COVER: LEFT PHOTO - Andrew Alman of the DFW Grotto at the entrance to Icebox Cave at Colorado Bend State Park. Here he is manning the TTS (Trash Transport System) a.k.a. "The Bucket Brigade" while performing his Eagle Project for Boy Scouts. Photo by Mark Alman of the DFW Grotto.

RIGHT PHOTO - Matt Sanders on rope (and on ladder) ascending from the depths of Icebox Cave at CBSP after retrieving the last bit of our gear (including my camcorder!). Approx. depth is 40 feet. Photo by Mark Alman of the DFW Grotto.

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Relevant Cave-oriented Information

Texas & Northern New Mexico

CAVE RESCUE - Call Collect (512) 686-0234

Texas Caver The Texas Caver

 
$25/year U.T. Station

Box 8026

Austin, TX 78713-8026

Texas Speleological Assoc. John Spence

U.T. Station

Box 8026

Austin, TX 78713-8026

National Speleological Society NSS

$30/year Cave Avenue

Huntsville, Al 35810

Texas Cave Management Assoc. P.O. Box 202853
 

Regular- $100 Austin, TX 78720-2853

Payable in (4) $25 installments
 

Meeting Location

 
A backpacking/climbing/caving store, Recreational Equipment Inc., is the meeting site for the Dallas-Fort Worth Grotto. The address is 4515 LBJ Freeway, Farmers Branch, Texas 75244. The phone number is (972) 490-5989.

REI is located just west of the intersection of the Dallas North Tollway and the LBJ Freeway. To get there from Fort Worth and the mid-cities, take I-30, 183 or any east-west artery to Dallas and get on Stemmons Expressway (I-35), then follow it north and then turn east on 635 instead of continuing north toward Lewisville and Denton.

Take the North Dallas Tollway-Dallas Parkway exit (the Galleria and its twin towers are visible on the left or north as you exit.) Make a left on the overhead ramps, cross over 635 and make a left (or U-turn) to go back on the I-635 West service road. Stay on the service road, go through the light at Welch Road and REI is on the immediate right. If you get to Midway Road, you've gone too far.

From downtown Dallas, go north on the tollway, crossing over 635 and make the left to go west on LBJ. Then stay on the service road and watch for REI past Welch Road.

The REI store closes at 9 p.m. A climbing wall and shopping are available at the store before the meeting. If cavers want to get some climbing practice in, it's advisable to come around 5:30 p.m. The line forms quickly and early.

The REI store is the company's second largest in the country. REI stands for Recreational Equipment Inc. The Seattle-based cooperative sells climbing (and caving) hardware, rope and yes ... even carbide lamps.

The national retailer of outdoor gear and clothing for muscle-powered recreation employs several grotto members!

A prepared statement from the company says REI has supported outdoor conservation efforts since 1976. The company's corporate contributions program is designed to assist in the protection of public lands, rivers and trails nationwide. And REI takes an active role in the communities it serves with service projects for outdoor recreational opportunities.

CHAIRMAN David McClung (972) 594-1183

NSS# 29384RE

E-mail: cavers@gte.net

VICE-CHAIRPERSON Jerri Pearson (972) 843-8029

NSS# 43381RE

E-mail: pearsons@ix.netcom.com

SECRETARY Mike Pearson (972) 843-8029

NSS# 31572RE

22014 C.R. 850

Farmersville, TX 75442

EDITOR Mark Alman (972) 279-2386

NSS# 43400RE

3132 Emily Drive

Mesquite, TX 75150

            E-mail:   alman@bigfoot.com, cavers@msn.com, or dfwgrotto@geocities.com.
 
TREASURER Barbe Barker (972) 594-1183

NSS# 33397RE

E-mail: cavers@gte.net

LIBRARIAN & QUARTERMASTER Mark Alman 972-279-2386  See above address & email info.
 

The "Unofficial" DFW Grotto Homepage - (Mark's) - http://geocities.datacellar.net/Yosemite/Rapids/1854/ (you obviously found it!)

The "Official" DFW Grotto Homepage - (Mike's)

http://pw1.netcom.com/~pearsons/grotto.html#Table of Contents
 
 

Next Meeting

 
The meeting time and date is 7 p.m., March 25^th, 1998. The program description was unavailable at the time of this newsletter's mailing.

If you need carbide, contact Dave "Cave'' McClung at (214) 594-1183 and place your order for delivery at the meeting. Join us afterwards for the grotto social hour at a local eatery.

If you do not see a trip listed, but wish to participate, call some of the previous trip leaders to find out if a last minute trip is in the making. Many participants call trip leaders about possible upcoming trips; it is rarer to see trip leaders phoning potential participants.

It is a truism in the Dallas/Ft. Worth grotto that many trips are planned at the social hour at Taco Cabana after the meetings. Count on spending the hours from 9:00 to 11:00 hearing about previous trips and planning new ones.

Upcoming Events
 

— March —
 

28 March – Honey Creek. Contact Mark Minton at 512-847-7422. This is a fun and cool cave, but a wetsuit is a MUST, as well as vertical gear if you plan on being lowered down the shaft entrance. Otherwise, entry MAY be available via the creek entrance.

27-29 March – Amistad Cave Project, Del Rio, Texas. Friday night camping and meeting spot at San Pedro tent area. Contact Cathy Winfrey at 512-444-0170.

28 March – TSS Photo Workshop - Cave Without A Name. Contact Terry Holsinger @ 512-443-4241 or trhli@sprynet.com.

Agenda: 9 A.M. - Registration and visiting. Trip sign-up.

Terry Holsinger: Intro and overview to days' activities.

Review of necessary and best equipment.

Allan Cobb: Natural lighting and single flash photos.

Peter Sprouse: Multiple flash photos w/wo tripods.

Keith Heuss: Exposure control.

George Veni: Photographic cave documentation (scientific).

Pete Lindsley: How to take your camera caving. 35 mm to 4 X 5.

Hildreth-Werker and Jim Werker: Photomonitoring- photography

For cave restoration and management.

Bill Tucker: Underwater/extreme-wet cave photography.

Discussion.

12:00: Break for lunch and into caving teams & go caving!

 28 March - Mystic Cave Tunnel Dig. Contact Woodrow Thomas at 903-395-4431 before 9 PM or email him at wwthomas@technologist. com. A wetsuit is HIGHLY recommended. Be prepared to dig!

 --- April —
 

5-6 April -- Southwestern Regional, New Mexico. McKittrick Hill near Carlsbad. Contact: Belski (belski@caverns.com)

10-12 April -- Colorado Bend State Park Project. Contact Dale Barnard @ 512-452-5709 or e-mail: barnard@fc.net, Terry Holsinger @ 512-443-4241 or trhli@sprynet.com, or Butch Fralia @ 817-346-2039.

18 April - "Rites of Spring Party" - Somerville Co. Park. CR 1008 near Dinosaur Valley State Park.

24-26 April – TSA Convention - Blanco, TX. See article below.

24-26 April – Amistad Cave Project, Del Rio, Texas. Friday night camping and meeting spot at San Pedro tent area. Contact Cathy Winfrey at 512-444-0170.

— May —

8-10 May -- Colorado Bend State Park Project. Contact Dale Barnard @ 512-452-5709 or e-mail: barnard@fc.net, Terry Holsinger @ 512-443-4241 or trhli@sprynet.com, or Butch Fralia @ 817-346-2039.

8-10 May – GYPKAP-, New Mexico. Contact Joli or Chris Lee at 505-585-8406 or jclee@wazoo.com.

23-25 May – Carlsbad Cavern CRF *-, New Mexico. Barbe Barker (972) 594-1183 or e-mail: cavers@gte.net
 
 

— June —

27-28 June – GYPKAP-, New Mexico. Contact Joli or Chris Lee at 505-585-8406 or jclee@wazoo.com.

 — August —
 
3-7 August – NSS Convention -, Sewanee, Tennessee. Contact William Shrewsbury at 423-886-3296 or nss98@caves.org.

 
—September —

23-25 September – International Geological Correlation Program,

Project 379: "Karst Processes and the Global Carbon Cycle" -, Mammoth Cave, Kentucky. Contact Chris Groves at 502-745-5974 or email: chris.groves@wku.edu or Joe Meiman at 502-749-2508 or email: jbmeiman@scrtc.blue.net.

* CRF is the Cave Research Foundation. Contact the Project Manager/Director for more information about joining a CRF project.

Last Grotto Meeting Minutes

Current Grotto members and several other inactive members who managed to make the meeting called the meeting to order at 7:20 after a lot of banter and repartee. Quite a bit of dues was collected, but quite a bit still outstanding. Please get it turned in ASAP! New business include discussion of the "Rites of Spring" Party (see "Upcoming Events"), and discussion of the Newsletter. Everyone has been quite happy with new look of the newsletter and the job yours truly has been doing (Gracias, y'all!). Using envelopes to mail it out was discussed, but postage and costs would go up and content would go down. Costs of the Grotto banking account was discussed. Current monthly cost is $15. Suggestions? Trip reports were given for recent trips to CBSP, Carlsbad, Slaughter Canyon and Wen Caves. Old business included the Roadside Cleanup Project and Vertical Training. It was very well attended 3/21 and 3/22 at Jay's. Dave announced that we are able to obtain PMI climbing rope for a measly .33 a foot, but get your order in quickly! Contact Dave.

Tony Sultana was nominated for membership into the Grotto and was accepted. Way to go, Tony! Glad to have you aboard.

The Program was given by Woodrow Thomas and was called "Ruminations and Recollections" and consisted of intriguing trip flashbacks, slides, and trips down memory lane during his caving heydays in Kentucky. A very enjoyable program!

The meeting concluded at 8:55 upon which we descended upon Taco Cabana for Mexicali caliente and cerveza frio!

Activities and Projects

Honey Creek- Mark Minton, 512-847-7422.

Carlsbat Cavers- Phyllis Weston, (505) 887-6790 Restoration, Educational Programs, Off trail cave trips during busy holiday periods.

Carlsbad Caverns CRF - Contact Barbe Barker @ 972-594-1183 or e-mail: cavers@gte.net

Fitton Cave Survey- Pete Lindsley (972) 727-2497 or e-mail: lindsley@mcopn.dseg.ti.com

Madonna Survey Trips- Mike Huber (505) 887-6065

Mystic Cave Survey- Woodrow Thomas (903) 395-4431 before 9 PM or e-mail: wwthomas@tenet.edu

Government Canyon Karst Project - Dan Sharon (dansharon@prodigy.net) or

Butch Fralia (817) 346-2029

Rune Barnett (512) 444-1127

Keith Heuss (512) 280-2812

Terry Holsinger @ 512-443-4241, trhli@sprynet.com.

Dale Barnard email: barnard@flash.net

Powell's Cave Survey - Terry Holsinger (512) 443-4241 or trhli@sprynet.com.

Whirlpool and Lost Oasis (TCMA caves)- Contact Nico Hauwert (512) 282-8441

Robber Baron (TCMA cave)- Contact James Loftin (210) 731-9392

0-9 Well (TCMA cave)- Contact Walter Feaster (915) 559-3297

Amazing Maze (TCMA cave)- Contact Walter Feaster (915) 559-3297

New TSA Trips and Projects – Marneldo Ranch – Uvalde County

Stiver Ranch – Kimble County

Creek Ranch – Bandera County

Precipico – Bustamante, N.L.

Palmito Clean up - Bustamante, N.L.

 
TSA Convention Still Needs YOUR Inputs!

Submitted by: Jim Kennedy of the Texas Speleological Association

Don’t forget that the Convention is right around the corner! It will be April 24-26 at the Community Center in Blanco. Check out the February TSA Activities Newsletter for details. There are still openings for presentations on Saturday. Talks should be limited to twenty minutes, but special arrangements can be made with me for longer feature presentations. Talks can be accompanied

by slides. A projector will be available.

As yet we have no submissions of cave maps, slide, or photos for the

appropriate salons. This is a great way to show off your work and win prizes! If there are no submissions, there will be no salons, no prizes, and the quality of the Convention will be greatly reduced. Send all submissions to me.

Submissions will probably not be accepted during Convention, since we have to plan for judges and prizes in advance.

My address is: 3017-B Burleson Road

Austin, TX 78741-7218

Here’s the guidelines for the Map Salon, just extrapolate for the Photo

Salon and Slide Salon.: (Thanks to Brent Aulenbach, Chairman of the

SERA Map Salon this year.)

1) Anyone can enter. The map must be of a cave from Texas or

drafted by a Texas caver. A map that previously won an award at a

TSA map salon is ineligible unless there has been a significant addition

to the map.

2) Maps will be judged in categories which will be determined at

the salon based on the number of entries. There must be a minimum of

3 entries in order to make a category. Maps can only be in one category

except for Cartographer 0-2 years experience which will be judged

separately in addition to its other category. Possible categories

include:

Horizontal to 50' long.

Horizontal 50' - 500' long

Horizontal over 500' long

Vertical to 50' deep

Vertical over 50' deep

Multidrop

Electronically drafted

Cartographer 0-2 years experience

3) Awards will be given based on the following criteria:

Honorable mention for all maps which reach a certain level of

proficiency based on points.

First place for each category will be awarded for most number of points

in that category.

Best of show which will be determined by the judges. This will not be

determined solely upon point totals.

4) There will be three judges from across Texas if possible.

5) The salon is judged similarly to the NSS Convention Salon. In

the past, there have been several excellent maps which were missing

one or more of the essential elements which prevented them from

doing well in the salon. Therefore, I have included a general

guidelines that will be used in the judging for people to check their

maps beforehand:

Essential elements: (10 points each if on map)

Cave Name

Obvious entrance or connection (labeled)

North Arrow (Note magnetic or true)

Bar Scale

Date

Survey Methods

Cartographer or Survey Group

Techniques: (0 to 5 points each)

Drafting (technical quality)

Lettering

Detail Thoroughness

Vertical Control Quality

Site Details (surface, geology, etc.)

Legend or Symbols

Perks: (0 to 2 points each)

Balance and Layout

Visual Impact

Complex Representations

Innovations

So, get your maps finished up and see you there! If you have any

questions, please contact me.

Convention Reminder: Don’t forget your wallets! There will be several vendors at Convention, so this will be a great opportunity to replace old caving equipment, upgrade to better gear, and stock up on caving publications. I know that the TSS is reprinting the "Field Guide to the Caves of Kendall County" and "The Field Guide to the caves of Blanco, Gillespie, and Llano Counties", which will be available that weekend. They are also running a one-weekend-only special for cavers on "The Caves and Karst of Texas", the highly acclaimed guidebook from the 1994 NSS

Convention. That weekend only it will be only $15 (that’s right, only $15!). Get a few copies for Christmas presents, and get yourself a second copy to stay on your shelf, while your first one goes in the field with you.

News Flash!! There will be a TSA meeting at 6 PM on Saturday, well before the 7 PM banquet. There will be a TSA Rescue Committee meeting (and workshop?) Sunday morning at 9 AM.

Presenters, vendors, workshop coordinators, persons interested in judging

Salons, and groups wishing to schedule meetings should contact the Convention Chair, Jim Kennedy, at jkennedy@batcon.org, or phone at home at 512-443-8198 or work at 512-327-9721.

See you there!

• Jim "Crash" Kennedy

Vertical at Last, Vertical at Last, Thank Gawd Almighty, Etcetera!

Chimneyer's Delight - Colorado Bend State Park - January 1998

Submitted by: Laura Davis Goff - Maverick and DFW Grotto

Cavers: Laura Davis Goff, Ed Goff, Walter Pickett, and David Turner

I went to Colorado Bend intending just to hang out on top, read, relax, and listen to muffled voices floating up from underground. Somehow, though, I was convinced to go caving. Actually, I was feeling a slight twinge of jealousy, so it wasn't hard to twist my arm.

Knowing I might feel this way, I had brought my gear along. Ed used his GPS (with freshly downloaded coordinates, compliments of Butch) to locate Chimneyer's Delight. We got within a hundred feet or so, found the crack system, then scouted around for the tell-tale tree tag marking the entrance. Ed spotted the tag, and Walter busily set about rigging the rope, rescue-fanatic-style, while the rest of us struggled into our harnesses. (Those things are so flattering to the figure!)

The entrance is a long crack in the ground, from just a few inches up to three feet across. Walter rappelled first. I followed next, then Ed and David. The drop, about 35 feet, is so narrow that you can't turn your head much or see down to

what's coming next. I spotted a hibernating bat on the wall a few inches from my face. After the first ledge, there is a second pit about 15 feet deep. One wall of this drop was running with water, the other side dry. Besides being wet, the cave was as cold as it was on the surface (in the 40s). We looked around a bit to get our bearings. I found a gray, fuzzy carcass guarding one passageway, and there were plenty of crickets and even a few spiders.

Our orders were to resurvey the cave and add vertical profiles and cross-sections to the old data on file. The others continued this task while I looked around some more and tried to stay warm. I followed their slow progress, looking over Ed's shoulder while he sketched. The flowstone at the bottom of the second drop was interesting. It was off-white with black crackles throughout. It was pretty and reminded me of a piece of antique furniture.

We discovered another notable feature of this cave after a couple of hours of surveying our way down one narrow tunnel. The floor begins as rock and dirt, turns into gravel, and then gives way to a floor composed completely of little, dry, rimstone dams. It got prettier the farther we went. We hadn't gotten far into the rimstone area when we decided to call it a day.

After we marked the last station and crawled back to the pit, David quickly frogged out. Walter also ascended the bottom drop and then waited for Ed and me. Ed thought it would be easier for him to chimney this portion and, silly me, I thought I'd try it too. It was almost beyond my strength. Good thing Ed and I are married, because, after I accidentally kicked him in the head, I think he might have killed me if we weren't.

With his help from below and Walter's from above, I made it up. Then came the daunting task of ascending the first drop. Remember how narrow I told you that crack was? I was outfitted with a hand-me-down harness and imperfectly adjusted ascending gear. I struggled and panicked at times. At one point I thought I was wedged in forever and they'd have to lower down sandwiches and coffee until I died, but Ed and Walter encouraged and directed from below until I was a few feet from the top. I was fighting the lip, which I'd been told is always the hardest part, when David offered me a hand, literally. I grabbed it, promptly lost both footholds, and dangled, fearing dislocation of my shoulder. He let me go and I struggled some more. This seemed to go on for hours, although it was only a few minutes. Finally I turned my head and right behind me was the perfect little ledge on which I stepped up and was free of the cave.

It was difficult, but satisfying. After all, things that come too easily aren't always worth much. It certainly wasn't quite the same experience as climbing a rope hanging from a tree. I am glad that I've finally been initiated, and this tight chimney was probably among the more difficult scenarios in which I might find myself. So I won't hesitate to try more vertical trips in the future for lack of any real experience.

If anyone reading this hasn't tried it yet, I recommend jumping into this vertical-caving thing. You shouldn't let a silly little pit keep you from exploring a beautiful cave.

 
Andrew Alman's Cave Cleanup Eagle Project

Icebox Cave - CBSP February 13^th-15^th 1998.

Submitted by: Mark Alman - DFW Grotto and TSA

Personnel: Dale Barnard, Chris Heuss, Mark Alman, Andrew Alman,

David Kirk, Dusty Wood, Chris Haas, Richard Haas, Matt

Sanders, Chris Gandy, Robert Swanner, and Matt Patrick.

Andrew has only been planning this since last August, but due to complications from bad air and other activities that prevented us from making the CBSP/TSA weekends, we finally made it down last month. Maybe the departure date of Friday the 13^th should have told us something. Read on, oh gentle caver …

The ten of us departed Mesquite Friday night and arrived at the Cavers' campsite at about 11 PM. After stumbling around looking for flashlights (cavers without flashlights?!) we got camp set up, met with Dale and Terry, and then hit the ol' fart sack!

We awoke to a misty, drizzly morning that would only proceed to get worse as the day wore on.

Chris Gandy deep in the bowels of Icebox Cave. Photo by Mark Alman.
 

We departed for Icebox and arrived at the cave at approx. 10 AM to begin Andrew Alman's Eagle Project for the Boy Scouts. Several other boys from Troop 138 in Mesquite were in attendance to help out. Well looked over the area to decide the best way to rig the cable ladders and bucket transport system. The boys set up the work zone to keep non-working people out of the immediate area. I rigged up for the drop to be the first one in to check the air periodically during the descent. Dale was on belay. Air was great at all levels and after approx. 30' reached the bottom. Noticed three bats in the large room at the bottom, which we did our best not to disturb.

Dale then came down, followed by Andrew, Matt Sanders, and Richard Haas. Chris Haas videotaped quite a bit and later helped navigate the bucket line to clear the first tight squeeze on the way to the top.

(Left: Robert Swanner - Troop 138. Right: Dale Barnard and Chris Heuss-TSA)

 
Chris Heuss belayed everyone down while Dale was down below. We

sent 2-3 buckets up initially with a lot of "glassy-dirt" inside. Matt Sanders and

Andrew then began on two trash-filled tunnels, which they cleaned out 4-5 buckets of trash. These tunnels are now open and may be able to be pushed for quite a ways. One extends 20+ feet. Robert Swanner cleaned out an area to the right as you enter the large room at the bottom near the large flowstone in the center of the cave. This area could be pushed another 10' and possibly further, but will require digging.

Richard Haas, Matt Patrick, and Chris Gandy helped Mark excavate three areas and we were able to remove most of the "glassy dirt" we found. Approx. 4 buckets of this dirt was removed. We were also able to do some videotaping down below and got off quite a few pictures that will be seen in the "OZTOTL Caver" and will also be sent to Terry for the "Texas Caver's" use and for Andrew's and the Scout Troop's posterity.

It misted periodically thru the AM, but began to pick up after 1-1:30. Work continued until about 2 PM. Everyone came up out of the cave for a lunch break and Mark sent up the last bucket of glassy-dirt. During lunch, the rain picked up and we all decided to declare Icebox clean and to conclude the project for the day. Matt Sanders volunteered to go back down to retrieve Mark's camcorder, camera, shovels, buckets, and whatnot before we left. We ended up with 7 HEAVY bags of trash and glassy-dirt. We also performed a trash pickup around the cave and surrounding area.

Dale then showed us a cave nearby that had/was likewise been trashed as Icebox and definitely could use a cleanup. Chris Gandy and Robert Swanner indicated that they would also like to do their Eagle Project down at CBSP and perform a cave cleanup. More future volunteers it would appear.

We then checked out Gorman Falls while in the neighborhood and noticed that David's front left tire appeared low. Decided to definitely watch and air up in Lampasas. Saw the wreck of the car that Chris Heuss told us about having descended over the top of Gorman Falls.

   (Trashpile near another future cleanup project. Any takers? New Orleans Cave.  Photo by Mark Alman)
 

Upon arriving back at camp, discovered that Chris Gandy had severely pinched his finger in Mark's truck when the topper window shut while trying to navigate the mudholes in a furious fashion in order to avoid getting stuck. Ice water and aspirin appeared to do the trick. Thumb OK.

Also discovered back at camp that the cave was dryer than our tents, especially the four man one we were using. Water standing inside and gear all wet. Decided to skip Gorman Cave and head back to Mesquite. Made it back about midnight and the boys crashed at the Alman's house. Even after a full day's work, they managed to stay up until about 4 AM and ate up a lot of the food we didn't eat at CBSP.

The boys still enjoyed the trip and the type of work and REALLY want to come back. Possibly on Earth Day.

Dale and Terry, thanks for all of your help and support for Andrew and I will do what I can to generate more interest in the project down there, both in the Scout Troop and in the DFW Grotto.

See y'all next time!

Grotto Dues are Due NOW!! Only $10.