject: sequel question
-
- My question is in a sequel, how much will Sandra be involved in her son's
- gay life? Will she go with Jamie and Ste to the Clouster? Will she be the
- kind of mother Jamie will go to when he and Ste are dealing with being
- apart (if they don't live together in the flat above the Anchor)? Just a
- point I wanted to get others ideas on.
-
- Todd
**************************************************************
- From: <HeadDr
- Date: 6/8/97 11:12AM
- Subject: Sequel Idea..
-
- I think that Saundra and Jamie should move in above the pub as planned.
- However, in Ste case, things at home get so bad that Saundra allows him to
- move in with them. The day to day activities of Ste and Jamie will allow
- Saundra to have full acceptance of their relationship. Here's a twist, the
- pub does not do so well to begin with so as an idea, Ste and Jamie suggest
- turning it into a gay pub to drum up business. Fear of losing her temp.
- license and failure, Saundra tries this idea. This is the turning point of
- the pub. It goes from near failure to utmost success. When business is
- booming, this is where Leah comes in. Saundra inquires if she was serious
- about the job a the pub and allows her to work there -- eventually getting
- her out of the apartment building that she is so bored with anyways...
- Just a outline, we can fill in the middles later... LOL
-
- Jim
**************************************************************
- From: Gavin
- Date: 6/8/97 2:04PM
- Subject: Re: Question.
-
- At 14:45 6/7/97 -0800, Mike wrote:
- >A British friend of mine pointed out that Ste (rather a boy of his social
- >class) probably wouldn't know how to say this word with a French accent but
- >would have made something more like "fro'ege" out of it. Of course then
the
- >joke wouldn't have worked.
-
- True. I wondered about that too. If Ste had actually been intended to
- pronounce it like french, then Jamie wouldn't have to point out that it's
- french, would he?
-
- >Jamie's response was, "It's French. Yogurt." But of course he has that
- >wrong. The French word for yogurt is "frommage" (sp?) but that's the joke.
-
- Fromage is cheese! Yoghurt's "yaourt". I think this is a joke along the
- lines of the "Sixteenth Chapel". As in Monet didn't paint the Sistine
- Chapel, but "Sistine" she got wrong anyway. So an error compounded.
-
-
- Gav
**************************************************************
- From: "E. F. P.
- Date: 6/8/97 4:21PM
- Subject: Re: Question.
-
- > The French word *frotter* means "to rub." "Frottage" (not sure
of the
- > spelling) would be one man rubbing his penis against another man's abdoman
- > to get off.
- >
- > A British friend of mine pointed out that Ste (rather a boy of his social
- > class) probably wouldn't know how to say this word with a French accent but
- > would have made something more like "fro'ege" out of it. Of course then
the
- > joke wouldn't have worked.
- >
- > Jamie's response was, "It's French. Yogurt." But of course he has that
- > wrong. The French word for yogurt is "frommage" (sp?) but that's the
joke.
- >
- > Mike
-
- Hello Mike,
-
- If I had seen a non-subtiteled (in Dutch)version of BT, a part of the
- dialogue would have been a mystery to me. Only when I read your
- explanation I realized that the word Ste says is frottage. But I have to
- dissapoint you. The French words for yogurt are "yaourt" and
"yogourt".
- "Fromage" is cheese in French. So if Jamie would have said "It's French.
- Cheese." , the joke you're mentionning would have worked.
-
- Love
-
- Eric
-
- PS: The 22th I had also written a mail to the list, but I've the
- impression that something went wrong, because I didn't receive my own
- mail back via the list.
**************************************************************
- From: CARMEN
- Date: 6/8/97 4:53PM
- Subject: Re: Question.
-
- For all the newbies...
- No you won't get your own posts back from the list....It has to do with
- the software used. If you want to keep a copy of your own posts, just
- save them to a sent-mail folder...You can use CC or Bcc for this.
- Good luck, and welcome to the list!
- tory
**************************************************************
- From: Niall
- Date: 6/8/97 5:32PM
- Subject: BT showing in Belfast on 27th June
-
- Third time lucky I hope. First time got lost in Davie's Win95 rebuild.
- (Davie, I sympathise, having rebuilt both my home machine and work machine
- in the last month.) Second bounced cause I sent it from work, but it is my
- personal e-mail that is registered on the list.
-
- ---------------
-
- I have just caught up with my e-mail backlog, having this week deleted 1386
- mail messages, of which 709 came from the BT list since 12th March (I have
- kept some as well). So I thought it was about time I posted to the list for
- the first time.
-
- I am the secretary of Cara-Friend, which is the local lesbigay switchboard
- in Belfast, Northern Ireland. We have arranged a fund-raising showing of BT
- in the Queen's Film Theatre in Belfast on Friday 27th June at 7.15pm.
- Tickets are available in advance or at the door for L5.
-
- Any other list members from Northern Ireland? Email me privately.
-
- Niall
**************************************************************
- From: Tom
- Date: 6/8/97 5:36PM
- Subject: Re: Question.
-
- > >Jamie's response was, "It's French. Yogurt." But of course he has
that
- > >wrong. The French word for yogurt is "frommage" (sp?) but that's the
- joke.
- >
- > Fromage is cheese! Yoghurt's "yaourt". I think this is a joke along the
- > lines of the "Sixteenth Chapel". As in Monet didn't paint the Sistine
- > Chapel, but "Sistine" she got wrong anyway. So an error compounded.
-
- Don't take the joke too literally, but I think Jamie was refering to
- fromage frais.
-
- Regards
-
- Tom
**************************************************************
- From: Niall
- Date: 6/8/97 5:37PM
- Subject: Copies of own post (was RE: Question.)
-
- I just got Tory's message at the same time as I reposted my own. This is
- the only e-mail list I have ever seen that works this way. Davie, if this
- is true there should be some sort of warning. Sorry for the multiple
- messages.
-
- ...Niall
-
- > From: CARMEN
- > Date: Sunday, June 08, 1997, 21:58:48
- > Subject: Re: Question.
- >
- > For all the newbies...
- > No you won't get your own posts back from the list....It has to do with
- > the software used. If you want to keep a copy of your own posts, just
- > save them to a sent-mail folder...You can use CC or Bcc for this.
- > Good luck, and welcome to the list!
- > tory
**************************************************************
- From: <Joe
- Date: 6/8/97 6:13PM
- Subject: The ongoing debate
-
- I think it is sad that Sandra's relationship doesn't work out because her
- problem is she DOES fight eveything. The issue with her boyfriend being too
- "white collar" is, to an extent, a great character trait. Let's face it, all
- the people whi live in this complex are pretty much different from the norm
- (another question - how can you say he is too white collar when he is dressed
- like typical american white trash, drives a beat up van, yet watches College
- Bowl. That is a GREAT character, he is a living paradox of what a person
- appears to be and what a person is). As for the idea of a sequel, that would
- undermine the title of the movie and the main plot. Let's be realistic here,
- neither Jaimie nor Ste's lives are going to be be easy or fun. Their
- happiness and security are unsure, yet despite all of society's feelings
- about the two, they have what no other person has in that movie - Real Love -
- and that is a beautiful thing. A sequel - probably not. Let Jaimie and Ste
- enjoy that one great moment - it might be their last.
-
- Jimmy J.
**************************************************************
- From: David
- Date: 6/8/97 6:19PM
- Subject: Re: The ongoing debate
-
- Joe wrote...
-
- [snip]
- > undermine the title of the movie and the main plot. Let's be realistic here,
- > neither Jaimie nor Ste's lives are going to be be easy or fun. Their
- > happiness and security are unsure, yet despite all of society's feelings
- > about the two, they have what no other person has in that movie - Real Love -
- > and that is a beautiful thing. A sequel - probably not. Let Jaimie and Ste
- > enjoy that one great moment - it might be their last.
-
- Real love? are you sure about that Joe? I know they obviously care about each at the
- time, but isn't a lot of that thru the circumstances they are in?
-
- Davie.
**************************************************************
- From: Meinolf
- Date: 6/8/97 6:20PM
- Subject: Re: sequel question
-
- Hallo Todd.
-
- > gay life? Will she go with Jamie and Ste to the Clouster? Will she be the
- If you mean, is she going to the "Glouster"!
- Didn't she changed her dressing for going to it the night the film ends
- at it. No she din't do for this reason I know.
- But I think she wouldn't look so startled when Leah says she will go
- with Jamie and Ste tonight, when she is not going with them be herselfe.
- Dont't you think so? :-)
-
- > kind of mother Jamie will go to when he and Ste are dealing with being
- > apart (if they don't live together in the flat above the Anchor)?
- I thing the relationship has become so closed now.
- And if he's not coming by himselfe she will catch him by his neck like a
- young cat as she has always done in his entire live. Doesn't she? <G>
-
-
- Bye
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- Meinolf
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- From: Simon
- Date: 6/8/97 6:43PM
- Subject: Re:Question
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- The joke about frottage being French yogurt comes from a trendy low-fat
- yogurt-like cheese product sold in the UK as "Fromage Frais" which is indeed
- imported from France.
-
- Why wouldn't Ste know basic French pronounciation? French is widely taught
- in British schools - at least as much as Spanish is in the States. In my
- school in the UK it was mandatory for a couple of years, then it became an
- option.
-
- Simon.
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- From: Meinolf
- Date: 6/8/97 6:52PM
- Subject: Re: Question.
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- Hallo Mike,
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- > The French word *frotter* means "to rub." "Frottage" (not sure
of the
- > spelling) would be one man rubbing his penis against another man's
- > abdoman to get off.
- This was very new to me and I locked it up in the lexicon. :-)
-
- When I first heard the word in the doubted version here in germany I
- smiled because of the explanation from Jamie, 'cause I thought of cheese
- by the word. A special kind of cheese.
-
- It apears when a man is uncut and not so clean.
-
- In german slang this is caled "Kaese" (cheese). And then a form curd in
- german called "Quark" is alsow known as "fresh cheese" here.
-
- > A British friend of mine pointed out that Ste (rather a boy of his social
- > class) probably wouldn't know how to say this word with a French accent
- Don't the have to have a foreign language in school in britain?
- I thouhd this would be frensh first.
- And they have "foreign words" to, don't they. More of them from fench
- than german. So I think a basic even on a low level will be there.
-
- > but would have made something more like "fro'ege" out of it. Of course
- When he reads frottage?
- I don't think so! I think he would tell it like "cottage" with "fr"
- instat of the "c".
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- > Jamie's response was, "It's French. Yogurt." But of course he has that
- > wrong. The French word for yogurt is "frommage" (sp?) but that's the
joke.
- See above.
-
- Good night for now! :-)
-
- Meinolf
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