Freak-Out Times
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This is Pretty Morbid Stuff, it involves Reality!
Assault on The Scooter and I
Mar 20, 1998 5:34:05 PM
AFFIDAVIT
1] I would like the 'penalty for perjury' to be exercised to the maximum in this case to eliminate misinformations and allegations leading to extensive waste to my and the peoples time and money.
2] This has been a event especially in months of Feb./March...and I wasn't going to let this incident go by again!
3] Previously, before this March/06/1998 incident, the upstairs neighbor of my residence [ Phoenix ] apartments saw and identified to me a similar Gray Van and group as in this incident,.. whereas the Gray Van , stopped and an individual ran to the Motor/Scooter and Knocked it down....and ran back to the Van...no further description was given to me.
4] There have been numerous dog teeth marks on Plastic Cover of my Motor Scooter Chain in the last 2 months, and the Defendants Rottweiler dog is the only suspect....to that, concluding that the defendant seems to have a fixation on the destruction of things that he can't have... I presume this to be a Jealous Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, that he can't control.
5] It is my consensus that the Defendant was the instigator in suggesting something like 'Let's Knock Over The Scooter'......to the much younger driver of the Van License EMN261, who certainly wasn't the brightest ball on the block!
On March/06/1998, I heard a heavy 'Thud' and the 'Alarm' on my Scooter, outside of my suite window. I opened the window to see a Black, 6-8 passenger Jeep/Van backing up from my overturned Motor/Scooter.
By the time I could get a Camera charged for pictures the assailants where out of their Van... and later some were trying to reset the scooter on the Stand.
I flashed a couple of fotos to get some concrete info on this recurring event,...letting the assailants know that they were caught red-handed in the act of a Hit and Run incident.
Some of the assailants kicked my sidewalk level window, and I went out to take pictures of My Damaged Motor Scooter.
The 4 of 5 assailants swarmed around me like flies, yelling obscenities and saying things like " I wasn't parked Right " " They're Brakes slipped "...... " I had no right to park there ".... whereas legally it's the other way around.
The Long Yellow Haired Bearded Van Driver kept on shouting...... 'out of the blue' that " He Fucked Rats like me in The Pen ",[ his main fixation over and over ], mouthing off to the the limits of his 5 teammates support......then he kicked over my 290lb M/Scooter which was improperly RE-parked by the defendant and his vandals earlier.......
I took the drivers picture, and then the defendant 'putting away his mug of beer', started to grapple my camera and tried to choke me, while the 2 others shoved and pushed me antagonistically.
With my Camera and the Defendant on one hand, and giving me no choice in lieu to his berserk aggressiveness,.... I dropped the defendant to the pavement while the Van Driver scrapped and pushed my Glasses off, later stomped them to bits.
The other long haired pony tailed guy grappled me as well and kicked me in the ribs, while the Defendant gained some grounds with his choke hold and his relentless grasp on my Camera...he had a psychopathic look in his eyes.
As I feared for my life, I made a drastic move away from the defendant, and his 2 active 'helpers'... I threw the camera on the lawn and told my neighbor 'Mr. Whylley' here to get it in the house.
While 2 assailants kept me busy, the defendant 'or other' kicked the incriminating camera and my neighbor 'Bob Whilley' grabbed it while the defendant chased him up the stairs....the defendant repeatedly kicked the door of my residence to gain access within.
I broke loose from the 2 assailants only to find the defendant at the top of my stairs, lunging down at me and applying a choke hold to my already torn collar interlaced with a chain pendant.
I got around the berserk defendant and while he dangled from my neck for about 4-5 minutes, ...he threw 3 punches which seemed to light up his eyes in a weird maniacal triumphant glory and satisfaction!
I never returned the punches, because of the 5 backups he had and the possible chance of their lying to the courts to overturn this case to a 'my fault' provocation issue, or something absolutely incredulous as such..I wasn't taking any chances on that situation.
At 10:00pm I and others called 911, 3 times to get a reaction on paper after almost 50 of these types of incidents and explained my situation to the 2 Officers, J. Praso...... and they applied proper procedures in this matter! I gave the film containing the 10 pictures to the officers to eliminate extra credibility trials..as such possibilities of tampering by myself and such!
PS:
I feared for my life, by going out against 5 of them, on that evening, with an obvious 50% chance of not coming back, alive. My losses here, were minimal, Scooter, Glasses, Camera, Bruises, about, $2,000cdn!
This was the 3rd time this month, they vandalized my property, I was getting "annoyed" since I just had to stand for my rights, nobody else is ever going to do that!
I think a lot of people would have done something else, but that idea was just a very faint flicker in my mind!
Afterwards Nothing much, was ever Done by Det. S. Dr....of this Incident, because of some legal crown Prosecutor technicality, that the whole gang would have to be arrested, and not individuals. The Vandals Harassed me for awhile after, but nothing too deadly came of it, I mean, who gives a shit...heh!
:Some pics of the Vandals During the Assault:
ED NELSON....Relentless Vandal
Gary Vandal..Camera Shy Guy with the mouth..
Ruger MKII, No trigger Guard for Quick Draw Range Events!
World Class, looks like a Nobel PEACE Prize Doesn't it!
NOTE:
Government=Mostly Dissident <Firearms> related Pro/Antagonists!
She=An accusing, mentally defective and disturbed power-center!
This Document Might Somewhat Crucify me as well!
I realize, it is best to dummy the squawkies, rather than leak out information to the prosecutor, but this new concept, seems to deserve some concern in defiance of power centered draconian groups.
Dumb Insolence and the 5th are not considered an honest action, to me, therefore are an admission of guilt, although it is sometimes necessary and is usually a waste of the peoples time and moneys!
Another Real Ugly Trip Involving The Bill C68/17 Trip, as I have always maintained it was a matter of time and insignificant negligence, having an almost such relevant web-site like mine, would just bring the "heat" down on me!
[This is another underhanded dirty trick, for the kinky wanna-be verifiers, to avoid coughing-up a regular C-245 (Probable Cause)
search warrant...."As Was Proven in Court" in the Nazis' progressive Target Firearms Confiscations]
*March/03-08-2001ad
Twice today, because of some trumped allegations of a "Nutbar" accusing me of threatening her in a non-existent e-mail...."This letter was not ever produced". Aux lieu, right out of the blue, a handwritten [note] held by a weird group of "Seemingly Drunken", Arrogant, Power Centered "Psychiatric Evaluation Team" with a no-cause, no-doctor, no-reason, no-business invasion, "was their invalid evidence of a wrongful accusation," which was also probably, unknowing to the Puppet Psyche Evaluators. "This, non-sentiently to them, was a degrading, humiliating, insult, to me, as an event"!
I was not, allowed to photocopy this note, I would suppose, probably, since it was a hearsay and hand written verbal allegation...but still, to copy this note, what kinda secret is that, I wanted evidence, not bull-shit. They even asked me if I had "Magical Powers", I mean, what planet are these guys from, as they try to stonewall me for some law of millions, that I may, or may not have innocently infringed.?
It was rather humiliating though and unnerving with some undercover cop holding a gun at my back for the 45 minute inquisition, imagine someone totalitarian and dangerous enough to classify U "at a personal whim" as a paranoid schizophrenic, or some psychopathic variant and all your hard earned Assets, Life, Property, Status, Integrity, would be forfeit, as they have done to other anti-nazis as well! These Lock-em-Up fill them full of pills, declare them "Insane", and forfeit the poor souls "I.E.: John Ford, Preston Nichols, Mr.Coffee, etc." property is an old Buckingham power much used by Governments since minister of propaganda Adolph/Ghoering, and other nazi types. I personally think, that they should get help, maybe by pressing F1 on their little dictator keyboards!
All that, was happening simultaneously, while the , 2 dolled-up cops, "who should be on a Cat Walk", "or at least I think they should be", were rummaging through my personal Target Firearm stuff , I found all of this blitzkrieg brainstorm tactic, quite collectively ignorant and traumatic to me!
This instigator, does not have an e-mail address , as far as I know of any sort, shall I say, "they are different" from us Computer Literate Slaves. Furthermore, She tried to convince hoards of people, like my building managers, the no-cause, no-doctor, no-reason Confrontational Psychiatric Evaluation Team, her hopefully competent Supervisor, the VPD Police, and God knows who else. By using trumped allegations they tried to maintain, that I was mentally incompetent and other, and that I should possibly be evicted, and institutionalized...they persisted antagonistically, with a relentless belligerent undying vendetta, without even knowing who I really am!
This is a very classic, standard Charter95 "mafia" of organized Power Centered incompetents using "legal" techniques to suppress the remaining freedoms of the real peoples rights!
This slight flame e-mail, was sent to her against some author's wishes, somehow making me the framed target of a mass coupe d'etat of hoards of incompetent investigators. Maybe she was insulted, maybe stupid, maybe just spiteful, in any event, the e-mail should have been sent to abuse@*.ca, or other, for all it was all worth.
Some people think they own the whole world, and call the cops at every whim, these non-taxpayer types, should be paying the cops out of their own pockets, for this "Specialized" Service...known as "911 Abuse". This is punishable by any crime in progress on the event of the call, homicides, rapes, etc.!
I am surrounded in an area of at least 300 known criminals, and I DON'T associate with them, nor do they even know me, and they have never known that I had a Target Firearm obviously, yet ONLY the police officers seem a bother to me, like, removing my ultra-registered Target Firearms and Licenses/Permits.
That's police harassment, founded by a group of supposed paranoid schizophrenics allegations and misconstrusions. that I can prove. I find it somewhat unnerving, and degrading to have Wall to Wall cops at my place, I mean, do I go to their places and Interrogate them, maybe I'll do that someday, and make a section 28/86(2) citizens arrest and see how the capos' like it!
What is to be unproved here, am I defensive or informed? I suppose the scoop, might be sanctioned, since the case was probably unlocked, because I was photographing my personal properties, and I did not say there was a round inside the Ruger, as the PCs wrote, how could there be, there wasn't, what kind'a nutbar would even suggest that!
The pc, went through all my ownership, registration, Canadian Firearms Safety Course/Test, Prohibited Firearm Status Qualifications, and other papers, with all Photocopies as well, and quickly hauled-off my Target Firearms, and locked carrying case...illegally leaving the documents like a bunch of burn artists!
On their tromped allegations, they [seized my LLama and Ruger pistols], saying that a locked case was not sufficient, but they needed a trigger lock as well, in my 8 Audio Video Surveillance Systems Cameras, 3 Heat Motion Detectors and 4 locked Doors of a Hidden Industrial Multi Bolt-Lock Storage Room, which I live in, like some kinda SOHO hermit! These are more "slight" oversights from C68/17 laws as far as individual applications are concerned! This place is recognized as a part#3 alternative option to trigger locks where not applicable, of the 82(2) considerations, at the very least!
They seemed a little hasty about the Reference Subsections 86(2) reg.109 117h of Part III, of the Criminal Code C68/17 legal procedures and laws, concerning a possible search and seizure they acquired, saying that I had to give up the Target Firearms to be tagged, till I get a trigger lock for each, and get information through the Canada Evidence Act, ......After 10 days, they ignorantly reneged awesomely on that option as well!
As a rhetoric drift, from today's draconian dictators, I remember when it was fine to carry them that way to the range for the Competition Shoots, way back when, like, 16 years ago...but that was then wasn't it...as 17million people will say, things used to make some sense, then!
To boot, I got a strange restraining order from e-mailing or contacting a "individual" that doesn't even have an e-mail address,....that should be an easy one to comply with. I never wrote this person, or her immediate supervisor anything, ever....That I swear!
As a conjecture, of what I possibly might know from what was described to me, about such an implied letter, which might have been mailed on the fly, from a different POP3 Header than mine, because I keep a backup of all correspondences I make, but not this, whatever, not found anywhere, on the net.
This may have been a IMOHO, a suggestion comment buffer to some upper agency as a character reference only, not even meant to be heard by her, or anyone for all I would care, but rather an experienced on-hand evaluation and admission of pure fact and truth as far as I would know.
Though I do rue the day, someone might have even filled the IMOHO comments buffer as a concerned citizen, I personally, shouldn't associate with this particular local <draconian> organization again, and she doesn't want me either, I have tried to sever ties with this agency for a long time, but seem to always get dragged down, by weird natural pitfalls!
She will no doubt continue harassing me in this undiplomatic manner of hidden vexations on a personal issue, of what was not even considered as Flame Mail to anyone, by all Netiquette Standards, welcome to the real net-world whoever U are >:)!
If someone wanted anonymity, it's real easy, I have had my own NYM "foto@anon.efga.org, foto@weasel.owl.de, foto@nym.alias.net," etc. servers, and there is ample software, and encrypted re-routing services, to send anonymous information, even kinkier than Garbo in his time, or the infamous now retired "Nom de Plume" Saltine or Pepper!
This sort of admission, of 'coping a plea' to some kind'a weird event, is provided to the court registrar to use. For what this Mountain out of a molehill is concerned, and what it COST ME, [not she or C68/17] WAY TOO DEARLY.. I suppose legal/lawyer/5 long years of courts and fees with my time and efforts, are a some kind'a "nutbar" intelligent administration too heh!
Upon having received my Particulars, at the Court 1st Appearance, I got the hard copy, copy of the letter, I was supposed to have sent...It was somewhat disjointed and rather precise, probably due to someone overworked, and not too concerned if it was read or deleted by anyone, I would be quite red-faced about the structure. It also was not directed to "she" at all as somewhat noted per crown particulars, but power trippers do like to try to get you on something,..... don't they?
For all these uttering death threats in verbal or other, I may look at a pack of cigarettes, and see the Bold faced Warning, [smoking can kill you] hell that's a death treat too heh, by the squeamish standards of the proletariats here.
Lately the bible belt brigade, have been looking at these e-mail situations with a very, obviously insane perspective. Situations as, not too far from the getting arrested for pointing a finger at someone scenarios! Yes these irrational ninnies, do take some of these trifle matters a bit far, and if some terrorist group takes their lives and/or property, I'm sure, they can apply these wacky laws then too!
I have received Direct life Threatening Flame Mail from Khmer Rouge and other dissidents, whereas she received absolutely nothing at all from me!
The accusing individual did not remember, a conversation we had last year, while I was discussing the Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course/Test with her, and I mentioned to her that it was a real bizarre and tricky course/test, She replied "well it's all a matter of incidence, and that, anybody can cack a hammer...like a heard of buffaloes over.........." She also showed a slight marked resentment towards my having a web site, and jealousy of my being allowed to own a Target Pistol......
In other words, her only incompetent EGO, and just that, was put to harm....this Kiss Butt, and Brown Nose Agency is sometimes intolerable!
On the Crown Particulars she stated that she had been threatened numerous times in the last 30 years, before, but dismissed them, but did not dismiss "me" because my site had some gun links to the <Gov't> License renu Site. She also Accused me of discussing Child Porn on my site, yes, right here, for all to see, well get real heh, what kind'a poop is that too?
I didn't think this broomhilda, could be moved by any sort instance..to speak to her in person. Anyway, a team of "heavy avengers" was convened on this note, the team left, another team returned, and another later!
Now it's a fight uphill all over again....I hope this doesn't lead to something too ugly.."it has"....and all that time and the peoples moneys, they could have spent trying to catch the knife-armed Masked Crack-head at the International Hotel, down the street from here, the people always shooting up in my alley, and all over the place, the downtown main drag seems to be exclusively habited by druggies, mostly crackys.
Obviously, this Registered Target Firearm snatch scene was easier, I quess, anything to keep the courts hoping for nothing.
Bill-C17/68 Firearms laws, have become nothing but a Police/Citizen big time antagonistic nightmare, thanks the improper execution and dispatchment of the bill, by a some weird people playing god!
Since my Target Firearm "possibly a psychological security blanket" confiscation, it reminds me of the solo I did with RCMP's/SpamBusters
[http://www.superhighway.is/iis/payperv4.htm]
and Sent 419 a "plimoman", maybe temporarily crippling Yerimah Abubakhar's [419] computer systems, they only stopped responding at this point..so if I see some Lagos Nigerians in a Lexus, they only drive Lexus, shit I'm dead right now...they'll just burn me like they do on Honey Street L. Nigeria, and yes they have been Calling me from Nova Scotia/Murriat CA, and Unlisted locals,...
Since my Target Firearm "possibly a psychological security blanket" confiscation, it reminds me of how I also was instrumental in cracking some very decedent gangsters, that had to be curbed..they didn't like that too much, neither did I, While Robbing me in a back alley, they threatened to put a bullet in my back, if I went to the Officers, I did anyway Det. Bat...., wrote the leader a letter, that's all, and even after 24 years, who knows? The Gang, although supposed disbanded, since the 2 original female members quit, because of their enlightenment of the street Gang's aggressive aspects.
Where's Frank Serpico with rational enforcement concepts, Yep, still teaching the value of Honor and these Payola/Take Concepts, to police officers, and the philosophic ramifications of crossing the thin red/blue line. I hope he doesn't get the other side of his face shot off by that paid coconut/crackhead, while Frank's undercover partner watched in glee, things have been going pretty much downhill here too!
Remember the W.W.II Furer "Hosskam/Mein Kempf", Vietnam's Viet-Cong "Hanoi" Jane Fonda, Cambodia's Pol Pot "Khmer Rouge" some adopted in the RCAF, Dalai Lama Tenzin Gyatso 's Tibet and "China 97/Black Sun" appropriations, ALL where started with a Bill C68/17 legislation type of home, country invasion attitude. I hope nothing like that happens in Ca-nada, but Remember "A land where only the police and military have guns is called nothing but a Police State", do we have a Democracy....You Gotta be Joking!"
*March/03-18-2001ad......more antagonism
Well to add, Today, March 18, 2001, the PCs came back with a arrest warrant which was back-dated for March 08, 2001, instead of March 18, 2001...after they seized my properties. My firearm Permits/Registrations, my very expensive and extremely hard earned Canadian Restricted/Prohibited Firearms Safety Course/Test Papers, many older and varied carry/convey Permits, my 6 Months old Miramichi 2001 Interim Permit, including an old wimpy unloaded co2 bb pistol, with, like 1 ft/lb. torque, not the 12 ft/lb. restricted stuff/500+FPS new limits .
They said the Walther PPK co2 bb firearm looked too real for them, Well I guess it does! They left my Competition Shooting Trophy on the Wall, they must'a overlooked it!
This all looks really like something quite related to Lindsay Higgins, Moncton (Via e-mail) later mentioned below,....
I was taken from my home, cuffed, morandized and arrested, skin frisked and all, then held in a friggin cage all day...treated like a street scum criminal, It was very humiliating to be treated like a street scuzz bag after my 53 born years of walking the Dharmic path of hell...
Then I got a J.P. Bond Posted and a trial Date Set for March 27, 2001....whereas I can really get things done in 10 Days, yeah Right, real slick....
Charge was improper storage of firearms, and all my licenses and permits were seized... all those years of work, like, gone w/o trial/hearing/warning...That in itself is an overruling of the prohibition vexation complaint, statutes, of Bill C-245 par. 139 117.04(2) which doers not require a "prohibition" type hearing, with a 30 Day, of "found guilty appeal" at the initial hearing, with the option to sell the firearms.
*March 27, 2001ad....legal papers
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Crown Recommendations:
1] Suspended Sentence
2] Firearms Prohibition and Forfeiture Order
There goes 16 years of work Licensings, Permits, Tests, and Responsibilities...OH well...!
3] No kind of Contact with a certain "nutbar"...no problem there!
*April 03, 2001ad
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I can't believe all these allegations are being put forth to me, especially in such a manner, because this event was never meant to happen, in an Orderly Logical Environment, of which bill C68/17 and and reference subsections 86(2), 86(3) seem to defy in all orders!
As this reference subsections 86(2), 86(3) is just going to open "Everyone's Closet", no matter who you are! Leaving much to be desired of the Charter of Rights and Privacy Acts, and 99% of us honest "MYOB" legal firearms citizens!To Boot, this C68/17, has been deemed to be still incomplete by the year 2083ad, according to recent stats, and calculations. That's a lot of time and money, to feed someone's immature ambitious desires to a proven totally worthless cause!
The Z/Z Appendage to this Bill, is Being Righteously Investigated:
Subject: Zearch & Zeizure Bill being debated Friday May 4th
Leon Benoit's Private Members Bill C-245 will be debated at 1:30 PM
(EDT) on Friday, May 4th
First Session, Thirty-seventh Parliament, 49-50 Elizabeth II, 2001HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
BILL C-245
An Act to amend the Criminal Code (search and seizure without warrant) First reading, February 7, 2001
SUMMARY
This enactment affects Part III of the Criminal Code as enacted by section 139 of the Firearms Act. The purpose is to remove the power in subsection 117.04(2) to enter to search and seize without a warrant in cases where no offense has been committed or is suspected to have been committed.Provision is made for restitution for loss or damage resulting from the entry and search taking into account whether the loss or damage was reasonably necessary in light of the evidence collected and in light of the behavior of the persons on the premises at the time. In addition, several amendments are made consequential to the repeal of subsection 117.04(2) to remove references to it.
http://www.parl.gc.ca/37/1/parlbus/chambus/house/bills/private/C-245/C-245_1/C-245_cover-E.html
Non Reference Statute:
Other Concerns and Opinions, can be found Here!
See Reference Justification Table:
http://www.cila.org/Press_releases/PR21-US_suspends_imports.htm
http://geocities.datacellar.net/TheTropics/6330/Cambodia.html
http://www.angelfire.com/mb/ca/
http://www.iansa.org/news/2001/apr_01/cam_small.htm
http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcInfoBase.asp?CatID=81
"When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will
have guns."
OK, let's talk about these Target Firearm Locks:Statute:
February 8, 2001
Locks Issued by Gun Group Are Being Recalled
By THE NEW YORK TIMES
WASHINGTON, Feb. 7 - The Consumer Product Safety Commission announced a recall of 400,000 gun locks today after a government study found that they could be easily opened without a key.All the locks were distributed by the National Shooting Sports Foundation, a trade association for gun makers, which is offering to replace them with a more reliable model free of charge.
The recall follows the commission's review of 32 models of gun locks, including the one distributed by the sports foundation. The review found that all but two models could be opened with a paper clip, tweezers, a hammer or wire cutters, or by striking them against a table.
"That's not the kind of deterrence we can count on," said Ann W. Brown, commission chairwoman. "What we found was frightening."The sports foundation and the lock's manufacturer, Adstar Inc. of Merrick, N.Y., said they knew of no case in which problems with their locks had allowed unauthorized access to guns. But Bill Brassard, a spokesman for the trade group, said it had conducted its own study of the locks and had found that they did open too easily.
The sports foundation began issuing the locks in September 1999, through a program called Project Homesafe, which teaches gun users how to handle and store guns safely and provides free gun locks in cooperation with police departments around the country. The group suspended the distribution last October, after complaints from police officers that the locks could be opened without a key. The effort resumed today, after the group worked with Adstar to develop a stronger model.
Owners of the old locks can call 800-726-6444 to get new ones, the foundation said. The recalled locks look like bicycle cable locks, Mr. Brassard said. They have red cables and padlocks, and the words "Project Homesafe."
Russ Rader, a spokesman for the commission, said the recall involved only the locks from the shooting foundation because most of the other models that failed the testing could not be identified.
"They don't have brand names," Mr. Rader said. "That's why we are seeking a safety standard for all gun locks."
Mr. Brassard said the trade group supported establishing a single standard, "as long as we have input."
President Bush has advocated giving free locks to gun owners in a five- year, $375 million program. And Representative Eliot L. Engel, Democrat of New York, introduced legislation today that would instruct the commission to set a standard for all child safety devices on firearms.
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Paul Chicoine
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Much more important: <governments> with such wide powers that they were able successfully to enforce "gun control" committed mass murders of tens of millions. Between 1929 and 1953 in the ex-Soviet Union, 20,000,000 were murdered by Stalin's forces. The Nazis murdered some 13 million persons, including 6 million Jews. JPFO's published research shows that "gun control" laws cleared the way for seven major genocides between 1915 and 1980, in which 56 million persons, including millions of children, were murdered.As far as the Big Picture Goes, this Bill C68/17 is doing one thing....Disarming the Legal Registered Target Firearms Owners, leaving the Criminals to Arm themselves With No Problem, and laughing us Legal Registered Target Firearms Owners off the face of the earth, along with the police.
Remember Kim Campbell's Bill C17? Bill C68/17 is the penultimate move of that campaign. The last will be to legislate the confiscation of all privately owned firearms in Canada. The provisions of Bill C68/17 (registration) can and will be used by the Grits, if they are in power, to achieve this. It has been said that a disarmed nation is a slave nation.
What must be done to prevent that happening here is quite obvious.While there is a fear that registration will eventually lead to confiscation, a more immediate concern is that the criminal element will succeed in gaining access to the information.
The recent arrest and conviction of a Montreal police officer and his ex-partner for selling confidential police files to criminal gangs is a prime example of such occurrences.
Switzerland is safe, with their extremely low crime rate because each household is compulsory armed. Meaning that a Home Armed Switzerland policy, is much better than Ca-nada's C68/17 approach. As a matter of fact, the concepts are a complete reversal, but far as crime control goes the Swiss are winning by an awesome margin......Gutten Da!
This Bill C68/17 is Based on U.N./IANSA [International Action Network on Small Arms] forces, and if IANSA/U.N. is dead-set on disarming the legal public, it brings me to mind, amongst other things, why they would even think, a 22 Ruger pistol is going to do to impede an offensive IA.N.S.A./U.N. Tank, the F.F.L., and British armies, and why should it, I thought General Guillaume, FFL, was smarter than that!
What is their problem, territorial conquests for World Peace, followed by military sanctioned disarmament's, home invasions. We're looking at "Mein Kempf" Martial Law all over again, hell my home was invaded by the local police 4 times this week, over what should be considered, absolutely nothing in a sane world....
The way I always figured, as in Conscriptions, Drafts, Freedom Fighters, and others, the best and cheapest Armies, are the peoples themselves, as is the general consensus throughout the planet....so what is going on here...Some weird Dictators Little Ego trip somewhere?
Other References:http://www.gunsandammomag.com/dynamic.asp?intSectionID=210&intArticleID=1423
Least We Forget:
Remember recently, those 2 Carpenter kids who where mercilessly pitch forked/mutilated to death, by some psychopath, they only died because the 3rd young lady shooter, could not get the locked safe opened, otherwise the two kids would be alive and well today, and their parents, much happier.After scurrying to a neighbor, she finally got the police to come, and the psychopath was eventually shot to death!
But Bill C68/17 Safe Storage Laws, Killed the Kids, in cold blood and agony. She could have killed the Psychopathic homicidal idiot, without having to risk his escape.
It is hard to believe that All Anti-Gun Legislators Happily Sanctioned this Homicide, but they DID, and nobody can deny that fact! If you think you can argue this fact, please look in the mirror, and tell it to the judge!
There are more of these incidents, as in cabinet secrecies, that have not been aired yet, because of Gov't deceptions relating to Bill C68/17..etc. Safe Storage Laws!
What does this Bill C68/17 think I am, a piece of shit...well I don't think I am! Maybe this World Peace umbrella of the NWOrder is just a little too obvious, and should not be muffled in <Government> Secret Bureaucracy!Well I can't really figure it all out , yet, maybe people are really just afraid, of guns, well guns can freak me out too, especially other shooters that have pointed at my heart so often, well anyway, those days of ineptness are gone, and without any added firearms laws, since 1980?
Maybe because, most people can't even handle a real Firearm yet, so they make laws for gun users/owners, to bring them down to their pathetic gentile status. The truth hurts, heh, well don't worry, I been there too, though ages ago!
I don't believe in Long Guns in a City Environment, Snipers are not too cool are they! For those who don't realize it, handguns don't shoot too straight or far, compared to Long guns. I don't hunt, I don't harm any of God's creatures, except I suppose, to protect myself from the antagonistic aggressive violent ones!I just want to put marked precision holes in little targets at the shooting range, it's a minor OCD, but, now I can't even do that, Sheesh, they shut most of the Ranges Down under totally ludicrous allegations, Why???
I wrote the City Council, about this strange Range Shut-Down situation, and even mentioned that, for some, the shooting will hit the streets, "Some people have a Trigger Finger OCD" later, an H.A. got shot and a big cop and many more homicidal situations followed, maybe it's what they want, ...just like in the movies, instead of the ranges???
Welcome to another Harsh Realm of planned obsolescence, ot the Theater of the Absurd.... It's some kinda weird scary nightmare, that most sane humans, like us "Legal Licensed Target Firearms owners" for instance don't ever want to continually experience, that's for sure!
What life has a child, without the nostalgic serotonin state of mind of the "Daisy Red Rider" rifle or a cute BB Target Firearm, if they want, or Someone wants to conquer their fear of handling firearms and shooting, only you can find your weaknesses as a person you think you are.
I think it was a "million years" ago that these concepts were introduced to me, a very different Serotonin chemical mindset, now kids want to carry firearms around, without knowing or caring jack squat of how they function, or the craftsmanship or history involved.
Who may care of their loveless situation, since they have been mostly accidentally mind controlled, some to an oblivious state of hopelessness, oblivion, probably, by poor parenting, and secret unmentionables here!
Firearms are stupid, and dumb, but I dare any genius to even build a fine one, so they must be something worth really considering. Target Firearms to me, are something to disassemble, a few times, hone and tune, shoot accurately, then see if I really accomplished even that much. To me it's a challenge to my integrity as who I think I am...though this is not a pleasant event by any measure!
Well some people like Gamblers, hi-classed dopers, have a "Kink", the <Government> is spending Billions on dopers, concerning Dolophine/Methadone, Shelters, Hype Shooting Galleries, fancy jails, and is babying these street druggies, in most cases, not correcting/educating/training them, at the expense of other more deserving ones, who might need and deserve the moneys and attention more?
Well anyway, why can't they apply this weird wacko financial concept to Target Firearms enthusiast people, instead of "shutting down ranges all over, at the peoples hi-costs" and see what happens, or is all the ignorant firearm, bombardment, Flack, Gun Violence, on TV/Media supposed to be telling us something otherwise, for the last 60 years!
According to Bill C68/17, Even Officers and All, are required by Law, to put their trigger locks on the their firearms when they are at home, other Agencies have special under Bed-Safes made, etc...I think, this is an absurd law, in General, I would think, obviously, no officer follows it too religiously, maybe with the key in the lock, except on vacations, etc., or similar way because it is a weird law anyway!
This 86(2) Improper Gun Storage implication, should only be enforced, if the firearm owner, is not at home, multiple-redundant h-gun or if there are toddlers around and/or similar, as competent individuals with any kind of "Common Sense" should act!
But isn't this also a case in Humanities as per "what goes on behind closed doors", like a trigger lock, especially in a Target Firearm, "without a trigger guard" should be something of our personal interests, since trigger locks have been known to pretty impractical, if not dangerous as discussed on many WEB Sites!
BTW:
The Canadian Firearms Safety Course/Test forgot to add, that all carried or stored firearms should be pointed in a safe place, in-a-case or not, h-guns should be pointed down, not as CFRS depicted as pointed anywhere, plus U may fine anybody $2,000 for pointing a firearm at you!There are very many web sites who condemn trigger locks, like the "Safe-storage gun bill loses" statute below.
Other Statute U.S.:
'Safe-storage' gun bill loses:
Feb. 4 - A key part of Gov. Bill Owens' gun-control plan - requiring "safe storage" of guns in the home - went down to defeat Thursday.
It was a victory for the state chapter of the National Rifle Association, called the Colorado State Shooting Association. The group said the bill could prevent gun owners from protecting themselves.The bill lost because one Democrat had an emergency and missed the vote Thursday in the House Judiciary Committee.
Rep. Suzanne Williams, D-Aurora, the bill's sponsor, and fellow Democrats scrambled after the vote to find a way to revive it, huddling with some of the Republicans who run the House. But no way to revive it was found Thursday.
"Rep. Williams will continue to work with the governor to somehow pass this important item," House Democrats said in a statement from their press office.
Owens did not appear to be worried by the defeat."There's a lot of process to go," said Owens' spokesman, Dick Wadhams.
Wadhams also cheered the committee's endorsement of a related bill by Rep. Rob Fairbank, R-Littleton, expanding who can be prosecuted for giving a handgun to a juvenile.Currently, only a parent or guardian can be charged in some cases. Fairbank's bill would expand that to say any "person." But it does not do what Owens has said should be done. In August, the governor said he wants to make it "explicitly clear that firearms should be kept away from children's reach when not in use." Republican gun-control opponents said they weren't surprised by the vote.
"I didn't think it was the sentiment of the Legislature to mandate how people stored their handguns," said House Majority Leader Doug Dean, R-Colorado Springs.
But supporters of the bill said the legislation wouldn't tell gun owners how to store their guns, just require them to do so responsibly.
"It does not call on police to enter our homes and check and see if we're storing firearms safely," said Tom Mauser, lobbyist for the gun-control group SAFE Colorado. "This isn't about gun rights. It's about gun responsibilities."Mauser started lobbying for gun control after his son, Daniel, was killed in the Columbine High School massacre. He said he also set up a Web site that has received thousands of responses.
"People ask, "What the hell is happening to the parents of Harris and Klebold?' " Mauser said. "I'm saying the same thing - what the hell is happening? How accountable are we holding our parents?"
But opponents said the bill was so broad it could allow prosecutors to charge someone who has his gun stolen by a juvenile.
"I don't want to be held responsible if some kid breaks into my house, steals my gun and uses it to kill someone," said Bill Dietrick, legislative director of the CSSA.
CSSA Executive Director Aimee Rathburn cited an example from Phoenix this week in which a woman shot and killed a rapist who had broken into her home. She was able to get the gun because it was lying on the kitchen counter, not locked away.
"Our problem with this bill is that our law-abiding members will obey it - especially women," she said. "We want women to be able to defend themselves."The bill was defeated on a tie vote because Rep. Nolbert Chavez, D-Denver, was absent. If Chavez had been there, Democrats said, the measure would have passed 7-6.
There is a way to bring the bill back at the next committee meeting, but it would require the support of nine members.
There also might be a way to add the safe-storage bill to another bill.
A note from Lindsay Higgins, Moncton (Via e-mail) With a Rather Similar Perspective:
For the past several years we have been hearing and reading arguments for and against the <Firearms> Act, formerly Bill C68/17.To date, most arguments have been against the firearm registration aspect of the act. This should be of great concern to hunters and shooters. History has shown that all firearm registration schemes have led to confiscation.
The most commonly used example is in Germany when, prior to the Second World War, Hitler said: "This year will go down in history! For the first time, a civilized nation has full firearm registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"
After all <firearms> were registered, they were conveniently confiscated and the rest, as they say, is history.
Ca-nada, The United Kingdom and Australia have followed Hitler's lead, encouraged by a misguided United Nations. The same reasons are given for implementing this legislation in Canada. That is to make the streets safer and the police more efficient.
However, research has shown that most types of crimes such as murder, rape, assaults, home invasions, etc., significantly increase when legal <firearms> are removed from the public. The reason is criminals are guaranteed a resistance-free crime.
Of even more concern is the vague terminology used throughout the <Firearms> Act. Terms like "any good and sufficient reason" or "in the opinion of" are used repeatedly in describing details of the act.
This type of legislation leaves the door wide open for abuse by police, prosecutors and government officials. Below are a few examples of this terminology taken directly from the <Firearms> Act.The Registrar may refuse to issue a registration certificate, authorization to export or authorization to import for any good and sufficient reason.
A chief <firearms> officer who issues a license, authorization to carry or authorization to transport may revoke it for any good and sufficient reason.
In making regulations, the Governor in Council may not prescribe any thing to be a prohibited firearm, a restricted firearm, a prohibited weapon, a restricted weapon, a prohibited device or prohibited ammunition if, in the opinion of the Governor in Council, the thing to be prescribed is reasonable for use in Canada for hunting or sporting purposes.
For greater certainty, a regulation may be made under Part III of the Criminal Code without being laid before either House of Parliament.
Studies by Dave Kopel, John Lott and most recently Gary Mauser clearly show any and all attempts at controlling legal <firearms> (illegal <firearms> cannot be controlled) have not accomplished what they were intended to do.
It is not cost effective. It does not provide police with reliable information. It does not make our streets safer.
This act was designed by its creators to be altered at will. The wording is necessary to accomplish their long-term goal "confiscation." Lindsay Higgins, Moncton (Via e-mail)
Cars vs. Guns in the UN Confiscation Mindset :
Why is it when a drivers license is about to expire, you go in to any transport office, fill out the form pay your money, the clerk does an immediate search on the license for outstanding infraction, and if you don't have any, they put a 90 day extension on the license validation.
Cars kill more people than guns . This is a truth that cannot be argued otherwise. Stats Canada and others, have the evidence.
Along comes Joe gun owner, FAc about to expire. He has in all likely hood taken tests for competency for handguns if he uses them at the range, has taken a hunters safety course which covers similar material as in the new Govumint course, yet he cannot get extension of his permit, he must jump through a myriad of hoops in order to keep his firearms.
WHY?
We do not loose our cars if our license is expired, we can continue to own them.
So any one out there with insight as to why we are clearly not being treated as the rest of the public is, in spite of cars being more dangerous, please let me know... I am interested .References:
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ipps/20010529/cm/united_nations_attack_on_gun_ownership_1.html
Other Statute:
Something of a very much more outrageous situation than mine, but in a similar environment and something almost impossible for me to think of, "26 Outlayed Firearms" pretty freaky, anyway, it still holds water:---------
PUBLICATION: The Standard (St.Catharines)
DATE: 2000.04.04
SECTION: Local news/court
PAGE: A3
Guns found after fire admitted as evidence:
Police duty to protect public overrode need for warrant:
By Standard Staff
A north St. Catharines man's application to have a collection of firearms found in his home excluded as evidence at trial was shot down by Justice Richard Jennis on Monday.
John Paul Bardoscia, 52, faces two counts of improper storage of firearms, after firefighters discovered an arsenal of 26 firearms in his Currie Street home while responding to a garage fire last June.
Bardoscia's lawyer, Ed-Burlew, argued in Ontario Court of Justice in St.Catharines that the weapons should not be admitted as evidence because police had entered his client's home without a search warrant.The court heard that after firefighters put out the garage blaze on June 13, 1999 at 10:30 a.m., one of them decided to see if anyone inside the detached home was hurt.
When no one answered his knock, he opened the unlocked door and saw an assortment of handguns, rifles and ammunition in plain view.
Police were notified and went inside the home to investigate, although they had not yet obtained a search warrant, the court heard.
Once a search warrant was obtained, a detective and a member of the provincial weapons enforcement unit seized 15 restricted weapons and 11 non-restricted firearms, along with a large quantity of ammunition.
Burlew argued that all evidence found before police obtained a search warrant should be excluded in the trial, set for Oct. 10 to 13.
But Jennis said the initial "searches were reasonable and justified." He pointed to the fact that fire officials had "reasonable concern" that someone may have been inside the house. He also said the door was unlocked and the firefighter had only taken a few steps inside the house before he spotted the weapons.He said the weapons posed a "potential danger" and that the police duty to protect people and property overrode the necessity of first obtaining a search warrant.
The 26 weapons found during the first search of the home were only catalogued by police officers and not seized, said Jennis. Police only seized the weapons after a warrant was issued later that day.
"An exclusion of this evidence would have an effect on the
administration of justice," Jennis concluded.
Letters to the Editor can be sent to pbailey@scs.southam.ca
Other Statute Fact:
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:50:27 -0500
From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" <BreitG0@parl.gc.ca>
Subject: FW: Do armed homes reduce crime?
Cato Daily Dispatch - March 13, 2001
DO ARMED HOMES SHOOT DOWN CRIME?
According to the Marietta Daily Journal, Kennesaw, Georgia, the city that passed a controversial 1982 law requiring people to keep guns in their homes, has enjoyed an 89% drop in crime, compared to a 10% decline for the rest of the state. Conscientious objectors are exempt from the law, making it mostly symbolic.
(http://www.mdjonline.com/StoryDetail.cfm?id=10017128&Section=Home%20Page)"You can't argue with the fact that Kennesaw has the lowest crime rate of any city our size in the country," said Mayor Leonard Church.
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Kennesaw lawmakers may have taken to an extreme the adage that an armed society is a polite society, but evidence suggests their law could reduce crime more than measures that restrict gun ownership. In "Fighting Back:
Crime, Self-Defense, and the Right to Carry a Handgun,"
(http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-284.html) Jeffrey R. Snyder shows that crime-rates are reduced in states that adopt concealed-carry laws.
SOME THOUGHTS ON THE GUN OWNER'S LICENSE:
The news media has been making a lot out of the fact that many Canadians have supposedly become "OUTLAWS" because they own guns, but have not applied for a gun owner's license.
Fact:- It is that those who have obtained a "gun owner's license" who are the ones who have become "OUTLAWS" [Criminals].Your gun is your property. Any attempts to remove it are theft, period.
Getting a "license" from the Crown for anything places one into the Public Record as a Convicted Felon. Now that you have a "license" to own a gun, you are a felon on parole, and are subject to having your gun(s) confiscated at any time; as, a convicted felon may be prohibited from owning or possessing a gun or other weapon at the whim of a government administrative officer.Based on <Court > Roman Laws, when your name is spelled in CAPITALS, it sanctions you as a Fictitious person under Roman Law, therefore making U a Liability "Strawman" for the Draconian Empire's Mistake$.
Yes, your Birth Certificate, Driver's Licence, Citizenship, Charge-Cards, and many other <legal> documents, make U an inventory of the vampires!
Certain classified nazi documents dated 1953ad--->2053ad with a 100year non-disclosures make you a party to these atrocities as Roman Law CAPITALS fictitious person with No <Citizenship> freedom! U may check Le Palais de Versaille, Palace of Windsor, University of Delaware, etc., for a peak preview on what the <Gov't> has done for you!
The "gun owner's license" only applies to;
"persons who reside in Ca-nada or a Province".
MY FELLOW CANADIANS:
YOU HAVE BEEN AGAIN TREASONOUSLY DECEIVED
BY THIS HOAX GOVERNMENT OF CANADA
This Other Episode, Really Makes Me Wonder What My Target Firearm Confiscation was All About:------------------------------
PUBLICATION: The Moncton Times and Transcript
DATE: 2001.04.09
SECTION: Moncton
PAGE: A3
BYLINE: LEE OLIVER
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Police Beat
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Last chance
A Moncton man with an extensive criminal record has been given one last chance to turn his life around.
Frank Sloan Hannay, 29, pleaded guilty in Moncton provincial court to possession of a restricted weapon with ammunition, unauthorized possession of a restricted weapon, possession of a restricted weapon obtained through the commission of a crime and breach of probation.
Hannay avoided a potentially lengthy jail term when Judge Irwin Lampert allowed him to attend a drug addiction treatment program in Montreal as part of his sentence.
"Mr. Hannay," said Lampert sternly, "I can tell you, without equivocation, that this is your last chance. I don't want to see you before the court again."
Hannay was arrested on November 23, 2000 after officers, answering a call for assistance to remove an unwanted occupant from a residence, found Hannay asleep in a bed with a loaded Webly Mk IV .38-calibre revolver beside him.The weapon had been reported stolen from a Riverview residence two weeks earlier.
Anti-Violence, and Garry Breitkreuz BOYCOTT GUN REGISTRY:See what our Other Brothers, and the web site of Garry Breitkreuz, Member of Parliament for Yorkton - Melville, Saskatchewan think of these Gun Laws.
Criminology Stats, of Satore Township
Effect of Canada's Protective HandGun Laws
Is this What Bill C68/17 and the Enforced Laws are Causing.....Guess?------------------------------
PUBLICATION: Vancouver Sun
DATE: 2001.04.11
EDITION: FINAL
SECTION: News
PAGE: B2
COLUMN: City Limits
SOURCE: Vancouver Sun
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City Limits
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- - TORONTO -- Two men attempting to rob a gun shop were shot down with a shotgun by the store's proprietor. A third robber escaped with <firearms> and ammunition.
The two severely wounded men, both from Edmonton, were taken to
hospital under police guard.
- - The Park theatre
"Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience,..."John Locke,2nd Treatise of Government
"It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong." [Voltaire]
Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas? -- Joseph Stalin
Reference Statute Dispute:
Since Kim Campbell's C-17 in 1991, According to Part III, of the Criminal Code, Reference Subsections 86(2) (3). This Improper Storage Charge, is viewed unwittingly parallel to a Distribution of Firearms charge.
I find that there is an awesome difference between the 2 Situations under the same Reference Statute! This Reference Spans way too much territory to be properly construed, as any kind of reference at all!
Statute:
The NFA has supplied Mr. Arsenault with transcripts of court decisions that indicate the charge against him [CC s. 86(3), storage "in violation of a regulation"] cannot be used because it is a violation of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
THE NFA STRONGLY CONDEMNS THE CANADIAN FIREARMS CENTER FOR NOT MAKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS AWARE OF THE DEFECTS IN THESE "STORAGE" CHARGES.
THE CFC, BY ITS REFUSAL TO DISTRIBUTE INFORMATION ABOUT IMPROPER CHARGES LIKE THIS, IS CONTRIBUTING TO ABUSIVE ENFORCEMENT.PLEASE WRITE TO THE MINISTER OF JUSTICE AND DEMAND JUSTICE!
IT WOULD BE PERFECTLY SIMPLE FOR THE CFC TO DEVOTE ONE ISSUE OF THEIR "BULLETIN" TO THE PROBLEMS OF CC S. 86(2) AND (3), BUT THEY INSIST ON DELIVERING USELESS INFORMATION AND REFUSE TO PUBLISH IN AREAS LIKE THIS WHERE ABUSE IS RAMPANT. THEY WILL NOT PUBLISH ANYTHING THAT REDUCES THE ABUSE LEVELS. AND THAT IS WRONG.
CC s. 86(3) imposes a sentence of up to two years imprisonment.Or
Summary Conviction of $2,000.00 and/or 6 months!
The charge leaves no room for a defense of "due diligence" (I didn't do it the way the regulations said to, but I did do it in a way that had the same or a better effect). That being so, storage in the alternative way leaves one guilty of the offense, and that is a violation of the Charter right to liberty. The accused can be sent to prison for up to two years -- when the accused has done nothing wrong.That is a violation of the Charter right to "fundamental justice."
The R. vs. Smillie case (BC Supreme Court) ruled that CC s.86(3) violates the Charter as indicated above, and therefore cannot be used.
R. vs. Finlay (Supreme Court of Canada) ruled that CC s. 86(2) and (3) are regulatory law rather than proper criminal law, and that therefore a proper defense of "due diligence" shall succeed.
Dave Tomlinson, NFA
Similar Cases as MINE, can be found at:------------------------------
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 15:45:52 -0600 (CST)
From: Al Dorans <aldorans@magma.ca>
Subject: RFC Ottawa: A Locked House is a Safe Storage Container.
RFC Ottawa/FED UP Canada
Protecting Canadian Freedoms
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 00:23:14 -0600 (CST)
From: "Marc Mousseau" <marc@whyfor.com>
Subject: Re: Seeking a Good Ottawa Lawyer
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 02:05:51 -0600 (CST)
From: Al Dorans <aldorans@magma.ca>
Subject: Seeking a Good Ottawa Lawyer
(Snip) Scott was successful in winning the case for his client. The judge
accepted Scott's argument and ruled that Bill Baldwin was not guilty. Bill had stored his firearms properly in a safe storage container, namely his locked apartment. In handing down his verdict, the judge advised the Crown that this case should never have come before the court in the first place.
Does this mean there exists a precedent that considers firearms locked in a house to be safely stored, even if they are not locked up within the locked house? This would be a very good precedent to use against storage charges.
Al, can provide more information about this case?
- - -- Marc
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